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I AM MAD!!!!

Sunday, February 13, 2011

This may not be the best place to let others know about what is going on here on this beautiful island but if any of you will contact your US congress personnel and get is stopped please do.

The military owns and uses over 1/3rd of the island! Well that may not seem like much but when the island is only 32 miles long and 4 to 9 miles wide depend on where you are that is a lot of land. There is to be a build up of Marines that are being moved off Okinawa soon. I have no problem with the Marines and all they will bring which will be more than 20, 000 people or even more but i do have a problem with the military wanting to turn a historical land mark into a firing range! There is other land they can use. Land that they already have control of but they want Pagat! You can google the name and find out more and you can click on this site http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
=C1ISaikzqDk to watch the video!

I have never been to Pagat and because of my knees never will but I do not want it taken away from the rightful owners! The owners do not want to sell but the military made the decision to use this land several years ago and regardless what others have said are adamant about taking it. There is a lawsuit hearing tomorrow Guam time since the military has not listened to the Guam legislature or people.

Watch tie video and see some beautiful land and artifacts.

Jane on Guam
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DUSTYPRAIRIE 11/9/2011 9:40AM

    We've had a similar problem in Colorado. The army was trying to buy ranch land for yet another training range. Eventually the ranchers won. I hope it is the same in Guam.

Please keep us updated!

(((butterfly hugs, Jane)))

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LINDAMARIEZ1 10/10/2011 4:45PM

    SORRY TO HERE THAT jANE! i WILL PRAY TOO! CAN'T HURT!! HUGS LINDA

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1BEACHWALKER 5/10/2011 5:28PM

    I don't blame you for being mad! I saw a map of the island and wow-the military occupies a lot of it! Too sad they are ruining such a Beautiful place. I know they are needed and in areas close to the water, it is just a shame they get such pretty places! Like here in Florida they are right smack in the middle of the Tampa Bay area-the nicest areas. Hope things have happened to help keep them from putting the firing range on there-that seems ridiculous on such a tiny island! emoticon

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PEGJOHN1997 5/10/2011 9:06AM

    Jane,
I just read this. What do you need me to do? What has happened since you wrote this blog? I'm sorry I haven't been keeping up. Just let me know what needs to be done and I will do my best to get it done.

Peggy

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GRAYGRANNY 4/15/2011 7:03AM

    "We are the government and here to help"

One LIE after another!!!!!

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SELKIEGHOST 4/9/2011 9:27PM

    While I agree that the pressure to force a land sale sounds fairly unethical - and that resources currently in place should be used as much as possible (Marine training is different from the other branches, and what they may be seeking is something their infantry troops have daily access to, instead of scheduled days here and there)... I'll also have to agree with RKJ1969 - when we would go on boonie stomps around Pagat... it was just a disgusting trash dump mess...
That's something that always shocks me on hikes... the vast level of carelessness about caring for this tiny island that seems to be going on. I know the jungle is quick to "eat" things (why else would people constantly abandon cars on the sides of roads.. or couches, chairs, etc..). But that doesn't give people an excuse to treat the jungle like a trash dump... it's so ugly to see it all the time - and the poor environment - if all the folks (local and military) living on this island won't even care for the land - how does anyone expect it to thrive? Or be "pristine"?

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SLIMMERKIWI 3/13/2011 5:41PM

    To me it sounds like legal thievery and total disregard of anything other than their own wants.

Kris

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YIGOBUTTERFLY 3/13/2011 4:55PM

    The firing range is going through with some modifications. Why do I feel that 5/10 years down the line they will take what they are now saying they will leave alone? No, because of what I have seen happen here in the past I am fearful.

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DOTSLADY 3/13/2011 4:47PM

    What's happening with this? Update pls? Very pretty island.

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MOMFAN 2/15/2011 2:10AM

    emoticon

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SYLPHINPROGRESS 2/14/2011 6:51PM

    A couple of you wrote that it's difficult to fight governments and that you're surprised that governments claim private property under eminent domain. Both happen all the time -- right now, for example -- but people must stay active and noisy in their opposition.

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RKJ1969 2/14/2011 5:51PM

    I agree that the Marines can and should find room at one of the firing ranges already in place at NCTMS or Andersen AFB - however, some of the public hue and cry gets on my nerves.

I participated in the Pagat clean up that happened when people first got all riled up about the military proposal - over THREE weekends we hauled out truckloads of trash and old appliances, tires, etc. This suppposedly "pristine" and sacred ground was a giant trash dump!

Most of my local friends had never even been there before this got plastered all over the news. Now it's suddenly a great treasure...

If anything - giving the military control of the area will at least keep it CLEAN!!!! They are still going to allow access for boonie stomps, etc...

Comment edited on: 2/14/2011 8:38:05 PM

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YIGOBUTTERFLY 2/14/2011 5:07PM

    Other things have not worked so now there is a lawsuit with hearings starting today Guam time.

If people from different states contact their congress people and perhaps start petitions in their states so more people stateside know what is going on we might be able to save this pristine land. To me it is like putting a firing range at the top of the cliff at Yosemite!

Jane

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SUNSHINE65 2/14/2011 4:54PM

    Jane, your video URL was perfect. The Marines obviously do not want to share with the Navy or Air Force (are they still there?). But they really should do their firing range up north where there is a lot of land already belonging to the military. Pretty arrogant of the military! Smacks of colonialism!
Gayle

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GOANNA2 2/14/2011 4:51PM

    That is not good is it?
Hope the petition gets some sort of result, although it
is hard fighting governments isn't it? emoticon

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SAMMYPEACH 2/14/2011 11:08AM

    Being a former Navy wife that lived on Guam, there is A LOT of military there and I myself have wondered where in the world the marines would go once they got there. I do not understand why they cannot use resources alraedy available? Guam is so beautiful and the little bit of land untouched should stay that way.

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MAGA99 2/14/2011 8:40AM

    do u know if there is a pettition to sign

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11-RENEWAL-20 2/14/2011 8:26AM

    There are so many things happening in our country that are just not right and this is definitely one of them. Who would have ever thought that individual rights and private property could be taken over just because...? It is scary and maddening; I join you in prayers that someone with common sense will decide to do the right thing. emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon

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YIGOBUTTERFLY 2/13/2011 10:35PM

    I guess I did not do something right with the www I gave. You can google Pagat PNC News and click on the sites that come up about Pagat Guam. The videos show there also.

Jane

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