If You Are Concerned About Health Care.
Tuesday, September 10, 2013
Sharing Barb's blog...was a great one
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS...
At age 76 when you most need it, you are not eligible for cancer
see page 272
What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare
bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so
that we can see what's in it."
Well, here it is.
Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number
THE CARE BILL HB 3200
JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.
Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB320
Please read this........ especially the reference to pages 58 & 59
JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to
all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an
individual's bank account and will have the authority to make
electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the
government) for all union members, union retirees and for
community organizations (such as the Association
of Community Organizations for Reform Now -
Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section
will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their
right mind come up with that?)
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same
regardless of specialty, and the government will set all
Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care
according to the patient's age.
Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on
hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an
Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care
planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be
required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five
years. (Death counseling..)
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify
which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:
"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to
members of Congress. Members of Congress are already
exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded
private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on
our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick
'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future."
- Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls , Texas
Hope you are as concerned as I am about this,
Member Comments About This Blog Post
NONE OF THIS IS TRUE.
Check out Snopes.com, FactCheck.org, or any other reliable rumor debunking website. This is one of those viral fake e-mails.
To start with, it says right at the top that it's about "HB 3200." HR 3200 was a bill that never passed. The health care bill that passed and became law is HR 3590.
Even if you go and find HR 3200, most of what's in this e-mail is a series of lies about that bill. We'll just look at the first and the last:
Page 50 doesn't say anything about illegal immigrants. It says you can't be denied care for any personal characteristic-- in other words, they can't refuse to give you insurance because you're fat or female or black. (However, page 143 specifically says that anyone who is not in the country legally is NOT eligible for any part of the system. So this is a double lie.)
The thing about banks accounts just says that insurance companies would be ALLOWED to set up online bill pay. It's the company, not the government, and it's just electronic transfer like many of us use to pay phone bills, AND nobody would have to use it, any more than you have to pay your phone bill on line.
Page 425-429 talk about VOLUNTARY end-of-life counseling and orders. It means that IF YOU CHOOSE while you're still healthy to have a meeting with your doctor or a specialist counselor to talk about what kinds of extreme measures you do or do not want when the time comes, and get help writing it all down in the way doctors will understand, your insurance has to pay for the appointment. No one would be required to go.
So... Number 1, this has nothing to do with the actual healthcare law. It's all about a bill that didn't pass. Number 2, it's not even true anyway.
You can get your own copy of the Affordable Care Act and check it all out for yourself. It's very easy to find. Google "Affordable Care Act" and take the link from gpo.gov. GPO is the Government Printing Office-- that's the final, official version. Yes, it's 900 pages, but there's a very good index and you can search the text for keywords. You can also get a copy of HR 3200 and check all these page references to see that they're mostly lies.
And really, any time someone sends you something talking about a bill or law, just google the reference number. A lot of these e-mails are complete hoaxes; they'll name a bill and when you look it up, it's not even about the same topic. They'll say there's a bill that would require everyone to own a dog, and the number is actually a bill about how often city sewer systems have to be inspected. If it turns out that the number is real, then it's easy to get your own copy of the bill and see whether it really says what they claim it says.
Oh, and bills in the US House are designated HR, not HB. If you see something listed as HB, either it's a reference to a bill in one of the state legislatures, or it's suspect because someone along the email chain doesn't know the difference between HB and HR. If they changed that, they probably changed other things.
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I so agree ladies.
1182 days ago
It is going to happen unless you tell them to stop obamacare and not fund it. It can be stopped but once it goes into effect then it is too late.
1182 days ago
Shocking is the first word that comes to mind!
This can't go through, how ridiculous, how invasive. Taking money out of our bank account!
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