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9/30/14 8:45 P

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SergeantMajor, Thank you for the the information and stats you shared. It is good information to know.

I know I am not the best at making a point and I often cause a deviation from the main topic of the thread. It appears that is the case here too.

My attempt was at trying to point out what I think are the positive aspects of the Treadclimer as an exercise tool. Not specifically an excellent weight loss tool.

My initial focus on cardio wasn't for the weight loss benefits. My goal was to get my cardio endurance better which has happened. Still have a way to go but I see the positive results already.

As far as my weight loss thus far I feel it is fully mostly as you point out, a result of my nutrition or better said in my case my portion control.

I work the evening shift and I work out when I get home at night. And with my progress thus far in the cardio, I started working on the metabolism builder. Strength training, doing a few push-ups, sit-ups, squats, dips and pull-ups.

When I started about 2 months ago, by the end of my 30 mins on the TreadClimber I was topping 170+ bpm and that was at a slower pace and lower level. Now, I am maintaining around 155bpm through most of my 30 minutes and barely hit 160/161bpm by the end.

On the Treadmil, two months ago after doing first my 30 minutes on the TreadClimber before doing 30 minutes on the Treadmill I would have cooled off considerably and bpm would be down to 130. Now, I am still ending at around 130bpm but I have increased the TreadClimber intensity aswell as on the Treadmill, I have increased the minutes at the higher speed as well as raised the incline for most of the time to 10%. So, yeah my cardio is much better. Now to work on the 15% of weight loss.



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9/30/14 2:47 P

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Just a reminder of two things, first cardio is the least effective way to lose fat. The heirarchy is nutrition (80%), strength training (15%) and cardio (5%).If your only excise choice is cardio then up to 25% of your weight loss will be muscle which reduces your resting metabolism. The second point is that the degree of sweating you do is not necessarily a good indicator of the amount of work you are doing or have done, it is just the way your body is trying to cool itself so many variables come into play.


It is called WORK-ing out for a reason.

I said getting fit was simple, I did not say it was easy.

Cardio burns calories, strength work burns fat.

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9/28/14 10:13 P

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Man am I late to the party or what? I just did a search for treadclimber in SP and found this thread and would like to add my 2 cents.

I've been a member of SP for several years though wasn't active until just a couple of months ago. I finally made the commitment to take care of myself sometime in early July, 2014.

I have several coat rack, I mean machines in my home gym that I just recently cleared and am actually using.

I have started with my TreadClimber and my Treadmill. This is my routine:

I first do 30 minutes on the TC at 3mph on level 4. After 30 minutes, I have gone 1.5miles, burned 433calories. Well before I complete my 30 minutes I am drenched.

I then get on my treadmill to "cool off" for 30 minutes. The routine I do there is the 30 minutes broken up as follow: 3,1,4,1,5,1,5,1,4,1,3,1. The 1's are at 3mph and the other times are at 3.5mph. All at anywhere between 7% and 10% inline. Results here is aproximately 300 calories and a distance of 1.6 miles. At the end of my treadmill time I am only having to wipe the sweat from my head.

After nearly 2 months of this pattern, I have gone from 250 down to 228.

My point of pointing all this out is to say that in my case, the TC is a much better workout. And, as an added note to this is I am not fully working out completely with the TC. I am yet to get coordinated enough to be able to swing my arms during my TC time. I hold on to the rails for balance the whole 30 minutes. Not so on the Treadmill. I may be using more muscles on the treadmill but no where near as intensely as on the TC.

With that being said, I would also point out to try the TC before buying or on the trial period and you need to decide whether you will be committed to using it long after you have gotten it.





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1/3/14 8:22 P

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It doesn't really matter whether or not you agree - To someone who knows that even if the gym were next door, they'd stop going, it would be a "mildly ridiculous" expenditure. I'm one of those people that just hates to exercise around other people. I've joined gyms and made myself go for a while. It's just not for some people, especially for those of us with social anxiety. I know myself well enough to know that I need something I can do at home, out of the elements, climate controlled, low impact, and away from other people. I need my comfort zone. Maybe this lady does, too!

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1/3/14 7:57 P

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I don't agree that a $40/month gym membership is ridiculous at all! If you choose the right gym you can have access to many different machines, weights, bands, balls, group fitness classes, etc. Buying one piece of equipment is bound to get boring for most people, where at a gym, there are lots of options. Many gyms don't require contracts or start up fees either. Also, gyms have trainers available to help you understand proper techniques so you don't injure yourself/waste time doing moves incorrectly.



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1/3/14 2:38 P

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We've been looking at a treadmill for when we move into the new house. I can't make myself work out outdoors when it's cold, rainy, hot, humid, whatever. I also can't jumprope. It requires too much coordination and it's too likely that I'll sprain an ankle (seriously). Walking on a treadmill or using an elliptical is a good alternative for me. I would just get a gym membership, but at $40 a month each, it's mildly ridiculous. Equipment we owned would pay for itself in a very short period of time. The treadclimber looks interesting, and after your reviews, I'm going to consider it.

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I've owned my Treadclimber for 6 years now. I just recently started back on it again. I can work out for 20 minutes at 3mph and burn 200 calories. It's also equivalent to a 1 mile walk. As with many folks, you go through a stage when you simply don't want to work out. I get like that, but when I shake off my "poor me blues" and get back on it, I'll go for several months working out. I love being in this "zone". :)
Bottom line, I LOVE MY TREADCLIMBER.



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1/1/14 4:48 P

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Sorry, baby. The last time I tried that, I threw my back out. Not doing it again. I'll stick with walking!

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1/1/14 3:17 P

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When you jump rope you only lift your feet enough to allow the rope to pass under your feet which means an inch at most. How much more low impact can you get? You lift your feet higher than that to just walk.


It is called WORK-ing out for a reason.

I said getting fit was simple, I did not say it was easy.

Cardio burns calories, strength work burns fat.

Eat well to lose weight, exercise to get fit

You can not build a six pack using twelve packs


Often when we seek a magic bullet for fitness we end up shooting ourselves in the foot.

"I think calories are little germs in food that all moms are afraid of" Dennis the Menace

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1/1/14 8:21 A

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I just recently purchased a Treadclimber. I opted for the non-electric, TC5 model. I decided on the Treadclimber after reading the posts here on Sparkpeople for the following reasons:

I noticed that many people were suggesting walking/jogging, and/or bicycling outdoors. The other option was a jump rope. All of these were wonderful solutions when I was in my 30's -40's even. However, I am 60 years old, and despite being in pretty good health, would be insane to try to walk, jog or bicycle in my neighborhood before or after work in the wintertime. Yes, I live in Florida, but it's dark outside at those times and not safe. As for the jump rope, my joints need a low impact form of exercise. This is not an option for me.

The whole point of getting a treadmill or treadclimber was so I could work out safely, in my home, with a low impact type of exercise. I love walking, so this made sense. Yes, I walk outdoors when I can, but I don't walk in the rain, heat above 90 degrees, or the dark.

I owned a very nice treadmill before I moved to my current residence, but didn't like how much space it required. It also needed to be fairly close to an electric outlet. The only place I could put it was in my living room, and if anyone wanted to watch TV, I couldn't use it as it made too much noise. It was also too big for me to move around easily. I sold it prior to my move.

My TC5 requires no electricity, and has a much smaller footprint (only 3 1/2 feet long!), so I can comfortably put it in my spare room and still have space for other things. It's not exactly a light-weight machine, but the way it's designed, I can easily move it to another room if I need to.

Bottom line - I get a better workout with the treadclimber, and most importantly, I actually use it!

Edited by: TSISQUAUSDI at: 1/1/2014 (08:39)
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7/16/13 1:33 P

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I love my treadclimber! I use it every morning and get a good work out on it. That being said, I think the "3x the calories" claim is a complete myth. I recently bought a HRM and found that the estimates that SP gives me for the treadmill is about comparable to what the HRM says I burned while working out on the treadclimber.

For me, the real factor is that I use the treadclimber every day and I enjoy using it. When I had a treadmill, I found it boring as heck and avoided it. It was just another incredibly expensive clothes hanger.

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7/15/13 12:52 P

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I loved the Treadclimbers when they had them at the Y...BUT -
they were the least used cardio machines and they wore out FAST. The Y is very good about maintaining the equipment. I believe the replacement parts needed were no longer available. Just from that, I would say they are not built to last.

for something that expensive, it needs to last me at least 10 years or so!

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7/15/13 11:45 A

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Skipping rope is AWESOME for cardio, and as SM mentioned, it is incredibly challenging. 5 minutes can feel like an eternity.

My mom has a treadclimber. I know she used it semi-regularly, but she wants to sell it. I know it isn't because there is anything wrong with it, but I don't think she loves it.

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7/15/13 11:34 A

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For much less money you can purchase a quality bicycle to ride out of doors in the current season then add an indoor trainer to it for the other seasons when out of doors is not an option. For the most frugal option invest in a quality swivel handle adjustable length jump rope. Skipping rope is low impact, you only need to get your feet high enough to allow the rope to pass under so we are talking 1/2 to 1 inch. Google for videos of boxers skipping rope to see how to do it properly.

By the way I doubt you can currently do 5 minutes of non stop rope skipping.


It is called WORK-ing out for a reason.

I said getting fit was simple, I did not say it was easy.

Cardio burns calories, strength work burns fat.

Eat well to lose weight, exercise to get fit

You can not build a six pack using twelve packs


Often when we seek a magic bullet for fitness we end up shooting ourselves in the foot.

"I think calories are little germs in food that all moms are afraid of" Dennis the Menace

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7/15/13 4:31 A

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I've used a treadclimber (not sure of the brand) at the gym and liked it. But I probably wouldn't buy one. I would think it would be more like to tear up quicker than a treadmill. You are limited to what you can do on one. It's designed just for walking in a hiking type motion. It's very easy to lose your balance on one as the treadles are moving separately. If you've never been on one, I'd suggest trying one out before making a purchase. They are big and take up a lot of space not to mention loud. But I really do like using them, but not sure if they burn as much as they claim. but I did lose weight using one. Also, I could never figure out how to track it on the fitness tracker. It's walking but harder than regular walking.

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I have one and I LOVE it. I don't know about the calorie burn claims but I know that I get a better work out on it versus a regular treadmill. You get the benefit of a stepper along with the treadmill. It also improves your balance since the treads are individual and not all that wide you have to maintain your balance and stride or you shoot off it.

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My experience with the treadclimber came quite a few years ago, when the machine first hit the market, and I haven't checked it out recently. I think those claims about it burning 3 x more calories were a little misleading, at least back then. If you read the fine print, they were comparing a treadclimber workout at the highest speed and resistance setting to walking on a treadmill at 3 mph with no elevation. Obviously, the calorie burning difference would have been much smaller if they had compared the two machines with the speed and elevation settings at similar levels. One disadvantage with the early models of the treadclimber was that the maximum speed and resistance settings were lower than the maximums on ellipticals and treadmills. So, that could limit your workouts, depending on your fitness level. I don't know if the new models have the same limits.

That said, though, you can get a good workout on a treadclimber, and it lets you do a lower impact workout compared to running/jogging on a treadmill or outdoors, since your feet don't leave the pedals. Just keep in mind that it's not the machine doing the work--it's you. You can burn just as many calories by walking/jogging up a decent hill outside, or using any number of other machines at a comparable resistance setting.

Hope this helps.

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7/14/13 8:26 A

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I've seen the infomercials-- they make it sound like it's the most marvelous piece of equipment on the face of the earth. But then, of course they'd do that-- they want you to buy one!

Truth be told, ANY piece of exercise equipment (whatever it is) is only effective if you actually use it. So I'm with Archii on this one. I think I saw another post from you & you're a college student or taking a class? You could check out the campus fitness center and see if they have one of these machines, so you could try it out. Better yet, just work out at the fitness center-- usually it's free with a student id.

Speaking for myself-- I am cheap. I do not have a gym membership nor do I own anything beyond a couple resistance bands, some dumbells, and several workout dvd's. It is NOT necessary to spend a lot of money to get fit. My favorite form of cardio is a brisk walk in a hilly area, wearing a backpack loaded down with weight. Every few weeks I add another pound to the backpack. I do strength training at home with the dumbbells and resistance bands.

The guy across the street from me has a treadmill in his garage. It is right there, I mean how much more convenient could it be? And yet he hardly ever gets on it. The equipment is not (all by itself) going to get you fit. You have to commit to whatever it is, that you decide to do-- and then just do it.

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7/14/13 8:17 A

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Archimedes makes a lot of good points.

I'd add that to me they look a little limited. I'm very diligent on treadmills, stationary bikes and rowing machines but stair climbers are a bit boring for prolonged use.Testimoney to this is the gym - they do seem to be very underused compared to other cardio machines.

When at home I always chose running for cardio (free!).. the next purchase is a real bike .. afterall the idea is to have fun. If I was prevented from running my cardio machine of choice would be a rower. These don't breakdown easily, are comparative silent, they are cheap (Olympic athlete standard rowers - eg Concept 2 can be picked up for $300 second hand), easy to store/carry and are low impact. Having recognised the merits of rowing both as an exercise and as a machine I would add that I hate rowing..:) But you don't always get to do what you like if you want to be fit. For example I had a knee issue. The only cardio I could o for 6 months was rowing... so I rowed :( When I finally returned to running my times were as fast as ever. The key point here is that cardio machines are there to exercise your heart and lungs. If used correctly just about any cardio machine will do the job.............

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LADY_LUCK1989,

I don't own the tread climber or any other Bowflex product. I have seen the infomercial. Buying a piece of exercise equipment is a huge investment not only in money, but time as well. So, the first question you have to ask is,"will I use this tread climber on a regular basis?"

Look at your track record for buying fitness stuff. How much stuff have you bought in past with the notion of using that something to lose weight ? If you have a garage or closet full of stuff that you bought and never used, then you shouldn't buy the Bowflex. It will end up becoming a very expensive coat rack.

You don't need to pay $1,000+ to get a decent workout. You could get a good gym membership for significantly less money and you'd have access to a variety of equipment as well as classes. Are you in a remote area and don't have access to a gym ? If so, then you might consider investing in something of this kind.

Also, do you have room ? Are you in a house or in an apartment ? You're going to have to find a place to put it where it won't disturb anyone else in the house. One thing you should know about large pieces of equipment like this is that they made noise. How loud is the motor ? That could be an issue. Most people don't realize how loud some treadmill motors can be. You're also going to need a rubber pad of some sort to put under the Bowflex to protect your floors. that's another $50 or so dollars.

Do you really think you're going to use this or is it going to end up as an expensive coat rack ? Personally, I think a gym membership is a cheaper and better investment.

However, if you DO decide to buy one, you don't have to pay full price. Check your local craigslist or freecycle. You'd be surprized how many people are trying to get rid of their Bowflexes or treadmills or ellipticals. You may even find the tread climber for less than $100. Some people will give it to you if you're willing to pick it up.

So, just a few things to consider.


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Okay, so we have all seen those commercials on the Bowflex Treadclimber. They tell us that you can burn up to 3 times the calories compared to other certain machines. Some of us may have even ordered their free informational DVD to learn more about it (GUILTY AS CHARGED). But does anyone in the SparkPeople community know whether or not what they say is the truth or just some lame propaganda aimed at certain target groups? If anyone has actually used any of their treadclimbers (the basic, mid-range, or deluxe versions), can you reply to this? I welcome positive, negative, and even neutral reviews on this fitness machine... As long as you don't work for them. And if you are a fitness expert, so much the better. I want to know what my spark-peeps has to say about this because I don't want to buy it if it is JUNK and not a Jewel...

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