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Hi MaryLynn:

Sorry for not talking to you earlier. Things have been a bit busy. I would like to thank you very much for the support for Flo's smoking problem. It is an extremely difficult habit to break and I sure she has the will power to do it.

I was never in Alabama. I guess the closest was New Oleans once and Jacksonville, Fa many times. I hope that Katrina didn't have too much of an effect on you. My sister-in-law is back making repairs to her house in Viro Beach, Fa for the 2nd time in 2 years. Although she has owed the house for around 35 years she never had any serious problems before. She's been flooded out twice now. Take care, and good luck with your weight loss.

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Don't know what else to say about your place except BREATH TAKING!!! Something to look at like that just makes you happy to look out side.
Hope all went well at the doctors and good work at the daughters. Our renovation really took a toll on us also and when we bought the rehab it came with a house next door too but this one will be alittle easier to fix cause it is only a 2 bedroom i bath. hahahaha I'm not in too big of a hurry to get into fixing that one up yet, think I'll enjoy the one we just finished first for a while hahahaha. I just won't look out the side window then I will forget it's there. Well, time for me to leave work so i will talk to you later, Flo YIPPIE!!!!I'm otta here



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Hi Flo:

Sorry, I was too tired last night to write. Got my meals input and the picture in but was having problems keeping my eyes open. So I went to bed early.

Yup, the new picture. Took it Monday or Tuesday morning, damn CRS again. This is what I see when I come out front, my driveway & house are on the right. It is not a mountain, but a hill topped at around 3,500 Ft. It has a small bit of snow still near the top. Good view out back too except they are building back there right now. Homes are modular or factory built. Not Mobile homes. A large crane sets them on prepared concrete foundations and then the roofing, garage, siding, interior and landscaping are all finished. Mine has 1330 Sq Ft with a double garage. It is in a 55+ gated community (keeps us in at night, hehehe). Very different really. We love it and are very happy here because there are so many old farts just like us. LOL.

We went up to my daughters very early yesterday morning. She lives in a two story, 3 bedroom row housing. She couldn't paint the stairway because it was too high for her. Lucky I got a 18 Ft telescoping pole and had it finished in a few hours. She still had two bedrooms to do, so I left my wife up there to give her a hand. I had a doctors appointment this morning and had to come back. She likes that kind of stuff and there is a fellow next door that can help with any heavy furniture. I'll probably go up and get her Friday or Saturday.

At one time I would have loved doing a full renovate as you did, but two years ago, even having this one built for us took its toll. Now I'm quite happy we did it, but when they come to take me out of here, I won't be in any condition to argue, nor will I be coming back. If you know what I mean, LOL.

Well, (deep subject, hehehe) going to close for now. Canada vs Germany Mens Hockey game is on right now. Ciao! Love the curling & hockey. Cheers for now.

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I am sorry about your husband Florence. War is a terrible thing. My husband was in the Vietnam war too. He worked in electronics on the airplanes. I worked for many years, but I don't now. I was taking care of my husband while he had cancer, and I just never went back to work after he died. Back to walking!!! TTYL
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Marylynn, Sorry about that I will put your name on my letters to you so you will know. Well I am glad you get to stay home. My husband finally started to get his disability and social security for post traumatic, took them long enough. He was a medic in Vietnam. I feel for the boys that are coming home now cause i hear alot of them are suffering from the same thing. Anyway, not that he is getting his benefits it will be easier for me to retire without a full pension cause we will be about equal to what we make with me working.



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Not sure if you were talking to me, but I stay home. My husband was retired from the Air Force, and when he died I got a pension from that.

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My mom didn't smoke either. She lived to be 73. Are you a stay at home mom? I still work but hope to retire in the near future!! Have a Great Day, I will talk to you later



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Hi Sandi, New picture!!!! Now i have some scenery to look at. hahahaha How's the painting going?? We rehabed the house we are living in now and had to gut the place it started out to be a 7 bedroom house but we made the rooms bigger so now it is a 4 bedroom house. Tons of work, took a year to complete and I had to paint all the rooms so I am burned out on painting for quite awhile so I don't envy you about having to paint. hahaha Well, I didn't work out last night again but for sure tonight. Just been too busy after work this week. Talk to you later, Flo



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2/15/06 4:39 P

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My Mother smoked and had a terrible cough all the time. So, when I was a child I decided never to smoke. It was a good decision!

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You are so lucky to not have ever smoked. At the rate you are going you will have no problem when you get to your goal weight. Keep up the good work!!
Tell the neighbors to get out and walk with you hahahah
Have Fun!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks. I have never smoked, but I am trying to lose weight. I hope my son is able to quit though.
Well, back to walking!!! I think my neighbors are used to seeing me walk every day!!!

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thanks for the support. Good luck to your son too on trying to quit also. Thanks!!!!!



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Don't give up on trying to quit, because it is really worth it. Best of luck to you on that My son is trying to quit also. I know it is hard.

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Lucky you with the weather, I live in Northwest Indiana and our weather is about 30. Suppose to get down to the teens and single digit at night on Fri and Sat. YUCK!!! We had a good winter so i can't complain too much.
So Sorry about your husband. My dad died of lung cancer too (25 years ago). I am trying to quit but have a hard time in the evenings and weekends cause my husband smokes. It is a horrible habit and really hard to kick but I will keep trying



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Speaking of walking, we are having a beautiful day here today. It is 60 or 65 degrees outside.
By the way, I am a widow and my husband died of lung cancer. I would encourage any of you on the board to quit smoking. I hated the second hand smoke in the house. Now, I don't let anyone smoke in the house anymore.

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Wow you do a good amount of walking. When the weather is good i walk for 1 hour around the lake with the dog. But when the weather is bad i do the treadmill for 30 minutes and try to squeeze in a 30 minute workout video. Been slacking a little on the video hahaha My husband had the heel spurs and got the shot too. I never had one but from what he said it was really painful and the shot really helped.



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I try to walk 90 minutes a day, but I do it 30 minutes or less at a time.I have a terrible time losing weight if I don't walk, plus I think it has other health benefits. A while back I had a painful heel spur, but I finally went to the foot Dr, and he gave me a shot of cortisone in my heel. Worked wonders for me!

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Hi Marylynn, Happy Valentines to you too. You are doing great on the weight loss 11 lbs FANTASTIC!!!
How long do you walk?? Keep up the good work. Talk to you later, Flo



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Hi Sandi,
I am so jealous of your scenery!!! hahaha Me and the hubby tried to think of a beautiful sight around here we didn't come up with anything hahahaha
Your place definetly is the perfect retirement spot!!! Sounds so beautiful and the fishing, exellent. We have a river in the back of the house but no luck with the fishing yet. Eagles, cool, Bears scary!!!
My end of the audit went great so i must be doing something right hahaha
2 of the auditors are going to tell my boss that i am a valuble asset to the company hahaha I want to retire, they should ask them if i could get a package!!!!! hahaha
Well have fun painting and hope the daughter is doing better. Lost 1 more lb but didn't work out last night. Keep up the good work on your diet and exercise. I will talk to you later, Flo



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2/14/06 8:04 P

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Happy Valentine's Day to all. I know what you mean about reading the scale. I have to either put on my contacts or glasses to see mine. I am having nice progress, and have lost 11 pounds so far. I walk every single day (unless it rains). I live in Alabama, so no severe weather.

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Hi Flo:

Happy Valentines Day to you too. That sounds like the type of scale I need, something digital with big numbers, LOL.

It is beautiful here, and I fell in love with the area when we were first stationed at an airbase in Comox, about an hour north west of here. I could go skiing, golfing and salmon fishing on the same day. Skiing was limited to about 4 months during the winter though, and except for the occasional snow fall, golfing was year round. If the salmon weren't running we would go for red snappers, halibut, or ling cod. All great eating. The picture I posted is of me and my motor home, and is next to an Old Growth Cedar in Goldstream Park about 10 minutes from where I lived in Victoria. When the salmon spawned there in the fall, hundreds of eagles and an occasional bear would show up to clean up the remains. Along the highway in an area called the Mallahat, there are some exceptional views. And we find that although we're on an island, it is large enough that we don't feel isolated.

The only audits I was ever involved in were called ORIs, or Operational Readiness Inspections. A necessary evil that we all hated and I was involved in all levels; as an aircrew member at the squadron and on board ship, as an operations and standards officer at the both the squadron & base levels, and as a standards and readiness officer at both the Group and Command levels. A big head ache and a lot of paper work. Well, have fun with your audits. I don't envy you.

If I'm off line for awhile don't worry. I may have to go up to my daughter's to give her a hand with some painting. She is a single mother living in Military Housing in Comox and is still having some problems from an emergency hysterectomy they did last fall. She is back to work now, but is still on limited dutys.

Gotta go now. Take care Flo and stick with it.

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Hi Sandi, I got a new scale that reads out loud and clear in big numbers if I gained or lost. For some reason it looks like the numbers get really big if I gained. hahahaha
Happy Valentine's Day!!!!
I'm telling you where you live and the ferry trip and the mountains it makes Indiana look really really boring. hahahaha
Those Nanaimo Bars sound so good. I would have to settle for being a big fat lady if I had access to those bars. hahahaha
Today at work we have audits all week. Fun Fun!!!
I believe all my stuff is in order. If not I wanted an early retirement anyway. hahaha
Well, I will sign off for now and talk to you later, Have a Great Day!!!! Flo



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Hi Flo:

I really need to get a new pair of glasses. The increments on my scale are so hard to read that I couldn't tell if I had gained or lost anything. I tried a magnifying glass and then finally called my wife to make the determination. Yahoo!!! Lost a whole pound. Not much but still moving in the right direction. LOL. My wife says that I've been in steady decline for years. But I only started my diet after the New Year. I wonder what she means?? Hehehe.

Staying busy is good and when you can have fun doing it, that's a real plus. I must go into our garage and do some work too. LOL, maybe next week, or after the winter olympics. Procrastination takes planning, ROFL.

It was a really gorgeous weekend. The ferry trip over to Vancouver is about 40 miles and takes 2 1/2 hours. A bit cool on deck, but smooth and the weather was sunny bright. The mountains with their snowy white peaks were majestic. The trip back was a bit cloudy with sunny breaks. We normally walk on and they pick us up on the other side. One of the perks to being a senior is I don't pay during weekdays. (LOL it is only $10. If we take the car it cost another $60 each way) My brother-in-law is a great cook, but has a bad habit of always using large plates. Saturday night was pub night and I love beer with finger food. It was my reward to myself for getting this far.

As for Nanaimo, have you never heard of Nanaimo Bars?? Many claim that they started here during the mid 1930's during the coal mining days. They have a base of crushed Graham Crackers, coconut, walnuts & chocolate, a filling of vanilla pudding or custard, and covered or glazed over with chocolate. Mmmmmmmmmm. There are lots of recipes on the net but as you can imagine, high in cals, heheheh.

I have been close to where you live. The first time I was posted to the west coast, we stopped to visit family in Toronto and then crossed into the US at Windsor/Detroit. I'm sure we stayed overnight at South Bend, then onto St.Paul the next day before heading north to Winnipeg. Having had the opportunity to travel a lot, I found that there is beauty everywhere. Sometime we are over familiar with the area and don't see it or appreciate it. I can't recall your specific area but I'm sure it has its beauty too. The first time I went across the prairies I was amazed at how flat and how straight the roads were. You could see about 20 miles in all directions and it always amazed me how they could ever have accidents at intersections. LOL. Just not paying attention I guess.

Don't worry about the smoking Flo. You're trying and each day you will get stronger. The urges and intensity will decrease slowly and inevitably you will win. I know that you will look back on this and you will be amazed at how strong willed you really are. You are the one that is in control of your destiny, not the nicotine. Stay with it and believe in yourself. LOL, The voice of experience has spoken. Hehehe.

Cheers for now. Got to go and ride that one wheeled monster, then clean up about 40+ emails that are waiting. Retirement is no fun. Damn it, no time off or time & half pay for overtime, no stat holidays, etc. LOL. Take care. will talk later.

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Hi Sandi, Sounds like you had a great time this weekend. When you are out having fun you are allowed to screw up on the diet. hahahaha
The nitemares on the patch are true. I never used to dream at all and now look out!!! hahaha Sometimes I don't wear the patch to bed because of it. I would wake up wondering if it was true or not. hahahaha. Wierd. Well, I'm sure you will be back on track with your exercise and diet routine. My weekend was good. Me and the hubby did alot of garage cleaning. Looks nice and neat!! Then we had a few drinks to take care of the sore muscles and relaxed for the rest of the weekend hahaha I will talk to you later, Have a Great Day!!!!! Flo



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Hi Joanne, When you think about it smoking is a terrible habit but really hard to stop. The patch helps with the cravings but sometimes it doesn't. I think my problem is I liked smoking but I know it isn't good for me so that is why I am quitting. All I can do is keep trying. Thank's for the words of encouragement!!!! I will talk to you later, Flo Have a Great Day!!!



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I think the patch is OK - agree with you there. The dosage on it is controlled, and you step down. This person I know got off the gum/lozenges by stepping down with the patch until she no longer needed it. She said she used the store brand and was able to save some money on it. And, you're right, even that can be dangerous if the person tries to smoke while wearing it, I'd heard of stories like the one you mentioned. So, use these things to help you but just be aware and be careful. Just know that YOU CAN DO IT!

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Hi Flo:

Just got back awhile ago and I'm kinda tired. We had a busy time, the diet went out the window and other than pushing a shopping cart around some malls, I didn't get my cardio exercises in. Will see in the morning how I faired. LOL, I'm not expecting any miracles.

I hope you had a good weekend.

The comments regarding addiction problems with the nicotine gum and lozenges by Joanne is very true. However, if the instructions are followed a person should never get into those problems. Common sense should prevail and if in doubt, ask! I would never recommend the gum or lozenges anyways because they are too much like smoking cigarettes with the level of nicotine rising and falling as you use the replacement. Also something I failed to mention is you should not smoke while using the patch because it is considered over medicating. My last doctor told me about one of his patients that he perscibed the patch for, who used 2 patches because he was a heavy smoker and thought he would feel better. However, he continued to smoke while waring the patches which caused arithmia and resulted in him having a near fatal heart attack. Another thing that I just remembered was the wild nightmares I had while I was on the patch. Extremely weird and yet so realistic.

I'm going to close for now and I'll try and catch up tomorrow. Hehehe. Just take care. And remember, everything is OK as long as it is in moderation. Darn! LOL.

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Thanks for the heads up on the replacement meds. I kind of wondered if i would still be able to quit if i stop using the patch.



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To everyone who's quitting smoking: just be VERY CAREFUL with the gum and lozenges. I have a relative who was hooked on the nicotine replacement meds for YEARS. It's stronger than cigarettes, and really gets people hooked. A doctor told me that peoples' lives are being ruined by these things, and there's no warning label on them! I let everyone know about this, whenever I hear of someone trying to quit cigarettes. Plus, they are very expensive. Use if you must, but be very very careful.

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Hi Sandi,
That is so funny about what you said about giving Jim the 1st degree, that is where i want to kick myself in the butt for doing that cause he's trying not to let me know he is going so i don't smoke one but by me giving him he 1st degree he has to tell me and yes i do go with him to have my couple of hits. hahahaha We definetly share a cig in the garage. hahaha But all kidding aside even if we cheat we are not smoking like we used to maybe 2 a day for him and with a couple hits here and there i probably smoke 1 or 2 a day. Thanks for your support and ideas!!!
OH MY GOD!! I just looked up on the internet where you live, it is so beautiful, the senery is so nice. I never heard of your town before but how great to retire there.
You should see Indiana!!!! We have no senery what so ever hahahaha REALLY DEPRESSING
I went to Toronto before in the 70's my hippie days hahaha
If you came back to snow for 1 day you will be happy to go home and not feel depressed anymore.
Sounds like you got a good workout in, I have to worry about high blood pressure. I take meds for high. Is low pressure as bad as high?
With the sound of how you take care of yourself you have a long way to go maybe 50 more years. Yippie!!
Well, you and the wife have a great weekend and I will talk to you later, Flo



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Hi Flo:

Thanks for your comment regarding my wording. After 33 years of dry, bland, military style writing, messages, operation orders, engineering orders, etc., it is fun to try and be humorous. It sounds like your hubby is having problems with his habit and is trying to avoid being a problem with your attempts. I would say that if you know he is trying to sneak a cigarette, let him go and don't give him the 1st degree. If you really need one and want to join him, ask him if he would like company. I can't believe I said that, but I do think when both partners are trying to quit it is best to share things, thoughts, ideas, etc. Maybe even sharing a butt in the garage.

It was another great sunny and warm day, 55F. I live in Nanaimo, a small city on Vancouver Island. Being near the Pacific Ocean, we are influenced by the warm Japanese ocean currents and Hawaiian air currents. That normally results in a lot of rain with the odd snowfall during the winter. I was born and raised in Toronto so I know what your winters are like. And after 26 years of living on the east coast and hating the winters, we decided to retire out here. Much more moderate, except it does get depressing at times. But hey, you don't have to shovel it.

Overdid my cardio exercise a bit today. When I checked my Blood Pressure it was lower than normal. I have to watch it closely because of some of the meds I'm on, so I use a Heart Rate Monitor to check my pulse rate while exercising. I've set my Target Pulse Rate at 90-100 and I haven't exceeded it. I've got an appointment with a cardioligist for a stress test in mid March, so I should know more then. The doctor that did the heart bypass gave me a 20 year warranty so I've got another 15 years, hehehe.

My wife wants to go over to Vancouver tomorrow and visit her brother so I'm not expecting to be back until Sunday night. Hang in there Flo. I think your doing great. There is always bumps in the road and nothing ever runs the way we hope. But little by little we get there. Stay flexible and Keep It Simple. Take Care.

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You are very funny, I like the way you word things. hahaha. My husband does smoke in the garage. But I forget about what he is doing except I have to keep asking " Where are you going? Why are you going in the garage"? (he tries to go without me noticing he is going for a cigarette then here I go with all the questions till he has to tell me he is going for a cigarette) DAAHH!!!! And you wonder why I am having a hard time.hahaha
You are doing really good with the exercise, Keep up the good work. Last night I did 30 min. on the treadmill and 25 min. core workout video.
Sounds like you had some great weather too. It snowed here and is really cold. When I came to work today it was 17 degrees. Suppose to be 34 today. Can't really complain though because we have had a really mild winter. Sounds like you are having a good winter too. Well I will sign off for now and talk to you later, Flo



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LOL: Thanks for your thought Flo, but I have enough trouble trying to counsel myself. I don't think I would have the temperment or disposition. "Damn the Torpedoes; Full speed ahead." Keep at it, don't stop trying and one day you will find that you have beat the habit. It can be real hard when your mate is also a smoker, but it can also be easier if you support each other. Warning though, leave all weapons outside!!! Hehehe. When I quit I was the biggest grouch on the street, and almost anything could trigger an outburst.

The reason I brought up the morbid stuff is because smoking is a major factor that causes hardening of the arteries. Diet is another major factor which normally involves high fats and cholesterol that sticks to the artery lining. They seem to work together, and in addition to heart problems, are also mainly responsible for strokes.

I know what you mean about doctors anti-smoking speeches. I sat through 15 minutes of verbal abuse one day and when he finished I sort of chuckled and suggested that if he was trying to scare me, he should come up in the Sea King for some night deck landings off the back of a destroyer. He smiled and declined, and said that it takes a real brave but a very stupid person to face heart disease and lung cancer. Damn, I didn't scare him, but he really did get to me.

My dad was a smoker but my mom wasn't. I started when I was 14 years. I blame myself for my wife, my daughter and my son for taking up the habit. My grandaughter is 9 and I was hoping my daughter would quit before she gets much older. It seems that kids will follow their parents examples. I will pass on your congratulations to my daughter. Thank you.

Well I did good today. Got up to 45 minutes on the stationary bike, good sweat, good burn in the legs and was able to get up into my target pulse range. I felt really great afterwards. And it was a beautiful sunny day to boot, warm around 50F. I'm hoping that in another 3-4 weeks the worst of the rainy part of our winter will end and I can get my mountain bike out and go for some real biking. I may not be able to walk because of back but my legs can still get me around on a bike.

Well gotta go now. Will talk to you later. Hang in there. Bit by bit you're getting there. Take care.

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Hi Sandi, Wow you would make a great stop smoking counsler!! My husband quit like about a week or 2 after me but went back but to only maybe 4 a day. He only takes about 2 hits off a cig and then puts it out. I am doing the patch, I took the 21mg so far and today I put on a 14. I take it off if I feel I am going to take a hit. I am trying not to do that so I think I did pretty good yesterday. Maybe 4 hits all night. I am going to keep trying. All of your suggestions are great on things to do to replace. I am already trying some of them.
Wow 3 packs a day is alot. I think I was 1 1/2 to 2.
That is a scary thing with the fuel in the helicopter. I am sorry you had to have the bypass and the heart attack. I bet you feel better after having the bypass. A guy at my work just had one of those and he said he feels better then he did before he had it. It is scary though because he wasn't a smoker either. My mom wasn't a smoker but she died of a heart attack at 73. My dad too had a heart attack probably in his 50's but then got lung cancer and died at the age of 64, he was a smoker. You would think that would make me quit (dumb). But I guess at least I am trying, I just need to do better. Well, at least I didn't gain any weight and still have the 2 lb weight loss since I started.
You are not a bad exsmoker the way you talk, you should hear my doctor he suggested to cut my hands off and duct tape my mouth, he said "do you think that would help you quit" Talk about morbid!!!hahaha Congradulations to your daughter also for quitting. I thought about doing what she is doing but I am not sure if I would be strong enough to open the pack of cigs. I did hear that before about the heroin being easier to quit then cigs. That is wierd.
Well, I made myself do at least 40 minutes of exercise last night so I do feel alittle better today then I did yesterday so that's a good thing!!
Thank You for taking so much of your time to talk to me and give me so much support. I will talk to you later, Have a great day, Flo

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Hi Flo:

Don't get down on yourself for having problems with the smoking. It is a big and difficult change. Having been through it I can appreciate what you're going through. Many claim, and I've had it confirmed by heroin addicts that have broken their habits, that breaking the nicotine addiction is even harder. Does your hubbie smoke?? Are you trying to quit cold turkey? Have you tried the nicotine gum? (I hate that stuff.) How about the transdermal nicotine patches? They sure helped me. I guess there is also a pill out now but I've never tried it so I can't comment on it.

When you smoke, the lungs get a transfer of the nicotine directly into the blood stream and it is almost immediate. The level of nicotine in the body increases until you butt out the cigarette. The level then decreases gradually and 30-45 minutes later the body craves another fix. With the transdermal patch, the nicotine is taken into the blood stream through the skin very slowly. And it will last continuously over 24 hours (almost 30-36 hours in fact). However, because the nicotine is being continously ingested, there is no high or low levels and as a consequence no cravings for another fix. The patches come in 3 levels: 21mg, 14mg and 7mg. I only ever used the 21 & 14 mg patches and I think it was over a 6 or 8 week period. CRS hehehe.

After you come off the patches, it becomes a mind over urges/cravings. You got to have some means to outthink the cravings. Some simple things are, drink a glass of water (heard that one before), deep breathing, go for a walk, change what you are doing. The cravings only last for a few minutes if you can get your mind thinking of something else. Some things you have to put in place are getting rid of ash trays in the house, cleaning up the house & car, using air fresheners, and for awhile staying away from pubs, restaurants and friends that smoke. Convincing yourself that you can do it is very important too.

I was a heavy smoker, 3 packs a day. I still feel that most of them burnt up in the ash tray. I was always stressed out & always had a butt in my mouth. I remember taking off in a Sea King helicopter and going through our airborne checks when my sonar operator knocked the cigarette out of my mouth. He pointed up & I had jet fuel pissing down on me. If I had lit the lighter we would have all been toasty critters. In January 1988 I had a mild heart attack. I was grounded and never able to fly operational again. I was almost kicked out of the military, but I had great senior officer argue on my behalf and he was able keep me in because of my experience. However, I continued to smoke.

It was in September 2001 that I finally quit and it was in December 2002 that I had my open-heart quad bypass. I had somewhere between 70-80% of the main artery blocked. It was estimated I had about 3 months before a massive heart attack. I came through it OK but 8 months later, a very good buddy went in for the same thing and didn't survive. I blame all my health problems on smoking. My buddy never smoked, but he was about 50 Lbs overweight. So who can say??

LOL, sorry for being so morbid. They say that ex-smokers are the worst ones to talk about quiting smoking. I now believe that of myself. My daughter just quit 5 months ago. She keeps a pack on top of her fridge in plain sight, but won't touch it. She says as long as it is there she knows she will never run out. I could never do that. I would have to smoke all the cigarettes in the pack and then make sure nothing else remained in the house. So we're all different and as individuals we have to think for ourselves. I still feel the most important thing about quitting is believing in yourself that you can do it. It then becomes a mind over matter battle. Nothing is impossible if you want it enough and are willing to fight for it.

I appologise for being so verbose. But, I hope that some of what I've said may help you. Keep trying and don't give up. One day all of a sudden you will do it and when you look back, you will be surprised at how strong willed you really are. By all means, reward yourself then with something special and go out to celebrate.

I'm going to stop now before I start repeating myself. LOL. Sorry no Spark Points. Hehehe

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Hi Sandi, My husband thanks you for the kind words. 33 years is along time to be at any job. hahaha I know when I retire I will miss some of the people but not the job that's for sure!!!! hahaha
I still have problems on the weekend and the evenings with the smoking, but I keep working on trying to get back on track. The diet seems to be doing ok. Today I feel discouraged cause the weight just seems like it doesn't want to come off fast enough. You know we have those days where you think it is going to be impossible.
Congratulations on your 2 lb. weight loss. I am happy for you!!!!
Well, I will talk to you later, Flo



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Hi Flo:

First let me take this opportunity to salute your hubby. I've the deepest respect for those that served and for those that are now serving in hot zones. I can appreciate the effects it has had on families and loved ones. I never got the opportunity, just lucky I guess.

A lot of my flying off the aircraft carrier and from the back end of destroyers was interesting, but scary. We used to say that our job entailed hours of shear boredom interspersted with moments of shear terror. The flying was OK, it was the take offs and landings that were the worst. Even though I spent 33 years in the military, since retiring, I haven't missed the job, just the people.

Reading between the lines, I get the sense you're back on line with the smoking, dieting and exercising. Good for you. Stick with it. It is the change in lifestyle which is difficult. But it is a healthy change and for the better. Progress will be slow, but not as long as it took for you to get here.

I dropped another 2 lbs last week, but I expect to plateau soon. I've increased my calorie intake a bit, but I also increased my cardio now to 42 mins on the exercise bike. I'm hoping to confuse my metabolism and maybe the weight will continue to come off. My worry is that I'll confuse myself and I'll forget what I'm supposed to be doing. CRS again, LOL. Actually I'm feeling real good these days.

Well gotta go now Flo. Take care and good luck.

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Hey Sandi, Well, our meetings are on speaker phone on mute and the powerpoint is on one screen so it's pretty much a look and listen meeting. Or exercise look and listen, hahaha.
First off thank you for being in the Military to protect all of us if the time came up.
My husband is a disabled Vietnam Veteran (Medic). He gets a full disability because he has post-tramatic disorder. So if I do decide to retire any time soon at least we would still have medical from the VA. He does good some of the time, and he is a good man. He gets into his Harleys and tinkers around with them. Other then that life is good.
Looks like I lost 2 lbs over the weekend YEAH!!!
Well, I am going to sign off for now. Have a Great Day!! I also suffer from CRS too. hahaha



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HeHeHe: That's what is called true multi-tasking. ROFL. It conjures up some funny visions with on-line speech. I do hope you were able to control the optical camera and had a press-to-talk microphone. Good for you.

Retirement requires long range planning. I was lucky to choose a career in the military that came with a government pension that included medical benefits. I continued to work part time after I left the military until I wasn't physically able because of my back. However, I'm am still able to get around and use a bike for exercise. At least with the computer I am able to keep mentally active. I've always lived on a razors edge and been lucky enough to have a wife that still loves me and keeps me in line. Other than suffering from that seniors affliction, CRS (Can't Remember Stuff) I feel real great and life is good.

Well, gotta go and do some "Push it up...Push it up, Way up...." exercises. LOL. Take care.

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Hello, I have 2 computer screens at work so while i was net meeting on one i put in an exercise tape in the other and did a 35 minute workout during my meeting hahaha. Are you retired or still working? Never mind I just looked at your profile. I hope I can retire in the near future, I am working on it. Later, Flo

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Hey, it sounds great. Keep it up. I fight the urge to check my weight and only do it once a week. It feels so good when I see positive results that I reward myself. I normally have a couple of beers that evening while staying within my calorie guidelines. Remember, everything is OK in moderation, so go slow and build up to your fitness. You don't want to injure yourself because that will probably mean a set back.

Take care. Damn those meetings.

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Hi, How is everything going? Well, I got 25 minutes with treadmill holding 1 lb weights, doing some arm exercises while walking. Also a 25 minute core video. I got on the scale this am and looks like I lost 1 1/2 lbs. YAHOO!!!!! Thank you so much for the support. I will talk to you later, I have meetings from 8am to 11:30 am. today, Boring. Later, Flo



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Wow, Thanks so much for the words of encouragement. All at spark people are so helpful. I been with spark since Jan 9th and stopped smoking Jan 2nd. But like I said I cheated a couple times for about the last week. I am really going to work harder at it. Also I can say so far I lost 1 1/2 lbs. YAHOO!!!!
I have tried to watch what I eat so I don't gain any weight while not smoking. So, thanks again. Floemoticon



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keep trying. I would even sneak to my garage and sneak smoke. A grown woman!! But I kept trying and after a lot of lapses I finally made it. It has been 13 years and I am over the craving. It was the hardest thing I ever did.

Through God all things are possible and that is so true. I know that I can't do this alone but with God I will succeed.


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Hi Florence:

More power to you. I've quit 3 times. I was a heavy smoker averaging 60+ cigarettes a day. The 1st time I quit was for a year on a bet. 2nd time was for 2 years, but I went back after going through a lengthy high stress situation. This last time it has been 5 years now. If at all possible, please try to really quit. By cheating you are only fooling yourself, and you're setting yourself up for a relapse. Letting into the urges are too easy if you cheat. You can do it. Set your mind to being positive. Write down all the pros and cons and paste the list on the fridge so you can look at it whenever you get an urge. Also try deep breathing and having a glass of water when you get an urge. As for loosing weight, dieting, exercising, it's the same as quitting smoking. All it takes is a positive attitude and effort. Look inside yourself and you would be amazed at how strong you can be.

I hope this helps, and if you need any more assistance, just holler. I will be honest with you though, be aware that by quiting smoking you are changing your metabolism and very likely to gain weight for a short time. This happened to me each time I quit. However, when your body senses that you are no longer ingesting nicotine and the other chemicals, your weight will start to come down, and you will really start to feel good.

Good luck. I know you can do it.

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That cheating can get us in trouble, ha

Wish you success in this new year.
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I am 69 years old, in 2014: Live in Vancouver, WA area. I am working on Balance and Strength Training. Working at getting back under 150 pounds. Working on improving my health one day at a time.


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Same here. I won't even try one. And, yes, my lungs feel so much better. Jonnieemoticon

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Stopping smoking was so hard it keeps me from ever having even 'one'!! It's been 21 years! It will make exercise easier to not smoke--but when I quit I started on my weight gain--- Of course if I had known to exercise and eat right, I probably could have avoided that!

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Keep at trying to quit smoking. I tried 4 times before I could quit "for good". That was 18 years ago.emoticon

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I am 51, need to lose at least 45 pounds, hopefully by summer. Also quit smoking but cheat once in awhile.



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