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I am happy and grateful for any well-wishings, from any quarter. It makes no difference to me their theological bent. They mean me well. Their joy spills over onto everyone! How can I take exception to that?

I love the diversity, and the joyous range of our cultures and beliefs.
I'm just as likely to say "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holiday" or whatever joy of the spirit is directed toward me.

I don't consider myself Christian... although I certainly wouldn't put myself in any "anti-Christian" light, either.

I love the holidays. I love the natural and seasonal basis. I love the trappings of it - yes, all the gaudy decorations as well as the peaceful and serene... Santa Claus and Father Christmas and the pagan rituals of Yule...
I love the music! some of our most beautiful music has been composed for religious purposes. My favorite holiday song is probably "O Holy Night" - it's just a beautiful and uplifting noise to raise. Words or not!

Why can't we accept beauty and joy and such rare human beneficience at face value? Thank you for sharing your holiday spirit with me! and here is mine in return... heartfelt. We insulate ourselves and isolate ourselves all year long. Can't we simply be family for a few short weeks, or days?

I hope everyone has a beautiful season. However you celebrate it.

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L4K - I was just thinking the same thing re:music. So we can't sing Happy Holidays according to one group; and we have to change to "I'm dreaming of a white holiday" to appease another group.

if somebody is nice enough to greet you, just take it a face value. Saying "happy holidays" or "season's greetings" most likely is not intended to offend people who see Christmas as a religious holiday.
"Merry Christmas" is likely *not* intended to mean 'if you don't celebrate MY religious holiday, you are second class'

reminds me of the suggestion that William H. Macy's character made in the movie "Thank You For Smoking". He wanted all films to have cigarettes digitally removed. They replaced them with lollipops and candy canes.
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I think part of what bothers me about the idea of saying "Merry Christmas" to everyone (and expecting non-Christmas celebrators to respond cheerfully) is that, in my experience, people who feel strongly about this are often the same people who support prayer in public schools. It often feels like telling people in the minority they they need to accept the practices/traditions of the majority and get over it.

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7aivTkmH8g

In addition to what I said in a previous post...wishing people Happy Holidays isn't new. I remember the phrase being around back in the 1970s. No one seemed to be offended by it then and people weren't offended by cards that said, "Season's Greetings" either. People seemed happy to receive the well-wishes and there was no controversy, at least to my knowledge.

Back when I was growing up, we used both "Happy Holidays" and "Season's Greetings" to basically mean the entire season between (and including) Thanksgiving and New Year's. It seems (to me at least) that this whole thing about being offended by the wording that people choose to wish people well during this time of year has only happened over the last 10 years or so. Honestly, I was completely confused and astounded the first time someone said something to me about the whole issue (and it was my mother-in-law, a devout Christian, who said she didn't want any of those "Happy Holidays" cards because it was supposed to be CHRISTmas). I think my jaw literally dropped when she said that because I was so confused.

Anyway, I think that some people just wanted to be offended by something else (because, being the totally miserable people that they were, they didn't have enough to be offended by already) and someone, somewhere, said that "Happy Holidays" was offensive and so some people started being offended over a non-issue and then it spread. People also didn't used by be offended by Merry XMas--when I was growing up, it was just a way to shorten Christmas so that it would fit on Cards, etc. better.

I suppose some people are also offended by the Irving Berlin song, "Happy Holidays" now as well. But, I grew up enjoying that song and I still do (link above). It's a fun song, not a statement against Christianity.

Of course, the more offended that people get by something, the more other people will do it just to offend them. But, I think most people in our society just don't care and want to enjoy the season. IMO, it's an intolerant and outspoken minority that's making this an issue. Personally, I think the rest of us should just leave them to their cultural warring and enjoy the Holiday Season for what it is (a wonderful time of the year) and for what it means to each of us, individually.


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I feel people have the right to express themselves any way they choose. One of the few things we americans can still do.



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Exactly FitnessFoodie!

Eons ago when I had Social Studies class we researched the holidays and traditions of different cultures and religions. Then in December we had a party where we ate foods from the countries we had studied, played the games they traditionally played, sang the songs and each of us had to give a little report about "our country. We had our class gift exchange, sang carols and the funny thing was, no one was offended or refused to participate. Our parents were invited and we all had a lot of fun.

Now we seem to be so worried about even mentioning the possibility of a Christian tradition that we are risk of losing what makes us such a unique culture.





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I usually use Happy Holidays for my own preference - referring to a happy season. I am offended by people who are continuously offended at everything or who want to press their opinions on others. I would rather see schools and communities celebrate MORE DIVERSE HOLIDAY EVENTS than whitewash everything to make it "generic". That is how you reach a deeper respect and understanding.

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Bah Humbug to anyone who is offended to a greeting that is not said to harm you, but to wish you well!



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Thank you for that! I couldn't possibly concur with your sentiment more!

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For me I find it really odd when people get offended by any greeting or gesture of goodwill or kindness. I don't care what package it comes wrapped in i.e. Christmas, Hanukkah, etc etc. I just aprreciate the good wishes.

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Early Christians didn't celebrate birthdays. That was seen as a pagan custom. There is nothing in the bible that specifically denotes Christ's birthday--though if you actually READ the bible, you can find several details which indicate that he could not have been born in December. Christians did not celebrate the Christmas until the 3rd or 4th century. St. Nicholas lived in the 4th century. Christmas as it is celebrated in modern times is most definitely NOT a tradition that has been around for thousands of years. Celebrate what Christ means to you symbolically in the privacy of your own home or church, but you are certainly NOT observing his actual, literal birthday. Even then, Christmas is only one day, so wishing a Merry Christmas for more than a month before the date is just odd.

I wish that people who want to force their religion on others would first educate themselves on their own belief system.

I get along with others just fine in real life, but if I feel like someone is pushing a right-wing, Tea Party, evangelical agenda, I will certainly call them on that. I find it small-minded and exclusionary and it is just as distasteful as racism or making someone feel like an outsider because they are from a different culture. These things are not OK with me, even when they come dressed up in red and green.

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The joy , to me, is to not worry about how others choose to celebrate Christmas but, rather, to honor and be true to what I believe this Holiday is about. I relish celebrating this Holiday to the fullest that I am willing and able to do so!

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I have read through most of the posts here, and let me tell you there are a lot. I find it most interesting that there is only 1 in the bunch that has a problem with any of it. That to me says that the majority does celebrate something and that they can get along, however the one? Doesn't seem too willing to get along to me. What is the point you ask? Well, all of those who are celebrating and who are Christians/Jewish/other and who do celebrate all seem to be kind and loving and well wishing where the one just seems to want to cause a problem. If you don't like it and you don't celebrate, just stay out of it. Don't cause a fight among people who are happy and following traditions that have been set down in their families for thousands of years. I'm sure that the 1 does have traditions in the family that they would not like to be hounded over. As far as Christmas, it is observed because of Christ, you simply cannot take Christ out of Christmas any more than you can take the new year out of the new year or Independence out of the 4th of July. I am a Christian, I don't mind Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, Feliz Navidad-don't yell I know its the same, however, I'm celebrating Christmas and I will say Merry Christmas to all.

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I miss living in the very multicultural city I grew up in, where my Sikh friends were most amused by (or politely tolerated) my seasonal greeting of "Jolly Diwali".

It seems to me that so long as the INTENT of the greeting is well-wishing (as opposed to one-upping or "proving a point" or playing the Indignation card), then the wording matters little. I would never be offended by ANY seasonal greeting offered in the spirit of kindness. And yet I am offended by ALL seasonal phrases if they are given with reprimand or disapproval in their tone.

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I say "Merry Christmas" because I am a Christian and I am celebrating Christ's birth. If you are not, and wish me a Happy Hanukah or whatever your culture supports, that's fine. I feel that using Happy Holidays is denying your own culture.

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Wow I'd be MUCH more offended by the comments than by the "holidays" decor! Here, people do usually say "Happy Holidays" instead, which I think is as it should be. It's not about political correctness, it's about not making assumptions about people or pushing your own religious holiday on others who might not be celebrating.

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There are so many more things to be concerned about. Some people just need to get a life.

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Beachgirl, Christmas is THE big holiday FOR YOU. For many of us, it is just a life-long pain in the posterior. Not everybody lives, believes or feels the same way that you do.

The greeting is a small thing, but it is a symptom of a bigger, deeper culture war. I refuse to acquiesce. Anybody who is offended by "Happy Holidays" can just deal with it.

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I agree with a previous poster who said that people seem to go overboard on this subject. As long as someone is trying to be nice and wishing someone else a merry or happy something, that should be fine as it is being done with nothing but kindness in mind.



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This is just another subject for people to get bent out of shape about and verbally attack others. I celebrate Christmas. I say "Merry Christmas". If you say "Happy Something Else", not only will I not get upset I will still say Merry Christmas. I am not politically correct, but need to do so in the work place.

I love all the old Rudolph characters too. KJ - I can't see the picture any bigger than what is on the message board because your profile/page is private.

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What is the chance of having peace on earth??? When a stranger is nice enough to wish me anything I just say "and you too" period amen.
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KJ ~ can see what you're talking about now so tyvm

can't believe anyone could get bent out of shape about that. whoever would try to make an issue of something so "jolly" just speaks to the serious woundedness of their hearts/minds.

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I am a Christian and I have to say that I may not be bothered enough to be insulted it does annoy me that when I am wearing a cross around my neck someone says happy holidays to me but if it is not obvious I am a Christian I can understand it but I also don't mind if someone said happy Hanukah me either because that is another holiday being celebrated.
When the big holiday is just Christmas I really don't understand why we can't say Christmas. I have talked about it with some of my friends of other faiths and they have all said they didn't mind when someone says merry Christmas to them because they mostly all said that they felt included in the holiday and festivities.
I just recently found out that apparently more and more non Christians are celebrating the holiday(decorations and gifts) possibly because the birth of Christ is being more and more removed from the importance of the holiday? however Santa Claus is based on St Nick a Catholic bishop so who really knows why?
I prefer a Merry Christmas but I will take whatever I can get and as far as bulletin boards or general public exclamations I guess living in a country where we are allowed to believe in anything or nothing we have to learn to be open to everyone because as far as I am concerned it is most important what you feel in your own heart and what you do in your own home to celebrate that day not just what someone posted on a bulletin board.


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Nooooo, not the airing of grievances! Couldn't we do the feats of strength instead? :)

KJ, we can't actually see the graphic because your page is set to private. Still, I think your friend had the right idea. I really appreciate it when people make any effort to be inclusive, even if that effort is as small as changing "Christmas" to "Holidays."

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Your friends bulletin board is very good. And I being a Christian would have looked at it and smiled.

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I even chuckle when I see Happy Festivus.

I think so many people get so uptight during the holidays, about such things. They just need to take a deep breath and calm down.



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Happy Festivus

can't wait until we get to the airing of grievances...
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attitude is everything....
If you want to include everyone...you call it a holiday tree, a holiday party, and wish people happy holidays. Isn't is about time to stop fighting the Crusades and start living together.

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I think your post was clever and wouldn't have thought twice about it.

I do get a bit bent out of shape when our city has a Menorah - and calls it a Menorah - but the decorated tree in the same square has to be a "Holiday Tree" rather than a Christmas tree. Come on folks - my faith and heritage isn't threatened by acknowledging other faiths' holidays, why should our city assume that our neighbors of other faiths will be put off by overt references to Christian traditions?



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I'm not a very politically correct person. I will not wish you a Happy Holiday on Christmas. Not will I wish you a Happy Holiday on Hanukah or Kwanza.

Nor will I get upset if you wish me a Happy Holiday or a Happy Arbor Day.

I think it's great that we can celebrate the traditions of different religions and cultures. Isn't that what freedom is all about?

It doesn't matter that Christmas is based on the winter solstice or that Christ was born in the spring or that oil burned for 8 days. It matters that we can all enjoy whatever occasion is going on at the time.

The people who complain about Christmas receiving so much attention usually just want to complain. If you offer them the opportunity to arrange a celebration for whatever occasion they approve of they are usually too busy or complain that no one understands.

Christmas can be celebrated as a secular winter holiday or a deeply religious holiday or anywhere in between. You can ignore it completely if you want.

Becoming upset over a "Holly Jolly Holiday" and pictures of Rudolph is ridiculous.



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I rest my case



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one of the people at my last job was of a religion that didn't celebrate Christmas. He was complaining to me once that "only Christian holidays are observed by this company." I pointed out to him that the ONLY Christian holiday that was a company holiday was Christmas. We worked on Good Friday (heck, we would have to work on Easter if we'd had a trade show moving in or moving out). After that, he quit complaining about that particular issue to me.

I don't feel like Christmas is 'shoved down my throat' because I don't go to stores very often. I did all of my Christmas shopping in 2 days. I bought 3 Angel Tree gifts. That's it.

I don't listen to the radio stations that play nothing but Christmas music. I don't watch the Christmas specials on TV. I rarely go to any Christmas parties, just because I usually have other plans.

it's really not that difficult to avoid all of it, trust me. I actually forget that the stores are crowded this time of year because I don't shop...well...ever. A couple times a year I'll go shopping with my mom & sis.



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You do know that Christ was not actually born anywhere around December 25th, right? You might want to read up about Saturnalia and other pagan festivals and their role in how the Church eventually scheduled the holiday. He was probably born between June and September, but certainly NOT in the winter. There is a ton of evidence for this right in the Bible.

Traditional teaching probably has the birth YEAR wrong too. Pope Benedict's biography of Christ posits that he was born between 7BC and 2BC.

Not that this might change anything that anyone might believe about his symbolic role in the religion...but this Christmas will not LITERALLY be Christ's 2013th birthday. Not even close.

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I find that facebook, and all those sights are a hotbed for thin skinned people. They can pretty much write out their frustrations and hurt people without thinking about it. They post and hit send, and it's already out there without thinking. As far as political correctness goes I say Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Christmas is my holiday and I'm sending you best wishes for the season. If you want to tell me Happy Hannakuh, Kwanzai, or Winter Holidays that's fine with me.



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I don't care what you call the holiday, Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. I know what it means to me and that is all that matters. If someone says Happy Holidays I say it back if I feel it. If someone says Merry Christmas to me, I say it back if I feel like it. I respect everyone's right to say whatever makes them comfortable or helps them sleep throughout the night.



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For the life of me, I don't understand why or how a person gets upset if I cheerily tell them, "Merry Christmas". It seems to me that any person on the face of the planet pleasantly wishing someone wellness and /or happiness should be received with graciousness.

My father taught me that politeness costs nothing and can return everything to the person extending it.

KJ ~ I would not have removed the photo. But then I'm not interested in being politically or socially correct most of the time, and, from the sounds of it, the photo had nothing to do with either. In this country (perhaps in most developed countries), many go out of their way to be contentious.

As another poster wrote, the attack says more about themselves than the "issue" or whatever.

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I am offended by people who are offended that someone has given them a well-wishing because they don't like the wording of said good wishes. Whether or not someone chooses to wish anyone Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, or anything else, the receiver of the wishes should be happy and gracious about receiving said greeting. It's sheer ugliness, in my opinion, to get mad at someone over their wording or start being hateful because you were wished Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Good grief. You don't need friends like that. I'd unfriend them all ASAP and get some friends who are nicer and more tolerant. BTW...even if someone chooses to eliminate the word "Christmas" on purpose, that's their business and anyone ugly (and intolerant) enough inside to get nasty and hateful over being wished "Happy Holidays" is, well...not someone I'd want as a friend or someone I'd even want to be bothered with...

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No, I'm not politically correct. If you are offended, that's your problem.

Everyone is just so very thin-skinned. I feel like our racial "issues" have actually served to divide us rather than unite. IMO if you were born here, you ARE a native American!
If you want to own your holiday, do so.

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I am a Christian and I say usually say Happy Birthday Jesus. But I don't care what you say as long as it's not hateful.............

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You know that you can't please everyone! I love the old Rudolph characters! Send it to me if you still have it. I like celebrating Christmas and it is a Christmas tree not a giving tree contrary to public opinion....I think if everyone's holiday is celebrating then you can call it by its given name. Politically correct is not always correct.



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I wouldn't of gotten offeneded... some people are just miserable and need something to crab about.... I wouldn't of taken it down if I were you, don't give into the haters there's nothing wrong with what was put on the poster.

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People who have a problem with X-mas are just ignorant. X is the Greek letter representing Christ. Writing X-mas in no way takes the Christ out of Christmas.

All of the Muslims that I know in the US also enjoy and celebrate Christmas. They love to decorate and give presents, plus it is not all that different than the big Eid.



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No, I never take offense to however people want to phrase their holiday greetings.

I don't think the end-of-year holidays are reserved for any one religious group, spiritual calling, or custom. End-of-year and winter holidays go back to the beginning of time, as do all holidays, really.

I specifically celebrate Christmas, Solstice, and New Year's in the winter but there are many other great holidays around this time.

Saying "Happy Holidays" covers everyone's special celebration.

I also say and respond to "Merry Christmas" and all of the other greetings but I like "Happy Holidays" because it is inclusive and if holidays are for loving our fellow humankind, being inclusive is one way to do that, so I have never understood the offense some folk take over using that.

The saying described in the OP is cute and clever. Not sure why that should bother anyone, but people are sometimes easily offended.

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I generally tell people Happy Holidays. Personally I think Have A Holly Jolly Holiday is cute and fun to say. I do celebrate Christmas but not in a religious way. I work in Jewish Early Childcare Center and I nanny for a family who is Hindu. I find each of the holidays fascinating and feel that everyone should be included because it's hard to tell what someone celebrates or doesn't celebrate based on looking at them.
I agree with a PP who stated on Christmas Eve or Day, Merry Christmas might be more appropriate, but what about during Chanukka? There are 8 days to celebrate that. I find those who are so full of vitriol about it annoying. The whole point of the US is religious freedom, so that means I don't have to celebrate in the same way you do. I don't get offended when people tell me to "have a blessed day" even though I'm not religious. Celebrate whatever you want, but let everyone celebrate whatever they want as well without making a big deal about it.



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Yeah, there seems to be too much offense -taking these days!



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I am not offended by either "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays".
To me, "Happy Holidays" does not mean the person saying it is anti-Christmas; I always took "Happy Holidays" to mean all of the holidays, between Thanksgiving and New Years Eve, like they were wishing me to be happy the whole season, not just on Christmas Day. I don't mind which greeting someone gives me; if they are nice to me and want to wish me well, that's all that matters.

Didn't Bing Crosby sing a song called "Happy Holidays" decades ago? I never heard of anyone being offended by that song when it came out.

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I am Never offended! Merry Christmas, Happy Haunaka, Joyous Kwanza, or any other Celebration. Thank You! I am impressed a person is wishing me a Great Holiday no matter which is celebrated for their race/religion. As far as a school celebration/party/ play etc parents of, non christian students should be told in advance, have the option for their child take the day off or leave early if Christmas is Not celebrated in their culture. Of course doing such is Not being so called "Diverse" politically!

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I am a cultural/religious mutt....I get offended by people who get offended.
I've been criticized for not spelling out Xmas...for some, that is a big deal.
I knew someone who used to get upset because my office put a plain RED bow under everyone's cubicle nameplate...then again, they would have been upset if they had Not gotten a bow. The point is...some people love to whine and make a big stink over everything.

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I am offended by the assumption that Christmas is the only holiday out there. I am not a Christian, I do not celebrate Christmas and I am really sick of having it stuffed down my throat. Sometimes it feels like religious freedom in this country really only means that you are free to be any kind of Christan that you want to be. I am fine with Happy Holidays and find it appropriate, but I LOATHE being aggressively wished a Merry Christmas.

I think that what your friend did is correct--Christmas has no place in public schools.

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I don't get offended by any of it but - I want Christmas to be over - I'm the biggest grinch of them all and I'm already tired of the music, crowded stores, holiday shows that I've seen a million times, getting gifts of stuff that I already have too much of, getting gifts because the giver feels they must do it and then they give no thought to the gift. Every year I claim that I'm going away and hiding for the month of December. This year I will pulling out for 2 weeks and I can't wait. Merry Christmas everyone!

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When I greet people at this time of year I use "Happy Holidays". If someone get offended..well that their personal problem. emoticon



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The only time I get offended by well-wishing is when someone asks me when my baby's due.

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So, yeah, I don't get offended at whatever verbal form the winter well-wishing takes place (happy holidays, merry xmas, whatever) although I say "Happy Holidays" myself.

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I think people have gone overboard with political correctness. In Birmingham UK a few years ago they put up 'Winterval' lights instead of Christmas lights. There was quite a furore about it and lots of people were interviewed on TV about it, including some Muslims. Interestingly the response of the Muslims interviewed was that they like Christmas, and that they didn't want us to change the name on their account because that actually sparked more racial prejudice if people thought that Christmas had to be called something else so as not to offend Muslims. Personally I would wish people a happy Christmas but then, in UK, 'happy holidays' hasn't caught on at all.



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Merry Christmas....nuff said emoticon

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By the way, I don't consider "Happy Holidays" to be "politically correct." I consider it accurate. On Christmas Ever or Day I would say "Merry Christmas," but from November 22- December 23 and from December 26 to January 2, "Happy Holidays" just makes more sense.



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It does bug me when people start saying "Merry Christmas" before Thanksgiving. I also get extremely offended if I say "Happy Holidays" and the person SNAPS "Merry CHRISTmas" in a tone that sounds exactly like "F*** you, b****!" (I have had that happen.) As far as I'm concerned, the only proper response to any greeting that includes the word "happy" or "merry" is "Thanks. You too."





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I once attended a winter concert called "A Winter Festival" and had overheard some folks get upset that it wasn't called a Christmas Concert.
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if somebody says "Happy Hanukkah" to me, I'm not offended.

if I say "Merry Christmas" and you are not a person who celebrates Christmas, I wouldn't be offended if you replied "Happy Hanukkah" if that's the holiday you honor, or if you replied "Happy Holidays"

I do think the removal of the word Christmas has gone way overboard, but you never know what the reasoning is. In the case that KJ gave, it had nothing to do with being PC.

I don't know why folks get their knickers in such a twist over Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanza, whatever.

just use my personal favorite...

HAPPY FESTIVUS TO ALL!!!

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I wouldn't have been offended, Holly Jolly Holiday sounds kind of cute.

Maybe the poster that was upset, was upset because of the song Holly Jolly Christmas?

I find that when people attack something with vitriol and viciousness. It says more about the attacker than anything.

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I say Merry Christmas to just about everyone. If they want to wish me a Happy Hannukah, happy Kwanzaa or whatever else falls this time of year, so be it. I've never had anyone yell at me or ridicule me because of me saying Merry Christmas

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I think everyone has a right to their own religious beliefs, and by using the word Holiday it also includes those that do not celebrate Christmas. I am grateful to the Muslims I work with or, as an RN, I would be working Christmas. Thanks to them I get to spend it with my family. Thanks to the Canadians I also got to spend Thanksgiving with my family. When it is one of their Holidays I make sure I work it so they can celebrate theirs with their families. The Detroit area has a large Muslin community and I have enjoyed learning about their culture as well as sharing my own. Happy Holiday to all.--- Mary



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I'm generally offended when people get offended over that kind of stuff. As long as you're wishing someone well for the holiday/winter/festivus season, it's kind of rude for that person to be offended about how you wish them well. If you're that offended that you feel the need to bring rudeness and spite into a season meant for joy and graciousness, then well, you're not exhibiting the tennents of your specific belief system particularly well.



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Disclaimer: This is not about Liberals vs Conservatives so please refrain from making those kinds of comments, thanks.
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So I posted a picture of a bulletin board from my school on facebook yesterday, my friend put a lot of time & effort into making it and it was all the characters from the original Rudolph, very well done and cute. Above it she had the phrase, Have a Holly Jolly Holiday, she said it rhymed better, I agree but whatever, I didn't make it. I liked it so much I asked her if she'd mind if I took a pic of it and post it on my fb page. She said yes.

Within an hour or so I had MANY not so nice comments about it because they felt that "Christmas" was eliminated on purpose. It was not but I didn't bother to defend the pic, I simply removed it.

I was not offended by the poster of it's holiday phrase. The school had no input into it and we have Christmas parties and Christmas assemblies and we all enjoy saying Merry Christmas to each other.

My friend's reply (rant) was scathing and dripped of hatred which I have never seen her post anything like that before.

Topic question: Are you "offended" by political correctness phrases or political incorrect phrases (not slurs) when concerning holiday greetings?

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