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"I chose to adopt him and by doing that I made a commitment to care for him for his lifetime"

My dogs sleep in my room with me, but they sleep in their own little beds. Whenever I would put them in the kitchen they would cry and carry on. You can even get dog crates that look like furniture, but those are quite spendy.

I also feel this way. I took my dogs on for their lives. And I will not give them up for any inconvenience. There are no bad dogs, just untrained dogs.

I also won't evacuate to a shelter. When I can't take my dogs.

There was one time when we got a significant amount of rain and people in the way of the dam were being evacuated. My mom had an appointment, so we piled all the dogs in their travel crates in the car. No way I am leaving my family behind to an uncertain fate.

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"I chose to adopt him and by doing that I made a commitment to care for him for his lifetime"

Boy, i wish more people felt that way!!!!

As for the OP - have you tried "crate training" with your dog? Many people have this idea that putting a dog in a locked crate is "cruel" but in fact, it is something that many/most dogs actually prefer, by instinct - they like to be in their safe little cave, it gives them security and a sense of place, more than a pillow or blanket in the "sleeping space" of a (big, scary, dark, empty) kitchen. If i were you, I'd set up a nice comfy dog crate in the corner of the bedroom, where she's close to the security of "her people"... don't actually lock the door to it at first, until she's used to it being "her safe space" - after she is used to it and goes in there willingly/happily, you can try locking the door, then moving the crate to a different room if you don't want her to move into yours permanently.

I highly doubt the dog is acting "out of spite" - more likely she's just lonely and anxious and perhaps a little scared - why doesn't she do this when your husband is home? Well, think about it from a tiny-dog point of view - she gets scared, she barks for assistance from her pack, the Big Noisy One comes down and yells, and she's all relieved, she's not repentant and "behaving" in response to "being yelled at" - she's relieved that Big Noisy One came down and created a Big Fuss and warded off any scary things! Then she can relax and go to sleep. So, when Big Noisy One isn't around, let her bunk with you for the comfort and security, and you'll likely not have so many barking issues.

This info brought to you by former owner of one of the most high-maintenance, noisy, anxiety-prone dogs ever known. Who i still miss even several years after he went to his Doggy reward.

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Honestly I'm not even sure what a bark collar is lol. Is it kind of the same as a shock collar? If that's the case, I used to think it was cruel too but it's not. I tried it myself lol it doesn't hurt at all... It just feels funny... definitely not a nice feeling but well, that's the point.

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I am definately not a fan of the bark collar, I think it's cruel. Someone on this post mentioned letting her sleep with you. Some of you might cringe at that, but maybe that's all she wants is companionship. Like the idea of the more exercise, but you mentioned pain issues, so that might not be an option for you. Is there a neighborhood teen that might be willing to walk her once a day for a small fee? The Pet Smart Training is a great idea as well. Implement all of these, you may see a difference.

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BERRY4, that's just mean.
I have a Chihuahua that is crazy, like.. literally, he has some kind of brain damage and his bark is really weird. He doesn't bark he kind of screams.. that sound is the most annoying thing ever. I can't even take him for walks because he has some problem on his back legs.
So yeah, according to you he probably is an "obnoxious useless animal" but I would NEVER give him away. I chose to adopt him and by doing that I made a commitment to care for him for his lifetime....... Of course if I were a cold-hearted person who only cares about animals as long as they serve a purpose I wouldn't have adopted him in the first place. Having pets obviously isn't for everyone...

FENWAYGIRL18, please don't give her away :-/ there's always a solution. What has helped me is letting my dog sleep with me, now he doesn't bark at all during the night. The bark collar sounds like a good idea too. Or you could always consult a professional dog trainer.... emoticon good luck.


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I've considered getting an ultrasonic unit - it works by emiting an ultrasonic sound that is unpleasant to dogs but not heard by humans. It claims that the dog will be startled and stop barking. These cover a range (50 ft for the one I looked at), so can help if you have a neighbor's dog that barks too. We have two neighbors who leave their dogs out all night and they bark, and bark, and bark. If my girl is out, she will bark too but thankfully not while in the house at night. But during the day she will bark and anything or anyone that passes our yard, a habit we have battled for many years.

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I have a remote bark-collar. Works well. The dog knows when she is collard what the device does.

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I've never wanted a small dog because all the ones I've been around are yippy. But when I found Omar as a puppy all by himself in a park and needing medical attention, I could not just leave him there. He ended up losing one eye so he likely would not fare well in a shelter. For the most part, he is a good, silly, happy little dog. He's been with us since April of last year and is now part of our family.

I know that some people can give up their pets when they become inconvenient, but I just cannot. It's possible Omar was dumped at the park due to the medical expense to fix his eye (he had a collar on, so he obviously belonged to somebody). You can file me as one of those 'crazy' people who wouldn't evac to a shelter if I couldn't bring my dogs.

people who don't feel that way about their animals will never understand, just as those of us who DO cannot comprehend giving up a dog because it barks, or it's getting too old, or it needs some extra attention due to medical issues, or whatever. As long as I can take care of them, I will.
If my own medical or financial issues ever meant that I could no longer care for them, I'd have to find them a good home. That's just the way **I** feel about my dogs.

of course, if the original owners hadn't given them up, I wouldn't have the 3 dogs that I have. That's the yin and yang of it.




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Sorry - can't believe you all put up with such obnoxious animals!

My neighbor has the same breed and they are nothing but high-pitched, yappy animals that don't serve much purpose (if any). I certainly would NOT let one affect my health in a negative way! Give it away if you can find someone to take it!

And NO I'm not an animal hater. I have a number of animals, but I would not tolerate something that affects either sleep or health. Seriously!


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I have a 2 year old Pomeranian. In the past I have a 100+ lb Akita, a 80 lb husky & a 70 lb Chow. This 15 lb dog has kicked our butts. I did research to find out about problems. Poms have a tendency to get separation anxiety, it sleeps with me and I have no problem sleeping, he does not get up until I do.

If a bark collar is an electronic collar this will work, but only if you are trained properly. I did have to get one for our Pom because of the ankle biting and running out the front door whenever anyone opened the front door & I was afraid he would get hit by a car or get lost. Also it was attacking me if I tried to leave the house because of separation anxiety.

These collars are to get their attention and then follow your commands, they are not intended to be used as punishment or because you are frustrated. I have lifetime training available to me & the dog because I went through a national training facility (Sit Means Sit). My dog actually gets excited when I put the collar on, it has different levels from 1 - 6, I never go past a 2 because the dog is trained and I just have to get his attention to follow the command I am giving. "Quiet" means quite barking, "Off" is for any other negative behavior, walk means stay by my left leg, "break" is my release word when he can run around and do whatever he wants. "Place" means go and sit wherever I am pointing which might be a chair in my house, or on a large rock when outside. Yes it has been a lot of work and time, but I can take him places without issues and keep him safe. I started training him 11 months ago and it has really turned him around, and I did not break his spirit which was a concern of mine. Good luck with your Pom.





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I swear pets do get jealous, learn how to tell time, are afraid of the dark sometimes, get lonely and have their favorite people and spots!
At least mine seem to!



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Never had a problem with her in the house before or after. But, like my vet says, shepherds love to "talk a lot" (i.e., whine, bark and otherwise communicate verbally) so I think when I took that away with the collar, she decided she's send me her message another way.

Anyway, as far as Omar, the dog door does complicate things. Does he bark during the day? If not, maybe there's something he's reacting to at night. Mine definitely wants the flood lights on. Good luck, I hope it works out!





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we have a dog door, so the boys go out as the please to a fenced yard. When I have to bring Omar back inside, I have to lock the dog door for the night.

He's been very good about not doing anything in the house since he mastered the dog door. I don't know if the bark collar will help or not. At this point I just feel like it's my last hope. If it doesn't work, I guess I'll have to just lock all of them in for the night.

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I tried a bark collar once with my last dog. She was a very smart dog, and I won't say spiteful, but let's just say she always knew how to get her point across non-verbally.

Anyway, she usually needed a middle of the night 'potty break' but as soon as I'd let her out the back door to the yard, she'd start barking like crazy. I'd go out on the deck and yell at her to stop (in a quiet voice, not to further disturb the neighbors) but that didn't work. Someone suggested a bark collar, so I picked one up.

First night I put the collar on her, and let her out, she barked once, it went off and she kind of yelped, then started to bark again and it must have gone off because she immediately stopped. But instead of going out, she came back to the door to come in. She then proceeded to my office and 'went' on the rug. Next night I took the collar out, she left the door and headed straight to the office. Needless to say, I abandoned the collar idea.

What finally worked was that I would get dressed and walk down into the yard with her. Don't know if she was afraid of the dark and her barking was to warn the night creatures away or something? Obviously not ideal for me on those cold winter nights, but I figured it was better than angry neighbors or a stinky office. Eventually she was OK with me just going out to the deck, and then just standing at the door.



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I'm investing in a bark collar this weekend. I cannot take the all night barking, getting Omar in the house in the middle of the night so the neighbors don't have to listen to him, etc. I hate to do it, but I just don't have any other choice. Nothing else seems to work.

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my son and I both give her treats and we all take turns in feeding her hahaha it's funny because one said she see's me as competition hahaha you know I do believe she's jealous of me and my husband hahaha
I had to laugh when I read that because sometimes if my hubby gives me a kiss in front of her she'll growl or if he says he loves me she makes a noise that sounds like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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My neighbor has a barking dog and it gets quite annoying.


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About the bad attitude, is hubby the dispenser of all things good? Or do you share the treats and play time?
It might help if hubby backs off and you and your son feed her, give her treats and take her out to play. She needs to associate you with all the good things in life.
Pet training classes would be awesome if you can afford them.



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I second the obedience training. If you have a Pet Smart in your area, their classes are great. The dog learns, and the owner learns.

one little suggestion that often makes a big difference in a dog's behavior - make the dog sit before she gets her meals, before she gets a treat, etc. That kind of lets them know that YOU are in charge.

as far as the barking - well, little dogs must be different. With every other dog that I've had, redirection seems to work. We've used a metal coffee can with coins in it. When the dog would bark, we rattle the can.
last April I found a stray that is now ours (no response to the flyers I posted). He's a small dog and he is a barker. He does do much better when he's had LOTS of play time. Just a walk would not be enough for him. We play fetch with him and run around outside with him; the other 2 dogs also help entertain him. As long as he's been active all day, he sleeps fine. If it's been a rainy day and he's been stuck inside...it's going to be a long night.

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If I leave my dogs in the kitchen they will not be happy and carry on all night. My dogs sleep in my bedroom, in their own little beds. And they are very happy.

Maybe get her some obedience training. Sounds to me like she views you as competition for your husbands and sons affections. There is a woman from It's Me or the Dog and Cesar Milan, both deal with desperate situations.

I beg you to please find a solution and not add to the growing shelter population.

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it's my dog not a neighbors, she's a Pomeranian and she's gated up in a small area in the kitchen where she has her place to lay. She's taken out before bed and gets plenty of exercise, can I say she's kind of spiteful ? hahaha because she doesn't do this when my husband is home for the evening, because she knows he will come down and yell at her.
There are no noises, she's unlike any Pom I've ever had and I use to breed them... she growls at me and my son when we put her away for the evening and can sometimes get nippy, I mean sometimes we can't even pick her up and she's not mistreated by us.
She gets her treats, has her exercise time, shown love but she can be spiteful very unlike my prior Poms.
I was thinking of a bark collar, because I'm really at my wits end with her she's not letting me sleep and its really affecting my health. I don't want to give her away, but I have to be honest I'm seriously thinking of it.
She gets in these moods where she'll be good for a bit and then it will start up again with the barking any little noise she hears all day she barks it's bad. I mean when my hubby or son leave the house she barks, if I go outside she barks, if she hears the neighbor shut his car door she barks... she's always been a bit of a barker but my god it's really getting to the point where you just can't tolerate it anymore.
We're constantly telling her to be quiet.....it's getting annoying... she doesn't even come when you call her to come in after she does her business we're like yelling for her for like 15 minutes

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I highly recommend getting your dog checked out by your vet and then discuss the barking issue in depth with the vet. I think crates are the best solution and it gives dogs a safe place to sleep...sort of like a cave!



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A few thoughts...Assuming that she is in good health, doesn't need to go outside and doesn't have any stimulus (i.e. cat at the window etc)
A tired dog is a good dog. So if you can increase her exercise in the evening so that she is tired she may sleep better.
Then try one of the following, give it a week before trying something else.
A spritz with a water bottle will be a deterrent.
So will a container partially filled with pennies that you toss behind her every time she starts barking.
Containing her to a crate at night can help to limit bad behavior. It will make her feel safe and reduce stimuli that may be waking her up.

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Is this your dog or does it belong to a neighbor?

The most immediate solution is to get ear plugs.

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My cocker spaniel Tobi went through a barking and howling spell about a year and a half ago...middle of the night ..two or three times a night!!! whoa did it put a huge cramp in life!
The advice I got was to exercise him a lot more than I was...found out that he needed at least an hour a day of activity. And different activities to alleviate his boredom. He has been sleeping pretty much right through the night for quite awhile now:) Maybe the advice I got will help you:) Good luck:)

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I have a barky dog as well and she drives me insane. We have a spray bottle that we do spray her with. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. My massage therapist has 3 poodles - 2 standard and 1 toy- and she swears by a citronella (I'm sure I spelled that wrong) collar. When fitted correctly it sprays the dog directly in the face when it barks. I looked at them and they're around $50-75 which I didn't want to spend if I didn't have to.
Good luck!

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Maybe your dog is sick and needs to be taken to the veterinarian. I'm sorry you're feeling poorly. Hope things get better soon.

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If this is abnormal behavior (ie she isn't in the habit of barking for hours at a time, especially late at night) you need to check and see what is going on where she is. Dogs are like babies, they vocalize (and do other things) to tell us how they are feeling.

If this is a habit for the dog, start keeping a small squirt bottle of lemon juice with you and squirt it in her mouth when she starts barking. Dogs don't like the taste so it will reinforce the idea that barking is bad without causing her any harm.



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I'm at my wits end my dog is barking up a storm and she's literally making me sick... She's a beautiful little pomeranian who is 3 yrs old and she's been barking from 2 am on.....4 am on and it's really disrupting my sleep big time and I can't afford that to be done because of my fibromyalgia.
has anyone gone through this and have any solutions?
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