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Wardrobe and Hunger

Thursday, June 24, 2010

I bought a whole wardrobe at size 10 because I thought I was done losing. Then I bought a whole wardrobe at size 8 because I thought I was done. I didn't jump on buying 6's because I didn't think I'd stay there. But when I got down to a 4, the 8's were just too big. I'm still not convinced I can stay a 4 but I sure am trying. I like being a size 4.

I read on a Weight Watcher message board that I'm at the 4 percentile. (The info was not sourced so I don't vouch for accuracy.) In women over 50 who are 5'6" tall, 96 percent weigh more than my weight of 128. Isn't that amazing for someone who was off the chart the other way as a child and teen?

I don't sense that maintaining at a size 4 is really any more difficult than maintaining at an 8 or 10. It seems like whatever point or calorie goal I set, I usually want 10% more on most days and 50% more once or twice a month or so.

So far I'm absolutely unable to eat intuitively. I have tried to track my hunger and satisfaction as Weight Watchers recommends. My hunger is just not indicative of what I should be eating. I'm less hungry when I'm working out. The more I sit, the more I want to eat. Isn't that backwards? So I have to decide what I should be eating and eat it. My stomach doesn't have a clue.

Anyone else undertand this phenomenon? Anyone get in touch with their true hunger after having repeated difficulty? If so, how did you do it?

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BESTSUSIEYET 6/27/2010 8:15PM

    Hi Marsha - thanks for your kind words about our vacation! I was amazed at how little we ate during the day, and yet I didn't walk around feeling hungry! I remember thinking I'd LIKE a little trail mix now -- but it wasn't my tummy talking. Keeping those snacks to little ones was key, I think. I wasn't starving by dinner time either.

As to your question -- I think I'm getting to a point where I feel full and tell myself to stop. Sometimes it's with just a bite or 2 left on my plate; sometimes earlier in the meal. I don't always listen, but am learning to do so. I don't like the FULL feeling that used to end each meal. I wish I could tell you HOW I'm doing that -- but I don't know. I am just glad that I'm starting to wise up! God Bless You as you continue your Journey to Health!

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SLIMMERJESSE 6/26/2010 11:20AM

    WOW! That's amazing. I don't think I was every a size 4-even as a kid!

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MONTY68 6/24/2010 5:39PM

    Hi Marsha
Again, I want to congratulate you on your success, I understand sizes a little and I think a size 4 would be very small, I have a question, You did comment that you weren't sure that you could stay a size 4, so my question would be if your weight stayed the same, wouldn't the clothes size stay the same? Is clothes size different then maintaining weight?
As far as my hunger goes, I eat 3 meals and then snacks at night and always tracking to stay within my range. I am usually on the low end, Recently instead of eating fruit, I now put it all together and I call it a smoothe, everything that goes in is tracked. I do eat what I want, I don't even think of it being what my stomach wants. I am comfortable with what I choose, and I feel that I could eat anything as long as I have allowed for it. To give an example of what I wouldn't do, my neighbor gave me 9 creamed filled chocolate brownies a 1/2 of a cherry pie. I did not eat one bite and I did dump them into the garbage, I just didn't want them sitting around screaming at me to eat them. I don't know if that is something that only happens to some one on maintenance or would a number of people feel the same way. I think for me, would have been if he brought one brownie, I would have analyzed my calories and maybe ate it.
So again, again you have done wonderful and I really think that you will continue to stay at the same weight and size.

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HAPPYSOUL91 6/24/2010 3:38PM

    Great job on the sizes. I have mouth hunger 99% of the time and my stomach just don't know this, which is a problem.

Body sizes are so different, I weigh 131 and it is a size 10 for me

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WILD4STARS 6/24/2010 2:55PM

    Unfortunately my stomach is ruled by my taste buds. There are certain things that I just can't eat, not even one bite.

Thanks for the Gold Star Spark Goodie, I am wild for stars!!
emoticonMake it a great weekend and Happy Sparking.

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SLENDERELLA61 6/24/2010 2:46PM

    Annie, Thanks for the source. It actually says I'm at the 3rd percentile! So cool. Thanks again. -Marsha

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WALKINGANNIE 6/24/2010 1:30PM

    Oh yes Marsha, I understand the phenomenon.

According to the calculator at

I'm in the 2nd percentile. I find this astonishing but I'm in the same position as you. I can't do this alone. My stomach still needs much more training before I can risk letting it dictate what I eat. I can't imagine being free of tracking.

The good news is that tracking is an available option. I regard it now as beeing a prop for my impaired appetite in the same way as my reading glasses aid my imperfect eyesight. I'm very glad of both support mechanisms!


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KALIGIRL 6/24/2010 1:29PM

    I'm with you - still trying to figure out what to eat since I'm adding new healthy endeavors to my journey. I nibble all day, so really don't get hungry. Would be interesting to go back to three meals and see what the body says.
Congrats on the size 4!

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    Oh, I have no answer because I also have a stomach with no clue! I'm not sure if it is because of going 50 years with eating for comfort, eating because it was there, eating because it tasted good, eating because I wanted to get my money's worth, or just eating out of boredom, but my tummy just doesn't give me many indications unless I've way overeaten and it's too late to do much about that! That is where the nutrition chart saves my hide! I have to use it, and probably will for a long time to come, unless I memorize things enough to have the structure without going by my proper "hunger." Well, I gave you no answers, but at least you know you're not alone! emoticon

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DONNABRIGHT 6/24/2010 12:14PM

    Great article - thanks again!

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JHADZHIA 6/24/2010 11:46AM

    Congratulations on your sizes! Well done! Strange, I weigh a little less than you, but I am in size 10 or 12's and I am very fine boned. I got into a size 10 bathing suit yesterday, was a little loose but needed to get into it easy because of my broken elbow. I can't help you with whats going on with your hunger. I feel hungry after my power workouts and that is when I eat a good breakfast. I don't feel like lunch, but have it any way. The only time I feel hungry again is after I get home from the bridge club (maybe its stress hunger lol), too soon for supper so I usually have a snack to make up calories I need for the day.
If you are used to sitting and snacking in front of the TV or whatever, that is a powerful habit and hard to get out of. You may have been conditioned to that response, that as soon as you sit, its time for a snack. I got that way with my popcorn. Every night would come home, plunk in front of the TV and have a popcorn. So I gave up the popcorn, and later also the TV. Don't miss the TV, but will have the odd popcorn at my Mom's. Sparks also suggests its from boredom too. I hope you can solve it, we would all like the answer to that one!

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MERALO 6/24/2010 11:15AM

    I understand the phenomenon but my problem is the reverse...I just don't eat all day and then I inhale everything within a few feet because I'm so hungry. It's taken me months to train myself to eat 3 meals a day (I still don't snack, I just can't get myself to do it) but ever so easily I can slip back into the old habit of not eating all day.

Tracking my food when I do this is hard because I actually don't remember a lot of what I eat and when I do, it's really high-calorie stuff. With conscious effort every day, I plan my day-time meals and force myself to eat them quietly...then I find the evenings are a breeze. I don't trust myself yet to just wing it...I'm still fuelling my body thoughtfully and in a pre-meditated manner.

And WELL DONE on that new size'll maintain it just fine...

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Will Work For Stars

Wednesday, June 23, 2010

As an admitted reward junkie, I am excited because I just found one more place where SparkPeople gives recognition. And it is extra exciting because it is for just about the most important thing that can be measured on SparkPeople. It's not a trophy or one of those monthly awards, although I like them all. It doesn't show up on my SparkPage. But it is there, when I earn it. And the reward tells me at a glance how I am really doing with my program.

Did you know that when you stay within your calorie range, you get a STAR, and a yellow-gold star at that, right on your SparkSummary Calendar?? Go to your Start page and down on the left hand column click on SparkSummary Calendar and, if you have any days you have stayed within your calorie range and tracked it, a star will appear on that day! How cool!

Since I was a little kid I would do almost anything to earn a star. I really do know that the only approval I need is my own; external validation is just not necessary. But I know me. I'll work for stars!

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HAPPYSOUL91 6/24/2010 2:09PM

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just for you! love to mark my calendar with happy smile stickers when I have met my exercise goal or portion control goal

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KALIGIRL 6/24/2010 1:55PM

    Love rewards!

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WALKINGANNIE 6/24/2010 2:55AM

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You keep on earning them!

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XENA1956 6/24/2010 12:33AM

    I wasn't aware of this either. Will have to look to see how many I have this month. Thanks for the info. Use to love to get those gold stars in school. emoticon

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MONTY68 6/23/2010 10:17PM

    Hi Marsha

Thank you, I never knew it was there. I have 4 days without a star emoticon. But all 4 days were under, 1 was 2 calories less. I can live with that , but it really gives a lot of info.

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MOMMA_GRIZZ 6/23/2010 9:33PM

    Oh WOW - I absolutely love gold stars! Thanks :D

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LIBRATAH 6/23/2010 9:30PM

    I'll have to check this out, I didn't know this, thanks.

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    WOW! I did not know this! How cool is THIS!? Thank you so much for this information, my sweet friend! I'm running right over to see my stars! There'd better be some, or I'm in trouble! *grin*

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WATERMELLEN 6/23/2010 8:40PM

    Thanks for the info: will have to check this out!!

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JHADZHIA 6/23/2010 8:26PM

    Wow! I didn't know that!! Thanks for letting us know!!

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WILD4STARS 6/23/2010 8:11PM

    OMG! Wish I had known that. I have a whole pocket full of gold stars at all times. Next trip to Circle B, I'll make sure you get loaded with gold stars. I sprinkle them every where I go. I am the Star Giver !!

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ONEKIDSMOM 6/23/2010 8:08PM

    What? I don't have to put my own stickers on the calendar? But I LIKE my little sticky stars... right now, I've got one a day since about last Christmas... my stars are for a soda-free day!

But I see a kindred spirit there... "will work for stars", indeed!


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Retail Therapy

Tuesday, June 22, 2010

Today I went shopping. Instead of going to my favorite store where I frequent the 70% off and final sale rack, I went to an upscale shopping area. I thoroughly enjoyed trying on expensive things in little sizes. It really is the first time I've done it since I lost this weight.

It was a great pick-me-up to see that, despite a few days of less than perfect eating, I still fit in those small petites and little things I've always aspired to wear. I splurged on a great turquoise tank top, outer shirt, and fancy black and silver belt. Wow!! My motivation is back for sure! -Marsha

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WALKINGANNIE 6/23/2010 4:36PM

    You've worked so hard for this reward Marsha. Glad that you're re-Sparked!


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KALIGIRL 6/23/2010 1:14PM

    Way cool pictures please!

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TBRANCH2 6/22/2010 10:43PM

    Good for you!!! You deserve it!!

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FRAN0426 6/22/2010 8:57PM

    You have earned that shopping trip, glad you had a great time at the upscale shopping area.

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JHADZHIA 6/22/2010 8:06PM

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Its the person wearing the clothes that makes them look great -and you look fabulous!!

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EMBRACE_SUCCESS 6/22/2010 6:12PM

    Sounds great! Pictures pretty please:)

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HAPPYSOUL91 6/22/2010 5:12PM

    Love when you stated "expensive things in little sizes", that is one of the pure pleasures of losing weight. Glad you have fun

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    Marsha, that sounds like SO MUCH FUN! I think I want to go shopping up north when I go to see my daughter! Lori

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MONTY68 6/22/2010 4:51PM

that is so exciting. You have worked hard on you and I am telling you that you are going to reap all kind of fringe bonus's from today's experience. And if may say, you will look awesome.

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PRINCEZLEAH 6/22/2010 4:33PM

    All I can say is Right On! emoticon

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You've Got to Read this DailySpark if You are Anything Like Me!!

Monday, June 21, 2010

I read the Daily Spark, "Conquering Eating and Other Impulses the Easy Way", a couple days ago. I read a lot of Spark articles, sometimes because I'm just racking up SparkPoints and sometimes to kill time so I'm not eating and sometimes because I really want the information. In this case I started reading just to get the points, but I found myself not just skimming it, but going back to reread it slowly.

Yet I didn't think of it when I gave into an impulse to eat the day before yesterday. But I did think about it when I was trying to digest my impulse eating, learn the lesson, and improve my eating behavior. I went back and reread it.

Here is the core of it:
"...we do have two selves, or at least two different voices in our heads. One is the normal, everyday stream of thinking and impulses that drives our actions. The second, which is much more powerful and stable, allows us to observe those thoughts and impulses. In the phrase, "I like myself,"......"myself" is the Observed; the "I" is the Observer that does the liking.

Unfortunately, our Observers are usually dormant, and the Observed becomes the Unobserved. We then become slaves to our impulses and our often-dysfunctional thoughts, worries, fears, etc. When the Observer kicks in, you realize that you're much more than the sum total of your thoughts and impulses. Then you can rule them, not vice versa.

Read more:

So the writer is saying that when we have an impulse we can use our Observer to recognize it as an impulse, and then decide whether to act on that impulse or not. So simple.

Yesterday I found it surprisingly effective. Last eve I wanted something to eat. I was envisioning the refrigerator and cabinet and what my choices were at the time. When I suddenly thought, "This desire to eat is an impulse." I'm not really hungry. I don't have to act on this impulse. And the impulse left!!

I have a strong feeling that this technique is just what I need to overcome my remaining eating behavior problem. Time will tell whether this is THE technique or one tool in the tool box. I'm observing that I'm getting stronger in my ability to analyze my behaviors and change them to become the person I want to be. Thanks, SparkPeople, for a new tool to help me!!

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SULLIS 6/22/2010 1:35PM

    Thanks for pointing out that article. It makes so much sense. I'm going to start paying more attention to how I react to "impulses".

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KALIGIRL 6/22/2010 1:28PM

    Sounds like a great tool and another way to reach mindfulness.
Thank you.

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MARYMAC45 6/21/2010 7:10PM

    Great blog. I read that article too. I try to use as much of the info that I can. I've had some success.

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MEXGAL1 6/21/2010 5:11PM

    Thanks so much for reading and sharing with us.

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AQUAGIRL08 6/21/2010 4:42PM

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WALKINGANNIE 6/21/2010 2:40PM

    Thanks for the reminder Marsha. It's a great article and very helpful.

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EMBRACE_SUCCESS 6/21/2010 1:52PM

    I really enjoyed that blog too and was thinking that it would be a handy tool to have in my arsenal!

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HAPPYSOUL91 6/21/2010 12:02PM

    Good article, impulses always gets me into trouble. Being able to analyze my behaviors and then change it before regret is such a good thing

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MONTY68 6/21/2010 11:52AM

It was a fantastic article, I usually skim through is blogs also, but I did read it and it makes so much sense and a great way to stop or slow down impulse eating. Thanks for reminding us.

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JOHAL52 6/21/2010 11:51AM

    Thanks Marsha! I read the blog and yes, I can relate to it! Especially as I have an 11 pound cat sitting on my lap that wasn't there last Thursday emoticon.

I also wish I'd read it yesterday as I scarfed down lots of sugar again. But, one day at a time, one impulse at a time....

Thanks for your blog Marsha! I always enjoy reading it.

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DONNABRIGHT 6/21/2010 11:38AM

    I read it, also and found it very interesting. I have been trying to implement it today and am having some success. I'm sure it gets easier over time.

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    I read this late last night, and boy did I ever relate to it, too! I am going to do these things and I believe it will really help! Thanks for sharing it! emoticonLori

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Past the Blahs

Sunday, June 20, 2010

Yesterday I was feeling too blah to blog. But I'm back on it today. The scale is up, but only .8 pounds. I'll live. I'll even stay a healthy weight. And I'm trying to give up the "yelling" at myself when I slip.

I wish I could be perfect. I mean perfect when it comes to eating, but I think I best accept that isn't going to happen. After 60 years of struggling with eating, I am not changing into a different person. I need to take it just one day at a time. I need to celebrate all my healthy eating and activity successes. And I need the slips to just slip away without much acknowledgement.

My slips have become smaller and less frequent. I don't know why I felt so discouraged yesterday. It was way out of proportion to the situation. Oh, well. Yesterday is gone and I'm committed to healthy eating, healthy activity and healthy thinking about food today! -Marsha

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MONTY68 6/20/2010 9:08PM

    Hi Marsha
So you gained 12 oz. or .8 pound. What happened? emoticon. That is the problem with a digital scale. I know my old scale which was really hard to read the little numbers would not have shown that. You know that it could be any number of things , even drinking a glass of water. I know that this hasn't effected anything in your life. You have done a fantastic job on yourself and are a inspiration to many people.
So you had a case of the blahs, I understand that it goes around and affects many of us. A new age person might say your biorhythms might be off, it could have been the moon or it could be you just didn't feel like writing a blog. The good thing is there doesn't have to be a reason and certainly one doesn't have to feel guilty about it. But Marsha has one of the best attitudes . I have seen, is excited and motivated about living this new healthy lifestyle and would not allow a blah to consume her.
If you didn't know it, you do more exercising in one day as a number of people might do in a week. That is why you are so successful and since we have met, you have continually motivated me.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.


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AQUAGIRL08 6/20/2010 2:49PM

    Marsha you are doing a wonderful job! My guess is that you didn't sleep well on Friday night, Saturday it was hot and sticky and you may have a lot of things you want to accomplish right now. When you are tired .8 of a pound seems like a huge amount. If you slept well last night and feel better today, it doesn't seem like such a big deal right now but it did then. I'm the same way. Being hot and tired makes you feel you don't want to do anything. Feeling rested gives you energy and lifts your spirits. You are normal and you're doing great! Keep up the good work!

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WALKINGANNIE 6/20/2010 12:16PM

    Glad you're over the blah but whatever you did , it's only one day in a trend of progressively better days and habits - and I agree with others about the 0.8. It could be water weight and is probably a temporary fluctuation.

Realistically, perfection probably isn't going to happen for any of us. If perfection means denial and deprivation then it probably isn't a healthy aim anyway.

Would you yell at any of us if we slipped a bit? Of course not. Time for that positive self-talk.

You're doing just fine Marsha. Progress not perfection.... and just look back at your fantastic progress!!


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JHADZHIA 6/20/2010 11:33AM

    Wow .8!! I am glad my scale doesn't measure fractions or I would surely go batty!!
Ease up on yourself Marsha! I can't see an single person living a healthy lifestyle that doesn't go off the rails and slip up once in a while. Its called giving our human nature a wild break. What is really important, is that you are getting right back down to the healthy lifestyle when the wilding is over! You are doing this! You are a success! And you are only human, like the rest of us!

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HAPPYSOUL91 6/20/2010 10:32AM

    I believe we all these kinds of days, it is just part of life. But as you said "yesterday is gone" and today is another day.

Enjoy the healthy eating and exercise

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WATERMELLEN 6/20/2010 10:23AM

    I'm thinking that .8 is not necessarily a real weight gain -- could be water retention after something salty -- within normal fluctuation??

So glad that you are NOT yelling at yourself: nobody gets to yell at Marsha!!

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EMBRACE_SUCCESS 6/20/2010 9:54AM

    One day at a time is the way to go! Glad you conquered the blahs:)

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DONNABRIGHT 6/20/2010 9:40AM

    Maybe you can try weighing yourself less often?

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