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3/3/15 6:15 A

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Kathy, enjoying only one glass of wine leaves some to share with your kawan, kawan. I hope Nolan can get rid of the cough. I found that when Davis was stuffy, filling the bath with warm water and letting him play, helped him nap more comfortable. Vicks on the chest helps too.

Prema, the physiotherapist says the right knee is much weaker than the left. The left one I worked on last spring, and the results have remained favorable. Let's see if we can say the same for the right after 6 weeks.

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3/3/15 4:31 A

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Pat, that knee is definitely troubling. Please tell us what the physiotherapist has to say about this.

Kathy, one glass...my dear kawan, you do not give in to temptation as easily as I do and would have done had I had in my possession, a good bottle of wine. I feel very sorry for Nolan and his cough - it is uncomfortable for most kids to go through this. However, on the flip side, he did get you to "rest" in one place, didn't he? Will you be able to manage with both kids on your own tomorrow? Especially when one of them is not well?

You and Pat set very high "granny" standards...my mentors!!!

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First, I try to have one glass of wine (not the whole bottle) at a time.🍷 Second, I don't usually imbibe while shoveling. emoticon

Nolan was sub-par today. He had a rough cough that would wake him as soon as I put him down. He had a couple of longer naps, but I held him the entire time he slept, simply because he didn't cough on my lap. He had a lot of lap time today...didn't play much. I'll have both kids tomorrow afternoon while Kelley has a class for work.

I loved you, my kawan-kawan!

Kathy

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3/2/15 7:37 A

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Prema, the knees are not being kind to me. I have homework from PT and it seems to make my knees hurt more. I go back today and will mention it to the therapist. It sounds like you have been very busy and I don't see Kathy sharing her wine. Good idea to have a drink instead of shoveling.

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3/2/15 5:36 A

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Hi kawan-kawan. Got back very late from Indonesia on Friday night. Did all my errands on Saturday, crashed early and then on Sunday, did my run and cooked for about 7 people from my son's office who were invited for dinner. Nice bunch of people!

Pat, your grandsons are very very handsome boys. I love the smiles. I will try and post pictures too of the "kids" in my life, apart from my own children, who are very important people in my life. How are the knees doing? Did they survive well over the weekend?

Kathy, your bottle of wine sounded very very good especially when today has been a pretty challenging day at the office. I echo Pat's advice...please take it easy when shoveling snow...followed by my advice which is : no need to take it easy when chugging down a good bottle of wine...SP may not necessarily agree with me!!!

Have a great start to your week, ladies...beeeeeeg hugs, Prema

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Kathy, I understand. We have 6 inches of new snow already today. My daughter and Donovan came over and shoveled.

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I guess the shiny floor looked like ice! Maybe I just have cold on the brain. emoticon

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2/28/15 9:45 P

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Kathy, take it easy with the shoveling. We are supposed to get your snow tonight and tomorrow, maybe 6 inches. That picture was Donovan's basketball game. It was the last game of the season. (If I got on skates, I wouldn't we writing back to you because I would be in the ER.) LOL

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Snowy Kansas!! I've shoveled twice. Snow had stopped for now--my guess is about 8 inches. My back hurts, but I'm about ready to pop the cork on a bottle of wine and read for a while.

Handsome, happy guys. Did you skate?





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Hey Prema and Kathy, you can now add pictures to posts. Pretty neat.



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Kathy, a wise choice. When I go back on the 23rd of March, I will probably ask about it, and if possible, schedule it for this summer when my daughter is off work.

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All I can share, Pat, is that I waited far too long for my knee replacements. I have a high pain threshold too, but I've decided not to wait on the new pain; pain-free is a much better option. I called this morning. I was scheduled to see the doctor in May for my final checkup on my left knee ; the receptionist moved my appointment back a couple of days when I told her I was having hip pain that I thought was responsible for the pain in my left knee. The nurse called me back and scheduled me in on March 25--about six weeks earlier.
I got used to not hurting--don't want to backtrack.

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Prema, thanks for caring for me and my knees. I go back next month and options will be discussed. You are right about my tolerance for pain. It is very high and if I complain, he knows it's serious. I told Donovan today that I am not allowed to shovel for the rest of the season and he has graciously agreed to help.

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2/25/15 8:45 A

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Oh Pat, this is not good at all. Bone on bone...will you be needing a knee implant soon, my kawan? This is worrying...you have a high tolerance for pain which is good in some situations but not in this...you may have been in pain for quite a while and ignored it, thinking it isn't too bad. Oh dear kawan, please ask the doctor for a complete rundown on all the options available to you, the benefits and repercussions for each and what would be the best 2 or 3 options for you. Sorry Pat, if I sound bossy - I don't mean to. It's just that you could end up suffering from osteoarthritis and that is even more painful. Please take care.

Kathy, should we fly over to Pat's place? That way, I can kill 3 birds with one stone. I can finally see both of you + I can get you away from painting the house in the middle of a cold blitz + we can both keep an eye on Pat while I cook Asian delicacies for both of you. Does this or does this not sound like a very good plan??

It will have to be next week though as I will be away for the next 2 days - I will be in Indonesia on work and will catch up with both of you in a few days time.

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We broke a record low for this date. The low back in 1914 was -1, today it was -11. I had x-rays this morning and they said that I have bone on bone in my right knee too. Arthritis is there also. No more shoveling or zumba until after I complete a 6 weeks / 3 times a week physical therapy. I was given a shot of cortisone too. It breaks my heart to have to give up these two activities. I go back again in 4 weeks.

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I'm anxious to hear what the doctor says, Pat.

We had more snow yesterday, barely measurable though. It was cold--still is.

Glad to hear Vishal is getting better. I'm hoping that Stella will be able to help with snow before too long. The problem is that she'll be in school and not available. That stinks!!

Right now I'm trying to figure out which room to paint first. I need to go to the library to pick up the book club book they're holding for me.

Prema, I'm with you about Lady Gaga. I've never been a fan of her flamboyant style, but I was flabbergasted at her performance at the Oscars.

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Prema, I am looking forward to the days when Davis and Donovan get to help out with outdoor chores. School is closed today due to very low temps, with the actual air temps at -10. I was going to go alone and leave Davis with DH, but now he can come with me and I will not have to worry about directions. This is a different location on the other side of Columbus, so I'm glad he is coming. I will keep you posted.

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Hi Kathy. I watched a repeat of the Academy Awards last night as the live telecast was on during our working hours. I have watched "How to Train Your Dragon 2" which was one of the nominations for best animation movie. That was funny. I will also be watching Grand Budapest Hotel as I now have this movie in my laptop. I was never a big fan of Lady Gaga but I was truly taken aback when she went through all the songs from Sound of Music...she was brilliant!

Will try and not baby my son too much...but he's a darling. Pre-ACL rupture, he was my errand boy and would drive me around the weekends if I needed to buy stuff. When I needed to go shopping , he tagged along to help me carry stuff. So....

Pat, my dear kawan, we (I speak for Kathy too) are both upset about your knees especially when your good knee has been behaving itself up to now. Please keep us posted about the feedback from the orthopedic surgeon. Hope he does not have to do anything invasive. When your two little men become bigger, they will help you with most of your chores so that your knee will never go through shoveling aches and pains!!! Take care, my kawan.

Beeeeeeg Hugs, Prema

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Prema, so glad to hear that Vishal is doing well. It's nice that he has had company and that you provided a nice home cooked meal for the boys. You are so nice to him.

Kathy, I only go to kid movies too. My husband does not care for movies, so I don't see any of the ones that win awards.

Okay, guys, you got me on the exercises, but like Prema said, I have overdone them. I don't know if it was the extreme cold or from being off during the trip to NY (2 days sitting in a car), but after shoveling twice yesterday and going to zumba, my "good" knee is yelling at me. I have an appointment with the orthopedic doctor tomorrow morning.

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Nolan's down for his nap but will probably wake before too long. It's snowing here again, but we are not having any accumulation like those farther east. The snow yesterday was wet; I tried to sweep it but ended up with the snow shovel--even though it wasn't a significant amount.

Glad to hear Vishal's doing well...don't baby him too much!!

I watched most of the Academy Awards last night, but the only movie I'd seen was Gone Girl--that was with the book club, and I wasn't a fan. Of course, most of the movies I see are with Stella...before too long, with Nolan.

Be safe,
Kathy

Psst, Prema, Pat's emoticon making us look lazy. emoticon

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Hi Pat. Congrats kawan...you exceeded your target of 2000 minutes by a huge amount...and we are not even at the end of February. Here's the thing...it's one thing you shovel driveways all over America, but I am convinced that your exercising through vacation (unlike me!) has contributed greatly to the amassing of such a huge number of points.... emoticon emoticon .

Kathy....pssssttt...isn't our kawan absolutely disgusting??? Please reply with an emoticon so that she will not know that we are all speaking in front of her back!!!

Anyway, my Vishal is doing well. Getting absolutely bored out of his skull staying as long as he has rooted in one place...the house! Over the 4-day holiday period, his friends came over and I cooked for all of them. So, between the food and their company, it definitely boosted his ego. Even the leftovers enjoyed the chiller for only half a day as someone else came the following days and gobbled up the last bits...Oh, and this time, you will be pleased to know that I exercised as usual. Of course, the fact that I was at home and not away, helped in the process...but it's a start. I did exercise!!

Have a great week ahead, my darling kawan-kawan!!!

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Prema, we had 6.9 inches of snow yesterday which was a record for that day. I'm sorry to hear that your weather is bad in the opposite way of ours. I hope your water does not have to be rationed, too bad we can't send you some of ours. How is Vishal doing?

Today we will finally celebrate Davis's birthday. He's been waiting a long time for his party, even though he had 2 parties last weekend.

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One driveway is good, Pat! Just one driveway.

The weather here is very hot and there's talk of water rationing in the future. The run this morning was not very enjoyable and I ended up walking the last 1.5 km as I was too spent. I hope that we have interspersed showers soon...

Have a good Sunday, my kawan-kawan.

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Prema, I cleared out 4.5 inches of snow out of the driveway. I did only mine as the neighbors have the weekend off and can do for themselves. I will probably have to go out one more time.

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Hi my kawan-kawan. I am getting a little concerned about the weather in your part of the world. As this is now the end of February, hasn't the goundhog indicated, at all, that spring is around the corner...and I mean the immediate corner and not a hundred miles away!!!

Come to think of it, we have not heard from Chucky and JoAnn for quite a while. Hope they are both doing okay...

The weather in Malaysia has been pretty decent and we have not suffered the heatwave that had been predicted by every weatherman around Asia. I am hoping that you guys luck out as well and start seeing some improvements in your weather situation so that there is less shoveling, slippery driveways and painful hips. Please take care my friends...will be thinking of both of you and praying that all remains okay!

Have a good weekend, my kawan-kawan. Beeeeg Hugs, Prema

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Kathy, no news from Chucky. He's getting some pretty cool temps down there in Florida. No as cold as here, but for those people, it's hard.

Off to bed so that I can get in some heavy duty shoveling tomorrow.

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We're still above freezing, but the winds tend to be strong.

I've started cleaning out some closets. You've inspired me to do some more of that tonight.

Prayers for Vishal.

Anybody heard from Chuck?

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Kathy, prayers for your hip. I don't know how cold you are, but we had -9 this morning, without the wind chill. Another day without school, so I have the day off.

Prema, I only worked one day this week, with the president's day on Monday and school closed on Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. My DH and I did some cleaning out of a closet in the basement. We made it about 40% of the way. When Jim's mom died and my youngest daughter moved out, a lot of stuff found it's way to our basement. We will be bringing some of DD's stuff to Davis's birthday party on Sunday and she can decide on if she wants to keep or trash the stuff.

They are predicting 4-8 inches of snow for Saturday, so I will be getting in plenty of shoveling.

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Please join your prayers to mine for my hip.

Weather is supposed to get colder, but I'm not sure that translates into weather anything like what's happening farther east. We've had it pretty easy, and that's just fine with me!!

I was supposed to meet the ROMEOs for breakfast this morning, but I just don't feel like getting out. They'll just be minus this solitary female presence!

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Hi Kathy and Pat. What a coincidence that both of you had to face car problems...which eventually cost less that either one of you expected. When Malaysians hear of an unusual situation or coincidence like the one both of you faced, the first thing we say to the other person is that they should buy a lottery ticket...the premise being that if they could be part and parcel of a weird coincidence, they could also enjoy a higher-than-normal probability of winning a lottery ticket!!

Vishal is doing his daily exercises as prescribed by the physiotherapist; today, there will be a guy visiting him at home to assess his condition and to do physiotherapy with him for an hour. He does show a lot of courage and resilience, I must say. And yes, you are right. Even the doctors were puzzled by his reaction to needles as I was, too! As for my husband, Bhaskaran...he was worried and did shed tears just before Vishal went in for surgery and I had to prop 2 men up. Vishal, I can understand, but his father???? Truth be told, Bhaskaran is not at all good in a crisis and I found out again that in situations like these, I should keep him occupied in some form or other leaving me free to manage on my own. The surgery took an hour longer than originally scheduled and he completely fell apart and lost it. I had to raise my voice for him to get a grip on himself. Can you imagine Hollywood making a movie out of our 3 lives, my kawan-kawan? We will be both the hero and heroines!!! The men will be totally inconsequential to the movie.

Have a great Friday, m'ladies. And thank you for all your prayers. My emoticon and my big emoticon to both of you.

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Kathy, sorry to hear of your hip pain. My daughter's car problem was the throttle body and it cost less than $400 to repair. I was surprised to see it be so low. We paid for it because she can't and I did not want the car to sit around and not be used.

Prema, prayers for Vishal.

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The brake job on the car was $500+. I've had the car since 2009 and most of the work has been very routine, so I feel fortunate. It's just that, on top of the new water heater, this year is off to an expensive start.

I've been having some right hip pain. Right now I'm treating it with ibuprofen and prayer. One day at a time. I'm hoping that it is my body (with new knees) reacting to my movement being different.

Wow, Prema, how scary all of that had to be for you! Neither of my sons is fond of needles, but I hadn't ever heard of that condition. Nice that you have a couple of days free to show some extra love to Vishal. How's Bhaskaran doing with all this?

I'm meeting my brother and sister-in-law for breakfast, so I'm heading out. Have a good one!

Kathy

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Kathy, so glad you got some cake. All the money spent and Stella probably will be expecting it to get bigger and better as she ages. I think the party for Davis this Sunday will probably be put on for less than $100, cake included.

Prema, such a scare, I am glad that the surgery is over and that Vishal made it through. The hard work is still ahead of him.

4 more inches of snow today. I did my driveway only and it's already covered again. I took an ibuprofen after that and before I get out there again. No zumba today as I don't like venturing out when the back roads are a mess.

Daughter's car had problems Monday and we took it to the dealer last night. It's the car we gave her last month. Waiting for the dealer to call back with the bad news of the cost.

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Hi kawan-kawan. The surgery went off well. Thank God. They had to postpone the surgery last week because of the 3 vasovagal attacks that he suffered in a row when they prepped him with a line for the GA. The 3rd attack was the most scary as the anesthesiologist could not detect a pulse and the ECG had gone flat. There was no choice but for the surgery to be stopped and for my Vishal's condition to be examined. As it turns out, he has situational vasovagal and it's with needles - on the surface, he is okay with needles, but his body isn't...and within 3 seconds of a jab, he passes out. The main issue with him is that the fall in blood pressure and pulse rate is very precipitous. Pulse rate was 25 beats per minute!! So yesterday, they completely knocked him out with sedative and gas before administering GA and the surgery which was assessed at no more than an hour took 2 hours as the doctors were monitoring his situation very carefully. the next many months will be spent in physiotherapy...poor thing!

As for Theresa, you are soooooo right! That was really an over-the top party. I can understand throwing a huge bash for a patriarch or matriarch celebrating 80 years of age but Stella and her age...really!!! And thank God for you and for noticing that Nolan needed a nap...the poor dear. And he must have been really tired to have knocked out for 2 hours.

Pat, a very very friendly reminder that your knee was crying for help not too long ago...and you are subjecting those very same knees to 4 driveways! One driveway is hard enough...4 is tantamount to murder. Terrible murder...to the knees. And you just made it back home from New York. Tell me honestly, my dear kawan...does this not sound like a recipe for disaster. emoticon emoticon .

We are on holiday for 2 days, Thursday and Friday due to the Chinese New Year celebrations in Malaysia. i will probably spend most of that time, if not all, with Vishal.

Thanks again my dear kawan-kawan for all your concerns.

Beeeeeeeg Hugs, Prema

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I was at Teresa's house. They have a 4-car garage built just east of the house--at least it was built as a garage; anyway the garage was where her party was. The west wall contains a huge, I guess it's a television. During Stella's party they were playing the Frozen movie on it. They also have 4 large leather rocker/recliners they use when they gather to watch sports. My son knew I was in the house with the baby and brought me cake. I'm guessing at the total, but the bill for the food was laying on the table, and it was over $1300. That didn't include the cake, cookies, cake balls, nuts, chips, fresh vegetables, yogurt cups (melted snowmen), dipped strawberries, cheese sticks, and drinks--both alcoholic and non alcoholic. Like I said, "Over the top."

Take it easy on those knees.

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Kathy, wow, that is some birthday party if it cost around $2,000. It was nice of you to take Nolan to your house to get him some sleep. Hopefully you got a piece of cake when you got back.

I shoveled 4 driveways and walks today and my knees are yelling at me for being on them for so long. Oh well, it's good exercise.

Prema, I hope everything is going well.

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About Rob, I'm okay. I've prayed so much and I believe God has a plan for Rob; I just don't know what it is, but I definitely trust that He knows what's best for Rob. It was disheartening that they couldn't figure out the rules for so long. I can't believe this hasn't happened to anyone previously.

The party was, once again, huge for any little kid. I spent a couple of hours in the house with Nolan; he was tired and there was no way he was going to go to sleep with that many people and that much noise. I asked Teresa if I could take him to the house, and he was asleep within 10 minutes. He slept for nearly two hours, so I missed the opening of gifts and cutting of the (castle) cake. Stella was really excited that her best friend from school came...and I'm not sure she knew that she'd been invited. I'm guessing that the party cost upwards of $2000.00.

We had snow last night, but it was not much and it's gone now!

Prema, I'm trusting that Vishal's surgery went well and that he heals quickly. Keep us posted.

Sweet dreams,
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Prema, praying for Vishal.

We made it home okay from N.Y. This morning's low was -17. Luckily we had a safe trip home.

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Belated birthday greetings to Davis and Stella. Single-digit figure birthdays...for the life of me, I cannot recall single-digit birthday party memories at all!!!! Theresa's huge (and probably over-the-top) birthday party is probably her way of working around Kelley's and Stella's hearts. She does not know what my two kawan-kawan have known from the very beginning...that the only way to a child's heart is to give time, love and togetherness to the child..

Kathy, I am really sorry about Rob's situation and all the time wasted which, as you rightly put it, could have been avoided - I only hope that you do not have to be the one helping Rob pick himself up again. That will be very hard. I am glad Pat that you did not suffer huge jams especially after I was told that New York suffered one of the coldest days at -15 deg.

My Vishal will most probably have surgery tomorrow. I will keep you both posted. I am a little nervous about the operation not because the surgery is complicated - but because of the GA and his vasovagal syncope. Will keep the prayers going...

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Kathy, I did not realize that either. Wishing Stella a happy day. We had 2 parties yesterday, with the big one next Sunday. I'm sure he doesn't mind. He was so much fun. When you asked him what kind of party he was having, he would say birthday. When you ask how old he is, the answer is two. They left for Columbus today around 2:30. I'm hoping they get home by 10:00.

It just stopped snowing. We've had about 10 inches in the past 2 days. Temps are so cold. Tonight will be -7, with wind chills in the -20's.

I'll be glad when this is over.

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Home from church. Stomach's a bit wonky and I'm hoping it passes before I'm expected at Stella's birthday party. It's cold here but not white!!

Guess I didn't realize Stella's and Davis' birthdays were just a day apart. Happy belated to Davis.

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Kathy, sorry to hear about Rob. Such a shame that he did not get told that he needed to sp speed it up. It's nice to have you back. Hugs

We made it to NY in about 8 hours. No new snow and only one 5 minute traffic jam. Tomorrow is Davis's birthday and because we won't be home, we had to cancel his birthday party. My sister is throwing him a small party for him and my daughter's friend is throwing a second one.
The temperature in currently 4 degrees. Quite cold, for sure.

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Please forgive my absence, my friends. Rob did not make it into the AF Reserves; at the 11th hour, he was informed that he needed to be accepted before he turned 39. You'd think one of the three recruiters he worked with over the past 6 months would have brought that up. They got all of the paperwork in to join the Air National Guard, only to not be able to access his dental report through the Air Force documents that should have been uploaded,encrypted, and available to the Guard. Guess the Good Lord wants something else for him.

Our dinner and birthday celebration for Rob, Stella, and Justin went very well. The water heater died sometime during the night. It had a 6-yr. warranty and has lasted since 2001. My brother orchestrated the removal and installation with his future son--in-law and his brother. I just stayed out of their way.

I'm tired but know I'll survive. Teresa always has a huge birthday party for Stella, and this year's no different. The party will be Sunday @ 11 a.m. I usually help set up but haven't heard if my hands will be needed.

Good to be back.

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Good morning. I can't sleep, so I thought I would get on Spark People for a few minutes before I shower.

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Speak to you when you come back, Pat.


Beeeeeeg Hugs, Prema

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Prema, thank you for the kind words. We are leaving tomorrow morning and returning on Monday.

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I understand, Pat.

I wish you a safe trip there and back. And may God continue to grant you the ability to stay positive through all life's continuous challenges and may others around appreciate your kindness without believing that they should take advantage of it for themselves.

Beeeeeeg Hugs, Prema

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Prema, I do not have closure, death has changed nothing. The reason for going is to help my mother and my brother and sister. My children know nothing of his transgressions, and I am going to help them too. He was nice to all in his older years, and my sister and myself are the only ones that know of this past and can't get over it . Even my youngest brother, who was treated like crap growing up is sad for the loss. I guess that is a part of forgiving that I can not accept. My kawan, you were not out of line asking the question, and I feel comfort talking with you.

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Pat... this may be totally out of line...and I apologize...but why do you need to go to this funeral again...is it worth all the trouble? Will you actually be getting emotional closure from attending the funeral?

I apologize my kawan if I am stepping out of line here...but I honestly believe he should be deprived of your presence at his funeral...because, right up to the end, he was not remorseful for the pain he caused you...and even God is putting obstacles in your way with the weather.

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Prema , he passed peacefully just about an hour ago. We won't know when the services will be until probably tomorrow. They think maybe Sunday. We will have to travel 7.5 hours, that would be in ideal conditions, but this time it may be about 10-12 hours. My sister lives in Alabama, is currently on jury duty and has an older car. Not sure if she will be able to make it unless they fly. That could be very expensive for 2 retired people plus my niece.

Kathy, missing you.

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Pat, I wish I knew what God has in mind for this man...Anyway, it's really bad in New York. The guy I am dealing with is working from home as he cannot get to work and when I call him, I can hear dogs and kids communicating with him at the same time as I am!!!

Kawan-kawan, my son's surgery has been postponed to next Tuesday/Wednesday. They have discovered that he has vasovagal syncope which means that he has episodes where he passes out - nothing more serious than that. In his case, they have to be a little more vigilant as his blood pressure drops to very low (70/40) and his pulse drops to an alarming 20 beats...but only for a 3 to 4 seconds....

Kathy, how are you doing? All okay, kawan?


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Prema, he survived dialysis and is being reviewed for heart surgery. Blood pressure meds have been reduced and he is holding his own. We will not have to travel to NY which is great because they are expecting 12-18 inches of snow through tomorrow.

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Pat, my prayers will be with you. Take care and may you continue to feel a sense of calm even as others continue to create chaos for you.

I will keep you and Kathy posted about my son's surgery and subsequent progress.

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Prema and Kathy, they will be taking my step-father off life support this morning. After I get the word on funeral arrangements, I will be traveling to NY. I'm not sure to what extent the funeral will be as burial will not take place until spring. There will probably be calling hours in the next few days.

Prema, if I don't make it here on Monday, I wish your son well with his surgery.

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Dearest Kathy, thank you for responding to us, especially when you must be totally exhausted. Between Nolan and Rob and handling the Saturday dinner, I will pray hard that you do not collapse, my kawan. I agree with you that kids imitate the behaviours that they see around them and I am as proud of you as I was with my dad for having a major impact on the lives of many children who would neither have known any better nor have experienced anything different in their lives.

Pat, I have been praying for you and for your continued strength and courage. I have been taking your journey one day at a time and hoping that no one burdens you further with requirements like funeral expenses, estate matters, hospital bills, etc etc. The only consolation we have is that we know you have the courage and strength of self to say "no more".

Hope the weekend brings better news for all of us.

Beeeeg Hugs,
Prema

PS My son's surgery is scheduled for Monday, 9th Feb at 2pm Malaysian time

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Kathy, make sure you get some rest, so that you don't end up sick again. I pray for your family to get better, especially little Nolan. Hugs

Prema, this morning he was given a zero chance of recovery. They said that if they took him off the breathing tube, that he would die in 10 minutes. I was asked to cover the cost of the funeral until life insurance gets paid. Knowing my family, they will pocket the money. I have always been the responsible one, the one that saves and worked hard for everything. Later today I got a call saying that he pulled out his breathing tube and was breathing on his own. He said he wanted to go home. Things can change so fast. I hope your son's surgery is quick and painless. Wishing him a speedy recovery.

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I had both kids on Tuesday because Kelley was sick and yesterday Nolan was sick and pretty much glued to me. Unless he was sleeping on me, he wasn't sleeping. His temperature shot up to 101.8 just after 4 pm, so I called Pat. When Kelley dropped off Stella this morning, she said Nolan had a rough night but was no longer running a fever. Pat was staying home with him this morning.

Justin came down last night; Rob had to stay in Lenexa to wait on the call from the AF, because he will have to be sworn in either today or tomorrow in order to avoid the cut-off that his 40th birthday will trigger.

I'm tired and with the family birthday dinner on Saturday, there's still much to do. Stella will get her nails done this afternoon and we can stop at the grocery store for the rest of what I need for Saturday.

Prema, I think that growing up I felt that some traits were a "given" in society; sadly, that isn't true, but it doesn't release me from my responsibility to do what's right . While teaching, I saw many children who had not a glimmer that the ways they treated others was wrong, which says a lot about how they were treated at home and the behaviors they observed in those around them. I know that some saw the world differently because of me, and that makes it all worthwhile.

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Pat, keep me posted. This is a tough situation and my heart, thoughts and prayers will be with you. My hugs and shoulders for you kawan....

Kathy, I know it's only a couple of days...but I am getting worried. All okay with you??

My son has torn a ligament (ACL) when he was playing futsal and will need to go for surgery in the next few days. Futsal is a Spanish version of indoor football and I have always maintained that it is a dangerous sport because of the hard court. We will have to see the specialist tomorrow and get a date for his surgery. In the mean time, he is stuck at home and is working from home...

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Prema, I know my girls think the world of their grandpa, and tarnishing their image of him serves no purpose. I do plan to talk to my doctor about it though. She is a good confident, and may be the person I need to talk to . I see her next Friday.

Kathy, missing you and I hope all is well with you and the family.

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Pat, I am in total sympathy with you and you know your children well enough to assess if they need to hear the truth from you. But children are more resilient than we give them credit for so if you ever decide to tell your girls about your darkest moment, they may want to spend more time working through the pain than worrying about an old fool who should be made to suffer a thousand-fold the pain he caused others.

I have learnt from my children as much as I have taught them...and the learning has not stopped till today.

Have a good one, my dear kawan.

Beeeeg Hugs, Prema

PS Kathy...I am praying that your silence does not mean that there's more bad news ahead on the horizon either for your pals or for Rob. Keeping fingers and toes crossed...hugs and hugs

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Prema, after 3 days, things do not look good yet, as he is still critical. His kidney functions are poor, at best and his bp is very low. I don't know if he will get back to where he was before he got sick, but we don't know yet if he will survive. The only two people that are not swooning over him are me and my sister. We have kept our kids out of the problems, as it serves them no purpose. At times I think that they think I am not able to show compassion, but I will spare them the details.

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Pat, truth and charity was the motto I grew up with in this missionary school as a student. It has stayed with me all these years because I always thought that this was easily done - and then with age, I discovered that this is very very rare amongst people. And after many years, I find two people who have made truth and charity their way of life.

Pat, there may not be love in the equation by your definition. But truly, he has more love showered upon him than he deserves as "I do not wish to see him suffer" - that is very very kind and thoughtful of you. And Kathy, you are no different...how blessed are your friends for the prayers you continuously pour into every living day for them.

Life has been admittedly kind to me. I have suffered a few setback, no doubt. But thanks to both of you, I have been able to assess just how much charity I need to show and to be totally truthful to myself...life is much better for me now....

Have a good Tuesday, my kwaan-kawan....

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Prema and Kathy, our storm fizzled out. We got about an inch of the heavy snow. It took me ah hour to shovel. I had 2 offers to help, but gracefully declined. We should have rain this afternoon changing to snow overnight. Yesterday I got a call from my SIL that my step father was in the hospital. He was having trouble breathing, he had pneumonia and an infection. He would not keep on the breathing mask and had to be sedated and a breathing tube inserted. He was moved to intensive care and his kidneys are failing. They put in a temporary pace maker and a balloon. The cardiac doctor did not want to do surgery until he gets stronger. He was on life support for a while and He did make it through the night. This is the same man I wrote about a few weeks ago when we were talking about Bill Cosby. even though there is no love there, I do not wish to see him suffer.

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Kathy, my kawan, there is a lot happening to your group and it's hard to know what to say. It's at times like these that I wonder how much more we can do and say except to give a hug to the person and I will be truthful to you...I have never ever been able to hold back my tears in situations like these. But like you, I have my doubts but I pray very hard for the courage to cast these aside and try and maintain my faith that God will help. But admittedly, you have a huge van load of stuff to pray for and so I will help with prayers from my end.

Hi Pat. Praying that no snow-related mishaps happen to you or your grandsons. I am now on a short vacation and I have failed...yet again...to follow your good example. I have just been reading, relaxing and resting. The E word has not featured this weekend...(exercise has been zero yesterday, today and possibly tomorrow!!).

Have a good Sunday, my kawan-kawan. Langkawi Island (where I am now with hubby and son) is a good place for a holiday and it's definitely on the list for both of you when you decide to have your vacation in Malaysia.

Kathy, hope you get your recliner fixed.

Beeeeeeeg Hugs, Prema

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Our snowfall has been downgraded to 3-5 inches starting tonight.

Kathy, enjoy your do nothing day.

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Lounging in my sweats....no specific plans for the day. It is currently raining but I'm not sure for how long.

Hope everyone's okay.

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Prema, a warm climate sounds nice to me. This Sunday we are expected to have about 6-12 inches of snow. I went grocery shopping this morning and am set for the bad weather. Most people will go out tonight or tomorrow. I'm glad I can go when the stores are not busy. A cashier even opened a lane for me so that I would not have to wait in a line with only one person in in it. The back streets were ice covered, but with the sun shining, I was able to get my driveway cleared.

Kathy, my heart goes out to you and your prayer group. It seems like when things go bad, they can get really bad. I pray for your friend Stacie that has only one year left to live. That is so sad. I wish that Pat starts feeling better soon.

Donovan got to play out in the snow today after school.

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Nails are done, and I made an appointment for Stella to get a manicure next Thursday. It's cool but there's no moisture--at least not yet.

Prema, the ice can be treacherous; the trick to walking on ice is to not lift your feet. At least it works sometimes.

Instead of sending just the power pack for my power rocker-recliner, the company sent several other parts. I just sent Rob a message that I'm waiting for him to "fix" my chair when he comes next week. I'm not sure--maybe they weren't sure that the power pack was truly the issue and didn't want to have to send more stuff later. Maybe I'll try the power pack to see if that takes care of the issue.; if not, it's up to Rob!!

My friend Stacie from my Thursday Bible study had surgery for a brain tumor. I may have mentioned her surgery last month. Anyway, we found out yesterday that the doctor said she probably has about a year to live. It's a small group: Lois had a double mastectomy about a year ago; Jennifer went into early labor and the baby didn't make it and a recent pregnancy has ended; Marcia had a mastectomy in August; Stacie's brain tumor; Yvonne's working two jobs because her husband can't convince himself that taking care of his family works in his favor. I am blessed--not a single thing to complain about!! It's hard to know why things happen the way they do; I trust that God is in charge and that He makes no mistakes!!

I hope to hear from Rob about his MEPS test this evening.

I'm so grateful you're both here. Enjoy your weekend.

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Hi Kathy. So Pat is down again and this time with stomach bug....it doesn't end for you, my kawan. And I hope your bronchitis does not decide to leave only when the cold weather leaves...this could take you all right through to the end of February, right? Nolan probably thinks he's grandma has him in an F1 stroller and the only missing items on him and his grandma are the racing gear and protective glasses!!! Good luck to Rob...hope he gets through his tests and his physical and makes it to the Air Force reserves...it may help him find a greater purpose in life.

Hi Pat. I did not realize how hazardous sidewalks can become during the winter season. Nolan fell twice and thank goodness he had you around to make sure he did not hurt himself too badly. I cannot imagine how the old and unfit people handle winter and it must be challenging for them to manage their errands. Thank goodness you and Kathy are nowhere close to that situation....when you get older, you can both move to Penang with me,

Have a good weekend my kawan-kawan. Beeeeeeg Hugs, Prema

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We had freezing rain this morning. It was a challenge to get to the bus stop. Donovan fell twice. I made him walk in the snow so that he had traction. The bus driver pulled up in a snowy spot so that the kids did not have to board on a slippery driveway. One parent helped them get on.

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It was another fine day here in Kansas, and Nolan and I went out for a walk again. He made me laugh with his white-knuckle grip on the sides of the stroller--like I was going fast!! The cool down starts tomorrow, with the possibility of snow on Saturday.

Pat has caught the stomach bug that Nolan and Kelley have been through, plus he also has developed a rash on his legs. My bronchitis is still clearing--it's been a while since I really felt the mucous was being eliminated.

Rob has a test tho take and a physical to pass and then it looks like he'll be taken into the Air Force Reserves. His test is on Friday, and I'm guessing his physical will take place early next week--since he turns 40 on the 8th, and that would make him ineligible.

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Prema, have a great dinner for your birthday. Maybe one day we can celebrate your birthday here in the states. Big hugs! Pat



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Kathy, we have a really good plot going here. We should Justin's mum and Kelley's mum in a room with Mother Theresa (when she was still alive) and I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall, eavesdropping in on the conversation and then reporting back to you....As for your Rob and my Dhivia, we will need to have 2 episodes on each of them...and the audience will still be left mystified!!

Pat, I seriously cannot imagine how one can entertain a child confined to the house. This one challenge will probably blow the minds of both Einstein and Stephen Hawking.

Thank you my dear kawan-kawan for the wishes. Having dinner with the family later and tomorrow I am off to Singapore for the day. And, before I sign off, I must give my biggest hugs today to my 2 lovely friends across the miles who always, always, always, bring a smile to my face and make my day....

Beeeeeeeg Hugs, Prema

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Prema, happy birthday a day early. By the time you read this, it will probably be your birthday. emoticon emoticon Enjoy your kettle bells. I'm sure that young man thought he was doing you a favor.

Kathy, I am so jealous of your nice warm temps. I would not venture out today with Davis with the high only 24 and the low of 9. Windchills even lower.

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Don't forget to include my son the artist who is attempting to get into the Air Force Reserves prior to his 40th birthday (arriving on Feb. 8). Without the support of his partner Justin, he would probably be living on the streets. Bless his heart, Justin (15 years Rob's junior) has been the strong one in that relationship. I seriously don't know what Rob would be doing without him. Justin's mom? There's a real study!!

Prema, you're probably headed to bed about now and will be waking to your birthday, so blessings, my dear friend, as we celebrate the gift you are to us and this world!🎉🎊🎂🎶😆 emoticon emoticon

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I knew I had very smart girlfriends...

The plot is getting better. Throw in some dysfunctional stuff as you suggested, Kathy, A daughter from one of the key actors with a loser boyfriend whom the other two are plotting to drive back and forth over him until he becomes part of the road. A daughter from another key actor who keeps attracting loser boyfriends and a son from one more actor who just cannot leave his mum's side ever. Then there is the m-i-l from hell who for more than 30 years still creates tsunamis in every household especially in that of the third actor who admittedly can run circles around the other 2 actors cos she is younger and does not have to use much energy as she only has imaginary grandkids!! Throw in one mad gassy dog (mine - he farts all the time like on old geezer!) and we have a show befitting prime time television!

My birthday is tomorrow (28th January) and my trainer gave me my presents today - a kettlebell weighing 10 kg and another weighing 12 kg. I had my mouth open in total utter shock and he could not believe that I was not over-joyed about the gifts. I have to forgive him...he is 29 years old only and part of his brain is still in his backside. It might all travel into his head by the time he is 35 years old...one can hope. Who in her right mind will ever get excited by kettlebells!!!!!

Pat, you have burnt off more calories than anyone did by shoveling snow for 1.5 hours. Please have a emoticon on me. Maybe two. I would have died at the 30-minute mark. So go figure, in real life, who will be running circles around whom?? Kathy, first it was the young man, then it was the young man's dad and now it's the young man's mum who has fallen ill and dear Superwoman to the rescue...so guess who will be the second person running rings around me!!!!

Have a good day my dear kawan-kawan.

Beeeeeeeeg Hugs, Prema

Hi JOAN860. Welcome. Good luck with the storm belt tomorrow!



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That was a fun post, I did laugh out loud! Very funny! Lucky weather you have there...we are in the snow storm belt! Can't wait to see what we have in store for us tomorrow. 20-30"



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Hit 74--Nolan and I went out for a walk.



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I'm reluctant to tell you that we're supposed to hit 67 degrees today. Nolan is asleep; Kelley is home sick. Pat called this morning to see if I could pick up Nolan; that was only a problem because school buses were out which means unplanned stops along the way.

I've got a spaghetti squash in the oven and some chicken thighs thawing in the refrigerator. I may try to fix a casserole for Pat to take home for their supper.

Have I mentioned Coach Belichick's latest news conference? I guess in his thoughts that the drop in atmospheric pressure was responsible for the deflated footballs, he failed to think that drop (if indeed it could cause the loss of pressure in the footballs) would also affect the footballs on the other side of the football field. I was pretty amused by the skit on SNL--morphed into a scene from "A Few Good Men" with an equipment manager doing the "You can't handle the truth!" and ultimately admitting that he did what he was ordered to do.

Have a good one.

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