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2/28/14 7:36 A

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Okay, if you're interested in strength training (and good for you! You should be) then my advice would be just to finish out that session you have left and start over.

Google Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe, Bill Starr's 5x5, or All-Pro's Beginner Workout.


These use only BBs and DBs and are designed by the top in the field to specifically get stronger. They will guide you in the %s of the progressive load----everything.

Any exercise you aren't sure of performing you can search on youtube.




I am a trainer myself, and I am pretty disheartened at the way I see many trainers "train."

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2/27/14 10:06 P

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Wow! Thank you everyone! I'm glad to hear this trainer seems to be using sound principles. I think I was a bit worried I was getting a sub-par experience since the sessions were essentially "on sale". I wish I could afford the trainer's hourly rates ($65.00 per hour), but can not. I plan to write down everything we do during our next session so I can copy it for a while.

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2/27/14 8:08 P

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I read this earlier today. When I was at the gym today, I really looked at the trainers working with clients, and none of them are on machines... ever. Like a previous poster said, there must be better ST exercises. Since you're not going to continue with the trainer, DEFINTELY make your wishes known!



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2/27/14 5:07 P

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Bodyweight strength training is a completely legitimate form of ST. You don't need to 'pump iron' to ST effectively. What matters is that you are challenging your muscles at close to their maximum capacity, not what equipment you are using.

And one of the advantages of bodyweight exercises is that they generally give a better all-body workout. Machines tend to run in a defined track, and so they really only work one muscle at a time (known as isolation exercises). Bodyweight exercises typically work a much broader range of muscles, as the body works hard to keep you balanced and stabilized as well as just completing the actually movement - these are known as compound exercises.

Balance exercises and poses can also be very effective strength training. Planks are a classic example of this, and are a far more effective core exercise than traditional crunch.

From what you are describing, it sounds like your trainer is actually following pretty sound principles.

However, you are right to insist that she come up with a routine that you can follow on your own. Mention this to her. The solution might be as simple as her naming exercises as you do them and writing them down. Or just following the same routine a couple of times in a row to make it easier to remember, rather than changing things up every session.

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2/27/14 11:47 A

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Were you clear upfront what you were looking for and that you didn't plan on continuing? A good trainer will have different approaches based on what the client's goals and objectives are. I'm sure her assessment of tight hamstrings is based on postural and movement pattern assessments. Unless you first correct imbalances, you can't progress with proper form. You just reinforce imbalances and make them worse. Balance training also is important because it helps with neuromuscular efficiency (ability of brain to "talk" to muscles), improves core strength and will help prevent injuries as you progress.

I don't teach machines unless a client specifically requests it or has some physical limitations that make that the best choice. I do incorporate weights and other forms of resistance even as I am building a foundation. I'm sure during your last session, she will try to sell you another package that will map out further progression. If you do opt to re-sign, be very clear on what you want. Frankly, I don't think machine-based training is the right choice for most people.

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2/27/14 10:10 A

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You are paying for it and I think you should insist on it. Tennis is demanding and there is a lot she could teach you to keep your shoulders and knees healthy. Small muscle strengthening for stability along with basic compound lifts and some torsional work might help you.

You should always get what you want out of those sessions. Particularly if you are looking to improve at a sport.

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You are paying for it and I think you should insist on it. Tennis is demanding and there is a lot she could teach you to keep your shoulders and knees healthy. Small muscle strengthening for stability along with basic compound lifts and some torsional work might help you.

You should always get what you want out of those sessions. Particularly if you are looking to improve at a sport.

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2/27/14 10:00 A

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At your next session (your last?), ask for help creating a routine that you can continue to do on your own and that you can make more challenging at your own pace. You can do plenty of strength training without weights (google body weight strength training) but she should be helping you create something that you can continue long term.



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2/27/14 9:42 A

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My gym offered a special "5 training sessions for $150"... This seemed like a good deal and I had been wanting to add strength training to my tennis routine. I signed up with a "highly recommended" trainer and started my sessions. I am in session #4 and have only used actual weights once. The hour is spent doing various yoga-type poses, balance exercises, odd stretches (she thinks my hamstrings are too tight) and some lunges etc.. I am crazy sore all over, but am surprised that we are not using more weights. When I asked her about the routine, she promised me she is much more" advanced" than just using weights. She stated her moves engage multiple muscles at once. The only problem is... how do I continue this routine on my own once my special deal is over? If she taught me how to use the machines I could do it by myself. Should I insist on this?

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