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No, I respect other people's religion and they respect mine!!!!

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No. I was raised in the church and I still go to church. I have friends that are Christian, Catholic, Jewish, and several friends that are Atheist. I don't mind telling people what I believe, but I also make a point of letting them know that I'm not going to debate anything. For me, I like to know what others believe and to have a better understanding of what they believe and how it is similar or different from what I believe. The friends that I have that are atheist know that I believe in God and have no problems with it and I have no problems with them not believing in God. They have posted questions on Facebook asking questions of their Christian friends, out of curiosity. I'd respond. I come from a family that believes that what you believe is your business and that it is a personal thing.

I have, on occasion, gotten a bit irritated with some people because of their views that seem to stem from religion (i.e., that women shouldn't be in a position of power - like being president of a country, that women should stay at home and raise the children even if she wants to work). I can't explain how that relates to religion but the individual is a part of the Church of God. I'm Methodist.



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Yes, I lost all of my "church friends" when I decided I was no longer going to be a member. We were more than Sunday friends, we hung out, had kids over, had dinner, kids in the same school etc. Once I was not part of the church community, I ceased to exist.

It wasn't even my fault - the pastor said if we didn't believe x was a sin we could just walk up and leave. So I gathered the kids and left.

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Yes, in a local home school group I was in about 10 years ago. Two of the women in the group were very put off by my paganism when they found out. Both were friendly and talkative with me until they learned my beliefs. Then they both turned a cold shoulder. Most of the group had a more liberal, spiritually open nature about them and didn't mind so I didn't end up being squeezed out. Those two in question ended up choosing to leave even though I tried to continue to be friendly.

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Never -- i respect my friends' beliefs.



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Never. My entire family are humanists/heathens, as are most of my friends. Religions cause wars.

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Yes. People need to keep their religious ideas to themselves. Especially if they have not verified my permission from me.

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Malala Yousafzai?

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The IRA?! 911 Anyone? Bring Back Our Girls?

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My family and I can talk about anything even if we have different opinions. With some people i avoid talking about religion or politics.



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I have never been treated better or worse for my religious beliefs nor I have treated anyone better or worse for their beliefs. I was raised that religion is a deeply personal choice and we should respect others choices.

@EMSR2D2,

Thank goodness you had those books displayed. The guy sounds like a complete hypocrite.

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I have nothing to do with religion, so I never discuss it with anyone.



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No, not really. I am atheist. Most people around here are believers in some form of Christianity, but it's worked out okay so far.



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Thanks Mandie :) This is the ONE truly negative thing I can't seem to let go of. What makes this so unbelievable to me is these are college educated people. My father's mother, my grandma is still alive and very with it even though she's going to be 106 very soon. She thinks my husband is wonderful and I love her dearly for that support. Even if the aunt and cousin apologized I don't think anything would ever, could ever be the same. That makes me sad and angry at the same time. But life goes on and I need to let go.



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I haven't experienced that and would never exclude anyone based on race, religion or personal beliefs. Tolerance is something I expect, therefore, I need to practice that with others. I may not agree with other's points of view but it doesn't mean I can't listen to what they have to say. An open mind can always learn.

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That is very sad, JEEP8294. Some of my family doesn't share my belief. I couldn't imagine cutting them out of my life. If you were my family, you and your husband would be welcomed at holiday celebrations with open arms.

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Religion coming between people is the major reason why I'm totally against organized religion. The one thing adherants of all religions SHOULD agree on is to keep their spiritual beliefs to themselves and let others have their own. I find it disgusting how anyone can claim themselves to be spiritual - be it Christian or whatever - and then not allow a family member's spouse into the house because of religion (as "JEEP8294" mentioned). Wow.

Judgmental religious types share one thing in common: They don't even understand the very tenets of their own religion.



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Yes it has come between me and my father's side of the family. I am a Christian woman married to a Muslim man. My Uncle's bigot wife decided that my husband wasn't welcome in her home for holidays because they aren't HIS holidays to celebrate. I disowned her and her daughter and SIL right then and there. I haven't spoken to them in almost 7 yrs. I always say if my father was still alive none of this would be taking place. My husband like to refer to that aunt as "Basla" which means onion in Moroccan darija. Suits her just right.



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Religion has never come between me and anyone!

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The saying comes to mind "you can please some of the people some of the time but you cant please all of the people all of the time" ( I hope I quoted it correctly)

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I was brought up harsh old school Catholic. I quit when I was 18 and that action was reconfirmed twice in the last two years that I did the right thing for me.

If I voice that I no longer believe in organized religion, it would provide a rift in the family. I am already told that I know nothing of God because I do not go to a man made church. Some members of my family (not immediate) do not go to Church and that has caused acidic comments from the same person. So, I guess you could say not exactly a rift, but bad feelings and major tension.

Edited by: FEDGIRL4 at: 5/20/2014 (10:32)
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Interesting thread topic. Religion has definitely come between me and some of my extended family. I have a sister in law who is a fundamentalist Christian, and when I converted to Catholicism some years ago, she became quite distant. She never really brought the subject up, but prior to that, we had been pretty close, so it was obvious why she could barely bring herself to speak to me anymore. These days, family get togethers with her are fairly tense--I stay in one room, she stays in another, and if we're all out to dinner somewhere, she sits at one end of the table while I'm down at the other end. Her husband will still speak to me, but only if I say something first, and he's very begrudging with his replies (he's very into the patriarchy movement and doesn't approve of 'non-submissive' women). Luckily, they don't live nearby, so get-togethers are only a few times a year.

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I am a Christian, and part of being a Christian is loving the people in your life, regardless of their actions or beliefs. I couldn't abandon my parents because they don't go to church, and indulge drugs and alcohol. That would violate the basis of Christianity.
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I would never allow that. my family and friends know I'm a christian.


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my mother and sister have a problem that I am not christian which is sad but that's their problem.



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My bff since junior high and I are opposites!
One very right wing and religious. One an unsure leftie.
We just do not talk religion or politics!
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I don't allow religion to come between my friends and family. And I have some family members that don't share my Christian faith. They are still my family.

We don't have a lot in common though. We don't really have the same interests, but I would never exclude them.

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I'm pretty sure I would be disowned from both sides of my family if they ever found out I gave up on Christianity.
And that I now practice witchcraft.
.... And that I've been dating an atheist.

I feel like my mother knows I might not believe in her god, but she's too afraid to ask. Dad already said he would disown me if I stopped believing. I keep my stuff on the DL.

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TIFFIT- thanks and I totally agree with you. She was a RUDE idiot. Not a friend at all, but a neighbor with a son my son played with. UNTIL I sent the "horrible" Christmas card. If someone sent me a Hanukuh card, I would thank them and display it along with my other cards.

P.S. You also work with an idiot. People are entitled to their opinions and beliefs, like those who still think the moonwalk was staged at a back lot at MGM studios. Oh, and Elvis and Kennedy are still alive...........:)




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Well, if we'd had sex and he'd dumped me for being promiscuous, I'd have been grateful to have discovered early on in the relationship that he was an ... I'm trying to think of a clean word here ... idiot.

I was genuinely surprised that he was prepared to stay the night and it was very clear what the night would entail but I guess I just thought that he was at least in touch with the modern world and realised that marriage is unnecessary and outdated (my view!)

He himself is divorced and now re-married and I know he had premarital sex with both his wives. So I guess he chooses to ignore that part of some people's version of Christianity.

Honestly, one way or another, I was well out of it!

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Oh wow, not invited to your brother's wedding...

Yep, I'd just let it go. Water under the bridge.




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5/18/14 3:37 P

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No, it has not and I don't expect it will.



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5/18/14 3:32 P

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Exactly what I was thinking, Archimedes! emoticon

"Optimism is an act of bravery."

"Choices, not sacrifices."


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5/18/14 3:29 P



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EMSR2D2,

That was an interesting situation. On the one hand, he felt that he had to cleanse himself in church after discovering that you had books on Wicca. You evil thing you. lol.

And yet, he didn't seem to be bothered by the possibility of having premarital sex with you. I wonder what his thoughts on women having sex before marriage are. You could have been stuck between a rock and a hard place with that nice guy. If you had sex with him that night, he could have dumped you for being promiscuous. He could have told you that good Christian women don't have sex before marriage. He sounds like the type.

Several years ago, when I was trying online dating, I met a guy who said he was a born again Christian. said he'd converted from Catholicism. We had exchanged emails and finally started talking on the phone. the phone calls started out well and I was ready to set a date with the guy. He seemed really nice. But, on our last call, he started saying things that didn't strike me as being very Christian.

First, he started saying that he reason he converted was because the Pope was horrible person. Second, he started telling me that his ex wife was a drunkard. Third, he said his 11-12 year old son was dumb, lazy and a liar.

Long story short, since the conversation was going South exponentially, I told him that meeting him wouldn't be a good idea. That's when he started calling me a few choice words and that's when I hung up.

Luckily, he never called back. phew...






Edited by: ARCHIMEDESII at: 5/18/2014 (15:42)
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5/18/14 12:06 P

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Only once. I met up with a school friend many years after we left school and we got on really well. We went out for a couple of drinks and we started to get quite friendly. He came to my house one evening for dinner and the expectation was that he would stay the night (you know what I mean!)

I knew that he was a "born-again Christian" but that was irrelevant to me. His religion was his choice and his business, not mine.

We had a very nice evening and then we headed towards the bedroom, passing one of my bookshelves on the way. He stopped dead in the hallway and said "What's that?" He was pointing at one of my books on Wicca and paganism. At the time, I was very interested in the subjects and had several books on the matter. I'm not talking about those dumb teenage "witch" books. I'm talking about serious proper informative books about the topics.

I told him about my interest and that I was reading lots about them although I did not actually consider myself to be either pagan or Wiccan. I was then (and still am) an atheist.

And that was that. He got his coat and left, saying "There is no way that I could have a relationship with someone who believes in this kind of thing". I tried to point out that I didn't "believe" anything but he was having none of it. I never saw him again. I heard later from a mutual friend that he went to church every day for the next month, telling people that he had to "cleanse" himself because he felt he had been "touched by the Devil".

Overreaction much?! It taught me, yet again, that many people who claim that their religion preaches tolerance and understanding, seem to be incapable of actually displaying those traits in their own lives. I simply couldn't understand why he couldn't consider my "interest" in paganism/Wicca as purely my business in the same way I considered his religion to be nothing to do with me.

Sad. He was a nice guy otherwise!

Carpe Diem

Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it -
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5/18/14 11:24 A

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I'm surprised at you not being invited to your brother's wedding. Then again, you're probably seen as a lapsed JW rather than a potential convert. The JWs come round here inviting us to big annual conventions in a football stadium - seems a strange event to invite people to, but it takes all sorts.

I'm a Christian and so are a lot of my family - but I wouldn't by choice let religion come between me and someone else. But I wouldn't compromise either so, for instance, my funeral (a long, long time in the future!) will be in Church. If anyone doesn't want to come because of where it is - well, that's up to them. However, that's very unlikely to be an issue in my family.

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If your Jewish "friend" didn't speak to you after receiving a Christmas card she's an idiot.

Our family has a bit of a "don't ask, don't tell" policy when it comes to religion. For the most part they know we disagree and don't push it too much. I think that 1) they're in denial and 2) they're afraid to know the truth anyway. That's fine with me.

There's a woman at work who is a supervisor of a nearby department, and with whom I'm friendly. I recently learned that she doesn't believe the earth existed before 6K years ago. She thinks fossils and carbon-dating and so forth are all either made up or intentionally put there by her god to confuse people. I have to say that that's so irrational that I really don't have the same level of respect for her that I used to and I would be hard-pressed to hire her into my department if the possibility ever arose.

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