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Enjoy Trigger Foods?????

Wednesday, November 30, 2011

One of Spark's news articles today was about how you shouldn't "deny" yourself trigger foods. Problem is, by definition if they are "trigger foods" they will pull the trigger on a full on binge. I had to find out what those triggers were and avoid them entirely. I have a couple: Reeses, Cheetos and Chex Mix. I cannot have even one or I will finish whatever is in sight, and crave more. Then I have to deal with that overwhelming craving. Not something I can "just be strong" about. And why? There is no essential nutrient found in only those foods (if only there were!), just the instant gratification found only in that wonderful combination of fat, salt and crunch, or fat and sugar. Only when I decided not to eat those things One Day At A Time was I able to leave that awful craving behind as a residual memory. It's a memory that can be resurrected in one bite, though. It may be hard to turn my back, walk away, but it's a lot easier than dealing with that craving. We are talking about a few seconds of NO rather than weeks of denial.

I am eternally grateful that I lost weight back when we had to cut out a lot of food rather than allow ourselves "just a taste every now and then". I had to learn to find the closest substitute for me: crunchy salad, salty olives, sweet fruit, rearranged into the infinite possibilities that are available. I don't need to pull that trigger.

Sometimes what seems like unreasonable denial can be the key to moving on.
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JITZUROE 12/25/2011 8:15PM

    Hiya, I saw the title and had to read this. I also am like you and CANNOT be trusted around those dreaded Reece's cups and a few other items as well. I was reading the Four Day Win, and one if the chapters was telling me to have all of my trigger foods around me and to eat some of them- but just some, not all.
Needless to say, I bombed. I am just not one of those people who can do that yet. Maybe one day, but not today.

Merry Christmas
Bren

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OOLALA53 12/25/2011 1:03PM

    I do think some people are more susceptible to certain kinds of triggers, but just as most people are not overweight because of a glandular problem, most of them are capable of eating moderately of all foods. MOST, I said. I can't speak for those who have been morbidly obese. Obviously, their bodies can be different because most bodies will not induce the individual to desire the amount of food that allows them to get so big. Personally, I feel I was handicapped by the notion that I could not control my intake of certain foods. Yes, it's true that some foods can induce strong urges to overeat, but the urges don't make me eat. I have found that many foods that used to feel impossible to resist are not a problem anymore. The science shows that you either have to abstain forever OR realize that when you restrict for a period of time and then have the food, the brain will send out signals to overeat that food. That is what makes people feel they can't have a bite. If you do actually overeat it, you will make the urge even stronger later. But if you don't, if you resist in the face of the urge (just as you resist the urge to overeat in general), and do this repeatedly, over time, the urge to overeat it will subside. I admit that doing that process can be very scary and if I had been heavier to start or had a health condition that contraindicated taking any chances, I might have decided to forego those foods forever, but I didn't want to. I feel it has worked out well for me. Despite the fact that I do have them a few times a week, and sometimes even more than I am comfortable with, the pull is getting weaker. I can imagine a time when I have them rarely just because I just am more satisfied and content without them. But I totally understand the choice to abstain.

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NERVOUSWRECKIAM 12/3/2011 7:02AM

    Doritos....keep the bag AWAY from me. The Nacho Cheesier they are...that first bite will do me in. I cannot moderate some foods...best for me to avoid them entirely.

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DARLENEK04 11/30/2011 5:35PM

  For me, the first bite of whatever the bad food is, and I
am sunk.
I can have a pint of strawberry ice cream in the freezer
til it is too old to eat, and I am fine with that, but take
that first bite and it is gone.

The foods that are bad for me, salty/sweet, whatever, I just
have to leave totally out of my food plan.

Darlene

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FISHINGLADY66 11/30/2011 5:16PM

    I know where you are coming from Nell. emoticon

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4A-HEALTHY-BMI 11/30/2011 2:27PM

    If you read that column closely you'll see that she doesn't even do this herself. She SUBSTITUTES one food for another. Chocolate instead of cookies, for example.

Which is a valid strategy, but it is NOT what the heading says it is.

I think building up an expectation that all of us will one day be able to "eat normally" or "intuitively" or "enjoy trigger foods in moderation" is horse pucky and unfair. It's like saying those of us who choose to abstain aren't truly "healed" or are somehow defective.

You know what? I LIKE this size, and I've worked dang hard to get here. I work dang hard to stay here, too. I don't appreciate being labeled as 'obsessive' for wanting to stick with what works. I do not label the "moderation" folks as "lazy" or "undisciplined," although I could.

Especially when I see the typical results in blog posts a few months later when they say, "Gee, I guess I need to get back to basics on this weight management thing." Ignore the scale and stop tracking - what did they expect to happen? Magic fairy dust? I've personally tried that experiment over and over and for me it DOES NOT WORK. It is an exercise in futility. Why would I want to do that to myself?

So thank you, Nell, for speaking with your years of experience on this and reassuring the rest of us that it is OK to continue to think and behave like a recovering overeater. Because that is exactly what I am.



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BITTYGIRL51 11/30/2011 12:56PM

    And I come from the other side of the fence from the MISSG180...I agree with you, there are certain foods that I have to AVOID at all costs! I cannot eat one bite of CAKE with ICING. Or even one small piece for that matter. I am the one wanting the corner piece with all the icing and will be scraping up all the extra icing when no one is looking. I am the one that will have 4 or 5 desserts at church potlucks - there's just so much to choose from that it's literally impossible to eat just one.

I'm the one that if bread and butter is on the table - I will eat it! More butter than bread!! But, as long as it is nowhere in sight I don't care anything about it. I do good with out of sight out of mind, except when it comes to CAKE! If it's been put in the freezer, it will still call my name, everytime i walk past the freezer! I cannot have it in the house!

So, what in the world was SP trying to say in that article? That denial of any shape or form is bad? I don't agree. In fact, I am reading a really good book called, Made to Crave that talks about this very issue. To deny ourselves is scriptural! We need to get our flesh under subjection and to do that we often must deny ourselves the very thing we crave! We are doing a book study on the Be Your Best team right now on this very subject. Feel free to jump in. emoticon

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MISSG180 11/30/2011 12:07PM

    I think that people are all different. When it was all about forbidden foods and never having things again, I couldn't diet with a gun to my head. I do much better with the intuitive eating and moderation model. But I'm certainly not everyone!

I think it's great that there are lots of different resources and people can find what works for them.

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