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8/12/13 8:56 A

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It will keep people home longer!

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8/11/13 9:33 P

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Yep i think this story is legit, it comes up in quite a few legit-looking news sites but not, so far, on Snopes :)

www.nydailynews.com/news/world/builders-fo
rgot-elevator-shafts-finished-skyscrap
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8/11/13 7:15 P

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I was curious, so I did some searching in Spanish and it sounds like this might be true. It was a design mistake though, not intentional, and it is unclear what is going to be done to remedy the situation. One news report (actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/102494-e
spana-rascacielos-residencial-ascensor
) says that the project has been suspended because the architects have abandoned their work.

Apparently there was an elevator accident in this same building several years ago where 13 people got trapped. Rescuers had a hard time getting them out because the access points that should have existed had been cut out of the building plan to save money.

Sounds like a death trap to me. Maybe they figure that the type of English package-holidaymakers who go to places like Benidorm are unlikely to catch on?

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I am calling BS.

Also, I think that some of you are confusing Spain with Latin America...not the same level of corruption, not even close. Malaga is a region of Spain heavily populated by South American immigrants, so things are different there than in other parts of the country.

I used to live in Quito, Ecuador, where in the dry season, the hydropower plants go out all the time and the electricity gets cut off because there isn't enough water to generate electricity. Often in the afternoon there simply is no electric power from August through about November. So there are elevators, but often times, you are walking anyhow. I never lived or had classes above the 11th floor though, so it wasn't that big of a deal.

We won't talk about why a dry, mountainous place with tiny rivers has hydropower...that is a bigger story about US development aid and AMERICAN corporate/institutional corruption.

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Summershorts, I'm going to call "urban legend" on all that. I've lived in Spain, and there's less payola going on there than in most parts of the US. In the 80s I had relatively more money than average, and I would have been totally willing to pay a little "tip" to get a seat on a sold-out train or have the postal clerk keep his window open another two minutes, but no one ever took my hints, much less my money. I've also lived in Louisiana, where everyone I knew with a car paid an "express ticket" at least once. One friend got hit by a driver going the wrong way on a one-way. She paid her "express ticket," but the other driver paid more, and my friend got the blame! It was dismissed in court, but the other driver got off scott-free. The same city contracted with a parking ticket writing company rather than having the police do it, and this company used to send people out with portable no parking signs that they would set out so they could ticket hundreds of already-parked cars. There was a similar issue in the Chicago area for generations-- towing companies that were allegedly mobbed up would tow anything and everything and charge you an "impound fee" more than the vehicle was worth.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=389Rk1jzPMk

And this mistake in the building is more likely than you would think, especially if the project stopped, started, changed hands, got canceled, and restarted. It was probably one person who meant to move the elevator on the plans, and did a "cut and paste" where they forgot to "paste." If the elevators were on the first set of plans, no one would think to double-check and make sure they hadn't been taken out!



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8/11/13 3:16 P

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apparently the elevator goes to the 20th floor... somewhere along the way they changed the scope of the project from a 20-ish floor building to a 40-some floor building, "no problem!" just kept adding floors... without leaving room for the elevator shaft to rise above floor 20. -facepalm-

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This is not surprising at all, when you consider the amount of bribery and corruption which seems par for the course in Spain. One has to wonder what kind of backhanders have been paid to virtually double the size of the structure, too. I am more surprised by the fact that 35% of the apartments have been bought! But that would be quite a climb if you bought the penthouse.

I have a friend who owns an apartment near Malaga and she tells me that many of her (English) friends have been stopped by the police and given on-the-spot fines for some 'defect' on their car. The police threaten to confiscate the car if the cash is not handed over and they also refuse to write out a ticket or a receipt. No wonder their economy is in such dire straits.



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Wouldn't have to worry about paying for the gym anymore!

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Keep a sense of humor. Remember, laughing burns calories too!

Laugh until it hurts! It's one of the few things in life that's still free!!

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I can't believe that no one noticed it.
the designers, developers, builders, construction people, permit people, electricians,
and best of all the people selling and buying the units.
yikes

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Going up and down the stairs yourself is one thing. But even your best friend isn't going to help you move your sofa!





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Spanish skyscraper going up...but without an elevator. Folks, this skyscraper is 47 floors tall! Holy cow! emoticon How would you like to walk up and down 47 flights of stairs to get to and from your car? emoticon


news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/-spanish-sky
scraper-going-up----without-an-elevato
r---214416887.html


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