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Not Surprised, but very disappointed in Spark People

Thursday, November 12, 2009

As many of you know I am the co leader of a spark team called SNKs (Single no Kids) for a long time I have wondered why there are so little resources for singles on SparkPeople. In the Lifestyle Center there are Lifestyle groups for People interested in the green lifestyle, for gardeners, for “Natural Beauties” Whatever that is?, Seniors, College students, Families, but nothing for Singles.

I have asked this question a couple times and in a couple different ways to SP. And have been surprised at how little support there is for the single person there is. Most recently I asked the Sparkguy about this. His response was not surprising but disappointing. Most people do not want to hear about what it is like for singles, or believe we are a non issue.

Sparkguy wrote:

“We do think that most of the content on the site is generic enough for anyone to use. I'm happy you have a SparkTeam for singles - that's one of the top reasons we encourage members to start SparkTeams around any affinity - we can't possibly cover every possible issue with our small team that needs to cover millions of people visiting the site so teams are a great way for people to get together to talk about all types of issues.

Let us know if you have specific ideas for articles. Also, feel free to do things like have your team do blog posts that address issues from the single perspective - we basically give members the ability to create their own content with blogs and teams. I'll be honest that it's incredibly hard for our small team to run a major site like this, so we greatly appreciate it when members handle issues as positively as possible for everyone involved. Our coaches have a tough job managing a community that gets millions of posts per month. Chris”

What this says to me is that singles are not a group worthy of attention by the Spark team. While “Natural Beauties”, gardeners and greens are as they have their own section.

What I was hoping to hear was that I made a good point and that SparkPeople would try to find resources for the singles who are members. That they would look into finding experts to write on issues that effect singles. That they would try and add more smaller serving recipes to SparkRecipes. That in general they would try to keep in mind not everyone can relate to examples about being married or family life.

Not “do it on you own” . Which we have been for years. One of the reasons I feel SNK’s is such an important group and has been the best support for me in my health journey. A place where I find others who understand the joys and difficulties of living as a single person in a world where everything is 2 for 1.


According to the United States Bureau of the Census, the fastest-growing household type since the 1980s has been the single person. There has been a similar increase in single person households in Britain. It is estimated there were more than 1.1 million mature singles in Canada in 2001, that is in a population of about 30 million. Of those, about half, or 550,000, did not expect to marry. So it would appear singles are not a fringe group.

Most singles who are single by choice, circumstance, or life will tell you it is not all about dating and having fun. Especially for those who are out of their 20’s. Living single is not easy. And the issues which singles have to deal with are very different from those of our married or coupled friends.

It is more expensive to live single than it is to live as a couple or a family. Not only is there no one to share the bills for everyday living (mortgage/rent, hydro, heat, food etc).We are often charged more for the same service. If I go on a trip I will be charged one and half to double the person charge that someone traveling as a part of a couple will be changed for the same trip. How is that fair? Many sales are 2 for 1, but that doesn’t mean ˝ price for ordering for one. Many sales in the supermarket are for the family size, do you know how long it would take me to use that up? Singles get no tax breaks we pay the full amount without getting most of the benefits. As we get older more and more of our friends are in relationships so the advice to double up and share these costs just doesn’t work.

There are health care concerns that we face our married/ coupled friends do not understand. What do you do when facing surgery (as one of our members asked recently) and you have no partner or family to look after you when they send you home. This can be an added stress to an already stressful situation. I know not all partners or family are supportive and helpful but at least there is an option we do not have.

There are safety issues for singles as well. While I don’t really think about it, and I know I should, when I head off for one of my walks with the dogs. There isn’t anyone going to miss me if I don’t come back from that walk, till I don’t show up for work. Could be days before I am missed. Or even just driving home at the end of the day, on one is waiting to see if I made it. These are things married don’t really think about.

It can be hard to eat healthy. Cooking for one isn’t easy and the advice out there to batch cook larger recipes or buddy up with a friend are not helpful. Try to find recipes on Spark recipes that are for less that 4-10 servings. Or going into even a large chain book store and find a cookbook for cooking for one. What many experts forget is most singles do not own large freezers to store the food from batch cooking. We generally just have the top of an apartment size fridge. Often we end up eating single serving frozen dinners, the fast and the size is right. But not the best choice health wise. I went to see the dietician at my medical center and when I challenged her to find these cookbooks etc for singles she was surprised how hard it actually was. She was also surprised how much more expensive it was to buy small amounts of food versus the family size.

There is the social pressure to be married and have kids. The sometimes cruel questions we are asked about why we are single. There is the looks at the office party when you show up alone, or worse if you drag a friend along and the questions are asked about your orientation. There is the look of pity if you ask for a table for one at a restaurant or the condemnation for taking up the space a couple could sit. All which can led to isolating the single person, staying at home rather than going out and doing things on there own. Not really an issue for me, but I have heard it from other members. I am too old to let others options of my life stopping me from living it.

Anyway Sparkguy suggests blogging on being single so I have. Oh and I did submit about 20 suggestions for articles for single. Plus created a thread at SNKs for members to do the same.
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BOUDINETTE 12/8/2009 10:07AM

    i'm single, no kids but i cannot agree with you. the most necessary information is out there. if there aren't enough groups for singles, it just shows that people are not creating them. recipes? well, most recipes on sparkrecipes.com came from SP users just like you and me, so we're welcome to add our own to share them with others.

i'm not saying this whole thing is not an issue, as we can see thanks to the feedback to this post you've got. but i just don't see how a handful of SP leaders can cover all social groups and their needs. it's a good thing, though, that you took initiative. along with your team members, you can search for and share lots of useful information that you cannot find ready-to-be-used on here. so you're not alone on this!

wishing you good luck! emoticon

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DAHLINGZ 11/14/2009 12:50PM

    Good article. Thank you.

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ALICOTTER 11/13/2009 2:55PM

    I have to say that I find it interesting the difference in the comments from married people to singles on my blog.

As the leader of a group for singles I blogged on the lack of resources on Spark and asked it there could be some developed. That singles should be seen as a lifestyle more than gardeners or "Natural beauties" both of which have resource pages. For that matter I believe that there should also be a lifestyle group for those who are gay, or disabled or live in a rural area. All real lifestyles, and all not recognized

For some reason married people seem to see this as a personal issue, emotional issue.




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GODDESSRAW71 11/13/2009 10:08AM

    I am so sorry that you feel left out. I always thought that we as SP created the groups ourselves. I understand where you are coming from and also understand SP's response to you. I wish you much success with your group.

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MIMAWELIZABETH 11/13/2009 7:55AM

    I hesitate to disagree with your assessment, but I don't see how SparkPeople has significantly shunned or excluded Singles more than many other demographics. I think Chris's reply spells out the situation quite well: this is a site mainly created by the people participating; there are only a few Spark staff employees, and they have a lot of ground to cover.

The content on Spark comes mainly from us - the members - and what we show interest in (as well as educational info). The message boards, team activities, and the majority of the recipes are ALL created by us members. I'm really glad you made suggestions for articles, and hope those written from your ideas are very helpful. I hope you'll continue to make suggestions!

That's the Spark website in action. I'm quite impressed with the variety, quality, and volume of the tools and information on Spark; plus, there are features constantly being added or updated, a lot in response to members' ideas and requests. (I'm also glad you blogged about your frustration and disappointment, as it raises awareness and spurs discussion.)

Ironically, I just read a post on a team for disabled people that Spark focuses mainly on the able-bodied, and doesn't include enough content for the rest of us (of which there are PLENTY, believe me, for all different reasons). My reaction was that WE, as disabled Sparkers, need to make suggestions for articles and Daily Spark blogs, and offer support to each other.

I AM sorry you don't feel included or supported by Spark ~ I hope that changes for you! Take care, Elizabeth~



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MANYPOUNDSTOGO 11/13/2009 5:07AM

    This is a recent issue for me. As most of you know my dear husband passed away in September this year. I never realized how hard it is being alone in more ways than just the loneliness. I am so happy you blogged about this. I personally HATE eating alone, because it is so hard to fix a meal for just one. I seem to be stuck eating the same thing for a week!

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LUVSSNAPE 11/12/2009 1:13PM

    Wow thank you so much for your blog! I am going to join your team. I struggle a lot with being single because of many of the reasons you mentioned. Society certainly does not make it easy to be single whatsoever!!

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NIKAROONEY 11/12/2009 1:12PM

    It's tough to respond to this because I guess I'm technically not single. I live with my boyfriend of 6 years - but we're unmarried, so I can definitely relate to the whole pressure of getting married aspect. However, I've spent plenty of time single and have many single friends who I hear similar frustrations from.

I guess the best thing I could say is - your frustrations are valid. You are not alone. There are plenty of single people who will benefit from the actions you are taking now. The whole premise of this website is to take charge of your life - you are showing that here. I think it's great you wrote this blog and even better that you're forging a path for other single-sparkers!

Nicole emoticon

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KNH771 11/12/2009 1:11PM

    I'm sorry you feel so neglected by Spark. I'm SNK myself, but I never saw it as much of an issue in terms of health and wellness or this site. I LOVE big batch cooking and find it saves me a tremendous amount of time and money. A couple of years ago, I bought a full size freezer for the garage (at the time to divide costs for throwing large parties - instead of buying all of the food for the Christmas get together in December, I start buying a couple of months ahead to spare my budget). The freezer was actually very inexpensive, and has been a life-saver. I freeze things in half-cup or one cup containers so that I have healthy single-serve dinners ready to throw in the microwave when I'm too tired to cook.

This isn't to say that I don't feel that singles are kind of a neglected group in society. There are groups that I belong to where it's kind of a serious issue for me. I just never felt that it had anything to do with what I chose to eat, or where or when I chose to exercise. A time when I was in the hospital for serious surgery, I just asked the doctor and insurance company to allow me an extra day or two in the hospital since I had no help at home. That worked well.

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SASSIISSAS 11/12/2009 1:08PM

    I find it interesting that living single is one of the fastest growing populations anywhere in the industrial world, yet here in SP, we appear to be a non-entity. I was also not surprised, yet very disappointed in SparkGuy's response. As I mentioned before, SP is very urban-centred, middle-upper class, family and partner focused. Batch cooking - if one more person tells me to do this I'll explode! How would families like to eat the same food for weeks? And at some point food in the freezer has to be ate or thrown out, some has a longer life span than other food. So one batch cooks, then all one has in the freezer is the same food, over and over and over. Ugh! I've tried to discuss issues specific to single living and am met with comments like "you don't know how easy you have it." I'm fortunate in that I have married friends who do understand because they lived single prior to marrying. Or when I try to talk about juggling my schedule, am met with "try doing it with a husband and children, then you'll know how hard it is." The implication is that I have nothing but free time to do everything and anything, no stress, no pressures. I could go on and on, you made such great points that I don't need to. Myself, I've lived both lives and each has their own set of stresses, own barriers and own freedoms. I also know the value of both lifestyles. I wouldn't tell married folks with children that they aren't important or single parents that they don't count, so why is it that its acceptable on SP to tell me as a single person without a child that I'm not important enough to create resources? Great points Ali, hope that more jump on this and make noise. I know I plan to send a letter to SparkGuy and I hope others do too.

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BARBARA_G 11/12/2009 1:06PM

    It's too bad SP does not consider singles an important enough group of people.
Barbara

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