http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal.asp?id=SANDYBREIT SANDYBREIT's Blog on SparkPeople, home of free diet plans and a healthy living community http://assets2.sparkpeople.com/assets/nav/logo_spark.gif http://www.sparkpeople.com/ http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5362980 <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/4/1/l414410321.jpg"> Tue, 21 May 2013 01:35:20 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5358007 After being retired for 2 years (during which time I've never been bored for even 1 day), I've been appointed to replace our township clerk, who resigned effective the end of May. Have to wonder why I wanted to go back to work... <BR> <BR> Second, I've joined the Biggest Loser Challenge #22 (and hopefully will be placed on one of the teams). As active as I am on SP, my strong point seems to be more toward encouraging and motivating other members, rather than myself. So, I am VERY hopefu... Wed, 15 May 2013 23:10:49 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5341303 <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/5/5/l559043402.jpg"> Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:20:33 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5335119 Then (1986 or so) <BR> <em>26</em> <BR> <BR> <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/3/6/l366420307.jpg"> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Now (demolished by my well-intentioned husband who thought he would "fix it up" <BR> <em>198</em> <BR> <BR> <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/1/4/l1478238494.jpg"> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> The heir apparent (ordered from Gardeners' Supply Company - gardeners.com - $299 with FREE shipping!) <BR> <em>334</em> <BR> <BR> <i... Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:01:16 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5334210 So, for literally years I've asked DH to cut a new piece of plywood for the back end of my trusty old garden cart (purchased in 1986 or thereabouts). Then, last fall I bought a book with the plans for making a similar type of cart considerably cheaper than what a new one would cost and thought it would make a good winter project. Mentioned it a couple of times over the course of the winter. A few days ago I said "I guess we didn't get a new cart built over the winter, I think I'm going to ... Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:43:49 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5331682 <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/1/3/l1334550821.jpg"> Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:48:56 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5331121 to Spark People, that is. This has become an all-too-recurring theme for me -- still struggling to truly get back on track. Keep gaining and losing the same 3 pounds, ever since January -- I probably could have lost at least another 20 pounds in that time if I had just kept losing and not gaining back! Somewhere here on SP I saw a quote that was something like "if plan A fails, remember you still have 25 more letters." I must be up to at least "E" or "F" by now... except it isn't really t... Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:07:45 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5322954 <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/1/3/l1330848037.jpg"> <BR> <BR> It was so nice to see it shining through the trees this morning!! By 1:00 it was cloudy again, but at least we had it for a while... Now I am just hoping that the new winter storm, Xerxes, doesn't dump a bunch more snow here! <BR> <BR> <em>41</em> Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:48:47 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5320244 Today is April 11th and the weather forecast is for us to get 5-9 inches of new snow... we still have a couple of feet of snow piled up in most parts of the yard (and garden). And my husband just came in from taking the dogs out for the last time and said "it's #$%^&* nasty out there!" I'm seriously starting to wonder if summer is actually ever going to get here.... meanwhile, however, I started 2 flats of tomato seeds today (no, I don't plant them all myself, I give a lot of plants to fri... Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:24:04 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5302288 Six months with Spark People, and I have been in a bit of a slump for the last couple of those months. Not the first time over the course of those 6 months (although it HAS been the longest), and probably won't be the last -- but I'm still working toward my goals and have no intention of quitting. This end-of-winter time of year is always energy draining for me... gloomy, still lots of snow on the ground, and where the snow is melting there's lots of MUD on the ground. So it's me and the t... Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:10:57 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5221553 <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/1/2/l1250083881.jpg"> <BR> <BR> "How do I stay motivated?" seems to be a common question for those of us trying to lose weight. We start out with lots of enthusiasm, make some progress, and then slowly start slipping back into old patterns. I think that is the point where the vast majority of people give up, instead of really digging in for the long-term battle. I've done that before... you may have, too... but this time I am determined that ... Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:41:49 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5214216 to lose weight! <BR> <BR> The February Reader's Digest notes that airline seats are designed based on testing standards that are nearly 50 years old, and are meant to restrain a 170-pound passenger; but today the average American man weighs 195 pounds and the average woman 165, and "these seats may not be as safe for heavy passengers during a crash." Uh-oh... <BR> <BR> <em>40</em> <BR> <BR> Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:39:28 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5213788 COLD last night (down to about 8 degrees F), and the power went out a little after 10 pm. We stayed up until around midnight, after lighting a few candles and an oil lamp, and listening to music on a battery-powered player, hoping it would come back on, but no such luck... so, turned off what we could, threw another blanket on the bed, I replaced my usual PJs with a long-sleeve turtleneck and sweatpants, and hoped for the best. i woke up at 2:22 a.m. and the power was back on, promptly fel... Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:54:51 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5206875 After the umpteenth time of seeing a commercial on TV for an antidepressant drug, showing a woman with an umbrella that represents her depression "hanging over her," it came to me that I -- and probably a lot of other people -- also have things "hanging over me" that keep me from moving forward and doing what I want to do. It could be baggage from past relationships, health issues, financial issues... or, in my case, unfinished projects. <BR> <BR> In what now seems the distant past I enjoye... Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:27:13 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5176194 Well -- ate and drank and talked too much tonight, but had a great time with my extended family! My in-laws are the BEST !! Shed a few tears remembering my (100-year-old MIL who left us a couple of months ago), and laughed a LOT about past events and even future events.... my BIL and I agree -- we need to raise chickens!! (unfortunately, my husband and SIL are not quite in on this plan). So, a couple of steps backward, no doubt, but I'll try to make up for it in the coming week -- whatever,... Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:00:12 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5170604 to be over with! <BR> <BR> No real point even in buying anything for my stepchildren and step-grandchildren, everything we get for them is either (1) something we were told to buy, or (2) returned to the store and exchanged. One year I bought some pretty interesting, age-appropriate toys for the grandkids from a catalog that had things not available in our area, and their mom sold them on Ebay. We also rarely see them on Christmas Eve or Christmas, and if we do it's after they've already s... Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:12:35 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5168167 This morning there was a show on the Science channel called "Machine Made," that had a segment on how bowling balls are made. I've been bowling in leagues for years, so of course that caught my interest. Well, a "tip" flashed on the screen that said you should choose a ball that's roughly 10% of your body weight... uh, oh, they don't MAKE them in that weight (never mind I can't throw a 16-pound ball)! So, I guess I'll have to reverse the formula for yet another reason to be motivated -- I... Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:21:45 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5151143 Many years ago (26, to be exact, but who's counting), when I was going through a divorce and at the absolute low point of my life, wallowing in despair and self pity, lying on the couch, crying, and half watching TV, a show - maybe 60 minutes, or something similar - came on, showing children in a cancer ward, facing devastating disease and sometimes even more devastating treatment. That show brought back to me the words I heard from my dad when I was much, much younger, on more than one occa... Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:22:56 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5144696 Totally out of control today -- as in, I consumed just about twice the calories that I should have. The easy way out is to blame the stress of a funeral today, memorial service tomorrow, and a 2nd funeral coming up on Monday -- which is all real enough! However, in the end I have to just realize that there are other ways to deal with the stress and other difficult situations, and stay focused on my goals. The really scary thing is that the way I ate (and drank) today is pretty much the way... Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:19:49 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5140918 So, I have this old denim shirt that I put on when I color my hair. I've had it for years, but I don't think I have ever been able to button it across my belly... but today, guess what? Yep, that's right -- I now can! Amazing how good such a small thing can make me feel -- but it takes a lot of small steps to reach the end of the journey, and we need to celebrate each and every one of them!! <BR> <BR> <em>211</em> Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:31:57 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5135138 From SP resources - 10 steps to healthy lifestyle <link>www.sparkpeople.com/resource/mind_ov<BR>er_body_fat.asp </link> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:48:56 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5132961 Started week #2 of the "5K Your Way" walking program today -- I'm so happy I started this, because it is really making me stick to my plan to increase my walking time and distance, I'm afraid otherwise I would really be slacking off! Our weather has been so gloomy and uninspiring -- I desperately need some sunshine, even if it's cold out. But, I should be used to this, I've lived in the UP since the early 1970s. So get over it, already! At any rate, today's challenge was to walk 25 contin... Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:53:59 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5127259 No, not THAT closet. I wanted to wait until I felt like I was making some progress and was going to stick with my plan (at least pretty much) before I talked with my husband about what I was actually doing, although of course he couldn't help but notice that I have cut way, way back on drinking and have been eating smaller portions than previously, as well as using the treadmill pretty regularly. Yesterday we were sitting at our local bar and grill, having a drink and discussing some local ... Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:53:11 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5126511 Did you get out and vote today? I'm very fortunate to live in a rural area where you rarely have to wait long to vote, can't believe the long lines of voters they are showing on TV. Not sure I normally would wait that long to vote, but this year I definitely would have! Now all that's left is to see what the results are... Tue, 6 Nov 2012 18:47:12 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5125200 11/5/12 Started my first week of the "5K your way" walking training program yesterday -- yesterday's challenge was to "walk 5 minutes continuously," which was no problem and I tried pushing my speed up a bit from my usual (which is a rather pathetic 22-25 minutes/mile, but that's why I'm doing this!). Today was a "cross-training or rest" day, so I walked half an hour. I'm doing all of this on my treadmill, there's no way I'm going to stick with it if I have to walk outside in the weather we... Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:45:58 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5118970 <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/7/1/l717829314.jpg"> <BR> <BR> This was the Spark Quote of the day on my ipod a few days ago... why do I love it so much? Because it is encouraging in a couple of different ways -- <BR> <BR> When I first read it, and read the "quote reflection," the meaning seemed to be that if you think you are going to lose the battle you have already taken the first steps in that direction, which is kind of a negative reinforcement. But as I thought more ... Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:58:42 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5118178 Well, I knew this was bound to happen... the last few days, although not wildly out of control, I have not felt the drive to make the changes I know I need to make. Haven't been exercising (although I've been doing quite a bit of garden clean-up, I know I have to develop a habit of structured exercise) and basically feel like a slug on a rock! On top of that, this chilly and blustery weather is making me want to cook (worse yet, EAT) all the typical comfort foods -- mashed potatoes, mac & ... Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:03:59 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5112650 Posted the question of how to get more potassium in my diet on the community nutrition board and had suggestions of bananas, baked potato, and avocados -- all rich in K+. <BR> <BR> I did pretty well with breakfast this morning, with yogurt mixed with 1/4 cup of Grape-Nuts, plus a cup of orange juice, for over 800 mg - which is more than my tracker has shown for many days in total. Did discover that a number of the items I've been tracking are not giving a value for potassium content, so tha... Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:51:25 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5111051 Very excited to step on the scales this morning and see the number 239.8 !! (officially 10 pounds down now since starting on 9/12/2012). This was made even sweeter by the fact that my plan for dinner last night was thrown out of whack when, after carefully planning my calories to stay at a fairly minimal 1300 for the day (my goal is set at 1200-1500 daily), we were invited to join my husband's sister and her husband to go out to eat for their anniversary. This was just to our local bar & g... Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:28:56 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5106922 No tracking, no exercise, no weighing in, too much drinking of alcohol and not nearly enough water, too much sodium, too much fatty and high-carb food, too many calories! In short, very difficult to keep things anywhere near my goals and intentions during the week of having house guests, a funeral, and various family gatherings. On the upside, I still somehow managed to lose a pound over the course of the week and now can pick up where I left off and get back on track, at least until the ne... Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:40:57 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5098567 Trying to not let down my guard during this stressful few days of dealing with my mother-in-law's death. Spent a good part of yesterday with the other family members talking to the funeral director, discussing the funeral/mass/luncheon/burial arrangements, and cleaning her stuff out of the nursing home room. Felt like I ate too much -- fast food at Wendy's for lunch, several mixed drinks in the evening, etc. Weighed myself this morning and I was up 0.2 pounds from last Wednesday, my "offic... Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:12:39 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5097732 Last night my wonderful, 100-year-old mother-in-law passed away. Just two months ago we had a huge party to celebrate her 100th birthday, actually 3 parties - one at her nursing home, one for family (which consisted of something like 85 people who came from near and far to honor her), and one at the VFW, where she had been a member for many years, where many old friends stopped by to wish her well. At that time she was doing well and knew everyone there and had a wonderful time; then in the... Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:16:07 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5093797 One month in and down another pound, to 242.0. Even with the vacation indiscretions I'm still below the projected line for achieving my goal of losing 90 pounds by the end of next August. Wow -- I keep visualizing what a change that would be, still almost unimaginable to me at this point, and yet I'm still feeling completely confident in being able to follow my plan and get there. I feel sure I can stick with this, because I'm not really changing anything all that radically, just giving mo... Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:05:38 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5092033 Put on my snug-but-wearable jeans tonight and found they were actually kind of baggy in the rear -- sweet! Have only lost about 6 out of 250 pounds, but I think the walking is starting to have some effect. A small but tangible bit of progress -- doin' the happy dance!! <BR> <BR> <em>30</em> Mon, 8 Oct 2012 23:01:34 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5086544 Although my ultimate goal is to lose 90 pounds over the course of a year, I've realized that I need some smaller goals to shoot for to keep me focused; otherwise, known procrastinator that I am, I'm more than likely to expect to lose the last 50 pounds in the last 2 weeks! <BR> <BR> Just looking at these in writing is already giving me more motivation! <BR> <BR> <em>224</em> <BR> <BR> 10 pounds lost: (by end of 10/2012?) -- ACHIEVED 10/24/2012 -- bought a new pair of cross-trainer sho... Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:05:25 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5085110 <img src="http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/4/3/l431062279.jpg"> <BR> <BR> Today was, unfortunately, my day to weigh in -- the first day after coming home from vacation -- and as I feared, I have gone up... however, only about a pound, and all things considered that doesn't seem too bad! <BR> <BR> So, while this is a little bit of a setback, I feel very positive about it. I know I can get back on track now, there's no question in my mind about that. I had a good time visiting with f... Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:27:05 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5080054 Did better today -- yes, even at Cracker Barrel you can eat reasonably sensibly! I had apple streusel french toast and a side of vanilla yogurt with a little granola and apple slices in it. It was great and we ate in the late morning so it was breakfast and lunch combined; then had dinner at my niece's house of grilled steak, sweet corn and mac and cheese -- much easier to control the portions when you serve them to yourself! Only went a little over the calories today, I could definitely b... Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:01:28 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5079344 I knew being away from home was going to be a challenge -- and apparently I wasn't quite ready for it! I've gone way over my calorie count two days in a row, largely due to the fact that I caved in and had several mixed drinks each day. (Oh, and then there were also the 3 Cheddar Bay biscuits at Red Lobster last night...) I really didn't even want to put a post here about it, but I hope putting it down here in writing will make me get back to business. Maybe... but why, oh why, did I agr... Sat, 29 Sep 2012 09:47:43 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5075550 Two weeks have gone by already and today was my "official" day to get on the scales (I've been cheating a little and weighing myself one other time during the week). The number was even better than I had hoped for -- 243.0, which is down 7 pounds since I started. <BR> <BR> <em>244</em> <BR> <BR> I know I can't expect to lose 3-1/2 pounds/week on a continuing basis -- 1-1/2 to 2 would be great in my mind -- but very encouraging in that this is obviously working for me. And really, bei... Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:03:16 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5073563 Yesterday I woke up full of energy, then by mid afternoon it was all gone -- granted, I had done several loads of laundry and scrubbed the kitchen floor, but the way I felt seemed really disproportionate to what I had done. I did make myself walk for 15 minutes at least... but then today, despite actually getting a really good night's sleep, I was crashing even earlier! And although I made and canned 5-1/2 quarts of tomato juice, I decided by that time to blow off the walking. <BR> <BR> So... Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:10:11 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5071463 I worked as a medical transcriptionist for many years before retiring a year and a half ago; during the course of that time I transcribed many dictations by surgeons who described fat obscuring their view and making the surgery more difficult, having to use special longer instruments, and just generally increasing the difficulty of surgery and the length of time the surgery took. I don't want that to be me! <BR> <BR> <em>20</em> Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:47:37 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5070437 A. Are you at all artistic? <BR> I've done quite a bit of stained glass work in the past, and enjoy a lot of different crafts. <BR> <BR> B. What are your favorite burger toppings? <BR> Lettuce, big slice of tomato from the garden, ketchup, Miracle Whip and a little horseradish. <BR> <BR> C. If you were a crayon, what color would you be? <BR> Green <BR> <BR> D. Diamond or pearls? <BR> Pearls, although not much of a jewelry wearer. <BR> <BR> E. What exotic pet would you like to have? ... Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:59:23 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5069796 First night of bowling league tonight and was able to continue my "no alcohol" policy with no problem... this is a big accomplishment in that bowling and drinking have gone hand-in-hand as long as I can remember, and most of my friends there drink. I don't plan to never have another drink, but while I'm trying to lose weight I know from past experience it is my best policy -- and it's actually easier for me to have none than to limit myself to 1 or 2, because then the next thing that happen... Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:26:26 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5066096 To feel better about myself in general. <BR> <BR> To enjoy a long and happy retirement with my husband. <BR> <BR> To increase and maintain strength and mobility, which are essential to remaining independent as we age. <BR> <BR> To enjoy shopping for clothes again. <BR> <BR> To get on an airplane and not wonder if this is the time that I'll have to ask for a seatbelt extension. <BR> <BR> To hopefully get off my blood pressure meds. <BR> <BR> To get back into a favorite pair of jeans that... Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:06:54 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5063971 Walked again today (after taking Sunday off -- but I spent at least half an hour out in the garden, harvesting pumpkins and zucchini) -- walked for 25 minutes today, up from 20; after 5 I thought I might only get to 10, but then my legs quit complaining and I just continued on. Doesn't seem that walking 1 mile should be that difficult, but I find the sustained pace on a treadmill to be harder than just 'walking.' Anyway, happy with myself because the temptation to just blow off the walk tod... Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:33:08 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5060565 Yesterday my husband suggested going out for a "fish fry" dinner -- popular here on Fridays -- at our local bar & grill. Well, that sounded great, except... I normally would get deep-fried perch, french fries or baked potato, coleslaw, roll, and several mixed drinks, which didn't seem like it was too likely to keep me within my goal calories of 1200-1550. Thought I would be hanging my head in remorse once I entered my meal into my food tracker, but no! I had grilled shrimp, coleslaw, a di... Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:04:42 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5059010 I got on the treadmill and walked for 20 minutes! Granted, it was only at 2.5 mph, but just getting myself going feels like a huge accomplishment. I am SO motivated right now, and know that the day will come, and probably soon, that I will be sorely tempted to backslide... when that happens I will come to the SP site and look for inspiration! <BR> <BR> I was so tempted to step on the scales again this morning because I just wanted to see that number below 250 again... but I didn't do it, ... Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:40:22 EST http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=5058348 This is my 2nd day here and I'm still trying to get my bearings and become comfortable moving around the site -- there are so many great features to check out! I feel confident that with the support here I'll be able to remain motivated for the long haul and finally losing the weight I've gained and gaining the strength I've lost over the years. <BR> <BR> I was very happy to weigh myself this morning and find myself 0.4 lbs below my "starting weight" -- which I put in quotes because when I ... Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:46:41 EST