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FEEL ALONE !!! in a bootcamp

Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Well eating NORMAL foods wasn't working. I wasn't feeling any better, in fact I kept feeling worse and worse, weaker, feeling like crap. It was time to make a major change.

SO I WENT RAW. It's not new to me. I have done it in the past, but this time I feel like it is making a major difference in how I feel. Maybe it is because I have gotten sicker over the years.

I experimented several days eating the prescribed raw fruit diet with some greens. I felt great eating this type of food, it was challenging trying to get up to 1200 calories just eating fruit and veggies. No nuts other than hemp nuts were allowed. My stomach was stuffed. I wasn't hungry, but I still got cravings for some cooked foods like cheese.

When I added in cooked foods, even one meal a day the MS acted up big time. It hit so hard that I slept for a couple of days straight. I could barely walk after eating some of my meals. When I read the ingredients on the package, I realized all those added ingredients were contributing to my poor health.

When I went back on the raw foods, the symptoms decreased. My energy improved greatly and my overall strength improves a bit, my balance is better, I can walk further. It's Enough that it gives me HOPE that if I stick to this that the MS symptoms will go away or at least be more manageable. It feels like the diet is decreasing the inflammation in my body. Hopefully it will start repairing itself, rebuilding the nervous system.

I signed up for the Raw Food Boot Camp hoping for support. It's an expensive on-line program which I had hoped would make a difference in my commitment in eating raw food, providing wisdom, new ideas, new friends, good recipes, ways to combine food to help me feel better. You know a girl always needs great low-calorie tasty raw food ideas. You get the idea. I wanted support in reaching my goals.

The group I was put with was the under 35BMI. I learned afterwards the owner prefers to work with extremely obese ladies and will be discontinuing the under 35 group. She says her true passion lays with the obese. I don't know if she really applied herself to encouraging and motivating this under 35BMI group. Maybe it was reserved for the obese group, with her true passion. There were maybe 3 ladies there in the under 25 BMI group. So there was not much activity at all in the group. The only action that happened was doing out mandatory postings. If you didn't post you would be kicked out with no refund. They keep your money whether or not you post or if they kick you out of the program.

We had a short under 15 min. audio that we listened to 5 days a week. Some inspirational others not so much. We had daily discussions to post in, but there wasn't really a discussion among us ladies of how we were really doing. Of course we have our three times a week weigh in, but not much discussion among members. Some days only one person posted. I figured why bother to post much. Then I started posting more hoping that someone else would post so we could cheer each other on. Well, I am still hoping for support.

We also kept a discussion with the group leader of our exercise and diet. I figured the accountability would help out. Being hit with MS, I had told her my workouts were a struggle due to weakness and pain issues. I had hoped I could keep up with the required TWO hours of walking a day, when I struggled to do 20-30 minutes. Even with breaking down the workouts - into sparks, I couldn't do it. My feet hurt too much with that many hours of walking, my muscles were weak due to the decreased ability of my nervous system to send the messages to my legs to move. It wasn't a lack of desire, but more of a lack of ability to complete the requirements. There was a few days I was able to do the two hours of walking, but the next few days I couldn't sand up without assistance. My body was so weak from overdoing it, I couldn't be consistent with the exercise. So I went back to doing shorter 30 min. walks and moving as often as possible through out the day.

My wallet is smaller from paying her the just under $200 for a place to post what I have eaten and my workouts for 6 weeks. I was not impressed. (I could of done it here for free.) I was lucky if she wrote a sentence a day to me. When I ate garbanzo beans I posted oops, as they are cooked. Her reply was there is no oops, it is a choice. Yes, I made the choice to eat them on my salad, but I really would of loved to have heard more from her. I thought it would discuss things like she mentioned about dealing with cravings, temptations, healthy substitutes, great ideas about dieting, and other workouts that I could do without overdoing it, honestly. At least it seemed like she mentioned this. When I was pondering if I should sign up for the program I emailed her asking questions. She was very friendly and prompt with the responses, but online, on her site after paying the fee I get one or two sentences remarks. Heck, where is the support?

Maybe joining the raw food boot camp made me stronger by realizing I don't have to have anyone else cheering me on. (Though I would love the cheering.) I realized that it is totally up to me to make the changes, to be accountable, to post my meals and exercise. That isn't a surprise. I already knew that. It's just I had hoped for support from others eating in the same way as I was and some more knowledge as to the ins and out, nutritional support, knowledge. It wasn't there.

Due to my frustration, I hit the books reading, trying to figure out the nutritional puzzle alone. I ended up spending more money on books searching for low calorie, low fat foods. Even thought it is great to eat a meal of 4 nectarines, or 3 oranges, or a watermelon I wanted some recipes and understanding the ins and outs of how the raw food diet worked. Money that I shouldn't of spent, being that I spent it on the boot camp. Sigh.

I came to realize that no matter what diet one chooses on there journey they are all hypothesis or educated guesses on how to loose weight and improve your health, otherwise why would there be so many dang diet books out there? (After all in nursing school in all the pharmacological classes all the books said they HYPOTHESIS how medication worked. Ya, they sell all that stuff to the population without know how they act fully. It's all a guess.) I know this is off topic, but when I spoke to the instructors they said they really don't know how medications work, it's all hypothesis or an educated guess.

Posting on Spark, I get more support than I ever did on that expensive program. It was a learning experience. I learned that that all the flashy ads and photos can be deceiving about all the people who lost weight. It wasn't worth the expense.

Here is where my friends and support system is.

So off to another day of Raw food. Experimenting with making low-calorie healthy meals that fill me up.

I made these raw almond peanut butter cookies.

I also made some raw chocolate macaroons.

Followed by Chocolate Ganache. YUM !!! The raw Cacao made me hyper so I got lots of house cleaning done! It only took a teeny tiny piece to totally keep me on track with the diet. Everything else was fresh fruit and veggies. Today I am down 4 pounds.

  Member Comments About This Blog Post:

RAFFERM 7/4/2012 8:57AM

  Sometimes you have to go backward in order to move forward!

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QUIDDITCHGRRL 6/29/2012 12:33PM

    Glad you're back to Spark! I agree with your other poster - call Visa/MC and complain and ask for a refund for false advertising.

Also, please, PLEASE take care of yourself with exercise. One size does not fit all when you have a chronic condition, as we all know. Take it easy and do what you can do without worrying about following someone else's program to the letter.

Those raw desserts look great! :D

Good luck!

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_LINDA 6/29/2012 12:57AM

    Congratulations on the weight loss! Way to go finding out what works for YOU. Its all about that after all, the bonus is if it helps keep the MS monster at bay. Most of my diet is raw fruits and veggies, I don't care for a whole lot else. I am not a bread or cereal fan. I never get sick and my RA is not too bad.
If you run a search you will find raw food Spark team I am sure.
Sorry you learned an expensive lesson with that group. I have never gotten support like I have right here on Sparks..
Keep up the great work!!

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RYDERB 6/28/2012 6:53PM

    I'd be calling my Visa company and filing a complaint under "product not as described" I'm so sorry that you didn't get what you paid for. But at least you obviously have lots of Spark Support! Good luck figuring out what works best for your body. I hope you find more answers and more support everyday.
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ESMERELDA1220 6/27/2012 6:28PM

    Everyone looses weight differently and foods react differently to everybody...sort of like medications...
In nursing school they taught us a simplistic form of what diabetes I and II and there is so much more to diabetes nowadays...I believe for people who are eating between 1200-1500 calories a day and not loosing weight are insulin resistant...those were never spoken way back it's a big thing...
I'm glad you went on this journey to find out what works best for you...and I'm glad you are here with us...sorry you had to put out the money....but it's a lesson you won't forget and passed on to us...

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    Thank you for the interesting post, and congratulations on finding something that works for YOU.


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JOURNEY-2-JOY 6/27/2012 3:17PM

    I'm glad you found something that helps your MS symptoms. Sorry about the poor experience with the website you joined. Sparkpeople is the best! Good luck to you in figuring out your raw foods diet!

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TRAVELISMYGAME 6/27/2012 10:56AM

    Sparkpeople is the best support group that I've even been involved in. I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get what you needed after paying that much money. Hopefully you learned some great lessons that you can carry with you into the future and maybe pass along to your Sparkfriends!

Best of luck to you!

10k Leader

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DANIKAYOGA 6/27/2012 9:12AM

    Great job! I noticed anytime I eat cooked food I get terrible flare ups of Fibromyalgia. Almost to the point I cannot walk and my legs give out or I drop anything I touch. Raw is the only thing that has helped me. It's great to here it's improving your MS. I will keep you in my prayers.

That's a lot of money to do that challenge. I'm doing a 30 day raw challenge by Freelee and it's great,free and I've already made some friends.

I would suggest to get more calories from fruit and less from nuts/seeds. I have eaten over 4,000 calories and lose weight without even exercising. Cutting calories in the long run will do lots of damage. Getting enough calories will help you stay raw in the long run, reduce cravings and give you amazing clear energy. Aim for a minimum of 2,500. More if your doing a lot of exercise.

Megan Elizabeth has some great cook books and has a youtube channel. She's a really down to earth great person. I'm planning on making her Grandmas no-oatmeal cookies. That is if I can stop eating all the mulberries.

Here's her site.

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NOCALORIES 6/27/2012 12:22AM

    Have agood time being back Sparking. There is lots of help here just use it.

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SPARKLE1908 6/26/2012 8:35PM

    I hope you can find a real support group to cheer you on!! You know the Sparkers will do so if needed...but more than that, I hope that eating raw will allow you to be as pain free as possible!!! Good luck to you!

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SUSIEPH1 6/26/2012 6:22PM

    I joined Raw food's a few weeks ago .. and am doing really well . I must admit I have been eating raw for much longer that that in fact, I have been eating this way for many months ..I was eating the med way but decided to go the whole hog and go completely raw.
I am feeling great and a lot of the inflammation of Osteoporosis and Arthritis is a lot less .
I think it is also helping my Asthma ..
I Honestly thinks we are on the right track .. hope it works for you too ...
Hugs Susie
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    Congratulations on the weight loss. I'm all for eating fruits and veggies. They should be the basis of any healthy diet.

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TEACHEROF4TH 6/26/2012 5:20PM

    Good for you for the courage to change up your eating plan. I'm sorry to hear about the non-support from your coach, but you've got lots of "coaches" here to help cheer you on! Keep your great effort going!

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JIBBIE49 6/26/2012 5:19PM

    Look up Joe Cross' web site as he has a lot of good information on RAW and juicing. He lost a 100# and got healthy again.

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TIDESONG 6/26/2012 4:59PM

    Huh, very interesting. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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HAPPYSOUL91 6/26/2012 4:33PM

    Glad it works for you, amazing how your MS symptoms were more manageable

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LAURELSPARK 6/26/2012 3:48PM

    Interesting..............thanks for sharing your experiences.

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MUSTANG_SALLY2 6/26/2012 3:29PM

    That's sad that they charge for the website then don't give you the support you need and deserve.

My friend just started eating vegan and most of what she eats is raw. She is struggling too. She found some cool books from the library and some web sites. I'll ask her to recommend something if you want me to.

Hang in there. I hope your health keeps improving!


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WENDYSPARKS 6/26/2012 3:27PM

    I enjoy raw foods also!

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DJ4HEALTH 6/26/2012 3:09PM

    Hate to say this but it seems that she only wanted your money and not give support to anyone. Just saying that about the beans is just wrong and she did not give you something else to replace it with. No as soon as you are done with it if I were you I would drop her program all together and make sure that if you put in on a card that you watch that she does not auto charge. If she does make sure that you get a hold of your credit card company and have them cancel it.

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TIME2BLOOM4ME 6/26/2012 3:04PM

    Yes, I take ribose. As far as I can tell the diet is 80/10/10. Yesterday I added a tiny sliver of the Chocolate Ganache with really satisfied any cravings I had. I think I need to add some extra fat to the 80/10/10 diet though to help the brain. According to what I read people with MS need some extra healthy fats for the brain. It is made with coconut oil which is supposed to help with memory and other functions.

I found Forks over Knives and other documentaries on similar subjects for free on youtube.

I have been vegetarian for years, but it wasn't enough to promote lasting health when one replaces meats with cheese. I find that I am reacting to Morning Star and Bocca meat substitute products. It seems like all the additives are toxic to my system.

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ELISELOVE1 6/26/2012 2:54PM

    i was thinking of going raw next month for my fibromylgia. have you ever thought of having a health coach ? have you ever had the product ribose?

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LIV2RIDE 6/26/2012 2:48PM

    The diet you are describing sounds a lot like 80/10/10 - it's an all fruit and veggie diet. It sounds like you have found something that is working for you. emoticon

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TWEETYKC00 6/26/2012 2:47PM

    I'm glad you're here with us, that is one of the great things about sparks. The only expectations are the ones that come from you and we are here for the support and motivation no matter what.

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MELLY3183 6/26/2012 2:44PM

    I too have been leaning towards more plant based foods. I do admit I feel so much better and the ms isn't bothering me too much. Support is hard to find and the manager of this site shouldn't allow people to have false hope. Sorry you didn't get the support you shelled out the money for. But we're here and we are free :)

Good luck, I am gradually turning this into action (I know if I go too quick it won't last). I have been watching uber documentaries regarding food lately. My favorite so far is "Forks over Knives" it makes some valid points.

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LADYGSC 6/26/2012 2:26PM

    When you think you are going through something, someone else is going through more. I have challenges - I think you are doing a wonderful job with your MS. I truly trust in God for all things and His help through every situation in my life. I will keep you in prayer and continue to say all is well in your life. Be blessed and keep on sparking!!


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TIME2BLOOM4ME 6/26/2012 2:16PM

    Thanks for the comments. Yes, it is sad the program is a big let down. I did post my concerns to her. I do have two weeks left to the program. You are unable to read past posts from other members or teams, so the information is very limited or at least it seems that way for the price. There are lots of free forums out there with good information. I should of stuck to one of them.

I do know Mathew Goodman? I think that is his name wrote a book on MS and going raw. He reversed his condition for a number of years to the point he was able to hike mountains. But maybe a year ago I read somewhere online that he too is faced with a moderate daily symptoms from the MS. Going raw might just slow down the progress, who really knows. There is also a lady who publishes a raw magazine who was helped by it, but I don't know for how long or if she is on meds.

In the past when I did raw it helped decrease the symptoms. It is a time consuming diet and in this world of busy lifestyles wasn't fitting with me. I was working and trying to do it at the same time. Now being off the clock has helped me to attempt it again.

I am pulling out my old raw books, exploring recipes again. It is amazing how good the recipes taste with the unprocessed foods. What is interesting is rediscovering old raw meals that I used to make and love. It feels like my taste buds are re-awakening.

I just got done making a modified version of a raw pesto using an avocado, no oil, pine nuts, garlic, water, and lots of basil. Its very creamy and yummy. I will serve it tonight with zucchini noodles.

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SMILINGTREE 6/26/2012 1:55PM

    So sad that the program was disappointing - especially after you did research and emailed questions and all that. I come across raw food stuff fairly often when I'm browsing for new recipes. I'll try to remember to post links to anything that seems interesting on your page.

Have you looked into whether or not others with MS have found a raw diet helpful? I know someone with lupus and fibromyalgia who says following a paleo diet really decreases her pain. It's so interesting how strict attention to food can impact our bodies!

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1PEACEBUNNY 6/26/2012 1:48PM

    I think you are doing wonderful to have no real support with this type of journey. I signed up for a raw food email years ago and i only had to pay once and you get a lifetime membership with videos, email updates and evrything. I never actually went through with it though, well the eating part. But the site was true to its word, I never paid but still recieve daily info and updates....its really a wonderful site and if I remember correctly all I paid was about $10....but now hes more of a healthfood raw store. But still you're doing wonderful, eating regular helathy food is hard so I imagine eating raw is no picnic. Alot of places are gimmicks but I noticed on SP that they have a lot teams centered around raw foods so maybe you can get support there. I will link the 2 guys sites that I have and maybe than can provide info if nothing else. But thumbs up, you will have your own cookbook if you keep at it...the macaroons look heavenly, I hope they tasted like that! emoticon emoticon &

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LIVINGFREE19 6/26/2012 1:46PM

    Too bad you couldn't have saved the $200, but hindsight is 20/20.

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NATPLUMMER 6/26/2012 1:45PM

    I'm glad the raw food is doing something for you. That is very promising. I hope it continues to help.

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SIONED40 6/26/2012 1:38PM

  Awesome...I will continue to cheer you on thru this process. I think its great that you want to do this. Think of it as an adventure to discovering and creating your own recipes. Some of the best recipes I have are from doing this. I also want to congradulate you on your weight loss...thats great!

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HIKETOHEIGHTS 6/26/2012 1:33PM

    Love this blog, do you mind if I recommend it to the team? Victoria

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STLADEE 6/26/2012 1:30PM

    WoW, sorry to hear about your experience with the paid support program. Glad you are getting the support you need here on SP!


As hard as it is for you I am immensely proud of you doing what you know you have to do for your health and life! Keep up the hard work and Congrats on the 4lbs! Good luck on your continued journey.

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