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Demeaning men - not what you might expect.

Tuesday, August 27, 2013

I'm not sure if this will get censored or not. It's not meant to be rude, or offensive, but I just need somewhere to get this off my chest, and Facebook is probably not the place, seeing as my partner, daughter and friends are on there too.

It's about peeing. Specifically, about the fact that men find it demeaning to sit to pee like women do. So what does that say about how they see us? It's demeaning Because it's the way that women do it. That's all. Even gay men pee standing up, so there's even some solidarity there between homophobes and gay men. But pee like a girl? Unthinkable, unless there's a medical reason I suppose, and even then, they'd probably feel shamed and humiliated the whole time they had to do it that way.

I realise that I'm getting all het up about something so trivial most people have never even thought about it. It comes about because of my job, because of having to clean up after men who piss on the floor because they can't always aim at a urinal, or even something as large as a toilet bowl, properly. They say that it is just how it is, and it's pretty much inevitable. As is, apparently, the inability to clear it up afterwards, as if it's inevitability means it's okay to just leave it for someone else to deal with. And I was talking about this with my partner this evening and when I said 'because it's demeaning to sit like we do' , he said 'damn right'. And so now, I just want to scream, I want to roar at him What Does That Make Us? Meaning women. So many men talk about equal rights for women, how Right On they are, with us Sisters, and yet this is what they think. (I won't go into the prostate exam issue here, but that's another one that gets me furious). I don't know what to do right now, I want to go out, start running to burn off the fury. Sorry if this has offended anyone, I don't really expect anyone to read it anyway. Just needed somewhere to vent.
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FANNISHMOM 8/27/2013 8:25PM

    I'm always telling male relatives to leave my son alone because he'd rather sit to pee than stand. The only time he likes peeing standing up is if he has to do it outside. (Evidently, it is different if you can pee in the grass) My husband actually worried he'd get teased when he went off to school because he wouldn't stand and pee. Guess what? No one has said anything and he's going into second grade.

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MELAYAHM 8/27/2013 3:00PM

    Feeling quite tearful at people's comments. Jerseytaurus, yes, I know women can do it too, and not just pee, but after 3 years of doing both genders, well, where I work, it's definitely the men/boys who are worse. Time to Shine, I'm not sure it was playful, actually. But possibly it was a reaction to head off an anticipated rant on my part, unaware of how angry it made me. And GK, mine doesn't turn the light on, nor does he lift up the seat. Many's the time I've gone to the loo after him in the night and got wet backs of the thighs. Diane...???

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DIANE7786 8/27/2013 2:56PM

    Put a container of Cheerios nearby. They will never miss!

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THE_SHAKESHAFT 8/27/2013 2:36PM

    I don't have any problem with it. Especially if I'm feeling lazy or drunk :p

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GK1963 8/27/2013 2:32PM

    I am so with you on this. My step son can not seem to aim - and he is 17. It's like he stands with his hands behind his back and whistles a tune while he looks around. When he is called on it, he says ' oops sorry, my bad" ---Pardon Me????? There are constantly drips and dribbles to be cleaned up - and you can bet your sweet patootie it isn't the dripper and dribbler that does it.

And guys - if you sat down, you wouldn't have to turn the light on when you stumble into the bathroom at 2 am to make your bladder gladder.

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JERSEYTAURUS 8/27/2013 2:30PM

    Venting is a good thing. I've cleaned many a men's toilet or two in my years working in maintenance. Not fun. Yes, it's one thing to aim and miss ... but it's awful when it gets left there for someone else to deal with. Unfortunately, it happens in all bathrooms regardless of gender.

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TIME_TO_SHINE1 8/27/2013 2:27PM

    I think that maybe his Damn right might have been playful. I know my husband says that sometimes just to get me going more, its weird I know. I know what you mean about having to clean up after men who can't aim, I was a housekeeper at a hotel before. I am sorry I can't relate more this type of thing doesn't bother me much. Glad you found a place to get it off your chest though. emoticon

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