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Lance Armstrong: Do you forgive him?


Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Warning this is a serious blog.

I used to like Lance Armstrong. From his being the second American to win the Tour de France (Greg LeMond was the first) to his battle with testicular cancer, to his Livestrong charity, etc. I used to believe his lies.

I now despise him. I have no problem hating him. He has ruined many people’s lives with his cheating and then lying about cheating. He has sued people, newspapers and magazines who told the truth about his cheating and won huge sums of money in courts across the world. He has ruined lives. He did not have to ruin the lives of others. Lance did so to protect his public image. He ruined the lives of others for mere ego.

I could have accepted the current Lance Armstrong if he had simply not went after those telling the truth with a vengeance. He ruined many lives and now I believe he must pay for his actions.

I believe he has come forward now and talked to Oprah in the hopes that he can once again enter the public arena be forgiven and once again have the spotlight shine on him.

Since the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency report and the rider affidavits, and every advertiser on the planet and Livestrong firing Lance, he has been trying to get appearance fees at events such as triathlons. No one wants him at their event, let alone pay him to be there.

Remember in the sport of cycling in which drugs were so deeply involved, Lance had a choice not to use them. But if Lance did not use them he felt he could not win. Ego!!!!

Many have tried to compare it to the recent Tiger Woods incident. There is no comparison. Tiger Woods ruined his and his family’s lives. Tiger Woods confessed and did not ruin the live’s of his accusers while knowing the accusations were true.

Lance Armstrong did his best to ruin the life of each of his accusers.

Additional:

Based on some of the comments I want to clarify, I stated I do not HATE Lance Armstrong for taking performance enhancing drugs or for lying about it. I HATE Lance Armstrong for as I wrote "He has sued people, newspapers and magazines who told the truth about his cheating and winning huge sums of money in courts across the world. He has ruined lives. He did not have to ruin the lives of others. Lance did so to protect his public image. He ruined the lives of others for mere ego. "

Lance Armstrong tried at any cost to keep the lie going. He did not care if he financially ruined the team physical therapist when she told the truth. He got people fired from publications. He made sure that they were the ones everyone thought were the liers.

That is why I HATE Lance Armstrong.

It is your right to forgive him. Only Lance Armstrong gains from forgiveness. Those whose lives he destroyed do not.

MORE:

I am a practicing Christian (Catholic) and I know about God's forgiveness. In fact on a personal note, I am counting on God's forgiveness.

I just will not ever forgive him for the all the lives he ruined just to keep his lie going. As Lance told Oprah, he has no idea how many law suits his international team of lawyers has file across the world or the thousands of people he harmed. The only reason Lance is coming forward now is that it is affecting Lance. All his sponsors have cancelled their contracts. No business to be associated with him. In December he tried to get appearance fees to appear at Triathlons. The Triathlons told Lance they would not pay him to appear and would not allow him to enter.

In the Oprah interview, she asked Lance why he was there. His answer was because he did his Tour de' France comeback.

Lance goes not get it. It is still all about Lance. Lance thinks if he had not did his Tour de' France comeback then the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency report would not have come up with it's finding that he cheated. In Lance's view all would be good and he still would be suing any individuals, newspapers and magazines who told the truth about his cheating and winning huge sums of money in courts across the world and continuing to ruin lives. Lance would be saying that the riders who swore in and affidavits that he did performance enhancing drugs were lying.

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HELEN_BRU 2/2/2013 11:31PM

    His arrogance knew no bounds! emoticon

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A-NEW-PAULA 1/29/2013 7:00PM

    I believe the Bible says something about only having to forgive someone when they truly have a repentant life and are willing to change their behavior. I don't think he has done either, at least not for the right reasons! Did he ask for forgiveness? I didn't hear that and I watched both interviews with Lance because I wanted to hear him out. He seems angry and like he only feels sorry for himself. He seems to feel entitled to have done it because "everyone else was doing it". And I do believe he is right that pretty much everyone was doing it but he didn't have to. He said his ex wife tried to tell him the truth would set him free. I believe it will set him free from his ego eventually because he will have to define himself by other measurements besides winning "The Tour" or any competitive sports.

I don't hate him but I think you are right that there is still a price to pay to all the lives he ruined and money to pay back! If he ever seems completely truly sorry because what he has done is wrong then forgiveness will probably naturally come but I think you have a long way to go before that time comes!

Great blog!
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LINDA! 1/26/2013 10:05PM

    I agree. In Lance's world - he is the only one that matters. He certainly is not a hero and should no longer be in the limelight.

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SUECHRIS50 1/19/2013 2:53PM

    It's your right to hate him but why?Why let hate poison your soul?Sure he has done bad but,who has'nt?All the money he has given back?Give yourself and him a break and forgive his arrogant stupidity.

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TEDYBEAR2838 1/17/2013 10:18PM

    I don't hate Armstrong, but I do hate what he did. There is NO excuse that could ever make it right or even seem right.

I would have respected the man, had he told the truth when confronted.

God says we have to forgive. It does NOT mean the person is absolved from what he did, but it won't eat away at us. IT does take a burden off our shoulders.

Anyway, it's a thought provoking article you wrote. Thanks...

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2ABBYNORMAL 1/17/2013 3:39PM

    First of all, I want to say emoticon for this great blog.
I enjoy blogs that are open discussions on events going on in the world today. It is refreshing to read something other than funny stories, cute pictures, jokes, diet and exercise. I enjoy these, don't get me wrong, but this type of blog opens up discussion and various viewpoints that I so long to read about.
I am in total agreement with you except I don't hate him.
What he has done is without question the lowest of low.
I don't feel sorrow or pity for him.
Hate is such a strong word. But I despise him for his actions. Again, he is among the many of the "Lowest of Low."
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ARCHIMEDESII 1/17/2013 11:06AM

    Marty, you do bring up a good point about the libel suits. I'd forgotten about that. He did successfully sue many people and received quite a bit in judgments. I know the lawsuits are already piling up. I don't think his sponsors (Nike, Trek, etc) can get their endorsement money back. Considering how much money they made off of him over the years, they more than got their monies worth.

However, the people he sued in court do have a good case now. I've read that one reason Lance came clean (pardon the pun) was because of the statue of limitations. So, you do have to wonder how many cases can be brought against him in light of his admission to doping.

I just don't see how he can rebuild his career as an athlete. People may forgive him, but as an athlete he's ruined. As a person he's morally bankrupt.





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BEACHLOVR 1/17/2013 11:00AM

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MISSUSRIVERRAT 1/17/2013 6:49AM

    I agree with you. He's a snake in the grass and it appears he is only "coming clean" now because it is to his personal or financial advantage somhow.


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TATTER3 1/17/2013 6:05AM

    You reap what you sow. So sad that he had no deeper ethical foundation to stand on. Don't want to see his soul lost....but he is just one example of the skewed views of a society with no spiritual depth. Our actions do effect other people and we do have a responsibility to live appropriate lives that enhance rather than destroy our life interactions. He will be shamed all of his days. He could have made it so different.
Appreciate your blog! Keep Sparkin'!!!

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MOONSTORMER 1/17/2013 2:31AM

    definitely agree! no comparison with tiger woods - he lied in his private life, not about who he is as a sportsman. lance lied about everything and ruined those people who said the truth

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MYTURN11 1/16/2013 10:56PM

    I agree with you ~ this is very disappointing. His ego was and continues to be the ruin of him and saddest of all is that his ego has hurt so many others.

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ANDYLIN90 1/16/2013 9:24PM

    I feel betrayed, disappointed and saddened, but I don't hate him. I think losing his medals was absolutely appropriate and I think there should be financial penalties also. I will watch Oprah's interview with him.

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TUBLADY 1/16/2013 5:52PM

    I'm sorry you feel you have to HATE him now for what he has confessed to.
Hate is a strong work, it's a emotion that eats away at the person who hates.
I hope you can feel disappointment in believing Lance and now your faith in him is gone. But is it worth you hating, I don't think any other person is worth my hating them.
Was I disappointed , YES. But I can understand.
I understand in most sports, very competitive and expensive there are people taking drugs or supplements to enhance their performance. Every time one drug is found another is developed.
It happens in all sports. Some of our beloved sport figures have used enhancing drugs. Baseball, football, tennis, Olympics. etc.
What it does is take the fairness away from some one who doesn't use.
What Lance did with the money and his foundation I admire. You can't take that away from him. Even if he's not involved now it will continue to do good.
Sometimes we never know what we would do if in certain positions until we are faced with the choice.
Maybe my 71 years have made me more tolerant toward those aren't perfect.
I hope Lance can redeem himself and continue to work toward helping kids and get the word out that doping in sports or any athletic event isn't the way to go.
Take care,
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DEBBIEANNE1124 1/16/2013 4:24PM

    Whatever happpened to "Natural Honest winning"? It's jsut not there anymore.

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BEATRIZ269 1/16/2013 4:11PM

    Thank you for articulating so well what we all feel. The betrayal to the American Public time and time again is unforgivable. All for his ego.

Thank you for writing this.

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JASONV33 1/16/2013 3:05PM

  I have been a cycling fan for a long time and must confess to not been much of a Lance fan, his personality has never been one that I really liked. Though I did get sucked into his comeback story in the early years and wanted to believe him and his story.

The stories about him even as he was rising through the ranks of junior level racing and his attitude was not something that I enjoyed to see in an athlete from any sport. Though it seems we embrace those who are brash and arrogant especially when they are able to back up their talk with action and win races.

My love for the sport began prior to Greg LeMond winning his first tour in 1986. Doping has been around for a long time in this sport and all the other sports. I still maintain that cycling has done more than almost any other sport to fight doping.

My biggest disappointment in Lance is similar to that of many other people in power such CEOs and the like that know of a problem, have the ability and power to do something about it and yet do nothing to make things better! We are not bound by legal obligation to make anything better around us, but I contend we have a moral obligation to make things better when we have the power to do it. Especially when someone has made so much money from a company or a sport. Lance made his comeback after a huge doping scandal in 1998 at the Tour and since that time evidently did nothing to help the sport that has made him a millionaire fight the war against doping!

We are all human and it can be said that most of us fall short of what we could become and how much good we can contribute to the world around us. This story just seems to be yet another warning to the rest of us, not to squander the gifts we are given.

Jason

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WALKINGMAMMA 1/16/2013 2:56PM

    Well, firstly, I am not shocked! I have never been a very big fan of ANY of the big wig athletes.... I much prefer the back of the pack ordinary people who have battled many things to get there for the simple pleasure of the sport. emoticon emoticon

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.DUSTY. 1/16/2013 2:54PM

    I agree with a few others that we tend to idolize and make heroes out of sports figures, singers, models, actors, etc.

We need to look closer to home for our heroes. Or maybe look to ourselves:)

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ARCHIMEDESII 1/16/2013 2:41PM

    I have very mixed opinions. On the one hand, I wanted to believe he rode clean. BUT, I also know that cycling is a heavily doped up sport. Why take performance enhancing drugs when you're one of the best riders in the world ? I'm not saying it's right, but I understand why they do it. This is my analogy.

Let's take a group of high school seniors applying to college. The top students all want to get into the best schools. So, let's say that Cal Tech accepts 50 high school valedictorians. This student has always been A+. They are used to being number one. Okay, now they are at Cal Tech in a room full of other A+ students. How do you stand out in a room full of other A+ students ? In some cases, you cheat. Why ? Because in America everyone loves a winner. Winners get endorsements. Winners get money. Lance Armstrong made millions from his seven Tour wins as well as tens of millions from endorsements.

The riders in the Tour are just like that room of A+ students at Cal Tech. They are all A+ students looking for that "edge" that will get them ahead and get them those endorsements.

Cycling is an expensive sport. One Tour bike costs $10,000.00. training costs hundreds of thousands. In order to get sponsors, you need to WIN. So, yes, I understand how enticing taking a performance enhancing drug can be to someone looking to make money.

Is it right ? Nope, but I understand.

Basically, if you want to make cycling and many other sports clean again, you have to take away the MONEY that is tied to the sport. Look at the Olympics. Look at how jacked those athletes are. Think they aren't taking drugs ? they are too. The problem is the science hasn't caught them yet. The science eventually caught up to Lance.

I wonder what Floyd Landis is thinking or doing right now. He has a pretty good libel case against Lance now.

So, personal opinion ? I think Lance has done some great work with his Livestrong foundation. BUT, I think he was pretty arrogant thinking he could get away with it too.

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NSTARSMITH 1/16/2013 2:34PM

    Wow, did you ever get a HUGE response to this! I am blown away by how vehement people are about this. I am NOT into sports so I was not aware of the scandal. I sure get why people are upset, now that I have learned what he did. Of course, I am a psychotherapist by trade and I tend to see people as deeply flawed and consider it from a position of compassion. BUT ... there is still his karma to consider, using all those people and resources and all the money he made ...

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MCLYMORE 1/16/2013 2:32PM

    Great blog Marty; I totally agree. So many others have voiced my opinion in previous comments. It is a shame and he should not be rewarded for bad behavior.

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JUNEAU2010 1/16/2013 2:26PM

    I withheld judgment at the beginning of the entire sordid story. At first, I was certain he was innocent. After all, how could he take those drugs after having battled cancer? Then, as the stories started to come out, I began to tune out, not wanting to hear more. I have not followed this latest chapter other than what has been unavoidable in the headlines.

I used to watch the "Tour de Lance" and thoroughly enjoyed it. Not so any more. I feel betrayed. I refuse to go farther down that path at this point because there is enough going on in my own life without his mess.

I do feel for those who have been hurt.

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IGSBETH 1/16/2013 2:24PM

    Honestly, I'm meh on the whole thing.

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CHUBRUB3 1/16/2013 2:24PM

    Great blog Marty, you put it right out there. I found I agree totally with what you are saying.
Thanks,
Angela


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RJSAMS 1/16/2013 2:20PM

    Agreed. He is not really sorry--he sees an advantage to himself in coming forward now; in fact, he made sure to get a back-door agreement to being able to compete in other sports before he actually "confessed."

On the other hand, I can forgive even tho I don't like him and don't believe him. But the whole situation is so sick and so sad.

It is also a telling commentary on how the general public treats celebrity: sports figures and others. We venerate them and place them on pedestals, and many just do not have the moral fortitude to withstand the pressure-cooker. We treat them like gods and then act surprised when they are human after all.

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BAMAJAM 1/16/2013 2:19PM

  Lance Armstrong should reap the consequences of his shameful actions. This appears to be a man without shame, however. He may even relish his "stardom" with Oprah.
There are lots of scoundrels without a conscience. There is a TV program, "American Greed" where the con artists swindle victims of life savings. Sometimes they are apprehended and charged with crimes, but seldom do the victims re-coup their loss!

Another shameful but "shameless" guy is Al Gore. His conduct is all about greed, no matter what the consequences for our nation. This scoundrel can be the subject of another blog... ( a sericous one also)

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BARCLE 1/16/2013 2:17PM

    So disappointed in him, so, so disappointed

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INFLATED 1/16/2013 2:13PM

    I never cared for him and never followed his accomplishments or any of this. The Bible warns that "and be sure your sin will find you out." Numbers 32:23, the last part of the verse. I am a sinner, but I know that God knows what I do. Some live as though there are no consequences to their actions.

He is a cheater. He got paid endorsements for being the best. All is not always as it seems, and it was all about him.

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SOKKERNUT 1/16/2013 2:01PM

    I am with KANSASROSE67 it could not have said it any better.

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BOVEY63 1/16/2013 1:57PM

    Great blog Marty! I felt disappointment too.

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NEELIXNKES 1/16/2013 1:06PM

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CAMAEL100 1/16/2013 12:50PM

    I agree. He is only coming out now in an effort to get back to earn more money! Also he was a role model for young kids. What a person for them to be looking up to.

Why didn't he speak out against drugs in cycling? Maybe help clean up the sport.


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CRYSTALJEM 1/16/2013 11:56AM

    Agreed.

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KANSASROSE67 1/16/2013 11:54AM

    His arrogance has been unbelievable throughout. I agree with you that he is only coming forward now because he sees some advantage to himself in doing so. Otherwise, why invite further scrutiny and embarrassement?

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KITTY_M 1/16/2013 11:37AM

    I agree completely. His lies plus suing of those who told the truth hurt a LOT of people.

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LAURIE5658 1/16/2013 11:31AM

    Very well put and I agree!

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JACKIE542 1/16/2013 10:54AM

    I was never a fan. Just hope some of the good causes he was working for don't suffer.

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JILLITA55 1/16/2013 10:51AM

    A great Blog! Thanks for sharing.

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CELESTE_B 1/16/2013 10:48AM

    Like you, I'm really disappointed in his character...He was such a role model...and like you said....going above and beyond to defend his lying.

Horrible....the lives he destroyed in his wake can never be repaired...but at least the people will be able to have the satisfaction that it was a lie...

wonder what's next for all involved....

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MYLADY4 1/16/2013 10:44AM

    Agree

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KJDINSC 1/16/2013 10:37AM

    Marty, I agree with you. Very well said. He not only hurt people, he profited from doing so. --KJD

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TINAJANE76 1/16/2013 10:27AM

    I'm with you. The level of arrogance he's shown throughout this has been astounding.

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