WEARINGTHIN's SparkPeople Blog http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal.asp?id=WEARINGTHIN WEARINGTHIN's Blog on SparkPeople, home of free diet plans and a healthy living community SparkPeople.com http://assets2.sparkpeople.com/assets/nav/logo_spark.gif http://www.sparkpeople.com/ Five weeks post surgery. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6383033 Well, it has been five weeks since I had my triple bypass. I must admit, my recovery seemed to stall a little in weeks two and three. But now, for the last two weeks, I couldn't be happier with how things have gone. (Well, I could be, but things have been pretty darned good.) Still eating a mostly vegetarian and fish diet. Down 22 pounds. Loving the summer weather. <BR> <BR> In two days, my son and his young family arrive from Phoenix. We originally tried to stall that trip, but as I am ge... Tue, 4 Jul 2017 00:02:03 EST Is It the Death of Ethics or the End of President 45? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6378388 I saw a report today of a Wall St Journal reporter, who was just fired for ethical violations. I thought, "How strange in this age of ethical overlooks, would it be that someone is being fired over ethics." It seems we have greatly made ethical allowances for the president who will not be named in this blog. He has been so callous in disregarding procedures and laws that leaders follow. It is actually quite amazing that he is even still in power. <BR> <BR> I figure, either we will continu... Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:35:17 EST Hello Fellow Sparkers http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6373966 I have been down from Spark for about three weeks. I had an unexpected triple heart bypass operation a little over two weeks ago. It takes a long time for recovery. Next Friday, I can drive again. I will be on a six pound lifting restriction for another four weeks. Three weeks before the procedure, my wife and I started a new eating protocol. We have been eating vegetarian with fish. In the hospital, they wanted me to go back to lean meat protein, so I have added some poultry. Very success... Sun, 11 Jun 2017 23:56:37 EST Why I eat what I do. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6364594 I eat. I overeat. Usually not till I'm stuffed. But I eat foods that will make me feel comfortable. <BR> <BR> I am sixty or seventy pounds overweight. Yet, I eat comfort foods much of the time. I eat high fat cheeses, potatoes and French fries, until recently, hamburgers and cheeseburgers, toast with butter is a great one. I eat the foods that will soothe my stomach from a state of being slightly uncomfortable, or slightly afraid that hunger is coming. With hunger comes some discomfort. Bu... Sun, 21 May 2017 06:14:12 EST Looking for Success Stories, with Coronary Bypass. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6360426 Yesterday, I had a cardiac catheterization. It revealed that my extreme pain I have had in my arm on and off for years had been due to angina. I have complete blockage of my left descending coronary artery. The solution recommended for that is a triple bypass surgery, which I'm supposed to have within the next couple of weeks. Needless to say, this came as a real shock to me. I never thought I would be one of those, who needed a coronary bypass. I thought that was for other people. Now, I fa... Thu, 11 May 2017 02:42:03 EST Celebrate! Celebrate! Dance to the music!! http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6358918 My wife and I are having our thirty fifth wedding anniversary on Monday. We're celebrating!! Today. we plan to go to our favorite jazz club, which is in Seattle, to see a well known female Brazilian jazz singer. We will be at the show an hour early to order dinner (Seafood or vegetarian, in keeping with our new plan). Since I don't drink, I'lll have them bring a large bottle of mineral water to the table. My wife will probably have some white wine. <BR> <BR> Then, on Monday, at my wife's u... Sun, 7 May 2017 14:54:22 EST An Assessment of Progress: Three Years at Spark http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6356804 Well, It's been three years. Up till recently, I was very involved in accumulating points. Then, I became obsessed with them, and took a little time off. Now I pick and choose what I want to do on Spark. <BR> <BR> I've lost about seven pounds. Not really much for three years of different types of effort. However, since the average person gains up to ten pounds per year, maybe I can't complain. I now see a nutritionist every two months. She is very eager and enthusiastic, and celebrates th... Tue, 2 May 2017 20:01:36 EST Why Can't The Richest Country In The World Offer Heathcare To All of It's Citizens?? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6351147 Enough Said. Glenn Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:09:49 EST Don't Stop Living Because You are at Odds with How the Country is Being Run. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6347304 And neither will I. I was just thinking tonight that I pay way too much attention to what's going on in politics. It's like I put my life on hold to see what I can be amazed and shocked at each day. And there is something new each day. But I won't stop living because of the strange things done by our fearless leader. <BR> <BR> Tonight, I turned in my credit card (to my wife), in order to stop the financial leaks. Money can go out in dribs and drabs. I realized that if it was going to last ... Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:58:31 EST It's pretty easy to add your loss to the weight loss ticker. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6344949 It's quite another thing to fill in a gain. I looked at my ticker tonight, and I was 4.2 pounds up from my last entry. So I updated it to my current 290 lbs. I now will work to lose 30 lbs, with my goal being to lose in five pound increments, as stated in an earlier blog about my weight loss plan that I put out tonight. Glenn Fri, 7 Apr 2017 04:20:44 EST Okay. This is it! http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6344942 Tired of reading about weight loss all of the time and staying the same. Tomorrow, I will return to 8 or 9 fruits and vegetables per day with attempts made to reduce fat. (Just eating that much plant food does crowd out fats from other sources.) <BR> <BR> Also, on Saturday, I'm returning to the gym. Have had arm pain that has kept me away, but I'm ready to try it again. Lite work on the stationary bike, and some extra leg exercises. Three or more times per week.That's how I'll start. <BR> ... Fri, 7 Apr 2017 03:09:02 EST "Still, Our Knowledge of the Planets was Meager and Where Ignorance Lurks, So Too Do the Frontiers http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6340563 of Discovery and Imagination." <BR> <BR> This was an early line from Neil Degrasse Tyson's nonfiction book, Death by Black Hole. I thought it had significance way beyond space. It can apply to any endeavor. <BR> <BR> To me, it fueled an optimism. An opportunity to use a new approach to that which we don't understand. If we can imagine our overcoming of our own ignorance (or lack of understanding) by seeing that on the other side of that ignorance is a new frontier of discovery and imaginat... Wed, 29 Mar 2017 03:49:35 EST Took a week off from Sparking. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6337681 I liked it so much, I decided to make it semi-permanent. So unless I decide I have something I want to say ( I have enjoyed blogging on this site), I will not usually be around. Thanks to all for your friendship and support. Glenn Thu, 23 Mar 2017 06:08:52 EST Taking a little break from Sparking. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6332724 I decided tonight I am spending too much time on this site. So I am going to take a week off, and see if I can't get involved in some other pursuits or activities. How did I ever get to the point of being stressed out about my points? Go figure. Best wishes, Glenn Tue, 14 Mar 2017 06:37:25 EST Debbie Downers are people, too! http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6332693 I've been spending some time on the new community boards. They are very positive in their comments. Almost too much so! I'll tell you why. <BR> <BR> I went on a couple two nights ago with some comments that contradicted a couple of the motivational quotes. I mean, I am my own thinker. Motivational quotes always seem inspiring, but can be off at times. I mostly backed up the quotes, but disagreed with a couple, explaining why, and suggesting so. Like, "You can only achieve great things by t... Tue, 14 Mar 2017 02:43:24 EST A Few Thoughts on Aging. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6327518 As I now approach my 66th birthday, I have a few thoughts about retirement and getting older. <BR> <BR> !. I was worried about leaving work because I thought I might get bored. This one was not true. As I spend time on my own, I have grown so in appreciation of the world around me. I am often content to be myself, with my computer, with limited TV and movie watching, with listening to music, both in my bedroom and in the living room where I have invested in some very nice stereo component... Sat, 4 Mar 2017 02:57:05 EST Three Pieces of Cake Today. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6314703 'Nuff said. Glenn Sun, 12 Feb 2017 00:18:20 EST Caregiving Becomes a Breeze?? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6314520 Being new to caregiver can be extremely trying. If you are caring for another, you can just about double what you have to do for yourself. Only with yourself, you feel free to skip steps from day to day. When caring for someone else, usually your own sense of conscientiousness keeps your feet to the fire. <BR> <BR> There are lots of resources and articles out there for caregivers. Curiosity caused me to rarely miss them. I would read them all. <BR> <BR> Lots of new attention is being giv... Sat, 11 Feb 2017 16:05:10 EST What Will You Be Doing During the Super Bowl? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6310806 My wife has a good friend who is doing a poetry reading at that time. I'll likely take her to that. Although I would like to duck out from that and go to my favorite Vietnamese restaurant for a bowl of Pho, I will probably hang around to show my support. Glenn Sat, 4 Feb 2017 17:10:21 EST Distress Over the Nation, Part II http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6310686 Yesterday, I wrote that due to my distress at what is going on at a national level, I would try withdrawing from some of the news, and step up my reading program for some of the books I have. But now I am realizing I can't bury my head in the sand. I have to keep informed and aware and keep commenting on this site and a couple of others that I go to. So no, I am not going anywhere. I do believe in an informed citizenry. Glenn Sat, 4 Feb 2017 11:38:20 EST Distress Over the Nation http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6310246 What to do about the great distress I feel watching our country under it's current leadership? I feel powerless watching lot of the BS go on. Most recently, it was Kellyann Conway spreading a brand new story that showed a real lack of cautiousness with the facts. The press secretary, Kellyann, and of course the president all living in a world of misinformation and recklessness with the truth. And it's not just that. <BR> <BR> I think he and his voters believed in a certain amount of infa... Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:59:30 EST Honesty is a Part of Healthy and Wise Living. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6307638 If you can't be honest with others, you likely can't be honest with yourself. If you can't be honest with yourself, you will not be able to make the tough self-assessments we need every once in a while to make various adjustments in our lives. <BR> <BR> And I might add, if you can't be honest with your country, where does that leave them? Being surrounded by "alternative facts" just seems like it would lead to chaos. And where would your country (and the world) be then? Glenn Mon, 30 Jan 2017 05:56:55 EST More People Die of Coronary Artery Disease in this Country... http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6307347 Than from any other cause. Also, one out of every two people will get cancer in their lifetimes. So taking care of your heart and arteries, as well as having an anti-cancer approach in your life will greatly enhance your wellbeing, and may well lead to longer and healthier life. Glenn Sun, 29 Jan 2017 15:44:57 EST Progress report: Third month of diet plan. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6306005 The plan was to increase fruits and vegetables to 9 per day. Also, to reduce fats. This was the anti-cancer diet. I went on it, and in eght weeks, lost 10 lbs. That was two and a half weeks ago. Now, I am up by two pounds from that eight week low. I haven't been getting in all of my fruits and veggies, and have been going for higher fat comfort food. The weight loss not only stalled, but took a U turn. <BR> <BR> Now is the time that I tell myself that I will always be just under 300 lbs. I... Fri, 27 Jan 2017 04:20:28 EST Progress Report: A Month of Fruits, Vegetables and Exercise. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6294184 A little over a month ago, I learned that because my older brother has prostate cancer, I have a greatly increased risk of contracting it. So, I looked it up on the Fred Hutchison Cancer Center website, and learned about their diet for cancer. It said to increase fruits and vegetables to 8 or 9 per day. It also said to reduce fat. For most cancers, you just reduce saturated and trans fats, but for prostate cancer , it seems all fats are bad. So I have been eating like it prescribes. I also, o... Sun, 8 Jan 2017 21:39:09 EST "The most imortant thing in life is to stay loyal to yourself." http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6293285 This comes from Lucia Manzano, 100 year old Spanish citizen who lived through the reign of dictator Francisco Franco. Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:41:13 EST A quote from an astronaut: http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6292364 "Every generation has the obligation to free men's {and women's} minds for a look at new worlds, to look out from a higher plateau than the last generation." <BR> <BR> Eileen S. Onizaka <BR> <BR> (This is not just about space.) Glenn Fri, 6 Jan 2017 06:16:01 EST My Word for 2017 Will Be "Patience". http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6289182 I can't afford to be all upset and in shock and dismay at everything that happens this year. So my word for 2017 is patience. Glenn <BR> <BR> And it will probably have to be my word for 2018, 2019 and possibly 2020. Mon, 2 Jan 2017 01:35:48 EST The Answer to: Do Things in our Lives Really, Truly Get Solved? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6288374 "We think that the point is to pass the test or overcome the problem, but the truth is that things don't really get solved. They come together and they fall apart. Then they come together again and fall apart again. It's just like that. The healing comes from letting there be room for all of this to happen: room for grief, for relief, for misery, for joy." <BR> <BR> Pema Chodron <BR> <BR> This is something to thin... Sun, 1 Jan 2017 03:50:31 EST I just want to say... http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6288328 A hearty GOOD BYE to 2016. Glenn Sun, 1 Jan 2017 00:40:20 EST Use Things, Not People http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6287519 The other way never works. <BR> <BR> (Taken from a movie about minimalism.) Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:06:54 EST Food is Function. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6280874 Food sustains. It gives us energy and nutrients. But food is also dysfunction. It can give us obesity and all manner of diseases and allergic reactions. It can save us, and it can kill us. <BR> <BR> I hope you are developing a good relationship with food. Glenn Wed, 14 Dec 2016 13:01:45 EST Quote for the day. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6278793 To the best of my recollection, it goes something like this: <BR> <BR> "New challenges often go through stages. <BR> At first, they may seem impossible. <BR> Over time, the same challenge becomes improbable. <BR> Until eventually, that very thing that's challenging us has become inevitable." Fri, 9 Dec 2016 23:07:50 EST In answer to the question, What was your childhood like? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6278362 At this point, and I wonder if many others feel the same way, I really don't know. Certainly I was loved when I came into the world. Dad was often busy building his business, an engineering firm. Mom was stay at home, often cleaning, cooking or visiting with neighbors and a friend across town (I would go with her). We had 4 kids in the family in a professionally oriented neighborhood. Nice maternal grandparents, who I spent time with and greatly enjoyed . I remember mom as being sometimes... Fri, 9 Dec 2016 01:16:31 EST A Bad Case Of Deconditioning, and a Solution. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6277895 Since I had back surgery last year in February, I have greatly restricted my activity, and thus have become very deconditioned. I have a long driveway with a small hill on it. A couple of weeks ago, I took the trash out to the street for pickup. Coming back, I walked at my normal pace, but by the time I got to the house, I was gulping for air and was so breathless that I thought, I could have a heart attack right here. <BR> <BR> In contrast, tonight, I had three large bins to wheel out there... Thu, 8 Dec 2016 03:51:45 EST Well, we've made it past the election, through Thanksgiving... http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6276479 and I take it most of us are still here. I wonder what effect the events of the last month have had on you. <BR> <BR> I know I certainly didn't want the guy who got in to make it. But he's there now. I've kind of decided not to get all upset about things. I know we have a government in power that doesn't represent my point of view. But what can I do? To preserve my sanity and help my wife preserve hers, I've chosen to take more detached view. It feels a heck of a lot better this way, and ... Mon, 5 Dec 2016 02:28:38 EST I need to do something to change my life http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6269200 Nobody puts a time limit on how long you can hang around Spark. I've been here for years. It IS a weight loss site, yet after 4 or 5 years, I am saturated with articles and quizzes about weight loss. I've had support when I gain, and support when I lose. And now, after decades of working on weight issues, I have a very low frustration tolerance point for reading any more. But yet, I'm not ready to jump ship. <BR> <BR> I think the only reason I'm still here is that I like hearing from my Sp... Fri, 18 Nov 2016 23:41:51 EST Quote for the day. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6268221 "Re-examine everything you have been told. Dismiss what insults your soul." <BR> Walt Whitman. Thu, 17 Nov 2016 04:43:25 EST Let's Put an End to This Brutal Game!! http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6267021 Yes. I' talking about American football. <BR> <BR> This weekend alone the quarterback from the number three college team in the country suffered a broken collarbone. First reports were that he was out for rest of the season. Now, his coach has come out ad said it's not true that he will be out for the season. There are only two months left! <BR> <BR> Another player this weekend suffered a punctured lung. <BR> <BR> So it's not only the concussions and consequent CTE that these guys re deali... Mon, 14 Nov 2016 22:30:00 EST Let's Put an End to This Brutal Game!! http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6267020 Yes. I' talking about American football. <BR> <BR> This weekend alone the quarterback from the number three college team in the country suffered a broken collarbone. First reports were that he was out for rest of the season. Now, his coach has come out ad said it's not true that he will be out for the season. There are only two months left! <BR> <BR> Another player suffered a punctured lung. <BR> <BR> So it's not only the concussions and consequent CTE that these guys re dealing with. We n... Mon, 14 Nov 2016 22:29:59 EST Time For That Peace Movement I Talked About a Little While Ago. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6266530 We could start by licking our wounds and practicing some random acts of kindness with our neighbors. And I'm talking about our neighbors on both sides of the spectrum. We've got to keep our heads held high and care for those around us. It's the only way to healing. Glenn <BR> <BR> (I was inspired to write these thoughts by a gentleman who wrote an article about the need for love on the psychologytoday.com website.) Mon, 14 Nov 2016 03:21:27 EST Had Our Cable Disconnected on Wednesday. http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6265519 We are now free of the cable box. Neither my wife nor I were interested in seeing this new president set up his forthcoming presidency. Plus, we didn't want to be involved in the very commercial and commercially driven holiday season. Thus, we will be approaching Christmas with a degree of peace. Best wishes, Glenn Sat, 12 Nov 2016 03:09:45 EST What do we do in a horrible time like this? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6264393 In the words of the great Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu: <BR> <BR> "Chop wood. Carry water." <BR> <BR> It's what we always do. <BR> <BR> Take care, Glenn Wed, 9 Nov 2016 14:23:08 EST As I saw Whoopi Goldberg say this morning... http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6264173 No matter what happens today, you've still got to get up tomorrow and take care of your baby, buy your groceries, and pay your bills. <BR> <BR> Here Here. Tomorrow, I've got to get up, take a shower, go to the dentist to get my teeth cleaned, grocery shop, and serve something for dinner. How right she was. Glenn Wed, 9 Nov 2016 04:27:31 EST "Most True Things are Kind of Corny, Don't You Think? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6262198 The full quote is: <BR> "Most true things are kind of corny, don't you think? <BR> But we make them more sophisticated out of sheer embarrassment." <BR> Michael Faber <BR> <BR> Today, I really embarrassed myself. I was no doubt being genuine, which is okay when you're writing a blog, but sometimes doesn't work when you are out in the world. I loved my dad, but I always thought he was kind of an idiot so... Sat, 5 Nov 2016 08:34:28 EST Could Somebody Stop Changing All of the Rules??!! http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6262085 That's not my sentiment, but it seems to be the way a lot of people in his country and the world feel about how things are progressing. Women have made strides forward. African Americans have made gains. The concerns of Hispanics are now being addressed. The Supreme Court gave more status to the people who are LBGT. Whole industries are changing due to the needs we have to reduce global warming. You can now get thrown out of school for being a bully. These changes appear to be both good and b... Fri, 4 Nov 2016 22:52:24 EST Is today SOMEDAY? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6261667 Is today the day you take the bull by the horns and make that commitment for a new life? Is today the day you join the gym, go on a diet, eat that extra food (if you need it) give up cigarettes, have your last drink, call a friend, make up with that person you are estranged from, or start meditating? Today could be the day. Today is November 4th. It's as good as any other. Take the plunge! Why not start now!? Glenn <BR> <BR> *The phrase "Is Today Someday?" came from the Lymphoma and Leu... Fri, 4 Nov 2016 00:51:28 EST Second Day on My New Eating Plan http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6260126 I ate three meals and two snacks the first day successfully. However, I was pretty hungry at the end of the day, and woke up quite hungry, but 1.8 lbs down. It took me half a day to get over my hunger. <BR> <BR> Today was the same. I had three meals and two snacks, and was very hungry as the evening wore on. This time, I violated the plan, and had an Orange Julius (half orange juice and half milk on ice) later in the evening. Still hungry, but I'm thinking this hunger might fade over time.... Tue, 1 Nov 2016 05:42:07 EST We Hold Ourselves Responsible... http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6259523 For who and what we are. We are usually the biggest arbiters of our own guilt and shame. Yet are we really in that much of our own control? <BR> <BR> Can we help it if we were born small or large or thin or fat? Can we help it if we were born into a disadvantaged background, or lived in a home that didn't quite understand what goes into the love of a child? Can we help it if we had mean brothers and sisters, or none at all? Can we help it if we had good or poor role models when we were gr... Sun, 30 Oct 2016 23:14:35 EST Can I Really Do This? http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=6259090 Today it was a large bowl of Vietnamese beef and noodle soup (Pho) for lunch. Then two large pieces of sausage, pepperoni and Canadian bacon pizza for dinner. I'm eating wrongly, and plan to get right back on track tomorrow. <BR> <BR> Weeks ago, I instituted an eating plan that I previously had while recovering in a nursing home last year. On that diet, I lost almost 30 lbs and then put it right back on after coming home. The plan I set up at home this September was to eat three meals per... Sun, 30 Oct 2016 00:36:48 EST