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tomorrow am

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Yea!



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Can't wait until tomorrow. Yoga 9:15am

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The points which I think that are being missed by the aficionados is that there is no additional fitness benefit from doing the yoga in a sauna contrary to the unsubstantiated claims of the promoters and working out in a high heat and humidity environment can have negative physical consequences. We all have the option to choose what we do for fitness but anecdotal evidence is just an opinion and not something on which we should base our evaluation of the efficacy or benefit of any specific workout.


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Cardio burns calories, strength work burns fat.

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Yea! Did it this morning!



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Nay. I've never done regular yoga so this version would be out. I don't really have any interest in yoga. I'm not a fan of classes. If I am going to workout in the heat, I'd rather run, walk, hike, or ride my bike....or do my own strength training outside in the heat and humidity of the southeastern US.



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love it

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Yea - I love to sweet



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I love hot yoga( Bikram), I practiced for 75 straight days until I relocated. Now I cant find a studio to practice regularly. Not only did it improve my stamina and endurance, I showed a dramatic decrease in blood pressure. I would suggest consulting with a physician as the temperature in the room is between 105-115 degrees,

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Since I first posted, I have continued doing hot yoga off and on this year and I do enjoy it. I like the mental challenge and I am strengthening muscles in order to hold poses longer in proper form. I had a sinus cold over Thanksgiving and getting into the hot room really helped clear things up. And the endorphin thing afterwards is nice. I also bike, run, bellydance and do Jillian Michaels videos occasionally. I'm glad this topic got people talking and whatever workouts you enjoy, keep doing them! emoticon



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Love it and been doing it for 10+ years. I don't practice it for the calorie burn - more for strengthening my legs and stretching my back.



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All I know is getting that hot makes me nauseous. I couldn't do it.



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I wish I had a hot yoga studio nearby!

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I just started a few weeks ago & I absolutely love it. Plus the heat is nice this time of year. Also, I had & cold & the moist warm room helped clear me up.



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I can find hundreds of sites quoting it, but not one that explains the source of that statement.

You're right, it's a very odd thing for a THEORETICAL physicist to say...

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""The only source of knowledge is experience." - Albert Einstein

So nobody knows a darned thing about suicide, then?

What a load of rubbish that statement is. I would be surprised if it's really Einstein's - or perhaps it was intended in a scientific experiment context rather than an absolute statement about everything."

Not to mention, wasn't Albert Einstein a theoretical physicist? Hard to experience the speed of light. ;) I'd say he didn't mean that you can't know something you haven't experienced, only that hands-on experience is often the best teacher. After all, I know a lot about running... but that doesn't mean I'm a good runner!

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"The only source of knowledge is experience." - Albert Einstein

So nobody knows a darned thing about suicide, then?

What a load of rubbish that statement is. I would be surprised if it's really Einstein's - or perhaps it was intended in a scientific experiment context rather than an absolute statement about everything.

I've never personally pushed a soldering gun into an eye socket, placed my hand on a hotplate, or bought "miracle weight loss pills" from an infomercial. I don't need to try those things to know they're harmful.

I don't need to go to a hot yoga class to know it's just yoga ... in heat. It's not super better at anything, especially burning calories, than any other form of yoga.

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My final comment is based on my experience in the military. When I was a physical training instructor for recruits way back in the dark ages when a certain combination of heat and humidity was reached the red flag went up and we no longer worked physically fit young males in that environment. Later in my military career I witnessed many very fit hard core young soldiers collapse in high heat and humidity environments. Heat and humidity have the potential to cause heat injuries and even fatalities. The human body can not adapt to heat stress according to the research.

There is in my opinion no rationale for deliberately doing physical exercise of any form in a high humidity,high heat environment. As supposed benefits are not supported by the research contrary to all the "testimonials". If you choose to do it recognize there is no established research which says it is a better form of yoga than any other and there is a potential for adverse effects.

You are free to assess the benefits and potential risks.

Edited by: SERGEANTMAJOR at: 12/4/2013 (19:38)

It is called WORK-ing out for a reason.

I said getting fit was simple, I did not say it was easy.

Cardio burns calories, strength work burns fat.

Eat well to lose weight, exercise to get fit

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After reading all the posts, and having tried it myself, I am curious: what did you decide to do - try it again or not?



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Would love to try it.



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"The only source of knowledge is experience." - Albert Einstein

There are different types of hot yoga (all of which were derived from Bikram Choudhury). Try one, try them all, and see if you like it. Not everyone does.

Just be sure to hydrate in the days, not hours, before class. And don't forget to breathe.





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Yoga cannot lengthen your muscles. Muscles are attached to bone, and the only way you would be able to "lengthen" your muscles would be stretch the bone that holds them.

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However, you are right that some forms of yoga can be fairly cardiovascular. There is just a persistent myth that hotter = more calories burned. If that were true, all we'd need to do to lose weight is sit in a sauna all the time. Way easier than this exercise thing. ;)

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I want to chime in again and say that no, yoga is not all about flexibility. I used to think that, and while flexibility is a huge huge part of it, is it also good for strengthening, not just lengthening. I often feel in hot yoga the focus is on stretching the pose more than holding the pose. When I practice, I go a tiny bit further than my current ROM and hold, engaging my muscles to keep me there and to build strength. Lengthening and strengthening. This is great because traditionally strength training can cause us to lose flexibility if we aren't diligent about stretching after. To do advanced poses though strength is a must. Nobody can say strength isn't involved in a handstand. But that is what yogis work up to, sometimes. And they can hold it for a while. IMO, those who do hot yoga seem so focused on stretching and getting dizzy, not on the strength aspect of it. The challenge becomes standing the heat longer, or stretching further, not muscular endurance and advancing to the new poses.

The idea that yoga is not a calorie burner is also false. Certain types definitely can be. I practice a hatha focused on simply holding a pose for a minute or so myself, and that is DEFINITELY not a major cal burner. I will burn maybe an extra 60 calories an hour. Maybe. But I have done some ashtanga/vinyasa. In those classes, we tied a movement to each inhale or exhale. Not sure if that is typical as I do not practice that style. You could go slower or faster, depending on your breathing, but my HR did creep up. In my hatha practices, I'd have a 98ish HR (up from a 54 resting). In the ashtanga session, it was in the 120s. So, you CAN make yoga burn more calories, but only by increasing pose frequency, not by changing the temperature.

It seems you can really get any kind of benefit depending on how you string together the poses.

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Nobody said you "don't burn calories". Thinking burns calories. Chewing burns calories. Sex burns calories. None of those are "cardio exercise". Neither is yoga, which burns *some* calories, but is not a "calorie burner" type of exercise.

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I have done hot yoga a couple of times and really enjoyed it. I disagree with those saying you don't burn calories. You have to use muscles to hold the poses, so you are burning calories. As for the heat, it makes you focus more on what you are doing; and you just need to be hydrated when you go to class, not try to catch up during. Also, not all hot yoga is Bikram; so you can practice any pose in the hot atmosphere.

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My daughter and I just tried Moshka yoga for the first time. The positions weren't especially challenging, but it was so darn hot that it made it tiring. We signed up for a month of 'all you can do' at the yoga place, and I look forward to going again. I started with a tank top, bra and shorts. The tank top came off soon after we started. The least amount of clothing is the best. And you NEED a towel. I've never sweat so much in my life. There were people there with at least 2L of water to start. Now I know. I think it has alot to do with the instructor as far as doing too much. Ours was walking around all the time, and fixing people. She had my daughter not go so far at one point, which I was happy about. I don't want her hurt. If you're new to yoga, I wouldn't necessarily suggest hot yoga. You have to be completely comfortable with yourself, and not push too hard. Remember that just showing up, is practice. Whenever you feel like you need a break, take it. Child's pose, downward dog, anything really, until you're ready to go some more.

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I'd say, "no" because I would be afraid of overheating and/or getting dehydrated. I like the yoga I do now.

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Nay.

Like some other said, I usually end up really sore for days afterwards because the heat makes your muscles stretch more than they are used to/should/can.I went four times and after the first time of being so sore, I really tired not to over do it the next times I went, but I was still sore every time.

I also need a nap afterwards, it makes me so tired. emoticon

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Thank you for all the replies. Very informative. I am going to try another class on Sunday and see how it goes. I like that the heat warms up the muscles and helps with flexibility. I was not sore after my first class so I don't think I over stretched. It also seems that the heat is more of a mental challenge than adding to the exercise level. Anyway, thanks again for all of your opinions and advice. I really appreciate it! emoticon



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Tried it several times, just didn't enjoy it.

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The heat isn't about burning more calories or losing weight...

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While I love yoga, I say nay.

It isn't really any more challenging of a workout for me in that the motions are exactly the same. My muscles aren't being challenged. However, the heat in the room can be dangerous! I have not seen any credible evidence that it burns more calories- it seems just to be a Sauna Effect (losing water weight because of how much you sweat)

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I really love yoga. I practice it at least once a week, sometimes even four. Nevertheless, I guess it is nay for me. In a Power Yoga class I am already getting to the maximum of my heat resistance. I cannot imagine myself in a hot/humid room doing yoga...

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yay...i love it

i love challenging workouts

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It has exactly the same benefits as cold yoga, which is a great non-cardio stretching workout to improve your flexibility. The heat helps your muscles stay physically warm, which helps with stretching.

However, as M@L said, you cannot wear your HRM and count the calories. No, the earlier poster did not burn 850 calories. Your HR will always be elevated in a hot room, even if you're sitting there doing nothing. So an HRM is not capable of offering a burn figure for this activity. Additionally, HRMs are only valid for cardio, and yoga is not cardio.

You burn calories by moving. You perform yoga by holding a pose still. It is not a calorie burner. It has other benefits for your whole-body fitness.

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With the caveat that this is just my opinion, definitely nay.
In addition to the frequence of over-stretching, the dehydration possibility is huge, which is only combated by drinking liquids, far more liquids than needed in non-hot yoga, which feels uncomfortable during yoga and twisting.

But aside from that, Bikram is limited to 26 postures. There are over 900. As the body begins to adapt to those poses, there's nowhere to go, and you're not getting the full range of motion benefits from a complex, varied yoga routine.

People sometimes say that non-hot yoga doesn't feel challenging; in my experience, that means they just aren't taking a hard enough level class. Non-hot yoga has the benefits of being able to offer different levels of difficulty. Bikram does not, and is challenging because of the physical difficulty of working out and not dying in a high heat/humidity situation. That's not the kind of challenge that I personally think does anything positive, it's very artificial. It's more of a 'survival' challenge than challenging your muscles. Think about any hot yoga class you've taken; chances are you were most focused on trying not to feel lightheaded or faint, thinking only about how hot it was and how you wanted to be done, and if you needed more water or if you could go without it for a bit longer. Sort of a negative challenge IMO.

For me, yoga is about listening to your body and really learning yourself in postures, working slowly over time toward a greater balance and flexibility and strength. Focusing on what you're doing, not what the environment of heat is doing to you.

But like I said, just one opinion.



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Nay. Just went to see my orthopedist yesterday after injuring my knee in yoga. He asked if I was doing hot yoga, and told me not to do it. He says he sees lots of over stretching and tendon rupture injuries because the heat gives people the false impression that they are more flexible than they really are.



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One of the problems with HRM's for hot yoga is that in extremely hot conditions, your heart rate will naturally increase as the heart pumps blood to the extremities, where heat can escape more easily. This elevated heart rate will give an overestimate of calories burned for things like hot yoga, over what you actual ACTIVITY level justifies.

Someone earlier in this thread reported burning 850 calories - this is extremely unlikely from a hot yoga session, and likely is an example of this accelerated heart rate issue.

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I used to do a lot of it 10 years ago in Toronto... I loved it!

Caveats:
Don't wear heavy clothes, you are going to sweat like nobody's business.
Lots of water. LOTS.
Towel. LOTS of towel.

It's hard. Really hard. Even when I'd been going for a while and was pretty fit, sometimes I'd get dizzy and have to take a break for 2 minutes. No shame in that. So don't be discouraged if you don't get through an entire first class the first time!

My other yoga teacher, who studied Iyengar, said it was okay but a bit like "putting the cart before the horse." I totally get that. It's a very physical yoga. Yoga as an entire practice can be so much more than that. But I don't think that should stop anyone from trying it.

You'll feel like hell when you're doing it, and you will feel better than you've ever felt before 10 minutes after the class. It releases huge endorphins. :) Enjoy!

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I've never heard of it. I must find out what it is.

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Great to know, I have my first hot yoga class tomorrow and am nervous/excited. I was thinking of wearing my polar heart rate monitor to see how many calories I burn, I have a Polar FT60, any idea if that will work in the hot yoga room?



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The main dangers of hot yoga is basically the heat... and they'll be the same as doing ANY exercise in the heat. Stay hydrated, listen to your body, wear appropriate clothing, etc.

Yoga of any kind provides lots of great benefits. Improved flexibility is definitely one of them!

It may not be for everyone (I don't sweat well, and am prone to heat related illness as a result... I can't do hot yoga safely) but it definitely is worth a try!

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I've gone once and liked it! I haven't been back because I BEYOND embarrassed myself there. We are Italian and eat garlic in everything. Long story short, I stunk up the place because I was sweating garlic! If you decide to try it, don't eat garlic before hand. lol



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I love it! I just bring ALOT of water. I am not an expert at yoga but love hot yoga, I feel like I get a great workout.



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I'm a huge fan! I've been doing it off and on for 5 years. Even though I thought I was going to die during my first class, I was hooked. I think it's improved my overall health and helps me to lose weight. My flexibilty and stength have definitely improved. I also run and lift heavy weights. I know if I'm too tired to do anything else, I'll be able to get in a good workout in the hot room. Last time I wore my heart rate monitor, I burned 850 calories. I do it 2-3 times/week now.

The only problems that I have exer experienced is over-stretching. I never injured myself, but my hips have hurt for a few day from a couple of the poses (wind removing and triangle).

And for the first time in the past 5 years, I witnessed a person faint. She was holding her breath.
Just make sure you BREATHE and enjoy the heat.

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A friend of mine teaches Bikram Yoga and I finally decided to take a class. I researched it a little bit online and found quite a bit of controversy about it and people with strongly held opinions either way. I found the class difficult (both in the heat aspect and since I haven't really done much yoga at all) but was considering giving it some time to see if I "warm" up to it. emoticon

Have any of you had experiences with it? Positive or negative, I'm interested in hearing what you guys have experienced or know about the benefits or potential dangers of this exercise.

Thanks!
Carolyn



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