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Thursday, October 17, 2013

As I wrote yesterday, about 3 weeks ago I synched my nutrition and fitness tracker so that my exercise affects my calorie range on a daily basis. After I did that, I found the tracker was giving me too many calories. So I went back in and changed from "light active" to "sedentary" for my activity level (from Start, click on Account Preferences, and in the first screen choose "activity level"). Even though I stand and play a lot with my grandkids and do a lot of housework each day, the tracker was just giving me too many calories. I felt pretty certain I would gain on the level given, because I know I maintain around 130 pounds pretty well at the 1500-1800 calorie range when I am averaging 350 calories burned (during workout) per day.

Also, the tracker gives too many calories for working out on the elliptical trainer which I did yesterday for 45 minutes. Really it needs to be like running and walking where there are many intensity levels available. I use elliptical as an easy workout between runs, so I'm getting about 140 - 160 steps per minute and usually use no incline nor resistance. So I may start manually adding that activity instead of relying on the standard SP number now that it impacts my calorie range.

Weight stabilization: I weighed 126.8 this morning, which is fine by me as long as I have a 125.2 weigh in to balance out my average at or around 126.0.

  
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JOYINKY 10/18/2013 6:21AM

    Good that you are following how well you know your body. There is no one size fits all. Metabolisms differ, body weight enters in, intensity is hard to measure. Trackers are a guide, decent estimate at best. I just can't be obsessed about all the numbers anymore. I count calories and activity minutes and that's working for me. If I start to creep up I tweek there. Keep up the good work!

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MSLZZY 10/17/2013 10:53PM

    Glad I don't tinker with all those trackers or should I say, I pay no attention to them. I have too many other things to do so maybe when life shows down, I'll get into that.

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SMITTY4RL 10/17/2013 7:31PM

    Other discrepancies I've found are for hiking cross-country--per my Garmin, the SP tracker gives me an extra 100 calories or so burned. Horseback riding is the same, although I can't measure that directly and have to go with my gut. I like to think of the tracker as a baseline, but I rarely if ever eat the amount of calories it gives me , even on a hard workout day. There is one thing going for it: my brain relaxes when it knows I can have more calories to eat whereas I would probably tend to feel guilty about 'overeating', even though I was hungry. Weight loss can be a mind game!

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ONEKIDSMOM 10/17/2013 6:47PM

    Sounds like you and MOBYCARP saw similar things with "too much calorie credit" for some activities. I think the same is true of me (slow swimmer) and swimming "general".

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_LINDA 10/17/2013 6:30PM

    All very interesting! I agree with the elliptical results, as one size does not fit all. Just the speed alone makes a big difference never mind adding resistance too, as well as using the arms or not.
What was interesting was my GPS watch agrees with the Spark Fitness Tracker for precise calories burned over distance and time. Guess that is a little more universal.
Heart rate monitor is the only way to go for accuracy as was mentioned.
Sorry, I just can't see you as sedentary!! But you have to go with what feels right..
Your steady scale results show you are on the right track!

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TRAVELGRRL 10/17/2013 6:27PM

    Interesting that you, Watermellen and I all KNOW we are being "given too many calories. I wonder what the Spark gurus would say about that?

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WATERMELLEN 10/17/2013 5:55PM

    Yup, Spark consistently "gives me" too many calories: I know I can't eat that much and stay at the weight I want . . .

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COCK-ROBIN 10/17/2013 5:11PM

    Very good! May it work for you.

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KANSASROSE67 10/17/2013 3:06PM

    I appreciate your sharing your experiences. I've thought about linking but I don't think I'm going to at this point.

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NATPLUMMER 10/17/2013 2:37PM

    I agree with Amanda....a heart rate monitor would be the way to get the most accurate calories burned.

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-AMANDA79- 10/17/2013 2:21PM

    Maybe a heart rate monitor to more accurately track calories burned during workouts?

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DONNABRIGHT 10/17/2013 2:15PM

    It is so hard to figure out if all these devices actually help us or just give us too much unneeded information. I am amazed at how high the number for calories burned is from the spark tracker - I should be fading away to nothing pretty soon at the rate they tell me. It also differentiates between "workout minutes" and "exercise minutes". The exercise minutes are very high and I don't know how anyone could do that much in a day. I'm wondering if I am spending more time tracking and less time doing these days.

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Nutrition Tracker Set to Respond to Fitness Tracker

Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Twenty days ago I reset my SP nutrition tracker to respond to my tracked fitness on a daily basis. Prior to that, from September 2009 until September of 2013, the weekly anticipated fitness activities for the week were used to calculate my calorie range on the SP nutrition tracker. There were 2 reasons I wanted to make the change. One, on my long run days I was hungry if I stuck to my calorie range and felt guilty if I didn't. Two, I had used the Weight Watcher tracking system where APs (activity points) are earned on a daily basis and I thought it was helpful both to manage hunger and to encourage activity especially on my non-run days.

So what do I think of this new option?

I'm not sorry I changed, but it is not as easy and seamless as I have come to expect on SparkPeople. Last Saturday after my 13+ mile run when I burned around 900 calories, I found that my calorie range was increased, but my carbohydrate, fat, and protein were not increased. So I ran out of carbs, fat, and protein before getting to my calorie range. So it can't work as displayed. We know that fat and protein are 4 calories per gram and fat is 9 calories per gram.

So I wrote the SparkCoach and asked what to do. The response verified what I had found, "When you sync your trackers, only the calories get adjusted, not the nutrient grams and ratios, so you'll need to increase those on your own. If you're doing a lot of running and training for big events like you describe, I'd recommend making sure you get a good portion (50-60%) of your added calories from carbs, which are your body's preferred source of energy for endurance exercise." In other words you cannot rely on the nutrition tracker alone, but have to do some of your own calculations.

Oh, well. I love SP, but it isn't perfect. I wonder if I got a Spark Activity Tracker if it would sync better.

Edit: For those following the weight stabilization efforts, 125.4 today.

  
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AQUAGIRL08 10/17/2013 11:11AM

    Interesting! I was wondering how it worked and now I know!

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_LINDA 10/17/2013 1:31AM

    I noticed that about my calories, going way over the nutrients yet being in or under my calorie range, good observation!! I do like them being linked together as my workouts are fluctuating wildly right now depending on how bad I feel. There is no way to predict how much exercise I will get in a given week so this is great for me. Sparkpeople has done such tremendous work with their website and tools. I can only hope they will fix this problem..
Thanks for pointing that out Marsha!!

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GODZDESIGN95 10/16/2013 11:42PM

    Glad I did not hook up with it. I calorie cycle and use there numbers for myself.

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TRAVELGRRL 10/16/2013 7:30PM

    I am looking forward to getting to the point where I look at the micronutrients! All I really care about now are calories, protein, and fat.

I HAVE linked my nutrition tracker with the fitness tracker but take it with a grain of salt. Supposedly I burned over 1,000 calories on Monday doing a spin class and Pilates class? I DON'T THINK SO!

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FROSTY99 10/16/2013 5:53PM

    Glad you were able to get some guidance-seems like you are making the necessary adjustments though.

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GABY1948 10/16/2013 3:09PM

    The weight is EXCELLENT...knew you could do it. As for the other, I have not changed and don't plan to now with this new information but I am sure they will eventually change that it probably involves huge programming changes.

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RUNNERRACHEL 10/16/2013 1:41PM

    Glad to hear the weight stabilization is going well.

Yeah, the fitness tracker and the food tracker should be in sync better. I stopped using it and am following another system...

Still love SP and its trackers but the food was too many calories...and it wasn't working for me. I think it takes some tinkering to figure out what works best.

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BURGUNDYBABE 10/16/2013 1:01PM

    I noticed that as well, which is annoying. Maybe someday they will fix it, or else I will just do the math on my own. Personally, I gained weight when I made the switch, so I've just gone back to the old settings for now until I get closer to my goal.

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SLIMLILA 10/16/2013 12:18PM

    Thanks for info... and as you said, there are enough other good, Free, SP activities anyway. emoticon

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JOYINKY 10/16/2013 11:16AM

    I don't depend on the trackers. I just focus on healthy choices and that's working for me.

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NATPLUMMER 10/16/2013 10:19AM

    I noticed that, too. No, it's not perfect but it is a good guideline.

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WATERMELLEN 10/16/2013 8:45AM

    Haven't linked yet and am not sure I will: in my case because no matter how many calories my activities "say" I've burned, I know darn well that eating over 1500 calories leads to weight gain . . .

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COCK-ROBIN 10/16/2013 8:44AM

    I'm not sure myself.

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WAY2GOCAT 10/16/2013 8:02AM

    Good to know,although I don't sync the fitness tracker. Now even more reason not to. emoticon

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ONEKIDSMOM 10/16/2013 7:49AM

    I don't think the Spark activity tracker would necessarily fix the problem with the macro nutrient adjustment. But it might change what gets tracked and how many calories it says you burned (as opposed to manual entry of your 13 plus mile runs). I don't know.

However, your experience is making me think. I haven't linked them yet... still pondering. I'll let you know when I *do* decide to try it, since I have the tracker. Shared information makes us all stronger!

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Indecision Over; I'm Gonna Do It!!

Tuesday, October 15, 2013

Hubby finally decided that we are NOT going to the Bahamas to see his alma mater (U of TN) play in a basketball tournament the weekend of November 24th. Honestly I am glad he made that decision even though I would have enjoyed the trip.

Now I am free to join ONEKIDSMOM at the St Pete Women's Half Marathon again this year! It just must be that I am suppose to. One of the women in my running group invited me to go with her, so that means I won't have to rent a car. (Hubby and I share one car.) She has a place for me to stay, too, so my only expense will be the entry fee and whatever I buy at the expo.

I expect to be sleeping on a sleeping bag on the floor and staying with a bunch of young people who may be loud. Who knows if I'll get any sleep the night before. But that's okay! I'll be running the inaugural Lakeland Half Marathon on November 9th for time. It's hilly so may not be conducive to PRs, but I still think I can beat my one HM time. Barb is running the Women's Half to support her cousin and she doesn't expect the pace to be too fast. Sounds good to me. I think we'll have a whole lot of fun!! I haven't registered yet, but plan to do it today.

(In case you've been following my weight stabilization efforts it's a darn good thing I didn't add calories yesterday when I weighed under my range. I was exactly at my goal weight of 126.0, up 2.2 pounds from yesterday, after a good eating day.)

  
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    emoticon emoticon emoticon Sounds wonderful! A great race, good friends, a little trip...have a great time!

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TXPATRIOT 10/15/2013 11:34PM

    You are doing awesome!

Doing a hilly half next March. We'll see how that goes. Best wishes with your races!



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ONEKIDSMOM 10/15/2013 8:10PM

    Woo-hoo! Team Ladybugs! You will become an official "half lunatic" in the process (two half marathons inside a month = half lunatic)! I am one already, by virtue of the DHM... you'll join the ranks with these two races.

Wouldn't it be a trip if Monty came along in costume with us? (Sent him a Spark mail... hopefully my response to his dare to do the DHM will spur him to respond to mine to join us!)

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WATERMELLEN 10/15/2013 8:02PM

    Oh you two will have a terrific time!! And we all hope, lots of pics posted right here!!

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JANEWATKINS 10/15/2013 7:22PM

    One thought regarding your young roommates . . . ear plugs. They saved my marriage! They sell nice inexpensive ones at Walgreens. Just be sure you read the directions. I just shoved them in each night and they worked a little but not as good as I expected. One night, in a fit of boredom, I read the instructions. You twist them before inserting them into the ear. As they untwist inside the ear, they DO THE TRICK! Silencio, por favor!

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GABY1948 10/15/2013 6:58PM

    How EXCITING! I envy you both!

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IAMWINNING 10/15/2013 6:52PM

    Have fun, and wishing you the best in the HM

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FROSTY99 10/15/2013 6:41PM

    Sounds like it is meant to be!! Enjoy both of the races.

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2WHEELEDSHARON 10/15/2013 5:07PM

    Yay for Half Marathon fun!

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LAILATN 10/15/2013 1:48PM

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You're an inspiration!

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BOOKAPHILE 10/15/2013 12:58PM

    There is such joy in your post, now that the decision has been made. Enjoy your training before the run as well.

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BROOKLYN_BORN 10/15/2013 11:50AM

    Go for it! You're inspiring me to try longer distances.

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CELIAMINER 10/15/2013 11:36AM

    You running diva, you! Go for it!
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NEWSGIRL2177 10/15/2013 11:24AM

    So exciting! I'll be cheering you on!

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COCK-ROBIN 10/15/2013 10:50AM

    I hope it goes well for you.

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BURGUNDYBABE 10/15/2013 10:35AM

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SLIMLILA 10/15/2013 10:17AM

    What an inspiration you are! And what an opportunity you are going to have too!!
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11TERRY20 10/15/2013 9:51AM

    I love your attitude and your blogs!

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_LINDA 10/15/2013 9:43AM

    That is awesome you get to go!! If these young women are serious about their running, they probably won't be into late night partying too much.. It will be great for you to be staying with your fellow runners, maybe getting tips about the course or discussions that might give you useful information.
Oh that ever fluctuating weight!! Could drive a person crazy, for sure!!
All the best with your training!

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MIRAGE727 10/15/2013 9:22AM

    I've got the Blue Moon Half on Nov 3 and the TriRock Clearwater Triathlon on Nov 10. D is not planning on doing the WHM. I'm thinking about doing it. If so....who knows?
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Am I There Yet?

Monday, October 14, 2013

I weighed 123.8 this morning, below what I was aiming for, around a BMI of 20. Yesterday was a low sodium day so I don't think I need to add calories yet.

Those of you who are long, long-term readers of my blog may remember back in the summer of 2010, when I'd been at or below my Weight Watchers weight for 15 months, I actually had one weigh-in below the WW goal range of 124-155 for the height of 5'6". (I actually am probably a hair under that 5'6" anyway.) I said to myself, "I've got to eat." The next week when I weighed in I was up eight pounds and I have not been as low since.

This time I intend to be smarter. OK - for those long term readers, you may remember I said this once before when I stayed below 126 for ONE day. But this time is different. It is different not only because I've been below 126 for three days in a row, but I now believe I can stabilize my weight around 126 and maintain. I want to stabilize around 126. I think 126 is a great weight for me. Me, me, me, me....

These weight blogs have been terribly self-indulgent. I read some of the really good bloggers and their themes are far more universal. Maybe when the scale consistently says the weight I want I can think about things that will be more helpful to my readers, especially those long-term readers who I truly appreciate!

  
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WATERMELLEN 10/14/2013 8:37PM

    We truly appreciate you, Marsha. You're figuring out something important and we're benefiting from observing and thinking it through with you!! What a kind comment on my introvert blog!!

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1BEACHWALKER 10/14/2013 5:12PM

    You have done great! Your blogs have been motivational, and most blogs are about ourselves and what we have accomplished in our journey. Congrats on getting there! I have a long way to go yet! Any you show us it can happen for us too! Maintenance is easier than some think. I seem to have that down pat, since I have hit so many plateaus! emoticon
You liked my blog about showing ones about Florida in my walks and bike rides..maybe one day you can do the same. Everyone likes those too! We live in a beautiful state and so many who go through terrible, cold winters and always like to see my videos and pics of Florida, especially in the winter! Just a thought, since you mentioned it.
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_LINDA 10/14/2013 3:24PM

    To have such a focus guarantees successful maintenance! Why? Because an slight weight gain will be instantly noted, analyzed and if needed, taken care of. What ever works for you, is what you will write about and maybe inspire someone else for whom this method may also work for. There is always someone out there who will take this information to heart and think about it. Blogs are after all, supposed to be about you. To inspire others, as you do, is a wonderful bonus!
Keep on writing about your story!

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JOYINKY 10/14/2013 2:51PM

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FIT4MEIN2013 10/14/2013 12:11PM

    LOL! Been there! I lost 160# on WW in 1992-1993. I was at goal long enough to weigh in. I gradually added 140# back on over the next 20 years. Now I am back to goal (which is my HIGH weight now). I set my weight range at 5# below my goal. You can do it! The told that helped us lose will also help us to maintain, I am starting month 4 now.

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COCK-ROBIN 10/14/2013 11:54AM

    Good for you! I'm proud of you.

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ONEKIDSMOM 10/14/2013 11:47AM

    I'm with Monty... my real "happy weight" is my "happy performance weight" for my events.

Which reminds me... the upcoming Florida HM? My cousin tells me she has been neglecting her training... so expect us to be SLOW... not going to be a sub 2:30, for sure... my goal is to get her to the finish line!

We will figure out someway to do a photo-op, though, Marsha. Guaranteed... gotta have a "one year later" for the NEXT success story, right?

And self-indulgent or not... one blogs about what one is compelled to blog about. It's a peek into our individual psyches, not always a tutorial or global theme. There's room for all of it in the blogosphere!

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MIRAGE727 10/14/2013 10:58AM

    I truly believe I'm happy at the weight I perform the best. After stressing early in my maintaining start, I will never fix a number to that "perfect weight." Now, after maintaining for over 29 months, my range is 165-170 and work the low end. I focus more on the technical aspects of my running & Triathlons. Thank keeps me healthy.
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AMANDAJCD 10/14/2013 10:46AM

    I think your message is still universal, because once we hit a weight we like we're all going to want to stay there, and many of us have had the "Wow!" moment, followed swiftly by a scale climb.

At least I'm pretty sure neither you nor I are the only ones who've had this :)

Thank you -- it was a good day to read this entry!

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MSLZZY 10/14/2013 10:38AM

    Personal blogs can be more self motivational and yet, still spark others at the same time. Keep on keeping on!

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TERI-RIFIC 10/14/2013 10:08AM

    I think some of the best blogs can be self centered because they are real and they are what you are thinking about. I've been successful at losing weight before but finding the best weight and maintaining it is kind of a mystery to me. emoticon

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Like a Kid Again

Sunday, October 13, 2013

Enjoyed a bike ride this morning after a couple weeks of tire problems. First the air compressor broke and then hubby bought a much better one, but it was complicated. When we finally figured it out, it didn't seem to work on my tire. We bought an adaptor at the bike shop, but that didn't work. Then finally we realized there was a puncture near the tire stem. So I got the tire repaired yesterday. Wonderful! I missed several group rides between my injury and my tire problems, but I didn't mind riding by myself today. The day was gorgeous with just a bit of cool in the air. It was worth the effort. Going to try to keep that bike in good shape so I can do the group rides. Biking makes me feel like a kid again!!

Weighed 125.2 today, the lowest I've been in a long time. That's 2 days in a row I've been below my 126, so maybe it is going to stick this time!!

  
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PMRUNNER 10/14/2013 6:15AM

    Yay!

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SEAJESS 10/14/2013 4:07AM

    EXCELLENT!
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Looks like you have a new maintenance weight.

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WEEPINGANGEL74 10/14/2013 12:30AM

    Way to go!!

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SLIMLILA 10/13/2013 9:40PM

    Wish I could say the same about my weight sticking, was up another lb today, am going to blame it on the flu, cuz as sick as I am, I've been doing some walking, but eating quite well, so don't know why I would be up.

Tomorrow, on the other hand, after a big Thanksgiving dinner at about 1200 cal, I can see a gain, best not to get on that scale.....

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TRAVELGRRL 10/13/2013 7:48PM

    Glad you got the bike issues resolved. It's good to give your feet a break too!

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BOOKAPHILE 10/13/2013 7:46PM

    Look out, world! She's on wheels...even faster than before!

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    emoticon emoticon emoticon SO glad you figured out the bike tire! GOOD going!

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NATPLUMMER 10/13/2013 12:42PM

    Yay!

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WATERMELLEN 10/13/2013 12:33PM

    Hurray hurray hurray for figuring out the bike problem. You ARE just a kid, right?? That "essential inner Marsha" has never changed, I'm betting!

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2WHEELEDSHARON 10/13/2013 10:28AM

    What a wonderful reunion with your bike!
Congrats on the scale success - I hope it stays that way. Great job, Marsha!

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