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Too Far - Too Fast - Too Soon

Wednesday, June 02, 2010

I took my running clothes and shoes to work yesterday. Near my office is an open-space area that contains many miles of nicely maintained trails. Except for one big hill, the area is relatively flat. The elevation is a piddling 5,700 feet. I work in Boulder, Colorado. Boulder takes running seriously and maintains a vast network of trails.

I have been working hard to rehab my left IT band and felt I could do a gentle run. I wanted to run a two or three easy miles, I thought I would run a bit then walk a bit. Given that the trail was smooth, I felt the conditions were ideal.

I started running and felt pretty good. I then saw an narrow unmarked trail that looked inviting. This narrow trail that was not maintained. I turned down the narrow trail.

Big mistake!

I got lost! To make a long story short. I ran 6 miles before I found my way back to the office. This is not what I wanted to do! I also ran too fast and completed the 6 miles in 57 minutes. Not blazing fast, but faster than I should go.

Tonight I will ride my bike. I think my own personal Boulder-Boulder set my IT band rehab efforts back a couple of weeks. But it was fun!


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STEPHANON 6/8/2010 2:30PM

    That is just the type of thing that would happen to me - mostly because I have the world's worst sense of direction. I get the feeling you aren't really too sorry for the "accidental" 6 mile run, so glad you had fun. Hope you don't suffer any ill effects with the IT band!

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LKEITHO 6/2/2010 11:00PM

    It sounds like a nice run, but I hope the IT band doesn't act up too much from it!

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CRZYRUNRGRL 6/2/2010 10:10AM

    Well that doesn't sound too bad, it actually sounds like fun! I wish we had trails around where I live!

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ANNASBF 6/2/2010 9:33AM

    Admit it, you enjoyed your adventure and the "oops" nature of it! The "I didn't mean to do it"...snicker snicker... makes is all the more wickedly nifty. However, I am glad you got a little taste of running again without injury so you don't feel as deprived and now you need to grab that fancy schmancy bike and make like the wicked witch of the west! I'm a little bit curious how you can't run but biking doesn't give you trouble. Interesting. Have fun. I liked the part where you want to keep up with your wife on the bike trail. She must be a great Colorado outdoor gal! Good luck to your son in college... Toga Toga Toga....


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NWFL59 6/2/2010 9:08AM

    Congratulations on getting better but a slap against the back of the head for over-doing! You could have really injured yourself and set you progress back to day one! After telling us about your marvelous new bike and how you planned ot use it, maybe you ought to take it to work instead of your running gear and get your need for speed fix using it! Enough of that, so glad to read you're doing and feeling better and I do hope your IT gets restored quickly.

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ELYMWX 6/2/2010 9:08AM

    Beware of unmarked trails! Where I am most of the trails are big loops, and even if you take a side path you end up back where you started...

I'm learning what you mean about it being fun (I get told to be careful all the time) so I won't give you a lot of grief, and all I'll say is I hope you heal soon, and enjoy your bike!


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My New Bike

Monday, May 31, 2010

I have had to cut way back on my running. My IT band is still in the process of healing.

Here is the rub - the weather here is magnificent. The trees have leaves. The sun is warm and inviting. Birds are singing. Wild flowers are blooming. Springtime in the Rockies is finally here. I want to run and run and run. I can't. I can jog a bit. I am good for a mile of two but that is it.

I may not be able to run but I can ride a bike, I have a pretty good mountain bike - a 21-speed Giant Boulder SE.

The bike has an aluminum alloy frame; aluminum hubs and rims, alloy direct-pull cantilever rim brakes, and 100mm travel adjustable front forks. The Boulder SE is a hardtail, which is perfect for the condition we have around here. For $410 the Boulder SE is a lot of bike for the money.

However, my son out grew his Specialized Hardrock. He is starting college is the fall and needs a bike for tooling around campus. Sayonara Boulder SE!

I needed a replacement for the Boulder SE. Maybe it was frustration over not being able to run hard. I like speed and there is a mountain bike that has speed. The name of the bike is even cool. I bought a Specialized Stumpjumper Comp.

This bike is light. The Stumpjumper has 27 speeds and top of the line components. This bike is fast and needs disk brakes to stop. The coolest feature is lock-out forks that makes the forks rigid so the bike doesn't bounce when you stand-up and really crank. List price is $1,950 and you have to purchase the pedals separately. I got the bike for $1,650.

I now enjoy going for a fast ride and coming home to do my physical therapy. Biking allows me to stay in some semblance of shape. I can also run a bit. I have to run slowly. In the meantime, I can get a speed rush on my new bike. The best part of biking is that my wife will ride with me. She won't run with me. She sees biking as a family togetherness thing.

She has a Specialized Myka HT Expert. Her bike cost $1,000 so she didn't mind my extravagant purchase. The geometry of a women's bike is different than a men's bike. My wife was happy when she got her Myka. She had been riding a men's bike. My daughter has a Giant Boulder SE that she likes.

My wife is planning a 44 mile bike ride over Guanella Pass. I really needed a fast bike to keep up. Guanella Pass climbs to 11,700 feet and is very scenic.

That little white line in the photo is Guanella Pass.

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GAZELK 6/8/2010 11:08PM

    I'm having foot problems and only run once a week, so I am now enjoying bicycling for my exercise. I love your Stumpjumper. I have a Surly Long Haul Trucker touring bicycle right now, but I'd like to get a mountain bike for some different kind of fun.

I hope you have fun with your new wheels.

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DAVEW175 6/1/2010 10:09PM

    Have fun on your bike!

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    I am so glad to hear that you have come up with a way to stay active even though you cannot do the thing that you love the most which is running. You may even learn to love biking. Who knows, it sure is better than not being able to do anything at all. Enjoy the new bike and your new way of exercising and being with your wife. I am glad for all the new things that are coming your way and you will love it. emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon You are a winner and nothing can ever stop you from attaining what you have set your heart and mind to do.

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SNERK14 6/1/2010 10:03AM

  Biking is great for you! Runners who cross train with other sports actually improve their running. I am trying to fit some biking/swimming into my schedule. Who knows- you might actually end up improving your running time with all your biking. Good luck and have fun!

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NWFL59 6/1/2010 9:26AM

    Your alternative to running sounds like a lot of fun and give you time to heal properly while still getting a good energy burn. Y'all have lots of fun this summer!

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LKEITHO 5/31/2010 10:42PM

    Sounds like a great bike! And getting to do some trips with your wife will be great, I'm sure. I often wish my wife was able to do some of my events with me. Enjoy it!

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IRONGRANNIE 5/31/2010 10:32PM

    Oh we do enjoy a bit of "bike porn". I am soo envious! I only have an old, heavy bike handed down from SIL! I hardly ever ride it but I used to ride a lot.

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_HOLLY 5/31/2010 8:40PM

    Nice bikes! My husband hates running with me but will bike whenever I want, too. We have been biking a lot more this summer. :)

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CRZYRUNRGRL 5/31/2010 8:31PM

    Awesome bikes! I want a new bike too.
I have been dealing with ITB issues too so I feel your pain, do you have a foam roller to help work it out? That and the stick have been helping a lot.
Enjoy the bike!

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ELYMWX 5/31/2010 8:26PM

    Sounds like a great time to be had by all! Glad to hear you've found a solution to not being able to run (much) while your IT band heals. Enjoy the sound of the wind (and branches) whipping by your ears!

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Just Do IT

Sunday, May 23, 2010

I have been bad.

On May 10th, during a 4 mile training run my left iliotibial band (IT band) decided it had had enough abuse and rebelled. My darn IT band exploded in pain. I was running really well when my IT band gave up the ghost.

I spent the next 11 days working on rehab. I rested. I stretched. I did strengthen exercises with a therapy band. I had 3 more weeks of this really boring routine to go. To quote Popeye the cartoon sailor, "That's all I can stands, cuz I can't stands n'more"

Rather than blame myself for my misery, I decided to blame my shoes! I thought I must need a stability shoe. I grabbed my running stuff and my old shoes. I made a sojourn to one of the best running shoe stores in the world called the Boulder Running Company.

I walked into the store carrying my old Nike Pegasus shoes and was helped by a humorless young man. He knew his stuff so I tolerated his dead-pan attitude. I told him about my IT band problems. I changed into my running shorts and my old shoes. I jumped on one of the treadmills for a video analysis of my gait.

By the way, I HATE running on a treadmill! I have heard people say they have run 4 miles on a treadmill. Although a treadmill is a good way to get some exercise, you don't go anywhere. When I run 4 miles I end up 4 miles from where I started. If I am on a treadmill I stay in one place! But I digress, which is nothing new.

So I am running on the treadmill and the video camera is going. He keeps increasing the speed. He asks, "Is that too fast?" I say, "No, my exploded IT band likes going 30 miles an hour!" He responds, "That is not 30 miles an hour and there is no such thing as an exploded IT band!" Eventually he stops treadmill. While we were watching the video he gave me the bad news. He tells me my ankles are in perfect alignment with centerline of my shoes. He says, "You are in the right shoe." I joked, “I would rather blame the shoes for my problem." He says, "Have you increased your mileage lately." I respond, "Yeah, I have", He asks "Have you been stretching and doing your PT exercises?" I go, "Heck no, those are boring," He puffs up and says, "You have to take personal responsibility to prevent injuries." I am too nice a guy. I say, “Thank you for your words of wisdom. Can we try a stability shoe now?” He says, “Ok, you are the boss.”

He pulls out a Nike stability shoe. I put the shoe and I immediately know the shoe ain’t right. I jumped on the treadmill. After three strides the humorless clerk stopped the machine. He says, “That shoe is not going to work.” I agree, “Oh brother those shoes hurt like heck!” He shows me the video. My ankles are rolling outward something fierce.
Sometimes I wonder if a runner buys the wrong type of brand XYZ shoes and after a few painful miles declares XYZ shoes to be a horrible brand. My wife looks at my pile of Nike shoes and blasts, “How can you wear those awful Nike shoes! They suck!”

I still needed new shoes. My old shoes were pretty much annihilated. He tells me he has no Nike Pegasus in stock. I have my older Nike Pegasus +25s and my newer Pegasus +26s with me. He asks what size I wear. I wear a 13 XD. I tell him the +25 shoes feel great but the +26 shoes do not feel as good. He looks at the +26s and tells me the shoes are XE’s. The shoes are the wrong size! Bingo! It could be the shoes.

He asks me what I want to spend on shoes. The Pegasus cost $85. I tell him I will spend whatever it takes to get a good shoe. He brings out a pair of Nike Zoom Vomero +5s. The shoes jump on my feet. He tells me to go outside and run on the shoes. I take the shoes for a spin. They feel great and are very cushy ride. The shoes are also extremely light! $142 dollars later I have new shoes. All that jazzy hi-tech wiz-bang feather-light stylish swooshiness costs a lot of money.

I was down in Denver. The temperature was an unbelievable 90 degrees F. After 9 months of running in freezing temperatures I wanted to run in hot weather. I don’t care if the IT band hurts. I am going running. I am an addict! To make a long story short, I ran for 40 minutes and enjoyed every step.

I am back!

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ROOT4HOME 5/23/2010 4:41PM

    Congrat's on your new Nike Zoom Vomero's!! I have always been a Nike wearer, with a pair of Vomero's (Pegasus was my 1st ever running shoe) myself but had to switch to Asics b/c I was over pronating at my left ankle. I still love the shoes, so comfy, but they're my walk around shoes now! emoticon

But I gotta tell you your blog was too funny...those exchanges between you and the young deadpan clerk were too funny!! emoticon

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NWFL59 5/23/2010 4:29PM

    Congratulations on finding and getting a new pair of running shoes and going for a pleasureable run afterwards to break you and them in. Hope your IT doesn't give you anymore problems and that you stick with the boring PT and other preventative measures. Glad you like it hot as it is 96 here in my part of FL today and I'm staying indoors!

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ELYMWX 5/23/2010 2:52PM

    Glad to hear you're back running! Now watch yourself huh? Or at least (try to) be more careful?

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LKEITHO 5/23/2010 1:39PM

    Congratulations on being back to running! Unfortunately, the right shoe can sometimes be pretty pricey. And the other thing that gets to me is that every time I find a shoe that works for me, they 'upgrade' it or change it in some way so that it no longer works. I've taken to buying 2 or 3 pairs at a time when I find something I really like.

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STEPHANON 5/23/2010 1:38PM

    Woo hoo for new shoes! Glad you found a great pair.

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GSCOTTC 5/23/2010 1:27PM

    Knock on wood I have never had problems with my IT band. Watch this I am going to have problems now that I am back in marathon training.

I cannot help myself with people that have no sense of HA HA! The more deadpan they are the more outrages my comments are! My wife usually just walks away in embarrassment. Life is too short not to laugh.

Glad you had a good run IT band and all.


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LIVE2RUN4LIFE 5/23/2010 12:57PM

    Have you tried using a foam roller on your IT band? It can work wonders on breaking up the muscle adhesions that lead to a lot of the pain. Of course, you still need to discover the root cause and correct that. Perhaps you'll get lucky and fix it with the new shoes. With women, the first suspect is weak (or imbalanced) hip muscles. Muscle tightness or lack of flexibility in the gluts or quadriceps can also be a source.

So can leg length discrepancies. The latter was my problem. My right leg is slightly shorter than my left and I had mild IT band issues only on my right side after runs over 15 miles. When I corrected this with a 1/8 inch flat insole in my right shoe, all my IT band issues disappeared.

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HARRINGTON5 5/23/2010 12:49PM

    WooHoo! Congratulations, you do know how to get the job done. I am glad you found a remedy. It is really wonderful when you can enjoy the run. I love stories with a good ending. If clothes make the man, it certainly seems like the right shoes make the runner.

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IT Band Rehab - One More Time

Sunday, May 16, 2010

Almost every runner I know has nagging recurring injuries. Some have trouble with feet. My daughter battles plantar fasciitis. Knees give a lot of runners problems. My wife has knees that tend to pop and swell. A guy at my work is a triathlete. He has weak ankles and is often limping after an event.

My injury of choice is iliotibial band syndrome, also called IT band friction syndrome. The IT band is a strong thick fibrous tissue that runs on the outside of the leg from the hip to the knee. The IT band stabilizes the knee and the quadriceps. The IT band is attached to a muscle above the hip called the Tensor fasciae latae muscle, or TFL for short.

The TFL muscle and the IT band are vital when lifting the foot and driving it forward, aka running. The TFL and IT band stabilizes the leg so other more powerful muscles can drive the runner forward.

A tight IT band causes excessive friction over the hip bursa. The bursa becomes inflamed. The TFL can strain and tear. Then it is sayonara to your knees, hips, gluteal muscles and hamstrings. What does this feel like? It feels like a red hot spike has been driven into your hip and your knee has been hit with a hammer. The area between your pelvis and hip is on fire. An article I read said, "Pain can literally bring a runner to his/her knees". I think that is an understatement!

I really have no one to blame but myself. The pain is always on my left side. I had a flare-up last summer and went into intense physical therapy. Once I was able to run again, which took 6 weeks; the therapists gave me a set of stretches and strengthening exercises to prevent a future injury. I did those exercises for a while, but they were really boring so I stopped. Bad idea!

So what have I been doing to recover? Nothing! I am resting to give the inflammation time to subside. Tomorrow I start a regime of stretching and therapy band exercises. I can do some cardio on my elliptical trainer, but not too much. I can't run.

This really sucks!


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SSMITH456 2/18/2011 2:46PM

  It may be late, but I went through the same thing training for a Marathon last year. Just a few thoughts, things I did, and things I have found.
Best thing to do is stretches. Keep doing them. Also make friends with a Foam roller. It helped me. I also started to se a chiro that was certified in ART. That helped. I discovered that my hips were out of alignment making one leg a little shorter (thank you bad posture sitting behind my computer). I got some realignments done through my chiro and worked on my posture. Also check out this link
there are a lot of good tips.

This year I will be doing my first full marathon

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DAVEW175 5/17/2010 1:13PM

    Sorry to hear about your IT band problems. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

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RAINTHIEF 5/17/2010 1:41AM

    Aw, that stinks! Rest, stretch it out a bit, and focus on arm and core exercises to give your legs a rest. Feel better soon!

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STEPHANON 5/16/2010 4:31PM

    oh, how awful. i hope you recover quickly and are able to run again soon. sounds like a painful lesson learned.

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NWFL59 5/16/2010 10:03AM

    Congratulations on already know the proper steps you need to take to restore yourself back to running condition. Godspeed in yourself directed therapy and let hope this time you'll stick to the preventative stretches/exercises you learned previously.

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LKEITHO 5/16/2010 8:48AM

    Hope you are back in top form soon! And you're right, sometimes we don't take proper care of ourselves for all the wrong reasons. Hope getting back onto your stretching program helps keep you out of trouble down the road!

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RUNNINGPFUHL 5/16/2010 8:36AM

    I am so sorry. "no running" does indeed suck!

SPEEDY recovery to you my friend! Healing Vibes comin' your way!

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PRINCESSNURSE 5/16/2010 7:34AM

    The hardest thing I had to do during my hallf marathon traing was REST when my IT band flared up....keep doing the exercises and rest. Even though it totally stinks while you are doing it, it is worth it!

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MOMJMGR 5/16/2010 7:16AM

    I feel your pain, literally! I have IT band problems too and it is always on my left side as well. I think it is because of the running outdoors towards traffic that the road is slightly slanted so with all of the running with my foot slightly turning outward it really does its toll on my left side. I ran 10 miles yesterday and was feeling good, no pain, till the 5 mile mark then I could feel it tightening up in my left hip and glute muscle. By the time I got home and had stopped running my left outside of my knee is HURTING!! I have to ice and stretch it after almost every run but usually by the next day it is better. I hope you heel soon and get back on the road. I have been using the IT band stretches off of runners world site to know what to do and I hope to get a Foam roller in a couple of weeks.

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IRONGRANNIE 5/16/2010 2:54AM

    That is awful! I hope you will soon be up and running and doing those exercises, boring or not!

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ELYMWX 5/16/2010 1:55AM

    Yeah, that really sucks! All I can say is I wish you a SPEEDY recovery.

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Race Report - Lake George 5K

Saturday, May 08, 2010

I am really starting to like quirky little mountain trial races. These races are not listed on any web site. Advertisement is largely by word of mouth. The organization is informal and somewhat amateurish. There are no race packs or electronic timing chips. Races do not start on time. Bibs are made with ink jet printers or by hand.

What do you get for your $15 entry fee?

You get to run on interesting and challenging terrain. The settings are beautiful and remote. The fields are small. The racers are extremely friendly. The organizers are happy to see you. There is a bond among the runners. These are hard races. Just showing up earns you respect. Nobody cares who wins. Even the winner doesn’t care.

High-altitude mountain races are not everybody’s cup of tea. The runners tend to be confident, poised and usually pretty darn fast. There is no such thing as a PR. The conditions and terrain are so variable that time is irrelevant.

Earlier today my son and I ran the in Lake George 5K. Ben is my oldest boy and is pushing 30. He can’t resist a trail race. I called him last night to invite him to the race. I knew he would be hooked. We had to leave at 6:00 am this morning to make the race. The race was a fair distance away over winding mountain roads.

When we arrived at Lake George the temperature was 33.8 degrees F. The wind was 11 mph gusting to 19 mph. I really didn’t know what to wear. The wind was very cold but the sun was shining. I considered wearing my fleece pull-over and long pants. In the end, I decided to wear a heavy long sleeve T-shirt, shorts and a headband. I was plenty warm during the race.

Lake George is at 8,200 feet of elevation. The course varied between 8,200 and 8,700 feet. There is not a lot air this high. At least I live and train at this altitude. The air is dry. The sun is bright white. Sunburn and cracked lips are a problem. In the cold a runny nose is annoying.

The field was pretty normal for a high-altitude race. There were 37 runners. I bet this was the smallest race on May 8th in the state of Colorado. Right before the race started, Ben looked around at everyone lined up at the starting line. He said to me, “Hey dad - I think you are the oldest and heaviest runner here!” I looked at him and shook my head, “Thanks Ben – that is exactly what I needed to hear!” The Starter blasted over a bull horn, “Runners get ready - GO!”

The course started on a narrow dirt road and was flat for ¼ mile. After the flat stretch the course went up a long hill. Why do these courses always have a long hill at the beginning? My Garmin recorded that this hill was ½ mile long at a 10% grade, which is not bad. After the first hill the course started to roll up and down. The course would go up for an 1/8 of a mile, and then down for an 1/8 of mile. Eventually we dropped down near the water and ran across a flood control dam near the west end of the reservoir. This was really pretty. The water was clear and crystal blue. The top of the dam was flat and I could really get rolling. At the end of dam the course turned left and went down a narrow path. The path went through Buck Brush and Pussy Willows. These scrubby trees smacked against me and hurt a bit. Since I was the widest person in the race, I think I took the worst of it!

The course then went over another flood control dam at the eastern end of the reservoir. At the end of the dam and course went up a very steep hill. When I got to the top of the hill I saw the most amazing sight. A long set of stairs snaked up the hill in front of me. These stairs were made of railroad ties and dirt. The stairs were equal to about 5 flights. Each stair was 2 to 3 feet long. I tried to bound up the stairs. Man did that hurt!

After climbing the stairs I could see the finish line off in the distance. I was really hurting! This last part of this course was hard. I drove to the finish line. Ben was already there cheering me on. As I crossed the finish line the time keeper called out 27:36! I thought that was pretty fast. I was pleased.

I moved out of the way, bent over and put my hands on my knees. I was breathing like a freight train. Ben came over and asked, “Do you want to know how you placed?” I gave him a breathless, “I don’ care!” He said, “You would care if you knew.” I snapped, “Ok Ben, how did I do?” He goes, “Well if you don’t care, I won’t tell you that you took 4th place!” I was shocked, “No way!”

Two high school cross-county runners took 1st and 2nd. These guys were wearing their cold weather Cripple Creek cross-country uniforms. I found out later that 1st place kid has an athletic scholarship to run for the Air Force Academy. Ben took 3rd and I took 4th. There was another guy running that was 50. (I am 53) He came in about 5 minutes behind me. I gave him a high-five and said, “Old guys rule!”

This is Ben. He is having shoulder surgery on Tuesday. He said his shoulder was "wonky" but he could run.

Here I am after the race. The temperature had warmed up to 36 degrees F when this photo was taken.

This is Lake George. I had this photo in an earlier blog. I just think it is a really pretty picture.

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MOMJMGR 5/16/2010 11:37AM

    emoticon job!! Wow 4th place that is fantastic. I wouldn't make it a mile in colorado, lol I live in FLAT Kansas. Sounds like such a beautiful run.

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HARRINGTON5 5/10/2010 7:37PM

    Bruce, You are fantastic! Your pictures are wonderful and you must really be so proud with that fantastic time. I honestly don't know how you run in those conditions. My races are all pretty flat and I still find it a challenge. On the 29th, I am running a race with my friend that is a cancer survivor and has asthma. It will be her first race and I will be so proud just to run by her side and keep her encouraged. I know she will be so pleased just to finish the race.

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    You've gotta love those kids that just keep poking you, right?! Well done! You actually make this sound so fun that I think I want to try one. Very cool little runs. Wonder if they have them in my area? Hmmmm.....

Congrats, "old" guy!

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ON2VICTORY 5/9/2010 4:21PM

    DUDE! that had to have been cool and that is an impressive time in spite of the terrain. Ironman anyone? :) Woo Hoo!

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TRIGRAMPS 5/9/2010 2:43PM

    My race was a little jaunt compared to yours. Still haven't done any trail runs. They do them ever so ofter at Clifton Gorge near here, but the trail is so narrow, seems like passing would be rough. Plus, they usually think that running across the creek is fun. What kind of shoes do you wear? Have you done an Xterra triathlon?

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RUNNINGPFUHL 5/9/2010 9:03AM

    What an excellent Race report! emoticon for 4th place!! AWESOME!!

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JADERUNNING 5/9/2010 6:52AM

    Awesome! Nice run! Happy Trais to ya! Way to go! Hey was you bib number "1" ? Wow an elite runner! Woo Hoo!

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GSCOTTC 5/8/2010 11:07PM

    Very, Very Cool I join the 50 crowd this year. I hope to do 1/2 as well as you do!

Congrats on the race.


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LKEITHO 5/8/2010 10:49PM

    What a spectacular place to run a race! And what a great finish! Congratulations!

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WILLOW_1956 5/8/2010 10:46PM

    Wow! That is quite an accomplishment! Sounds beautiful.


Thanks for sharing!

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NWFL59 5/8/2010 10:43PM

    Wow what a terrific account of your run. Congratulations on doing so well!

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TRIGRAMPS 5/8/2010 10:42PM

    Old guys rule!

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DAVIDMU89 5/8/2010 10:37PM

    Nice work, great race! And the scenery wasn't bad either!

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