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CAMEOSUN
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10/15/13 1:46 P

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Discipline. Cut back on calories & increase activity (exercise).


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Yes and be kind to yourself. Relax and just be kind. We all go at our own pace.

In the end, the best things in life came from our own inner growth and that came from dealing with things that we wish didn't exist and making them better. So in that way, bad things are a huge blessing.


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I've heard a lot about changing the daily routine of eating a bit. Eat a bit more or a bit less once or twice a week. I guess your body gets a signal somehow that it can drop some weight. I know folks who've had luck with that.... something to look into.

In the end, the best things in life came from our own inner growth and that came from dealing with things that we wish didn't exist and making them better. So in that way, bad things are a huge blessing.


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Not sure if that is the best way to do it?....As a nurse, you can actually destroy your "metabolism" by eating like that~ Just a thought



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I've just had luck busting a plateau by increasing my strength training, though I had a discouraging first week into it. I'm almost three weeks in to the new strength routine, it's much more intense but I'm seeing results, and last week's weigh-in, I dropped 3 pounds! Not something I'm going to count on this week, but still a nice change. :)

One warning, though - if you do boost strength training, I had no change for the first week after I started. I read elsewhere on SP this is pretty normal, as you're developing more muscle.

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Slog through it, don't pull away from your support systems and don't set your healthy habits to the side. If persistence doesn't eventually help you break through, try changing things up in your diet and exercise routine. Experiment with some new food or take a new class at the gym. Whatever you do, don't give up!

My name's Tina. I lost more than 90 pounds between March 2010 and March 2012 and have been keeping if off ever since.

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Be willing to love yourself as you are, be open, and then, who knows, you might suddenly find yourself having a good time, and then, who knows, suddenly you might be trying a new fitness plan or something new to wear, or, magically decide you don't really like something that you've been eating and that it's time for a change.

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Its taken me 2 years after a lot of plateaus and gains to finally drop 28lbs! Its been a gradual process and somewhat frustrating at times. Ive struggled with my weight all my life but only now after all these years has sometthing clicked. So what have I done differently?

Well for me I would have a bad day or acalorie snack and think ive blown it now so the day would turn in to a bad week, and the diet would start again tomorrow! I think we all know that feeling grrrr. Now I dont beat myself up I get straight back on it and allow myself a treat if I want a mcdonalds or a kfc or a cake or crisps ill have it I just cut back the next day.

Its that whole diet mentality I had to get out of and now nothing is banned or naughty and thats the difference. Suddenly when you allow yourself what you have classed as naughty or banned for so long it no longer has the same appeal. Its taken me years to change my way of thinking bu you know what I wont now go on a full out binge on crap because " the diet will star tomorrow"

Another thing is always always have a goal to aim for whether it be a mini goal of 2lbs or a big event, or that pair of jeans you want to get into. For me I went out and brought a pair pf trousers 2 sizes smaller to get into and today I have got in to them! Next year is my wedding so no excuses!

Hope this helps!



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I try to shake things up. Try out a new fitness activity like dancing or a class. Cut out breads and carbs and up the protein and veggies. And sometimes, I just have to wait it out. My body might be adjusting itself.

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CHANGE YOUR ROUTINE AND BE ACCOUNTABLE- which is exactly what I am doing today 10/8/13. Ive just decided to come back to SparkPeople after about a year away. I am going to TRACK my foods TRACK my exercise and TRACK my weight!! Being accountable is how I lose weight- i just have to make myself accountable again! 40 punds to go and Here I go...
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE

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Keep your eyes on your goal.

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
Your worst enemy cannot harm you as much as your own unguarded thoughts.
Drop judgment and pick up love.
If you can move a grain of sand a day, eventually you will move a mountain.
Crappy choices bring crappy feelings.
Can'ts are joy limiters.


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I've noticed that there are times when I need to totally cut out starch carbs...
but I keep the beans.
I allow myself all non-starchy veggies and limit myself to no more than 2 fruits a day.
I keep the proteins and the healthy fats within the spark recommended ranges.

That seems to reset my metabolism. It also lowers the calorie count because non-starchy veggies are naturally low-cal.

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Good thread. I have been at 185 for over 6 weeks. I have lost 55 pounds in a year. This summer I just am in a holding pattern. I loose a pound now and then but not the losses that I had been seeing. I know that I eat too many "cheats" but all in all I guess that I just need to stay in this holding pattern for a while. I am active. I have two new knees and have been able to do things that I couldn't do in years. I walk more, do zumba, work out, etc. Start yoga tomorrow with dr.'s ok. I have had to buy new clothes to go back to school so something changed over the summer. What do I do to get off this plateau??? Haven't figured that out yet. I know I'll not let myself go back up. Never will I be 200 again!!! Will try some of the ideas here. 600 calories? Good heaven, what would you eat??
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Get back to tracking food and exercise if I've let that fall by the wayside. Bump up my cardio by adding intervals and if I'm already doing all of that and am eating at the lower end of my calorie range, I eat closer to the middle or top. That shakes my body out of starvation mode.

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In 2010 I lost 60 pounds in a year (with Spark help) although I was not tracking calories or fitness. I was walking about 3 miles a day over a long period of time. The weight came to a 180 LB plateau for a little over 2 years. Then, I lost my mother due to illness and spiraled into depression and down to 165 pounds. 8 months later I started feeling better and therefore my diet exploded into eating everything I saw (because I finally WANTED to eat & took full advantage of food). Back to 240 I went & stopped once I got to 240 since I don't recall ever being heavier than that. Now I am more involved with Spark and I was able to lose 10 LB fairly quickly bringing me to 230, and that's been my plateau for 2 months.. I have been exercising 2 hours a day 4-5 days a week for the past 2 weeks. I gave in to temptation this weekend at the Greek Festival because I haven't seen any results in 2 months and am frustrated with myself. With all the sweets I ate I have gained back some weight but hopefully it will drop off once I get back to the gym. Part of me wants to give up but I know I can't afford to.

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I have been on a gaining cycle for over a year now. I had lost 28 lbs last year from January to September. I have now gained back 10 of those lbs. In the interim I retired from my job of 33 years and I have not been able to get back on my routine and regular exercise program. I am trying to regain my resolve to lose again!


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First, I don't beat myself up anymore--ever. I am myself--and I like who I am! I just do what I can do--I exercise daily, 7 days a week...and I don't worry a lot about food intake. I try to not binge on junk. I try to eat healthy sometimes. I try. But I'm not "in the zone" right now--so it goes.

I know from past experience that my apathy will disappear one day & it'll "snap" in my brain--and BOOM....I'll be a weight-losing machine again! For now, when I really honestly don't care one way or the other, the best thing I can do is stick with my daily workouts to stay healthy & strong...and let the scale fall where it may. :)

It Is What It Is.... :)


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Switch up your routine



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I just keep tricking my body.... I will eat 1,200 cal one day and the next I will eat 900. Then the next day I will eat 1000 cal followed the next day by eating between 600 - 800. Next, 1200 then 900. On my 7th day I eat whatever I feel like eating. I have chosen Sundays to be my free days. I do have to do some type of exercise everyday whether it's walking, aerobics, etc. I break a plateau quicker if I walk twice/day for a total of 4 miles.
It works for me if I stick to it.
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First time on this thread but I did read through the posts. I've been plateaued since Valentine's Day after losing 103 lbs. Then last week, major stress and an 11 lb. gain. I got focused again on Oct. 1 and since then I've lost 6 of that 11 back and am working on the other 5. I think now I have my focus back to lose even more and to break through that plateau. But even if all I do is maintain for another several months, I feel successful in all that I've lost. And NOT gained it back. It took a lot longer than a few months putting it on and getting up to my starting weight of 380 lbs. so I'm sure it will take time to get it off. I need to be patient with myself. But I need knee replacement surgery (both knees) and a hip done too. I had been too heavy to have the surgeries, but the doctor would do it now. I just think I'd come through it better if I lose another 50-75 lbs. so my goal is to really buckle down and get that off during this winter so I can have my surgeries next summer. I think I've been on this plateau long enough. Time to get serious again.
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It's all in our priorities. If you enjoy emoticon and it's a great total workout, just do it! I'm on a forever journey to eat right, change up my fitness routine by adding emoticon and increase my emoticon lifting as it is a life style change! emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon

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emoticon emoticon

here is another great link
Metabolism Advice . com
www.metabolismadvice.com/

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First, I would like to thank SHERYLDS for all the links she has provided. I have been following this thread for 3 days, and am interested in any and all insights because I, too, am on a plateau.

I decided to see my doctor, who really wasn't much help. So, I found a dietician through the hospital and health spa where I work out. She didn't say it, but I know she suspected insulin resistance even though my blood glucose levels are good. In the past I have been pre-diabetic. If you are in a long slump and can afford it, I would recommend talking to a certified dietician. At $50 for an hour, I thought our conversation was worth every penny. She analyzed my diet and made suggestions that are personalized to my food allergies. She gave me names of food products to try and recommendations for snacks.

Though we are all different, what she told me might help someone. I was eating 3-4 servings of fruit a day. She said to cut back to no more than 2 servings per day and to balance any fruit with a small serving of protein like a hard boiled egg or a Weight Watchers cheese stick. She told me to snack on more vegetables. Since I get hungry so easily, she also thought (correctly, I've found) that I need to eat 6 small meals a day. She thought I might opt for more lean protein and fewer carbs overall.

So, I went to her last week, and I've lost 1.2 pounds. That's the first time I have dropped any weight in MONTHS. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and keeping to her plan! If you suspect you have insulin resistance, educate yourself!


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C-Merrie11 has a point. I too have just come off a "break", eating at maintenance range, indulging a bit, for 5 days. Before,I was not seeing the scale move, and was "doing everything right", and had been for MONTHS. I was stuck for about 2 months, trading the same pounds. I tried EVERYTHING I could think of (more protein, less protein, more intense exercise, total different types of exercise, more strength training, more water), then decided to give myself a break, and as Merrie said "re-group". First, I gained a pound, then when I went back to "diet" mode after my break, I have lost a pound a day for the last three days!!!! Probably won't last (at least that quickly losing), but I am loving it while it does, and at least it "jump started' me again. The main thing: DON'T GIVE UP! YOU WILL LOSE EVENTUALLY IF YOU HANG IN THERE!

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Philippians 4:13


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I like the suggestion of shopping the outside aisles of the grocery stores. I also like cooking with chicken because my husband likes plenty of meat.

The best way to get off a plateau is to be very honest with measuring portions and then push the activity. Get up to fetch things instead of thinking "I can get that later when I'm up for something else." Walk to get fresh water before your bottle is empty. Calories in/calories out will add up over time. Weigh a little less frequently for a little while so it won't bother you, but consistency will get the job done. Eating more high fiber, high protein foods makes less hunger despite less total intake. A small portion of chili is pretty filling.

I'm on a mini plateau right now but I know it'll pass. I'm seeing muscles that I had been missing when they were hiding under their fluffy blankets before. As the muscles are growing, they gain some weight, so the scale doesn't see the benefit of the "fluffy blanket" going away. But my eyes see it, my clothes feel it, and if I can be consistent and not give up, the scale will catch up in a few weeks. These muscles are already burning calories more than their blankety counterparts did, and I'm feeling so much better!

Thanks, SparkPeople!

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I can relate. I lost a lot of weight a couple years ago and then got stuck, with 10-15 left to lose, though I have been working on it, on and off, with on-and-off success/failure. I know why I've "plateau'd." I'm not consistenly careful with my eating. I grew complacent. I was so happy with my weight loss, that I relaxed and started eating more than I should have.

After several years of this, I've reached a point of gaining more than I'm comfortable with. Pants getting tight... I've spent a fair amount of time reflecting on my habits, what's not working, etc. And I know things need to change. I've come up with a new plan for October - less running, more weight training and yoga, and making sure my calorie differential adds up to weight loss. (I was excited to discover the Calories Differential report in the Spark mobile app. When I saw that, it was like a Eureka moment, realizing that the numbers have to come out right, overall, or there will not be a weight loss. It is basic math :)

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just keep going - but I need to come up with another strategy!

Blessings,
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Getting back to measuring portions and tracking honestly. As a previous comment said "I develop food amnesia". Wonderful thread



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very interesting thread!

what ill add has already been said here and elsewhere, and far better than I will say it. but its an exercise for my own benefit- and if im lucky someone elses- in thinking it through and putting it out there :)

i have had a nightmare of a time losing the pregnancy pounds. ive always managed to be near or at a weight i enjoy so its been eye-opening having pounds to loose. i taught fitness classes for a while, and am studying to be a personal trainer, so this process has fostered in me some deep empathy.

losing weight is HARD. its hard because you have to do it every day. you can have everything in place- an exercise program you love, that includes cardio and strength, all the support in the world, a wonderful balance of macros, aiming for a slow loss of 1lb/week, but if you truly are working at a deficit which you have to do to lose weight you WILL feel hungry at some point. and trust me! i eat CLEAN. as nutrient dense as I can because Im working out a high level, nursing my 11month old, and not to mention running around after him (good lordy the kid was walking at 9months, running at 10), so I can't afford to not eat things that dont pack me with nutrients and proteins etc. every darn calorie has to has to has to count and I STILL feel hungry sometimes.

ive run the number gagillions of times thinking- maybe maybe this hunger means I need more calories. nooope. this is the range.

so when i plateau or gain, it usually means im burnt out, want a break, am tired of feeling hungry.

dont get me wrong- i dont deprive myself of tasty thing, I definitely enjoy dessert several times a week, a fried thing here or there. so thats not the issue.

its just the day in and day out of running a deficit can be discouraging. so sometimes i give myself a couple days of eating at maintenance calories. Days. Not weeks. Maintenance. Not above. I use those sated days to regroup, think again about my goals, and I set an eency weency goal. Like: ok, I want to eat at 500 cal deficit each day for two weeks and see how I do. Something I can keep up a head of steam about. Usually that renewed focus and energy will help fuel the discipline necessary to live at a deficit. and therell be a budge in the scale usually to help push me along.

i do a lot with mindfulness, grounding and etc. to keep from emotional eating. i nap cuz im still up at 3am sometimes with my baby who likes to practice his new words at that time ;) i set big hairy fitness goals, and include enough variety to keep myself excited (thank you youtube!!).

but ultimately I have to find ways to keep up the momentum to honestly truly really deeply create that deficit that is necessary for cutting fat. as leigh peele says: it just sucks.

but the rest of it? the rest of life- dig deep into it when the weighloss gets hard. we'll get there, friends.

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I am failing on some level too! Yet I am still going to fight myself to get thru my humps. Last nite I was reading some different diets, trying to understand why they think they are healthier in the long run for longevity. I really didn't like Shred's cause they seemed to live on shakes, and soup. This sounded too extreme, and not a good life style. In the Paleo diet, can check out on line without buying, and see their receipts, and what it is all about. Basically they tell you all the foods that are making you fatter, that aren't foods we might think are unhealthy. Then they tell you to stay away from certain foods cause they make you body toxic. Look this one up, it seems like it can help anyone loose weight. eva.

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LASHLEY13.....I've come to the conclusion that I have a tendency towards insulin resistance. When I plateau, it's usually the result of eating more starches than my system can handle...even though I usually limit them. It's not what the USDA food pyramid recommends that counts...it's what our bodies require that matters. I like that article on Insulin Resistance that I mentioned....it made a lot of sense in my case

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Your story is very similar to mine. And I started about the same weight. The plateau with weight gain is why I am here



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Sometimes we start to develop signs of Insulin Resistance

you should read this
www.womentowomen.com/insulinresistance/wha
tisinsulinresistance.aspx


here is a great excerpt from the article

"If a patient presents with insulin sensitivity, I recommend changes in her diet and exercise habits. I encourage all of my patients to shop the outside aisles of the supermarket, and to avoid the inner rows of processed food, sugar cereals, high-sodium snacks and soda.

A diet that consists primarily of lean meats and other proteins; high-fiber grains, vegetables and legumes; leafy greens; and fruit will substantially aid the body’s ability to balance insulin levels. If a patient is already insulin resistant, I recommend a meal plan consisting of breakfast, lunch, dinner, and two snacks. Each meal should have no more than 15 grams of carbohydrates in the form of vegetables and fruits (and prohibiting “white” food altogether, such as bread, pasta, and sugar) and some lean protein. Each snack should contain only 7 grams of similar carbohydrates.

Healthy fats, or those rich in essential fatty acids (EFA’s), are also important in an insulin-resistance diet. EFA’s can be found in avocados, cold-water fish like salmon and tuna, flax seed, and eggs and can also be taken in supplement form."


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I, too, am plateau'ed and frustrated. Yet, I will continue my routine to "keep it moving". Eventually, positive changes will occur . At this time, in my life, the goal is to preserve and protect my remaining health. Being active, for example, has reduced my cholesterol numbers by 30.



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everytime I start to gain...it's usually because of starch carbs and sugar.
If I go back to aiming for 5-6 servings of veggies and 2 fruits a day...I break the cycle.
Just sayin.
everyone is different, but Mother Nature gave us the answer...we just don't listen

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I hate being stuck in a plateau. I remained at 176 pounds for a year, and then this month I broke my plateau. Unfortunately not in the direction that I wanted to! I gained 10 pounds this month! Now I have to work hard to lose that new weight and get back to my 176. Next week I will meet with a personal trainer to discuss strategies to help my lose that weight plus more weight. Plateaus can be so frustrating!



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glad you're feeling better...that's the main thing....
new start... emoticon

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I experienced a prolonged illness (almost three months!) that has kept me on the sidelines and without my regular exercise I've gained some serious weight/flab. I spent the entire sickness just staying in bed, eating sweets and feeling sorry for myself. Imagine that I was depressed when none of my clothes fit and I could hardly complete half my workout after finally recovering. It's been a slow start because my body is still craving the junk! At least I'm becoming more consistent with my workouts! My strategy is simply not to quit. I've been exercising 3-4 hours+ / week and trying to limit my intake of soda/junk. As I'm the one who buys the groceries, it's time to clean up my pantries and fridge and keep that garbage out of the house. I think that will be my new strategy! I've never liked sweet before but after three months of staying in bed with cake.... you get the idea....



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I'm not likely to go vegetarian or vegan....but since I've eliminated almost all processed foods and aim for 7-9 servings of veggies/fruits...I notice a huge difference in the way I feel and my calorie counts, and my cravings. It's as if my brain is more satisfied BECAUSE it's getting what it needs. And because I limit my grain starch carbs, I don't get crazy cravings.
Beans have become a big part of my nutrition, and they replace a lot of the other starches

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Yes, that's exactly right SHERYLDS. There are more and more physicians and nutritionists now coming out in favor of a plant based very low fat way of eating. If you are interested, take a look at heartattackproof.com and www.tcolincampbell.org/ and engine2diet.com.

Here on Sparkpeople, there are teams like the Happy Herbivore Team

: www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_individ
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and the Engine2 team

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I have been losing weight effortlessly ever since I found this way of eating. And I feel incredible and so does my husband.

"What's so funny 'bout peace love and understanding." Elvis Costello

"A bear, however hard he tries, grows tubby without exercise." A.A. Milne

"I think I can. I think I can. I think I can." The Little Engine Who Could

Team Leader Happy Herbivore team.

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Interesting read....similar to Dr Joel Fuhrman, M.D., is an American board-certified family physician who specializes in nutrition-based treatments for obesity and chronic disease.
https://www.drfuhrman.com/



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Whenever I am at a plateau, I simplify, simplify, simplify. I take 3 equal size bowls. Full two of the bowls with frozen vegetables - no oil. Full the third bowl with either rice or plain potato. Again - no oil.

Eat everything. If still hungry - repeat. Continue till satisfied.

I eat that way for days until I can tell that I've got weight loss momentum going again.

I also read read read. I find that reading on the Dr. John McDougall sure is most helpful to me.

It really helped me to learn that, while exercise is terrifically essential to the human body, it is the food we eat that causes us to lose weight, or plateau.

Check out drmcdougall.com

"What's so funny 'bout peace love and understanding." Elvis Costello

"A bear, however hard he tries, grows tubby without exercise." A.A. Milne

"I think I can. I think I can. I think I can." The Little Engine Who Could

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WHOA.....DID SOMEONE CALL ME A LITTLE OLD LADY emoticon emoticon

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Here is a great website for user reviews on Celexa (and other topics)
it's called DAILY STRENGTH
www.dailystrength.org/treatments/Celexa
you might find what you are looking for in the comments they posted

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Hello everyone!!! This is a great thread!! Question, is anyone taking celexa and are on their weight loss journey? And if so have you had any success?

The distance between who I am and who I want to be is seperated only by my actions and words - Unknown

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PLEASE stop correcting me! There is such a thing as manners, don't need a bunch of little old lady types cluck clucking me to death. You feel how you want, I will feel how I want but you don't get to correct someone because they have a different opinion than you do, unless you're a republican lol. Geez, this is why I hate internet types! People feel so empowered to be rude and defend it on top of that. If we were face to face you would never say these things, nor would he. I can feel like I want without someone telling me I shouldn't feel that way!!!!! And I showed it to other people who felt the same way I did so I guess you are not the authority on the subject of MY feelings, nor is he an expert on the subject of weight loss, unless he has some medical degree he isn't sharing! You know, in the legal field if you go around giving legal advice without being a lawyer it's a felony. What do you call giving (unsolicited) medical advice from someone who is not a medical doctor? For Pete's sake, this is crazy. And what exactly, are his qualifications for giving medical advice? I wish people would stick to what they know instead of believing themselves to be an expert on things. You agreed with the hurtful comments he put on the other thread? Comparing obesity to addictions? Please leave me alone!

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Yes ... well...
AlbertJon unsupportive emoticon
AlbertJon took the time to suggest that maybe your calorie level was too low,
He suggested the weight gain might be things like water weight or bulk in your system.
He suggested You should ask the experts on SparkPeople so they could give you their advice
and He wished you the "Very best of luck"

In my book that IS called Support
It doesn't always have to agree with you...
it's sometimes meant to give you suggestions to think about.
You decide whether you want to follow the advice or not

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BeachGirl,

I am very sorry you have had such a hard, rough journey. I hope you don't give up. I believe you will get there eventually, as you seem very determined. I wholeheartedly agree with you that no two people are exactly alike. I believe every rule has an exception, and you are the exception! Please, don't take offence from anyone, as I believe everyone needs support, and SparkPeople is a great resource for that support. I don't think anyone meant to doubt your word about what/how much you are eating. I certainly don't. I personally have had to up my calories to get off a plateau, but I don't have medical issues to deal with (thank the Lord). So I think people were giving you their IDEAs of what MIGHT be holding you back. My sister is an MD, and she said medical issues most certainly can stop you from losing weight, or at least make it very hard. NOW, I am going to offer my (unsolicited) advice. Make sure all your medical issues are taken care of, try to relax and at least not gain, and BE GOOD TO YOURSELF, mentally AND physically. You are obviously very intelligent, and I am sure it must be extremely frustrating to be doing everything your doctor says, and still not losing. I will pray for you (hope you don't mind), and be rooting for you! DON'T QUIT!

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BEACHGIRL ... You said:..".People think they are being helpful, when instead they are part of the problem. Just my perspective."

And I suggested "Maybe you could create a thread that addresses the questions or the ideas you feel are relevant. You know best what interests you...the nice thing about the Café is that you CAN start a thread."

If you feel that some of these threads don't address, or Support, your needs...start one.
Start a discussion that will put more emphasis on things you are concerned with.
There are plenty of people who would like to participate. Posting is your choice. Perception is also your choice.

I admit....my perspective of weight loss is based on what I see in the majority of people I know. I address my opinions on my experience.
I open a discussion...people take it from there

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Are you suggesting that only the "majority" of people deserve support? Or that I need your permission to post on a thread? I posted a very general comment about my caloric intake after I had looked over my weight and nutrition trackers and compared the days I lost weight with the amount of calories I had consumed that day and noticed a pattern. Then I was hit with a very long comment by someone who (as far as I know) isn't qualified to be giving medical or health advice telling me exactly what I need to be doing. I felt it was a bit assumptive and unsupportive and felt the need to explain. We all need support, not just those of you who fit into a specific cookie cutter. But don't worry, I'll never post anything again-on your thread or any other. This is why I hate message boards.



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BEACHGIRL...I'm sorry for your situation....I wish you well.
Those of us who don't live in your shoes can only imagine your frustration.

I'm sure you understand that not everyone lives your situation....
the majority of people do have some control of their weight via their lifestyle.
The medical profession recognizes lifestyle choices as a major factor in treating obesity.
What constitutes a healthy lifestyle may be very different for the average person than it is for someone with a medical problem.
That is something the individual needs to discuss with their physician.

The question I posed here was:
"if you don’t have a Medical reason for your obesity…
WHAT DO YOU DO TO GET BACK TO LOSING?"
In this thread I asked What Strategy people are using to get back to losing, so that we can exchange ideas. I think I am being helpful to a lot of us that need that exchange of suggestions.

Maybe you could create a thread that addresses the questions or the ideas you feel are relevant. You know best what interests you...the nice thing about the Café is that you CAN start a thread.
You are always welcome to join my threads....Even if we disagree.

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BEACHGIRL679: There is no way that a 800-calorie a day diet will work. None at all. I don't know what your calorie consumption should be, but I would guess, with as active as you are, that it should be at least 1200.

Now, it would be near impossible for you to have gained 3 pounds eating 1200 calories each day for the week-end. 3500 calories equals a pound. You have to figure in that your BMI alone would burn the 1200 calories. Thus, for you to have gained 3 actual pounds, you would have had to have consumed 10,500 calories BEYOND your BMI and any activity that you did.
Not possible.

So any weight gain that you had would be things like (1) water weight and (2) bulk in your system.

The experts on SparkPeople can give you their advice, but I feel safe in stating that you need to consume far more than 800 calories a day. What consuming 800 daily does is slow down your metabolism to the point you won't lose weight very rapidly. Plus, I think it is very unhealthy. To be perfectly honest, you should be able to lose weight at a minimum of 1200 calories a day. In fact, I have read several times that most women should not consume below 1500 calories and men below 1800 calories when dieting and exercising to lose weight. Now, you add in the fact that you exercise 5 days a week, and that means that you will/can lose weight consuming fewer calories than you burn. But I don't think 800 is the answer.

Very best of luck! I think you need to jump start your metabolism.

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I'm getting very frustrated, because even though I am diligently tracking and working out almost every day (two rest days a week but not together) and am doing strength training and cardio (1 hour most days but I try not to do the same thing to shake it up) I can only lose weight if I eat 800 calories a day. It's hard to do all that on 800 calories, plus work and clean the house. This weekend I ate about 1200 calories a day and gained 3 pounds! Tracked everything that went in my mouth so I am frustrated that the formula isn't working for me.



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Timely! I just did a weigh-in and I gained a little back. So, I'm going back to the basics. Tracking and measuring every little thing, basically, so as to make sure that my carbs don't exceed 50%. I basically can't be trusted around simple carbs, and I'll bloat and hold onto the pounds if I eat too many, even if I'm within my calorie range. And I ALWAYS eat too many, unless I actually track it and measure it out.

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Thank you, Judy!

I am 58, lost 53 lbs, and can't make it down another 5. My plateau has been ongoing since May!!! I've not gone up and I've cheated, but it's just staying put. I'm a little handicapped with feet and spine, however do the old fashioned health rider, and gazelle glider (tony little) which I've been on for a year, heaving pulled them from closet a year ago mothers day, when I started, on a WW plan. It's been pathetically slow in coming off, and now 15 months later, I'm weary of it increasing some, althoug as I siad, I do 'cheat" from time to time and am not all that strict at this point. I am still tracking WW points, and am more conscience of what I choose for foods versus chocolate, etc, but feel like I get nowhere. I also walk as much as I can when I can outside, which is difficult with my feet, but I get through it and ice them later. I only make it about 1/2 mile daily, and on days they won't cooperate, so be it. I appreciate your thoughts and was so happy to see my feelings, are not just mine. Have a good day and thank you!
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I needed to reset, restart, reevaluate and be brutally honest...and I asked for help. Yes, lot's of "food amnesia" and extra calories sneaking in, less work outs.

Need to increase the weight training again, seriously get lifting again and keep building that muscle! Not letting the slide define me and not wallowing any longer than I need to!

I'm 5'8" and determined to make a change now.

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I'm just going to stick with it even if I'm up a few I have to keep at it.



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I think it depends on where in your journey you are. If you're still in the overweight or obese category and don't have a lot of muscle, then you need to shake things up by changing your workout strategy or how you eat. If your weight also includes a lot of muscle from lifting or strength training, then you need to not worry about the number on the scale and think more about how your clothes fit and how you feel.

If you're close to your perceived perfect number on the scale and your weight won't budge (or maybe it's even gone up a little) no matter how hard you work, then maybe you need to step back and listen to your body. Just because a chart says you *should* weigh x-amount of pounds doesn't mean your body wants to be there. Accept what your body is telling you. Nourish it with enough calories to fuel your movement, treat it well and it will respond by being healthy. The number on the scale is just a number. Do you really want to work that hard just to maintain that magic number in your head? I know I don't.

I started tracking calories & exercise on my own in mid-July. I had a range in my head of where I'd like to be, which meant a 10-12 lb weight loss. If I didn't lose weight after following my own plan, I'd accept that my body is where it wants to be. I didn't lose a thing for the first four weeks, then all of a sudden the weight started dropping quickly. I've lost 8 lbs since mid-August but things have slowed down in the past week or so. I've had over 2 months to think about how much I want to lose and how hard I'm willing to work for it. The truth is I'm not going to kill myself for a few pounds. I'm 2 pounds above what the charts say is a healthy weight for me. Two.lousy.pounds. I'm okay with that. I've changed my workout routine several times since July to avoid boredom. I vary the amount of calories I eat from day to day but I never drop below 1350. If anything, I'm usually in the 1450-1500, but some days I go as high as 1700. I'm 52 years old, petite, I walk 2 miles 4-5 times a week and just started an at-home beginner kettlebell workout last week. You don't need to starve yourself and workout 2 hours a day to lose weight.

If you're not losing and feel you should be, review your calorie range to make sure it's not too low, especially if your workouts are intense. If you're not eating enough to fuel your workouts you could damage your metabolism and slow it down to the point that any increase in calories will result in a gain. You do not want that to happen.

Relax about the number on the scale. If you're so close to goal but feel the only way to reach that magic number is to add another workout or decrease your calories even more, maybe you should try accepting your body just the way it is. There's so much more to life than obsessing about a number on the scale or a size label on an article of clothing.

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