TRI_BABE's SparkPeople Blog TRI_BABE's Blog on SparkPeople, home of free diet plans and a healthy living community A new life plan I'm working on a new life plan that I've put off for... years. It's amazing how many excuses we can make to put something off. Further, our weight can be tied in with life. It gets stuck when we get stuck. When we can clean out the closets, let go of the fear, anger or take a step in faith into the unknown, then we finally release the weight - both physically and mentally - and move forward. <BR> <BR> A big issue is my a career transition. I was laid off from what was supposed to have been ... Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:08:21 EST Yummy! Betcha never ate a sweet potato like this before! <BR> <BR> As I mentioned I'll be posting tidbits of various books from the library and a discount bookstore. Here is a recipe from, "Juice!" by Pippa Cuthbert & Lindsay Cameron Wilson: <BR> <BR> " <BR> Terracotta <BR> This thick juice, although earthy in color, tricks the tongue with a mysteriously strawberry-like flavor. <BR> <BR> 1 sweet potato, peeled and chopped <BR> 1 orange, peeled and halved <BR> 1 banana peeled. <BR> <BR> Juice the... Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:22:55 EST How to avoid snacking while snowed in! Another snow emergency! A $2500 fine for driving plus -15 degrees means another indoor day. But I find that staying at home all day makes me want to snack! I'm also staying with my food hoarding Mom, so I'm boxed in with LOTS of junk food! So what can be done avoid caloric disaster? <BR> <BR> Finding your triggers is important. We eat for a lot of reasons outside of hunger, so if you attempt to control the eating without knowing what is causing you to want to eat, most likely it won't work. ... Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:07:56 EST The return of 5-HTP Hey all, I'm still hanging in there. Despite doing light therapy twice a day, the seasonal depression (SAD) is hitting me hard with all the grey weather. So I've struck back with an over the counter supplement called 5-HTP. As some of you may recall, I tried it in the summer for my insomnia, but felt it didn't help and just made me not want to eat. With the intensity and volume of my training, I HAD to eat, so that did not work for me at the time. <BR> <BR> However a theory of a cause of SA... Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:04:52 EST To lose weight, you have to... EAT LESS!!! <BR> <BR> But many don't want to hear/do that!! And if you’re not weighing food, are just “estimating” portions, you’re probably not eating as little as you think you are! Secondarily, many people overestimate their activity level. <BR> <BR> For years I ran marathons and couldn't lose weight. "There's something wrong with my metabolism," or some suggested that maybe the weight I was at (15, 20, 25+ lbs ago) was the weight I was "meant" to be at, or that I was eating the wrong r... Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:39:28 EST A diagnosis... The doctor gave a probable diagnosis on the severe pain I've been having: Endometriosis, but he said my case is mild. The pain can be severe when I have it, but I have it a few days a month. He said other women can be in severe pain every day as well as other impairments I fortunately don't have. This doctor is a longtime ob/gyn and is the head of an integrative medicine clinic, one of the reasons I went to him. They suggest natural and lifestyle cures as well as traditional methods. He sugge... Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:09:35 EST Still around... ups and downs Hey all, just a quick update. I'm still around, but have had some health problems that may be obstructing my weight loss to race weight of 116. I made it to 120.2 but then it stalled out. <BR> <BR> Since last July, I have gotten pain in my lower abdominal area every 4-6 weeks. Often it's paired with fever and nausea. At first I wrote it off to stress, maybe food poisoning, etc until I saw it had a pattern. It ranges from mild to so bad I had to go to urgent care at 2 AM. They didn't have th... Sun, 12 Jan 2014 18:38:31 EST I MADE MY WEIGHT GOAL :) :) :) 40-45 LBS LOST!!!! My off-season weight goal was 124 and as of today I am 123.8! I have so far lost around 40-45lbs! THANKS ALL for your support!!! <BR> <BR> Mine is a story about not giving up: I'd estimate that I've been trying to lose weight for about 12 YEARS!!! I was always on a diet and not reaching my goals. I guess I never found what worked “FOR ME” until recently! <BR> <BR> After college I gained 5-10 pounds. And though I worked out all the time and ate healthfully I couldn't lose it. As a persona... Sat, 9 Nov 2013 11:47:09 EST Day 3 of Road Trip... just over 4 lbs to goal! Wow you guys, I am now just over 4 lbs to my off-season weight goal of 124! I am going to make my goal VERY soon. In my mind, I am now already at my race weight goal of 116. <BR> <BR> Before, I was mentally at 124 and wavered about 116. Was I being realistic? Was it achievable? Would I look too thin? But, I thought about it and knew I will look OK. It's not hard to visualize because my current profile picture is from 2007 when I was at my goal body weight and bodyfat. I woke up a few days a... Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:22:10 EST Made it to the 120's! ... 129.8 as of today! Goal is 124 and my body is progressing nicely towards it. My goal is my "initial" or "maintenance" goal that I'll have in my off-season. Race weight I want 5ish pounds lower than that. According to height/weight/BMI tables I will still be well within the healthy guidelines for my height. <BR> <BR> I decided to take an "off-season" before ski season starts to help with the weight loss. I was feeling very worn down, borderline overtrained and was not recovering with inte... Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:36:38 EST Graphical Example of Cheat Day Results "Cheat Day" or "Free Day" or "Day off from diet" or whatever you want to call it: it's a day where you either eat one meal off, or all day, but my version of the cheat day is I eat what I want and don't track. As long as my calories in are higher than out, to me it counts as a cheat day. I wanted to show you guys an example of what can happen after cheat days. <BR> <BR> Below is a graph of the weight I've lost, starting with the first day of my latest "reboot" on August 23rd. I say "reboot" ... Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:06:45 EST I've hit my lowest weight since 2001! Some things I've learned. I thought I'd share some things I've learned after finally getting over my long plateau. What have you learned that works? <BR> <BR> Technically, I was lower back in 2007, but was on medications, so I am not counting that. Now, due to lifestyle changes/taking care of myself, I don't take any medicine, which is a success in itself! Six weeks into this reboot, I'm at 133 lbs. I think in the last 10 lbs every pound becomes a milestone! <BR> <BR> <em>9</em> You have to learn to deal with hun... Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:33:00 EST More Progress. After following my plan of not correcting the Fitbit for underestimating the miles I am running, things went as predicted and I had a 1.1 lb average weight loss last week, the most so far in 5 weeks since refocusing. My bodyfat% is also going down. <BR> <BR> However, I now understand why many books on sports training say it's best to diet in the off season. It is VERY hard to diet and seriously train. Your body needs the calories not only for daily maintenance as with everyone else, but also... Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:37:32 EST Progress after a month. Hey all! So, I have been using Spark and a FitBit. I stopped using the Fitbit before because I felt it was not picking up my renovation work, but now the work is not as strenuous so I'm trying it again. <BR> <BR> I've also been posting to the Sparkpeople Virtual Weigh-in group and I've noticed that as an athlete, my weight varies a lot. The reasons include hydration/electrolyte balance, varying amounts of food eaten, muscle rebuilding after heavy workout days, greater amount of muscle mass s... Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:08:29 EST Seems like it's working! Last time I wrote about finding a sodium balance. I've seen results already since I've increased the sodium and electrolytes in the fluids I take with me to run/workout and in my daily diet. <BR> <BR> My performance has increased. I get less tired after working out and overall. My body stays more hydrated, and I'm continuing to lose weight even though my weight/body fat/body water scale indicates I am better hydrated. I felt puffy the first day, but that has gone away. <BR> <BR> The most i... Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:00:52 EST Finding a sodium balance? Today I did my short tempo run. It is normally my day off, but since I took Monday off due to the antibiotic, and the run was short (4 miles) as this is the first week of my new training cycle, I did it today. <BR> <BR> <img src=""> <BR> <BR> I wasn't sure I would be able to keep up with my new pacing. It was 10 seconds faster than my last training cycle's 5K PR. However, I experimented with being more vigilant about salting my food ye... Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:53:42 EST Workouts and some weight loss I need to improve my new workout schedule. The problem is that I do a tough Power Circuit/Kettlebells class Tues evening, followed by a key run about 12 hours later on Weds morning. Due to this, my legs were so worn out I couldn't get the knee lift I needed for fast running. Secondarily, I also have hill repeats scheduled Sunday, followed by Monday morning intervals. <BR> <BR> The previous schedule worked OK, but Tues/Thurs felt overly hard with other days being too easy. The nice thing ... Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:22:56 EST A bad hair day Ok, so I didn't meet my goals on Monday because I went back to the salon to get my hair re-done, and it took literally allll day. I went to a beauty school last Friday, and she did my roots, but missed a few greys, and my highlights should have been lighter and higher. Well, after day 2, I ended up not so great (top photo). I decided to take matters in my own hands yesterday, and go buy some toner (below photo). So ... a bad hair day into a good one... <BR> <BR> <img src="http://photos-ak.s... Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:09:49 EST New Workout Schedule It's a new week already, but my health is delaying the start of my next training cycle. I am on the last day of the antibiotic, which I read can cause tendon inflammation/rupture - not good when I had intervals scheduled. Sunday I was tired and sore all over, especially my right foot and left calf, after doing too much too soon on Saturday. I may do intervals in a pool today, but I'll probably use the remodel as my workout instead. <BR> <BR> My new workout schedule looks like this: <BR> <BR... Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:25:40 EST Hey All! I've been busy as heck, I guess that's nothing new! I've been finishing my Mom's bathroom remodel in the Midwest. It's been taking a long time, in the past 5 weeks I've been sick for two of them and out of town for about another two. Before that, I was here for a couple of weeks, then in Denver and New Mexico... so I'm almost done, but keep getting interrupted. <BR> <BR> My running has been going well since focusing on the 5K distance this year. Scored first place woman in the 18+ category i... Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:03:41 EST Excited about life! Hey everyone! So here's what's been going on. If you've been wondering what I've been up to (besides working out! LOL!) I've about finished with helping my Mom clean out her house. While she was gone for months in Seattle with me, parts of her house became infested with mice! My Mom was a minor hoarder and food hoarder, so that made things 100x worse! It's taken weeks now, but the house is about done and looking normal. Actually looks good! The traps (and cats) haven't caught any mice in seve... Tue, 21 May 2013 23:35:36 EST Starting Over After trying calorie cycling with mixed results, I've decided to try eating more (all those who suggested this to me can insert at big HA HA here.) In the past when I've lost weight, here is what worked: <BR> <BR> 1) Not working out and not eating much. This happened most recently after my Dad died last fall, but has also happened other times I've been very busy or stressed. So, we know at some caloric deficit I do lose weight. I don't know how much I was eating, but I know it was not much ... Sat, 11 May 2013 11:39:24 EST Sooo many sports, too little time... LOL Hey all, well first I am pumped up that I got a Nordic Track Ski Machine today, a stationary machine that simulates cross country skiing. I found one for just $12.50! I didn't have one here and I missed it! <BR> <BR> Also, I ran this morning but I almost went to a running club this evening as well, in part to meet people in the running community around here. In Seattle it was like pulling teeth to get me to socialize due to the SAD! I'm so glad I'm going back to my normal self. I didn't get... Thu, 2 May 2013 23:00:56 EST Happiness What makes you happy? <BR> <BR> Lately upon my return to the Midwest I've started to think that as long as I have sunshine, I can be HAPPY!! Lol, but then I started thinking about what makes people happy? <BR> <BR> My childhood was not the best. I remember for years, when wishing upon a falling star, four leaf clover or blowing out my birthday candles, I'd think the same thought: I want to be happy. So I think I've always looked for happiness externally: if I make this much money, I'll be h... Wed, 1 May 2013 23:39:59 EST Weight down, energy up! Hey all, I've been enjoying sunny weather in the Midwest at my Mom's house. Here's what's been going on: <BR> <BR> -Weight has dropped to the 135 point somethings!! So just over 11 lbs to go! I have some advantages now, too: my Mom has agreed to stop leaving snacks around. I do my own cooking here as well, so I know exactly what goes into the food I eat. I also have a good food scale. It makes a big difference to actually weigh food versus just use a measuring cup or similar. <BR> <BR> -Tr... Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:31:56 EST I know now! Hey all, the road trip is over now, and I've made it back to the Midwest with my Mom! Even though we had three long days of driving each day to make it from Seattle to Indiana, I am feeling good! I managed to work out each morning and stay within my calorie ranges, definitely tough to do when traveling! <BR> <BR> The biggest thing was I was in full sun, all day, every day, due to the drive. I could feel the improvements in my well-being and energy each day from the SAD. I have come to the re... Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:38:36 EST Need suggestions. I've been feeling very confused. I love almost everything here in Seattle - but, there's a lot of grey days for most of the year, and it has affected me seriously with seasonal affective disorder. <BR> <BR> I have used the bright lights and a few other tricks, and have gotten better, but still don't feel 100%. After going to the mountains and being in bright sun all day, I realized the lights do not cure the SAD, it seems to only stave off the action of it for a while. Even my weight loss s... Mon, 22 Apr 2013 01:12:09 EST 5K Race Report - PR!! Ok, this is actually my "recent 5K PR", not my lifetime PR, but it's a starting point. What a great time that was! I forgot how much I enjoy running shorter races. <BR> <BR> I took a day off from working out yesterday to rest my legs, and have a bit less of a calorie deficit the day before the race. As this is only 3.1 miles I don't need to carb-load, but I wanted to give myself a bit extra. I still got in almost 7K steps, but if any day is a day off for me, that is. So, my calorie deficit w... Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:18:54 EST Running a 5K tomorrow!! I know I said I was not training while losing weight. But it's driving me nuts! And I would like to add some intensity to my workouts versus just going out and running. I'd also like to be on a defined schedule as this helps some of the ambiguity and delay that I can have in deciding what workout to do on a particular day. <BR> <BR> So... I'm running a 5K tomorrow to get my race pace for training purposes! Though normally I train for marathons, I am changing it up to lose the last bit of wei... Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:29:11 EST The BATHROOM REMODEL (lots of pics!) Ok! Finally I am making a blog post on the bathroom remodel I recently did for my sister, as usual.. working on it by myself. This project helped me to lose the last part of my 8 lb streak :) <BR> <BR> My sister has a 5x8 guest bathroom. It is in a house built in the late 1960's and had never been re-done. She replaced an outdated light fixture in the past year, but that's about it. It was bland... including the almond countertop that was yellowing with age. The linoleum had chips and stains... Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:19:47 EST Dropped to my lowest weight in years I dropped to my lowest weight since 2007 (?) today <em>9</em> ! Only by a half pound, but I'll take it. Now I can say I only have "13 and change" to lose. I love taking that ticker down even a pound. It just seems like 13 sounds so much better than 14, 12 will be better than 13 and so on. <BR> <BR> I am not sure what broke the plateau, if it was eating more for a couple of days, stopping the tart cherry extract supplement I was taking, adding in some hill training, or ??? Whatever, I'm g... Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:27:44 EST Getting back up and pushing... hard. I was going to go for my run today, but after seeing what happened at the Boston Marathon, I made sure all my friends running the race were OK, and then went to lie down instead of running. As a runner for around 27 years, my thoughts go out to anyone involved today. <BR> <BR> Then tonight I found myself sitting around having not done very much all day. I checked my calorie counter. Almost 8 PM and only 1229 calories burned. Whoo (not). <BR> <BR> So I decided to get back up and keep going... Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:46:24 EST What could you do for ONE MILLION DOLLARS? As I was looking around on the Bodymedia site, I noticed how they were linked to the show, The Biggest Loser. And I got to thinking... <BR> <BR> Let's say you found out you are a finalist in a competition to win ONE MILLION DOLLARS, and all you had to do was reach your goal weight by a specific, realistic deadline. Could you do it??? <BR> <BR> Think about it for a minute seriously. ONE MILLION DOLLARS. How motivated would you be? What would you be doing differently from what you are doing n... Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:45:56 EST Starting the new plan, the changes. Ok, I was thinking about things on my run today, and realized I was looking at things with the wrong attitude. Maybe I was tired due to too much sleep aid or lack of sun. <BR> <BR> I lost from high to low 4 lbs. So let's think about it peeps... I only need to do that 3 more times and then I'm pretty much at my goal. WOOT! <BR> <BR> That being said, I think it's good to review progress monthly and revise. So I'm going to make the following tweaks: <BR> <BR> 1) Go by what the Bodymedia tel... Sat, 13 Apr 2013 20:35:05 EST A new plan. Well folks, I can now track my stats with my Bodymedia armband/activity tracker for 4 weeks from Thursday, March 14, to Wednesday, April 10. Each day I averaged: <BR> <BR> -2 hours, 34 minutes of activity <BR> -11,575 steps <BR> -2,401 calories burned <BR> <BR> I've tracked everything - average intake was 1,612 calories per day, giving me an average deficit of 789 calories/day. So I've been kicking some a$$. Since my bmr is just 1250, that puts me in the "Extremely Active" category, betwee... Sat, 13 Apr 2013 02:10:22 EST Bodymedia Link versus Self-Estimation After more research I bought the Bodymedia Link (BL). The Fitbit Flex seems like a decent option, but won't come out for several more weeks. <BR> <BR> I have been tracking the calorie burn that BL claims as well as the calories I self-estimate through a spreadsheet. Over the past week I have estimated 91% of what the BL armband says I have burned. The BL says I should have lost 1.6 lbs, my calculations say 1.2. If I go with a 3-day running average of my weight, I have lost 1.6 lbs. We'll se... Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:25:15 EST Fitbit Flex or Bodymedia Link calorie tracking devices I am considering going back to a wearable activity tracker. I actually do pretty well calculating calorie burn if I am "not doing much" (well for me) and just running. I just calculate my basal metabolic rate with a minimal multiplier and add in 100 calories per mile and voila. <BR> <BR> The problem comes in when I am working on a remodeling project or am just in general more active, or when I start training, which means I workout A LOT. I don't know how many calories I am burning to adjust ... Wed, 13 Mar 2013 02:49:03 EST March 2 Updates -Received my new scale a couple of days ago. In the past couple of weeks, my body fat has dropped 1.5-3% yet my weight is a couple of pounds higher. It could be scale variance, however my sister's husband has commented he can tell that I am looking more toned with the bathroom renovation work I have been doing. Now that I have a scale, I can track specific results more consistently. I'll have more accurate results once I have a 7 day average of the bodyfat #'s. <BR> <BR> -Still keeping up my... Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:09:13 EST Keep on keeping on... I've had trouble tracking my progress lately, but I keep on keeping on!! It turns out the scale I was using was my brother-in-law's scale, and he was upset that I had been using it. It records your past weigh-ins, so my use was messing up his results, so he took it to "his" bathroom. I have ordered a new scale that had good reviews, but it won't get here until next week. <BR> <BR> Scaleless, I trudge on. No reason to quit now... I do know that I have lost about an inch and a half off my wais... Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:08:29 EST Make excuses or make progress? Down 8 1/2 lbs. Hey all! A lot has happened since I last blogged. I've lost 8 1/2 pounds, am upholding my workout goals, and still using light therapy. <BR> <BR> I titled this blog, "Make Excuses or Make Progress," because the biggest impact on my weight loss efforts so far has been a book by Jack Canfield, called, "The Success Principles." The first chapter is about personal responsibility - ultimately, YOU control what you do and the resulting outcomes. <BR> <BR> I had basically written off losing weigh... Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:49:08 EST A reason I moved to the Pac NW (pics) <img src=""> <BR> I was trail running with my dog the other day, and took this photo at a lovely spot. Things like this remind me of why I came here :) <BR> <BR> Here's another one on the trails (that's my dog who ran the marathon with me in November!) <BR> <BR> <img src=""> <BR> <BR> And for all you fellow roadies out there... like I've mentioned... there's some BIG hills out he... Mon, 21 Jan 2013 02:10:10 EST Managing the situation Things have been up and down. I felt like I was getting more energy and then I crashed for a few days. I am not sure if it was due to changing the type of light I was using in light therapy too frequently, my TOM or something else, but I pushed through it. <BR> <BR> I've been sticking to my goal of exercising 6 days a week for 30-60 minutes, even when I don't feel like it. I do cardio every workout and also a strength workout 4 days a week, the intensity changes but on average it's moderate... Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:49:44 EST Feeling almost normal :) I thought today was going to be a giant fail. Feeling sluggish, I stayed in my sweatpants for most of the morning, not wanting to do much. I wasn't sure if I was going to have to start taking the Sam-E to help control this seasonal depression. It is an over the counter natural amino acid, however I still don't like taking pills. I also wonder if I gained weight when I went off it last time. On the other hand, if I am stopped from my normal routine due to this lethargy, maybe taking it would b... Sat, 5 Jan 2013 01:58:51 EST Making some progress! After four days of light therapy I am still experimenting. For example the overhead lights above my computer are daylight bulbs, and though not as direct as my desk lamp, it's a nice re-charge. However last night, I used them too late, and so didn't go to bed until after 11 PM and then slept poorly. <BR> <BR> I'm also trying harder to go to bed and get up at the same time daily. I use my dawn simulator then my visor or desk lamp for (at least) 30 minutes in the morning, and again in the even... Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:29:18 EST Light Therapy - What a difference a day makes!! First of all, HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!! WHOO HOO!! I hope that you reach all the goals you set for the year and beyond. Let's make it a good one! <BR> <BR> I started light therapy. I had various tools to combat Seasonal Depression from when I moved from California back to the Midwest: a bright daylight lamp, a dawn simulator, a device that releases negative ions into the air (removes toxins and simulates summer air) as well as a visor that you can wear around the house that shines light into... Tue, 1 Jan 2013 01:05:11 EST I made it to Seattle I finally made it to Seattle, arrived on Christmas Day. My house back in KY is finally up for rent. Is my life perfect now? No, but still, I'm trying to adjust and figure out a plan for what's next. <BR> <BR> In the past I've always moved for a job or a degree program. So I've moved with a start date, a target for a place to live (close to work) and a circle of friends associated with the new activity. Here, I'm sort of in limbo. I'm here, but I don't have a plan. I don't know what I am goin... Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:54:55 EST I AM PACKING UP THIS HOUSE TODAY!! Ok you guys. Since I ran yesterday and got my motivation back, I am setting a public goal of getting the rest of this house packed TODAY. I don't think it is unrealistic because a lot of it I did before I left in September. <BR> <BR> No more laying around feeling tired and depressed. No more feeling overwhelmed looking at it all. <BR> <BR> There is a time for everything but today is for picking up and moving forward. <BR> <BR> A couple quotes from the Spark board for today: <BR> <BR> <... Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:32:48 EST I'm back home (?) Well, I finally made it back to my house, though with most of my things donated, in boxes or even scattered on the floor from last September when I left thinking I was moving in a week, it's not much like coming home. <BR> <BR> Driving back into town, it felt like a place I'd not been back to in years. I guess when a close loved one passes away, it changes everything. It seems like so much has happened since Dad died, at the same time, it seems like yesterday when we were together. <BR> <B... Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:26:17 EST I'm still here... Well, I'm still here... taking care of my Dad's estate. I thought I would be able to leave the Friday before Thanksgiving, when my sister left, but things keep coming up, and it is getting frustrating. I am very tired. <BR> <BR> I am considering driving north and going skiing for a few days, rather than south, where my house, or more like the place I own that I will soon be leaving to move to Washington state, is located. I just feel like I need some sort of a break, if not I'll go from pac... Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:34:49 EST I Ran a Marathon I ran a marathon the weekend before last. I haven't posted about it because I have been BUSY fixing up my Dad's house and settling his estate, but also because I've been feeling very - 'flat'. I mean, you guys know me. Normally, I'd post something like WHOO HOOO!! I ran a marathon!!!!!!!!!!! But lately I've been feeling more like, whoo. I ran a marathon. <BR> <BR> I had to move the date and place of my marathon so many times because of my upcoming move, then my father passing away and the in... Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:23:53 EST