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No help from the dinnerware industry

Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Recently I decided to buy new dinnerware, the old having served for many years and being minus some items by attrition.

But, Lo and Behold, I could not find dinner plates that would fit in my dishwasher. Whereas the old dinnerware had 10 inch plates with ample borders to help me with portion control, the majority of the dinnerware on the American market today had 11 inch plates, many without borders, to hold more food and more calories. Dinnerware has expanded to accommodate our expanding portions.

In the end I purchased a pattern with large salad/lunch plates and bought some 10 1/2 inch square plates which must be inclined in the dishwasher in order that the spinner moves freely and does not bang into the plates. I was not happy with the ultimate choice size-wise, but after searching the Internet I realized that if I wanted smaller plates I would (1) have to make them myself in a pottery class (2) purchase them from abroad or (3) purchase them at thrift stores.

Do you think that the china and stoneware manufacturers are conspiring against us? Or are they accommodating our larger portion sizes? How have you handled this problem?
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BOPPY_ 3/8/2013 11:32PM

    If you watch the fancy, shmantsy cooking shows, you always see the chefs put an eye-dropper of food on a plate big enough to be used as a radio telescope dish. emoticon

I'm pleased to see that our house is not the only one that has lost plates due to "attrition" emoticon , especially since, I am, unequivocally, the "attritter". emoticon

Enjoyed the blog.

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CHINAGAL 1/31/2013 8:47AM

    Salad plates make lots of sense to me! I have also noticed the upsizing of dishes. China is one of my passions (hence the nickname Chinagal), but I'm trying to restrain myself from buying another single dish as long as I live. Although some red salad plates would look really pretty with Mom's white rose design china for Valentine's day. Somebody stop me now!!!!
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MOOKBALL 1/29/2013 2:08PM

    It may be that the dinnerware manufacturers are giving the people what they want, or is it Whirlpool, Kitchenaid and GE trying to get us to replace our perfectly fine (but now obsolete) disher for another model that accomodates the bigger dishes?

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DEMETERSCO 1/29/2013 12:57PM

    I use the salad plates - 7 inches - for my meal and only use the dinner plates as serving platters.

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NELLJONES 1/29/2013 12:54PM

    I doubt a conspiracy. Companies make money by finding out what people want then selling it to them. If bigger plates are selling, that's what they will sell. I have a set of Johnson Brothers Regency potteryware that I bought 30 years ago, and use Replacements.com to fill in the inevitable breaks of time and use.

As far as eating on small plates, I put a plate on a plate. That way the table looks nice and even, and I still use the smaller plate, or a rimmed soup on a plate. Or I can use the chef's method of making something look bigger: sauce drizzle in a pattern.

I have also noticed glasses are bigger. Sets used to be 4oz, 8 oz and 12 oz. Now they are 12, 16 and 20 oz. A single serving of any fruit juice is 4 oz, but try to find a 4 oz glass.

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JEANNE229 1/29/2013 12:34PM

    I SO agree that small plates help with the battle! We eat with our eyes, and a full plate makes for satisfaction.

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ASTRA58 1/29/2013 11:30AM

    I had noticed that myself. I keep looking for a nice everyday set of dishes that I like, but the plates are all huge. I don't think it's a conspiracy or anything like that, but I do think they may be responding to the fact that portions are also now expected to be huge.

Hopefully, as we get healthier, we can help reverse that trend, one person at a time.

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GOODWITCH333 1/29/2013 10:55AM

    I hadn't thought about this, so I took out my tape measure and measured my everyday plates (11 inch) and Great Aunt Mary's Wedgewood china (9.5") What i would call the working area of the plate, the part that isn't sloped, is 7 and 6 inches respectively

. So yes, plates are getting bigger. Is it because we want bigger plates, so that is what sells? I'm not sure.

I'm all for the purchase at a thrift store or antique market option. Having a bunch of pretty mismatched right sized plates is fun. You have favorites. You have colorful ones for energetic days and flowery ones for feminine days. You can turn it into a hobby. It's environmentally kind. It connects you to a more gracious time period. It makes setting the table a creative process. And it lets you eat off of right sized plates. It embraces the concepts of wabi-sabi.

Also, most dishwashers have a china setting on them making clean-up easier.

Embrace this opportunity.It could open a whole new door to amusement. emoticon

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GABY1948 1/29/2013 10:55AM

    WOW...I didn't know this. I have not had to buy dinnerware in years either and I guess I will guard what I have even more. And, even the ones I have I always use the luncheon size for me. I think it is all part of what the world has become...bigger does NOT always mean better, as we are all finding out now!

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INSPIRATIONAL3 1/29/2013 10:54AM

    Its interesting you said that since I concur. I have an old bone china mikas set from years ago and the plates are just right but too fancy for every day and the new set I was gifted from someone seem all plates huge. I even went out to buy a correl set that was square white and lovely pattern but plates are huge....I shopped around to find white plates that were square also but plain white.

It is a conspiracy against up since if you read Trudeaus books on what they put into out food especially the growth hormones it is no wonder our children are larger and of course our journey is made a little harder. I have resorted not only to smaller plates but I am making an effort to buy organic meats when possible and buy organic if possible for other things too. Little by little I am trying to eat cleaner but the industry is really making it difficult for us not only to lose weight but to eat healthy.

Read the books they are waxing and coloring fruits, enormous use of pesticides, chickens whose feet never touch the floor are slaughtered in 3 weeks for market being fed growth feed and injected with all kinds of hormones. Our battle to be thin and healthy is not assisted by the food industry and unfortunately the FDA is in conspiracy with them. Unfortunately, the Drug Industries with their influential lobbies has stopped the opening of many wholistic companies and will not even allow labeling that would induce you and I to go natural rather than the synthetic things they want in our body which do us harm.

Well my spark sister not meaning to sound like gloom and doom but I think a more educated consumer would be the answer. Remember a lot of the foods that contribute to our weight gain are designed to get you addicted and keep coming back coupled with our every day stresses and apathetic way toward changing things that are wrong in our food preparation they have many sheep going to slaughter. Pray God you and I are not one of them.

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ZEEDRA 1/29/2013 10:51AM

    That's interesting, Ruth.
We see so many articles and stories about the growing problem of obesity and how it affects society but I don't remember the size of plates brought into it.
It IS mentioned in diet programs and nutritionists will even tell us to use smaller plates and the same portion of food (good portion) will look bigger.


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