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I sometimes judge people on HOW they use swearing so if a "Finger-Wagging, Jerry Springer lovin Fool" swears I take all that into consideration.


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I love language. Sometimes the way that language progresses isn't exactly what we'd all like, unfortunately. At least, not for me.

Swearing, IMO, simply leaves me with the impression that the user hasn't the skills to express themselves eloquently in any other manner. Yes, some words may be offensive, and it *really* gets annoying to listen to someone on a cell conversation in which (literally) every other or every several words is punctuated with "f-this" and "f-ing that". Honestly. Don't they have any other adjectives or adverbs to accentuate their thoughts? is their mental landscape that barren?
Using surrogates is even worse, since it takes a glancing shot at emotion, but hasn't the courage to actually follow through. How useless it that.
I also don't care to endorse commercial/media venues (Battlestar Galactica - which I happen to like) just to water down a strong emotion. If it's watered down, why bother?

I love to find unique words and phrases to express myself. The down side of that is that I feel that people frequently can't grasp what I'm saying at all. Takes a bit of the bite out of it. Maybe that's a good thing, because I'm not really trying to "start something", I'm just venting. There is some self-entertainment in it though... because I can deliver a scathing remark and the person stands there with their eyes glazing over and never is sure whether they've been insulted or complimented! LOL That's not fair. Shame on me.
If I'm startled, or experience some sudden injury or pain, I'm certainly not beyond uttering some single expletive. It's reflexive, I suppose. But it's not a conversational item when I use it.

Overall, I'm not offended - for the most part - by conventional obscenities. The "f-" thing is so much in common speech now it pretty much goes unnoticed. There are things further down that line... such as derogatory descriptors of body parts, et al, which ARE offensive to me, especially when describing a woman. No excuse for such things, IMO.

I simply grieve the loss of the words we used to know. In most cases, those words were SO much more descriptive, eloquent, intelligent... and satisfying. We're down to base bedrock now and still digging. Alas.

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I think swearing is a rich source of language relief and have been know to swear fluidly when appropriate, but not in anger at another person.

Proxy swear words just seem silly to me. If used in anger as a substitute for the real thing, the toxicity of demeaning another by not even having the respect to reign in the language remains.

If used in other contexts where swearing is sort of okay and an emotional relief, then proxy words are unnecessary. Why not own the real thing?

All that said, though my former profession did contain sometimes an appropriate venue for swearing like a drunken seafarer, I personally think it's tacky to swear on the job or in any professional arena.

There is a time and a place for the controlled use of profanity. Adult people should be able to know when it's appropriate and when it's tacky.



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I swear, but I am mindful of the company I'm in. If I bang my head in my home and I'm alone, a steady stream of expletives will escape my lips out of pain and frustration. It's a tension reliever. I don't swear around my parents or young children. Work can go either way. Most of the time I don't, but on occasion, I'll use a curse word for humor more than anything else. My sis and I have some funny euphemisms we use around family, and mostly we get a chuckle out of them.

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I swear frequently, but I rarely raise my voice. The older kids and teens I work with know that I will casually swear and it's no big deal, but when I raise my voice they know it's time to watch out. The one time I yelled I didn't use any curse words but kids were talking about the impact of it for a few days.

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More words go out of regular conversation....



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Substitute words are the same to me - the perk is nobody gets offended.



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My family very, very rarely swore. And to this day, I remember my dad slapping me across the face, out on the driveway, when my response to him was " I don't give a f**k."

Fast forward 30+ years, yeah I'm still swearing. But, you have to be aware of your surroundings. There are situations/places where it is completely inappropriate and/or just low class.
Mom helper at Pre-K ~ That would be a big NO.
Sporting event ~ Have at it.
Work ~ I wish! (That's where it's needed most & used the least)

Proxy Swear Words: Stupid, either have the guts to say it or don't say it at all.




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I don't swear but for some reason when I get into pick-up basketball games I swear like a sailor on leave.



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I can swear like a sailor, but I'm pretty savvy about when to do it and when not to do it. I wouldn't want to make anyone uncomfortable. At work, I think my co-workers would be disappointed if I didn't swear!

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"Jeez-Louise"....ugh, it's too corny for me!

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One of the words I cannot stand to hear from anyone is "Sucks". I know it isn't swearing but hearing younger kids in Elementary going around stating "that really sucks" makes me crazy. It is just the connotation of the word.

Anyone else have a word or words that aren't "technically" in the swearing category but perhaps fall into the "vulgar" category?



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I've been known to swear at home only. I've always thought that people swearing in public doesn't make them appear too intelligent. However, it doesn't stop me from laughing at comedians that swear. Using swear words to get a point across cuts deeper than non-swear words. Depends who you are talking to, where you are at, and how mad you are.

Oh, and as far as replacement words -- they are the same as swearing, but not as harsh. I still cringe when I hear people say "freaking."

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I keep scrolling past the title of this thread and seeing the word "nueces"...which means nuts. I must be hungry!

I don't think that there is anything morally wrong about swearing...it is just tacky. I don't do it all that much, and generally only as a joke around very close friends.

Proxy swear words are stupid, unless particularly inventive. My father's favorite is "goshafridaydarn." Top that!

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I almost never swear (and NEVER in public, which means only maybe in my husband's presence, not the rest of the family) and I don't use coarse language, either. I didn't grow up around it and don't appreciate it from others, frankly.

I do NOT feel that using a euphemism waters down the impact. How could it, when so many people DO swear freely? A euphemism probably gets more attention than many swear words, these days, as they're used less frequently.

And although I'm fluent in a couple more languages, I don't use their swear words, either. One never knows who might both hear and understand. :)



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In 8th grade I made the realization that I was careful not to swear around little kids or older people.... one to protect innocense and the other out of respect. At that point I made the decision to stop swearing because that was the logical conclusion. Then I joined the Navy 13 years ago. LOL

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I don't like swearing; it is so negative, and I am a very positive person!!!!

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I don't swear, maybe once in a blue moon and I don't like when others do it around me.



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I am a very creative user of swear words...that is, I don't use the words most people think of as swear words. I spend most of my time with young children or those with special needs and can't swear around them. So, I make up words or mutter random words and phrases under my breath. When someone else hears me it often makes them laugh which helps break the tension.



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I worked in the Construction Industry for 20 years.....onsite most of the time! So hell to the yes I swear! Yet I do need to emphasize that I have toned it down tremendously since our son was born 11 years ago.....very careful not to swear around him, older people....so I swear to the dogs now and it is usually to do with the fact that I cannot find my glasses -- which by the way are normally sitting on my head while I go around ranting.

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I don't swear a lot, but sometimes in the heat of the moment I am guilty.



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Sorry, but I'm a fan of George Carlin when it comes to swear words....
and it isn't the word, as much as, the intent to hurt that is a problem. Swear words can release tension and frustration that might otherwise build, or they can incite violence when they are aimed at demeaning and insulting someone else. Intentionally hurting someone with words can easily be done even without swear words. So with words...intent means everything.

{...That being said...I am fluent in 2 languages... emoticon... }

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I do swear on occasion, but I don't think I do it constantly. Usually I swear when I am mad or passionate about something that I care about. I try not to but it is hard. It has been on of my New Year's Resolutions for years. 2014 might just be the year to keep it.



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That is where I got it from. My sister loves the new Battlestar Galactica.

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I swear like a sailor, but not with clients, children, etc. Probably do it less now than I did when I was younger, and usually more in irritation than true anger. I never use it while negotiating or making a formal complaint or dealing with service people, etc. I don't have any negative feelings toward it, but it's not always the best or most professional way of expressing one's self.



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I think using a euphemism, or replacement words, defeats the whole purpose. People know what you mean, but it lacks the impact. If the impact you need can only be found in a swear word, use it! But don't waste it. Using swear words only when no other choice works is what makes them "special".
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I love cussing. I love the way the words sound. I love the way they feel in my mouth. But that's just it, they're words and they have only the power we give them. All words are useful and necessary.

That said, I don't walk around cussing a blue streak. I know the power they have and the impression they make. I use them with care so they won't lose that power and so that I won't be judged unfairly for it.

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(Psst: Frak was first used in the original Battlestar.)

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KJ- I agree with you that swearing in anger is bad. I very rarely swear, but there are times when no other particular word or phrase sums up both a situation and its attendant emotions. If you choose your words carefully, then when you do swear they have tremendous impact, which (if ya gotta use em) is what those words are for in the first place.

I think using a euphemism, or replacement words, defeats the whole purpose. People know what you mean, but it lacks the impact. If the impact you need can only be found in a swear word, use it! But don't waste it. Using swear words only when no other choice works is what makes them "special".



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I tend to make very long run-on sentences when I swear just because it helps me get rid of my anger/frustration at the situation. It tends to be under my breath so others generally don't hear it. It will be a mix of the real things, foreign curses, and the substitutes...whatever comes to mind.

I don't swear at people. I find GRE words and a strong tone of voice are much more effective for when people screw up.



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In the 2004 version of Battlestar Galactica they use the word Frak.

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I don't use profane words at all, but I do use the alternatives like sugar. I have to be really mad to use the work frak. I hear that frak is the same as the other F word in other countries. I probably need to not use that one.

I don't know if I can post it but I swear words have unique origins. I don't want to offend anyone's delicate sensibilities

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I use the real thing under certain circumstances and when I'm around understanding people. I think the replacement words would be great here in the cafe!

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When I was younger (like in my 20's), I cussed like a sailor.. I grew up with that language and it was just normal for me. But then, when I started having children, it just didn't seem appropriate any more. I always told my kids that if I said it, they could say it, so I really had to watch my words. My kids are grown, but I still don't use swear words. I don't think you need to swear to get your point across. But, I know a lot of people that use that language, and that's fine....it's just not what I choose.

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I rarely swear around others,and when I do it is around family.
I don't think replacement words are as bad as curse words,but sometimes they don't cut it. If I stub my toe or drop a full glass of soda on the floor, "Daggone it!" isn't enough.





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If you don't swear then please post as well, I want to include everyone on this discussion
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In my opinion (remember that thread?) swearing in anger is bad, morally speaking that is, but using swear words as colorful metaphors well, I do use them but I am always aware the company I'm in so I do so when I think there won't be folks who are easily offended.

Here's something I was thinking about; what about using proxy swear words like frak or shet or friggin or jeezsh or gosh or etc.....? Are using replacement words just as bad as using the real ones?



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