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3/2/14 6:36 P

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We do import all of the data that's given to us by the USDA.

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3/2/14 6:20 P

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That's a shame. The USDA database has the data, you use their database, there is no cost or effort required to get it. You permit tracking of those nutrients. Why not just bring in what's in USDA?

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3/2/14 6:11 P

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Iron and potassium are not required to be reported on food labels, which is why you'll find a lot of foods in our database don't have that information. That might be why it seems like data is missing from a lot of the USDA entries.

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3/2/14 5:43 P

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ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4286?fg=&m
an=&lfacet=&format=&count=&max=25&offs
et=&sort=&qlookup=coffee


Perhaps not a lot but if you drink enough, it adds up. Iron, Potassium



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3/2/14 3:04 P

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Hi John

Coffee doesn't have a lot of micronutrients in it. Which ones were you expecting to find?

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3/2/14 1:03 P

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Hi Jen,

You asked some time ago if I had issues finding other foods, Can't find generic coffee with a micronutrient listing.

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3/2/14 12:01 A

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Thank you for trying.
I've tried all the possible button combinations, If anyone is looking for suggestions, it would be nice to have a button to exclude the user contributed entries from the search. While some are no doubt useful, there is an awful lot of noise there.
I ended up using Canadian Bacon which is probably a reasonable approximation and has all the micronutrient values listed.

John



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3/1/14 12:50 P

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Hi John

I'm sorry I'm not much help so far. Is bacon the only entry you're having an issue with? When you search, is the button checked to search all items (not just manually entered, etc.)?

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2/28/14 7:06 P

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Bacon, pork, microwaved
Louis Rich Turkey Bacon
Hormel Bacon Bits
Canadian Bacon
Butterball Turkey Bacon

These would be random I guess depending on when the search is done. When sorted, it starts with Applebees then Arby's. The last in the Arby's list is:

Arby's Turkey Bacon Club Toasted Sub and then
Bacon - Butterball Turkey Bacon

To my way of thinking, if there was a plain, ordinary Bacon, it should be between those two.

Very perplexing.

John




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2/28/14 5:56 P

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Can you tell me the first few entries you see when you search for bacon?

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Coach Jen

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2/28/14 4:53 P

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Thank you

No, still the same problem



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2/28/14 4:27 P

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John,

When you search are you just typing in bacon (with no quotes around it)? I found a number of entries popped up, and most of the first ones weren't user entered. Those same entries came up when I did a food search to create a food grouping. Many were name-brand entries (like Hormel or Louis Rich), but there were a number of USDA entries in the list.

Does that help at all?

Coach Jen

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2/28/14 2:13 P

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Hi, Actually, I have 2 possibly related problems.

1. I'm trying to select bacon for the tracker. I see a long, long list of entries shared by members. It's wonderful that everyone wants to share but no one has entered the micronutrient values. I tried and can understand why. It's an absolute nightmare to convert the absolute values from the USDA database to the %RDV for every nutrient..

My understanding was the Spark People database had the USDA as a backbone and searching for "bacon" should result in finding the USDA entry.

2. Couldn't do it so I gave up and selected this "Bacon (fried) 1 slice". This works fine when I select and add it to the tracker. However, when I tried to create a Food Group, I could not find it in the search window in order to add it to the group.

Any ideas? Am I doing something wrong?

John





 
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