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Counting Every Calorie: Obsessive? Future Eating Disorder?Thursday, May 05, 2011
I've been counting calories -- using the nutrition tracker, pre-planning my meals, following the Beck cognitive strategies to "learn to think like a thin person". I've got Beck cards to review which remind me to arrange my environment to eliminate temptations: that hunger is not an emergency; that I should sit down to eat; and that I can identify and cope with "sabotaging thoughts" -- including, that the process of tracking nutrition so closely is anal retentive and takes way too much time!! ![]()
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FRACTALMYTH
5/9/2011 3:19PM
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I am trying to get myself to a position where I don't need to track - not because I'm worried about any obsessiveness, so much as I tend to rebel against any kind of repetitious regime... wait - that's not right.... hmmm. OK. I tend to rebel against having to comply with too many repetitious regimes at once! I am right on top of the health and fitness regime when the only other thing I am doing is parenting. When I add working to the mix, my efforts at all 3 become haphazard, so health and fitness takes a back step - or rather, instead of being a mandated regime (albeit one that I have mandated for myself) it has to become more integrated and flexible. If eating starts getting out of hand I will track for a few days to get myself... back on TRACK lol... but then I am working on trusting myself to stick to the plan while playing unsupervised (to borrow a parenting metaphor lol). It gets to the point where I just want to eat my dinner and not pull it apart and weigh it first! I know that extras and portions can be problematic, so I am working at developing good judgment based on what I have learned from the tracker and taking a "refresher" whenever I feel myself slipping. I am getting better at accepting that exercise can be squeezed in anywhere I can, even if just for a few minutes here and there instead of a concerted all out effort. For me, it is about keeping in control while releasing the need to control (if that makes any sense...) - accepting the difference between Life as it actually is, and Life as it is meant to be :D and learning how to make Life as it actually is the best that it can be at the time. As always - thank you so much for helping me to clarify my goals and what I am doing to reach them. I wouldn't think about this stuff and realise there may be method behind my madness if not for your provocative (in the sense of poking my brain) posts :D HUGS!!!! Comment edited on: 5/9/2011 3:24:26 PM Report Inappropriate Comment |


PHEBESS
5/7/2011 11:30AM
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My problem is that I NEED to be obsessive about my calories in! At least for a while. Because it does work!
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BLUESKY_321
5/7/2011 8:03AM
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If this is working for you (and let's face it, it IS) then so be it. I agree with Mssnowy - if you are using the numbers to try and one-up yourself each day, that would seem to be a sign of an unhealthy use of the tracker.... that's not you! I track ... but post-track and I'm still indulging in spontaneous eating on occasions (I'm not ready to give that up YET! although you and Marsha make me think about it all the time Report Inappropriate Comment |


TRENTDREAMER
5/7/2011 7:36AM
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"I've been counting calories -- using the nutrition tracker, pre-planning my meals, following the Beck cognitive strategies to "learn to think like a thin person". I've got Beck cards to review which remind me to arrange my environment to eliminate temptations: that hunger is not an emergency; that I should sit down to eat; and that I can identify and cope with "sabotaging thoughts" * While usually Beck's views are a little too libertarian for me, it sounds like he's on the right track with this. That being said, I still like listening to "Loser". Soy un perdador (I'm kidding). "But I certainly know that I've got social friends and acquaintances who would like to pressure me to eat more like they do -- more spontaneously, and more "binge" type high calorie foods on "celebratory" occasions. " * Change can be really hard when something that has traditionally been enjoyed together becomes a thing of the past for one(especially when it reflects bad decision on the one(s) who continues partaking). "But today in the Toronto Globe and Mail on line edition there is a discussion with a psychologist who suggests that tracking calories can be the precursor of an eating disorder. " * And I would say that it absolutely can. It can be a first step. But that doesn't mean that it inherently (or even probably) will. If I had a daughter who started counting literally every calorie, I would probably look closely at "next moves". Is she always talking about calories? Is her day/weekend totally ruined if she went 28 calories over because she was hungry and needed to eat a piece of fruit? Basically, is her calorie counting helping her get her eating on track or is it becoming a matter of life and death for her psychologically. The author uses the term excessive with little definition. I think obsessive or compulsive calorie counting and obsessive/compulsive worrying about it is more of a symptom of a similar problem/problem set that underpins eating disorders. But in and of itself, calorie counting kind of is what it is. Comment edited on: 5/7/2011 7:43:56 AM Report Inappropriate Comment |


CMRAND54
5/6/2011 12:23PM
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I've been tracking my food for a year and a half. If that's an eating disorder, so be it. I lost 70 pounds, and am still within 2 pounds of my goal weight. I have no desire to starve myself to death. I do eat things like chocolate candy, or gluten free cookies on occasion, I just track the calories to fit them in (or not, depending on my mood). I figure that I'm not ever going to have a perfect diet, but that's not a reason to stop trying to eat healthy food. Stick with it. You're doing great.
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MSSNOWY
5/6/2011 10:05AM
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I think it has to do with the motive for tracking. If , as you are doing, it's to pre-plan and make sure that you are within your range of food intake, or if it's recording what has been done to make sure that you're staying on track, then I don't see a problem at all. In fact I think it's healthy and it obviously works for you. But I do think that 'tracking' can be obsessive in the hands of someone who feels some virtue in taking in less and less each day and trying to 'beat their record.' If they have a competitive mentality that makes a 'game' out of it in the worst sense of the word, then, yes, I can see where it could lead to compulsively trying to out-do your earlier 'record' and create a real health problem. I don't think that's you. So count away. I need to do more of it, and you are a great example to follow. Thank you. Report Inappropriate Comment |


NANCY-
5/6/2011 8:14AM
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Personally if tracking for info works for me when I am looking for trends. Otherwise I am not a tracker. (I prefer to be oblivious.) Sure come folks could become obsessive about it. But that would probably already be within their personality. Report Inappropriate Comment |


SLENDERELLA61
5/6/2011 8:07AM
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Great blog. You raise a great issue. For me, counting calories just makes sense. If I don't I'll be overweight. When I count my calories I can maintain a healthy weight. Simple as that. I do not sense that this "obsession" is going to increase. I may take off a week here and there and do a little intuitive eating. But I know for me, intuitive eating won't work for the long run.
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1000PENNIES
5/6/2011 7:41AM
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I don't think tracking calories or exercise is obessive behavior. If anything it is helping me to be more balanced in my approach to eating and exercising. There are days that I go over and it is not always planned (Im still working on that). But I am finally getting a grip. Compared to where I was several months ago. Barely exercising and eating close to 3000 calories a day versus exercising at least 5 days a week and eating around 2100 a day. I would say that is an improvement. My goal is to get to the point that I am consistently within my calorie range and exercising everyday. I am losing weight. Yes it is slow but I try not to focus so much on the number but the benefits instead. So I would keep on doing what you are doing. By the way what is the Beck approach? It sounds like something that I would be interested in looking into. Report Inappropriate Comment |


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IRONGRANNIE
5/6/2011 1:57AM
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I am with you on this one. I don't track all the time but I do it in controlled bursts-1 or 2 weeks at a time to make sure I am not falling back into old habits. Sometimes I find I have got a bit of portion-distortion going on and I can reel it back in. Future eating disorder? Honey that takes waaay too long to develop for me to worry!!!! Denise. Report Inappropriate Comment |


BRIGHTSPARK7
5/6/2011 12:48AM
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You are doing what you need for optimum health and wellbeing. I don't pretrack but I do tend to repeat healthy options day after day. I like to think I'm using my decision making muscles during the day and tracking really supports that. It provides good information -- as you know -- about other things besides calories. I'm with you on celebrating with friends in ways that don't necessarily involve lots of food. We can gather for hikes, movies, or just for fun. My friends know I'm a vegetarian and they expect me to cook pretty healthy food for them, so that definitely helps. And if I'm invited out, my family and friends know to checkout the veggie options for me. This has taken years of training them ... but has been well worth it. Report Inappropriate Comment |


JUDI_CUTIE
5/6/2011 12:24AM
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I'm with you on this one. The tracking in advance is the best way for me to succeed. Whenever I get myself to do it (which comes in waves) I always do well. Sometimes I rebel and just don't feel like it, but I firmly believe it is a good thing to do. (I am on my sixth night of tracking ahead after being out of the habit for a while. I feel great about it!) I don't think it leads to eating disorders. I think it is actually a way for people who have problems with their eating (maybe an eating disorder or maybe just struggles) to get a grip on it. Choosing in advance is not dysfunctional. Enjoying life without it being all about the food is quite a feat. If you can do that, you have to count that as a GOOD thing and not as a problem. (It is pretty important though that you do not put a damper on events if your friends want to indulge. Be sure you are really ENJOYING the company even without the food.) Report Inappropriate Comment |


FREELADY
5/5/2011 11:45PM
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What you are doing is sane and successful. It's simply practical and effective, like using a bank statement and a budget to manage financial resources. When slightly skewed information floats around out there, distressing and or discouraging good, earnest people, it makes it all the more valuable and significant that you are so generous and kind in encouraging and instructing others on this site. You give of yourself continually around here, and it nourishes confidence, strength, and good judgment for many of us. So I would say, far from being vulnerable to an eating disorder, Watermellen is functioning as a one-woman eating-disorder ANTIDOTE! Report Inappropriate Comment |


DONNACFIT
5/5/2011 11:17PM
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You're doing great!! I don't think you have to worry..it's only obsessive if it is interfering with your daily life in a bad way. Keep on Sparkin' Report Inappropriate Comment |


EDWINA172
5/5/2011 10:57PM
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I've tracked my calories for over 4 years. I am down 50 pounds and am healthier, more fit, medication free and very happy. If that makes me obsessive, so be it. If someone wants to label me with a disorder~then slap it on me. My husband and I will track our calories until we are no longer able to. We love how healthy feels. We are helping others become healthy. There are many "friends" and family who don't understand our lifestyle. That's ok with us. They don't have to understand our life because WE are living it, not them. Sounds like you are doing well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Thanks for posting the blog. Have a great weekend. Report Inappropriate Comment |


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ERIKO1908
5/5/2011 10:15PM
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I can totally see where that 'could' be an issue, but I'm thinking you are one of the ones that has it under control. This really is working for you & it has taken you to a WAY better place that is much healthier for you. I think over time, as you get more and more into the Beck way, there might be a 'slight' relazing of some of it - at that point if you feel yourself starting to slide you really don't have that far to go to recover. I really liked your comment about there being way more in life to celebrate than you can afford with calories. This is such a wise comment & I am taking it with me to ponder. As long as you keep it smart & are aware of what you are doing & also what a disorder looks like & know if you are heading in that direction, I'm sure you will do fine. I'm at that same place, because I'm not sure of my end weight. I know in my brain that I will recognize when it is too much gone...I keep looking for that point at which I am done & ready to maintain. Yeah for all your successes!!! This really is about you doing it and doing it well!! Keep up all your hard work!! ~~ Erica Report Inappropriate Comment |


VALERIEMAHA
5/5/2011 9:50PM
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I have the *feeling* that your approach to weight control via Beck tends to reflect the way you live your life in general, which is why you've accomplished bunches of stuff and contributes to you having what's known as "The Good Life!" Although your approach is a little too controlled for me, I'd certainly like to find a territory mid-way between when I'm at these days and where you're at!!! No true confessions at the moment -- so 'nuff said. But I applaud you and think you're doing great...AND of course the health considerations are more urgent with your history! Maha Report Inappropriate Comment |


NICE125
5/5/2011 9:44PM
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It's a matter of balance, I am 40 pounds overweights so I need to count calories, and I don't think I am obsessive, I don't beat myself if I go overboard by a 100 or so cal. I don't get irritated or angry if I do that, also if one pre plans then there is always some built in extra calories one can take, no danger of eating disorder here!!! Loving Beck! thanks Ellen!, Report Inappropriate Comment |


DREMARGRL
5/5/2011 9:42PM
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DON'T WORRY....BE HAPPY! Look at the alternative and know that you are just determined and focused on staying trim and healthy....WAAAAA-HOOOOOOO FOR YOU! And for me........xo Take a look around and know that you are the smartie pants. I XO Have a good night, darlin', and keep up the good work. Have a lovely summer and keep that spark blazin' hawwwwt! MaryAnn Report Inappropriate Comment |


An article in the Toronto Globe and Mail says that liposuction isn't permanent. The fat comes back -- just not necessarily in the same place. So if you have fat liposuctioned off your tummy, it's back within a year but maybe in your upper abdomen, or back, or even your triceps.
Here's the link: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-ho
t-button/the-fat-came-back-belly-bulge
-returns-after-liposuction/article2007502/
Yikes!!
And the interesting thing is . . .even when people were informed about this research, many still opted to have the liposuction done!!
OK, I've fantasized about liposuction from time to time but . . . really? Worth the discomfort? The cost? And the wondering: where's it gonna reappear??
Whaddya think??


PHEBESS
5/7/2011 11:31AM
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I have a friend who thought we should be able to lie in the sun, melt the fat, and then just suck it out with a turkey baster. Wouldn't that be so much easier???
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CMRAND54
5/5/2011 8:43PM
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I never was interested in liposuction. I wouldn't mind having some excess skin trimmed, though. Maybe I'll get my neck tightened.
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JIBBIE49
5/5/2011 7:08PM
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The fat doesn't "Reappear" but the FAT CELLS that were there are now the ones that get FULL of fat, because a person goes back to their old eating habits and GAINS weight. So the fat cells on the back of the arms or on the inside of the thighs NOW get full. The place where you have Lipo-suction no longer has the fat cells there so you CAN'T fill them back up again. I know a woman who had it done along with a tummy tuck after having six children and her stomach area looks great so now she can wear dresses that have a belt rather than having that fat bulge sticking out that made her look like she was about 4 months pregnant. Report Inappropriate Comment |


TRYINGHARD1948
5/5/2011 4:42PM
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It's amazing what people will do to themselves.
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NANCY-
5/5/2011 9:33AM
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I heard about this, but decided long ago that I didn't really trust anyone well enough to suck stuff out of me for vanity sake. I feared that they might leave me looking worse than when I started. Report Inappropriate Comment |


FREELADY
5/5/2011 12:18AM
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I am such a cautious soul. I always tell myself I prefer the known negatives to the (possibly worse) unknown ones! Thanks for this info. Report Inappropriate Comment |


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ERIKO1908
5/4/2011 11:44PM
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Tee hee...I giggled after reading this...I had an evil thought...maybe I can get mine to reappear on that cute little stick thin bopsy girl at the gym who eats everything and anything under the sun without gaining an ounce...and will happily tell you the whole story while swinging her ponytail and rolling her eyes...sorry...my brain took a not so nice detour there...perhaps kinder and gentler Erica will return tomorrow...
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BRIGHTSPARK7
5/4/2011 10:57PM
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Lipo doesn't appeal to me at all. I try to love my curves into their new forms.
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VALERIEMAHA
5/4/2011 10:08PM
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I stay as far as possible away from all medical establishments unless I need urgent care.
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MARELNAT
5/4/2011 10:07PM
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My fat would probably reappear right back where it started in the caboose! Report Inappropriate Comment |

