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Yes it work but you also have to work with it.

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It's probably fair to say that dietary choices matter a lot more. It is VERY difficult to out-exercise a bad diet. I actually did much less exercise on my last, successful (so far) weight loss effort than in previous efforts. I did exercise regularly (walked daily, plus did more vigorous exercise several times per week), but I took care not to over-do because I noticed it gave me hunger issues.

That said, maintenance is much, much harder during those times when I can't exercise -- and I've been in that situation for several weeks at a time due to health issues over the past few years. When I am sidelined from exercise, I have to be extremely careful with what I eat because there's no room for error -- and it's no fun to live like that over the long haul. Even a half-hour easy walk a day makes a big difference in terms of how careful I need to be -- so I try to do at least that much unless I'm specifically ordered not to by my doctors.

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I was going to say, but someone essentially beat me to it.. It depends on the type of eater you are. Of course it will help lose weight as it burns calories.. Take in less, exercise more, more calories burned, yadda yadda. Not rocket science.. pretty easy stuff. I don't care for articles like that.. not specific and I think it discourages people.



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It certainly DOES help if you're eating fewer calories and more healthy foods.

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With what the article said, it's pretty accurate. Moderate exercise is daily requirement for a healthy body for maintenance. It's like brushing your teeth. A daily habit for health.

When someone doesn't have exercise part of their normal daily regime, and then they start with "moderate exercise", they will see some immediate changes, but then that will stall.
When you are trying to lose weight, you need to really up the ante and craft a really good plan to achieve the new intended results.
Daily normal exercise won't change the shape of your body.
To really change the shape, you have to really push the limits in all areas, weight training, HIITS, cardio, and stretching.
Of course, the meal plan to transform your body has to be constantly tweaked to adjust for activity and to decrease your body getting use to your repetitive meal plan.


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Ditto on what Russell said - increasing muscle mass means you burn more calories all the time, even at rest.

Also, my doctor told me something that stuck with me: most dieters, if we diet only and don't exercise, over time the weight loss will stall as our bodies adjust to a lower calorie intake. The body perceives that calorie level as the new normal. I've known women who diet all the time and don't exercise, and they've gotten so they gain weight if they eat more than 1000 calories a day. I personally don't want to go through life that limited. I'd prefer to eat more and burn more. In addition, like other posters have noted, exercise gives you stamina, improves your health, and is a natural mood elevator.

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It depends on if you are eating more than what you are exercising out, or eating exactly what you are burning off irrespective of how much you are exercising, but not realizing how much precisely of what either, because you have not sought clinical professional data, or have not tweak either to lose or gain weight.

Both work, eating and exercise on there own, or in combination work if the numbers add to whatever is needed. Moderate exercise works great, and you will know the difference immediately if you stop even for a day especially if you are in tune with your body.

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I exercise to build muscle, and that translates into a higher metabolism. Plus, if I want a 500 calorie deficit for the day, and that allows me 1800 calories, then by exercising 500 calories, I can eat 2300 calories, and maintain the 1 lb a week loss, or stay at 1800, and lose 2 lbs. a week. That is weight loss, so I disagree with the idea that it doesn't help lose weight, especially lifting weights, since it builds muscle.

The idea behind this is that many people go burn 600 calories on an elliptical, or stairclimber, and then eat those 600 calories back, because the exercise left the ravenous. Some people even eat back more calories than they burned because the exercise causes hunger. At that point, they would have been better off not exercising, as far as weight loss is concerned.

I would suggest using diet to lose weight on, and doing enough exercise that you feel like you exercised, but not so much you feel depleted, or hungry. There are so many other benefits to exercise than weight loss that you should enjoy, as long as the exercise doesn't sabotage your diet. Both can help with you weight loss, but the majority will be from the diet, with exercise doing more to improve your cardiovascular heal, and elevate mood.

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Hi I am Jane from Ramsey,United Kingdom... yes...exercise can help but like me? I am not self motivated and I don't have self discipline... It may soo hard for me to work.. My cousin who was in vacation here told me about this one... and it works for me .. The Venus Factor

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I do hour and forty minutes til hour and fifty minutes.

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Which is why we all need to be doing more than just exercising moderately. I too am curious as to how they are defining moderate, but of course something like taking a 30 minute stroll 3 times a week is not going to do tremendous things for you in terms of weight loss or fitness.

I really hate the 80% diet, 20% exercise adage--it is absolutely the opposite for me. If I don't get at least a hour of exercise a day--intense exercise--it doesn't matter what else I do in my life. Then again, my diet was never really bad to begin with.

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That depends on how much weight you need to lose and the rate at which you want to lose. Those with a small amount of weight to lose can create a deficit with exercise alone to get to their goal. People with a lot of weight to lose need to focus on diet and exercise.

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Exercise and cutting back on your food. Yes it help.

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Exercise alone may not help you lost weight because you can out eat any exercise program, however, it is a big part of the overall formula.

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Exercise reduces my appetite and helps me sleep better. I feel like both of these contribute to me making better choices when I eat.

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I feel that it help me. When I cut back on my food and exercise I see weight lose.

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I know that exercise isn't the biggest part, but the exercise keeps me motivated to eat right. I feel awesome when I get done exercising and I want to do more. If spending 2 hours a day exercising is what it takes for me to stay motivated to eat right, then that's what I'm gonna do!

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OLGA18: "If that were true it would mean you could lie in bed all day, eat low calorie and still lose substantial weight."

Actually, this is probably true. Say that a person's BMR (calories burned if one just lay in bed all day) is 2400. And say that person consumed 1500 calories daily, but did very little as far as moving about, let alone exercising. In 4 days, in theory, the person would lose one pound. Eventually, of course, metabolism might slow down and other factors might enter in. But a person can lose weight doing little besides eating less. I'm not suggesting that is the best way to lose weight.

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If that were true it would mean you could lie in bed all day, eat low calorie and still lose substantial weight. That just doesn't make sense.
I agree with the posters who said that scientifically it doesn't make sense because anything that creates a calorie deficit is going to help you lose weight. And since resting muscle burns more calories than resting fat does it makes sense that creating that muscle with exercise would enhance your metabolism which, of course, helps you lose weight.



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I've learned on my journey that's its really an 80/20. 80% diet and 20% exercise. You can't exercise away a bad diet. It just won't work. You have to watch your calories, burn your calories and build your muscle.

Now my 20% means hitting the gym 6 days a week, (5 days of cardio, 2 days of weights and 1 day of group training)

I asked my trainer about this and he agreed...he said daily exercise is very important, but it won't help you if you're eating a diet full of junk. One Big Mac is roughly 900 or so calories....any idea how long it would take to work that off? Oy!

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"A much better and more efficient way to exercise -- and one that research is clearly showing works a lot better -- is to do high-intensity circuit training." -- Dr. Jonny Bowden, PhD, C.N.S.

I do not doubt that this is true. I have been told and have read as much several times. Here is the problem, however, for quite a few people, especially me: I HATE doing HIIT of any kind. If I have to do it to lose weight or to maintain, I am not going to exercise.

Bowden also notes, however, "While exercise by itself is fairly useless for losing weight, it appears to be critical to keeping the weight off once you've lost it." This is a key point. So, in essence, exercise does, indeed, burn calories.

"A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association followed the exercise habits of over 34,000 women and concluded that it took about an hour a day of moderate (3 mph walking) exercising to maintain weight. This research supports the findings of the National Weight Control Registry, which reports that 90 percent of people who have successfully lost weight and kept it off exercise on average for an hour a day."

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Thanks Brianliebirth. That's encouraging and so true. I will continue to eat well and workout for all the reasons you mentioned! If my body is mesnt to be smaller it'll happen. Love Sparkpeople so much for all it allows me to keep doing w no real results lately...

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Thanks Brianlieberth. That's encouraging and so true. I will continue to eat well and workout for all the reasons you mentioned! If my body is mesnt to be smaller it'll happen. Love Sparkpeople so much for all it allows me to keep doing w no real results lately...

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I am not a doctor or a scientist and while that adage i have heard and agree with is you can't outrun a bad diet. If you eat lots of calories in garbage food you can't possibly burn enough calories through exercise. That being said exercise provides so many benefits I would never recommend diet alone.

My mental state is so much better under the influence of exercise. Your heart health improves, your blood glucose levels level our without needing increased insulin being secreted. Blood pressure improves. Hand in hand exercise and nutrition improve your life

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Okay, as a personal trainer and health coach and someone who used to weigh 275 pounds, I feel very comfortable saying with certainty that moderate exercise does very little to contribute to weight loss. This is for a couple of reasons. First, overall calories burned is very insignificant. Second, extended steady state exercise burns mostly fat. Sounds good, right? Well, not quite. You have to look at both food and exercise as information to your body. When you spend an exercise session burning mostly fat, you are sending the message to your body that it needs to work harder at storing fat in the future because you're going to need to access it for more of this type of cardio. However, when you do spurts of high intensity cardio activities (look up "HIIT"), you burn mainly sugar that is stored in your muscles. So you are sending the message to your body to store addition sugar in your muscles. This allows you to work harder in the future AND forces your body to dip into it's fat stores for energy for the next 24-36 hours while it works so hard to store additional sugar.
When I gain a few pounds and need to lean out a little again, I head right for high intensity interval training (HIIT) and I see fast results all the time. Not to mention (while it may be way harder during) it makes you feel amazing after your workouts which contributes to overall well being which reduces cravings due to psychological distress.
Oh! And one more thing! Doing cardio for more than 40 minutes raises cortisol levels (the stress hormone) which encourages fat storage around our midsection, speeds up the aging process and adds to food cravings. I get my workouts done in 35-40 minutes and continue to get in the best shape of my life!

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I'm so very discouaged. I have been working out in the amfor 30 mins, using my gazelle 30 mins at home and walking at lunch 30 mins. I have logged in everything i've eaten. Staying w/in range for calories, protein, carbs. I cant understand how i havent lost weight??? 3 wks and i do feel great but so confused??? Help please w suggestions.

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Exercise work.

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The only time I had real success w/ exercise "making the difference" is when I walked over 500 miles in 6 months, training for a marathon. At the end of the marathon, I posted my lowest weight in the past 6 years. -- I have yet to attain that again.

I realize that I tend to "chase" poor food choices with exercise. At the best, it causes a plateau. At the worst, I gain.

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downloading this to my kindle now, thanks for the tip. I have exercised all my life but am 50 lbs overweight, I definately can say that I believe diet is 80% and exercise is 20% wt loss success. renee



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if you watch your calorie intake!



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Back in the day when I lived with my sister, we decided to go on a diet together. She exercised every day and tried to eat a little more healthy (but had a hard time resisting the Little Debbie snacks in the work vending machine). I stuck to a very strict calorie intake and exercised once a week if at all. She lost around 10 pounds. I lost around 30.

I have found that keeping my calories down works better for me than eating how I normally would (junk, junk, and more junk!) and exercising five days a week.

Of course, the combination of the two works the very best. I find that when I exercise, I am actually less hungry and am especially less hungry for fatty foods. I crave something lighter and fresher after I exercise.

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500 calories burned is a fairly hard workout. If it makes you thirsty enough to drink a recovery drink, that can be 250 calories. Maybe you have a snack too - another 250 calories.

It's actually pretty easy to break even or be in excess for calories working out.

P.S. I think they key to losing and working out is to have a recovery food - I use milk - and limit yourself on calories.

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Exercise=calories burned=weight loss emoticon Correct me if I'm wrong here.

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Oh well all I can say it work for me


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I guess it depends on the person. I, personally have found that diet alone has not worked to help me lose weight. I have only had any success AT ALL if I do both the diet portion and exercising a minimum of 45 minutes (and preferably 60) minutes 5 -6 days per week. Meanwhile, I have a friend who doesn't exercise at all, cuts back on her soda and sunflower seeds intake a little bit and can drop tons of weight fast.

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Weight loss is 80 percent nutrition, 20 percent exercise. I skipped the gym and overate for two week straight. Last Monday, I restarted my plan, and have stayed in or close to calorie range. I've already started noticing results, despite missing one exercise class. Nutrition is absolutely more important than exercise when it comes to losing weight.

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I lost a fair bit of weight and exercise was key.. but not for the reasons you might think.

1] Going to the gym and wokring out takes time. During that time you can't eat

2] If you train hard (not Barbie weights and pilates) , for many people there is an appetite suppressant effect. It certainly happens for me. Afterwards I find it hard to eat and am satisfied with smaller portions of well balanced food

3] prior to going to the gym I hardly every eat much in anticipation of a hard work out (I get cramps with too much food in my stomach) So my food intake is also moderate.

4] Whilst in the gym you have a constant reminder of what shape you are in (mirrors, weights machines that test you). These instruments are as powerful as scales when it comes to monitoring your body.

1] -4] above are I believe, key reasons why exercise helps people lose weigth ...

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I believe that it is a combination of diet AND exercising. And on top of that. "proper" exercise.



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for a person who is completely sedentary, exercise would make more difference. In the beginning, a sedentary person who starts to walk daily would probably see some quick weight loss. But as their body adapts, they would have to add more and more exercise (and still get less results)

For those who are more active, exercise makes more of a difference in body composition than actual weight loss IMO.

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I would say that diet is more important, because of the sheer amount of exercise you have to do to burn off a bad day! Also, if you eat properly and fuel your body, you find exercise easier anyway, so I certainly think diet is the main factor.

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Short answer: I agree that, in general, exercise does not help a person lose weight. It helps fitness, and helps you want to eat more food.

But that is an oversimplified answer.

In my case I gave up on looking for information in pretty much all popular press type sources about 20 years ago. A lot of it is good, much of it bad, and most of it is incomplete. I had no way of knowing when I was following bad advice, so I shut it all out.

Fast forward to 5 years ago when I lost 80 lbs by just dieting. It became pretty clear pretty fast that losing 2 lbs/week I needed to know more about nutrition than I did. So after I was done (!) I decided to learn for myself.

I got Nancy Clark's Sports Nutrition Guidebook, read it front to back. Extremely helpful in making sound decisions under my own power for once.

I have found it's pretty tricky to lose weight while exercising. My body needs a lot of quality fuel, which runs counter to the weight loss process. You sort of have to understand a lot about the process to get it to work. I find it a lot harder to lose while exercising.

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It help me to lose my weight.

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Both are definitely key....but I was just diagnosed with osteopenia and have been reading the book "reversing osteopenia".

What is interesting is that if you DON'T exercise, or do any weight bearing activities you can end up with osteopenia, and if you do TOO MUCH you can end up with it. So moderate activity is apparently key.

So far, the book is saying that you need to do weight bearing exercises (walking, jogging, aerobics, dancing etc) 5 times a week for 30-45 minutes and strength train about 3 times a week (focusing on hips and back exercises, but of course including other muscle groups).

So for me, the exercise (my diet isn't terrible, I just ramped it up with calcium and nutrient dense foods that help with bone loss) will likely help me to lose weight. but would that be considered moderate?

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Both work for me.

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watching your diet helps you loose weight, exercise keeps you healthy

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Help me. Cutting down on my eating and exercising I see it. The weight lost.

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I believe you can lose weight with diet alone, but adding more muscle by exercising speeds the process. It also feels good to be stronger. emoticon



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I love the saying, "You can't out-exercise a bad diet." Because it's so true. Muscle mass will help you burn calories but if your diet is off you won't see the results you're looking for.

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I have heard this, too. There was a NOVA show on in the last couple of weeks called The Truth About Excercize and this was one of the ideas the host explored. They came to the same conclusion but also showed that while it does not help much in weight loss, there are so many other clear and mesurable benefits that it is definitely worth doing.



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I read an article that discussed this issue. One of the scientists that made the study that showed that exercise did not produce weight loss explained why exercise did not help. The women in the study felt that they could eat more since they were losing weight with exercise. They then indulged in bagels and other fattening foods. These experiments did not provide the women with food trackers.

I also agree with the person who brought up the issue of how moderate the exercises were.

They should redo the experiment by providing the women with a food tracker and more intensive exercises.




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I am not sure if it is true or not. I know that the in order to lose weight we need to do both. I am in a plateau where I am eating properly, and tracking all the calories never going over and exercising and nothing is happening. I don't know if it is because I want something to happen quicker but I don't see the scale moving. But I do feel lighter. I think you just need to try to do a bit of exercising every day, get moving a bit more. Just do what you can do.



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First I want to say: Good job for reading something, and then stopping to ask yourself: Does this make sense?

Often times blurbs we read in magazines, or things we see on TV or hear on the radio are watered down versions of studies that have been conducted. They lose some of the original intent in translation. So yes, definitely question: what is the definition of moderate exercise? And "helps you lose weight" over what time period? In respect to what group of people?

Other times we get reports of studies that seem to fly in the face of common knowledge. Never trust a study that hasn't been replicated.

If something seems a little off, ask yourself the right questions, then start asking others. It's the age of information and there is no reason to be duped by shoddy reporting.



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I've read over and over that successful weight loss is 80% proper nutrition, 20% exercise. I've lived it. The healthier I eat, the better my body responds.

That's not discounting exercise, however. It's very important for overall health... cardiovascular, respiratory, strength, increases bone density... I could go on and on. But it's not the KEY component to weight loss.

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You can keep up your bad eating and just exercise and you will lose weight in time. However, it won't stay that way and you can end up gaining it back if you make no other changes. I have done that before for years (I worked a physical job so I didn't feel the need to change my habits, of course that was more than moderate, too) but I did plateau at one point. To be honest, I don't take any stock in those articles. I read an article where women eat an average of 12% less during that time of the month, and that did it for me (different magazine). I know of no woman who will eat less during that time. Sorry to get off topic-I just wanted to mention it.

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Agree with the post questioning what is "moderate exercise." To ME, moderate exercise is taking a walk for 30 minutes three times a week. That's not going to do much for someone's weight loss goals if that's already part of their lifestyle. As DeB mentioned, one has to first calculate what their base for maintenance is, and then exercise above and beyond will create a caloric deficit.



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Um, no, that's completely wrong.

The maths disputes you.

Say someone requires 1700 to maintain and is eating around 1800 on average. They're slowly gaining weight. They notice this and think "Hmm, what can I do about that?"

Instead of eating less, they remain on the same eating plan, but they do 200 calories worth of exercise daily.

Now instead of creating a 100 cal per day surplus, they're creating a 100 cal per day deficit, and they will start losing weight.

To claim exercise has no role at all is to misunderstand the entire weight loss equation.

Though it's true that overeating plus exercise won't help! If our hypothetical person was eating 2,000 a day and doing their 200 a day exercise, they'd still have a 100 cal per day surplus and still gain.

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This is correct! You must combine exercise with dieting. If you eat too much you will not loose weight. All exercise will do is help you loose part of what you eat Overeating keeps you overweight and no amount of exercise will take away the fat.

Aerobic exercise helps to reduce your appetite.but it will not burn all you eat if you consume too much everyday. You must track your food and cut back on what you consume as well as get exercise.

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Well, food is the greater battle if you wish to lose weight. Look there first.

However, if someone maintains weight on, say, 1700 calories per day, and then starts including 250 calories per day of exercise, they are creating a 250 calorie per day deficit purely from the exercise, and would most likely lose a pound every two weeks.

Exercise add to the "calories burned" part of the pure calories burned - calories eaten formula for weight loss. So it helps.

The trouble is, some people think it's the be-all and end-all of weight loss. How many threads have you seen here like "what exercise should I do to lose weight" or "how many minutes exercise should I do to lose weight"? The weight loss is far more about the diet than the exercise, so we should not get caught up in focusing on the exercise, which is all this article probably means.

But it is part of the whole equation, yes.

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I'd have to read it, but I'm wondering how they define "moderate" exercise. Does this mean 30 minutes, three times a week? Does it mean walking? Does it mean strength training? Maybe I'm just being super-analytical here, but I think that "moderate" can be interpreted in a multitude of ways.

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Michelle has said it all, and I totally agree about the weight loss starting in the kitchen..and that has been proven true with me as well...

I love and count the exercise to keep me lean and strong, but I don't count on it for weight loss.



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exercise has been the key for me...but that's because I learned early in this process that I need to consume 1600 calories daily to be a happy person...so to lose a pound a week I needed to burn about 500 a day with exercise...



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A trainer that I had last summer told me that weight loss begins in the kitchen and your strength begins at the gym... that's what I've been living by this last year and it's definitely proven true for me. Both in tandum is the key! Get smaller and stronger by doing both together!

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I certainly agree with the two other posters. Personally I do not exercise to lose weight. I exercise to maximize my oxygen, strenghten my heart, get a better nights sleep, reduce my stress and just make me feel better.
If the exercise can burn some of those silly calories my body needs to survive, I guess that is a nice side benefit.

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I think it helps a lot in that when you are doing substantial exercise in addition to cutting calories, it means you can eat more, and that helps your metabolism. There's also research that notes that people who include exercise in their weight loss efforts have much better success at keeping more of the weight off for longer than people who do not exercise. Maybe it's a marker of greater dedication, maybe the higher food allowance is better for long-term maintenance chances, maybe it's a coincidence, but the research is there.

I don't think that exercise on its own has ever lost me a single pound. It just doesn't make enough of a difference. Unless you're going hog wild nuts with it, it makes up only a small fraction of the calories you burn in a day, little enough that your body just absorbs the change and keeps on going. The vast majority of people are going to need to reduce calories significantly in order to lose any real weight.

However, for purposes of greater health, exercise is at least as important as weight loss. Probably more so. Improving cardiovascular and muscular fitness is so important. I think most doctors would probably advise an averagely overweight patient to exercise over cutting calories, if they could only do one or the other.

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Hi,

So I wanted to share my opinion. Everything I ever read says that generally you need to burn more calories than you eat. So while exercise doesn't make you lose weight on its own, it does help you burn more calories than you eat.

I also agree with Coach Jen about the other benefits. My mom is going to be 83, she has trouble walking, gets tired, has a bad back, etc. Yes she has Arthritis, but she sits as much as she can. She was never really active and as she got older it got worse. She thinks everything over 1lb is too heavy, she can't carry anything, has not muscle tone. Meantime, my uncle is 90yo, he is constantly moving. He is active and runs around as fast as I do. He even was in a Kayak race last year (he won his age group because he was the only entry). Has he slowed down since he was 50, sure, but he is still in great shape.

So overall, I do think exercise helps with weight loss, not on its own, but the fact that it keeps you active. I also think that exercise keeps you young, which keeps you active, which in the end helps with keep weight off. Once you sit too much, you allow your body to lose muscle, which slows your metabolism, etc.

I don't dispute the article, just say there is so much more to it than what was probably in the article.



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It's true that the majority of your weight loss progress comes from what you eat, not exercise. But just because it's not a large contributor to weight loss doesn't mean exercise doesn't have a host of other benfits- reduced risk of certain diseases, a stronger heart, less stress, etc. So don't let the article discourage you :)

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So I just read this article in Good Housekeeping that says moderate exercise does not help a person lose weight. The article said that it would help you become a little leaner but it actually didn't help people lose weight. I am not agreeing or disputing the article....I was just wondering what others thought about this....
So what do YOU think???? Does it help or not???



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