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Perspectives on "what one 'should' weigh at various heights...

Wednesday, March 14, 2012

We hear it all the time around on the Spark - that what one person weighs at a certain height is not the same as what another person at the same height weighs... we know part of it is because one person might be more muscular and "weigh more" but LOOK thinner... and the reverse is also true - a person might look heavier, but be all "fluff" because of being surrounded by fat, which takes up more volume for the same amount of weight. We know that, right?

So what brings this back to the forefront? I was reading a newspaper article in my email (local paper) - and noticed a link to the newspaper's "Rogue's Gallery" (the County Sheriff's & Police's Top Wanted Felons etc.). It's a slideshow of the various individuals, their mug shot, names, alibis, age, race, markings (tattoos, scars, moles, birthmarks, that sort of thing), AND height and weight. Woooah. I found several of the gals who were 5'3" and were just all over the place - 110 lbs, 165 lbs, 135 lbs, some looked heavier than what the information says...some looked thinner...some looked very thin and their weight was also very low....

The point isn't why are they on the Most Wanted list, but more I'm thinking maybe looking at such a lineup occasionally might help to desensitize, perhaps that's the word I want? myself to the preconceived notions of what a person "looks like" at this or that weight. If it helps others, then so be it.

In any case, a "Most Wanted" list is one of the few places where height and weight are listed as a matter of public record. I suppose Driver's Licenses information might be as well, but we all know THAT information is not correct! Also, I'm not sure if the height and weight listed with the mug shots was pulled from each individual's driver's license information, or if they are measured and weighed during the booking process??



Unfortunately I'm not up to date on the wisdoms of other spiritual beliefs and cultures, but I thought it was interesting to notice this in the New Testament of the Bible:

2 Corinthians 10:12 (King James Version) 12: For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

Could it be that our Father didn't want us stressing out over my weight, instead, wanting me to focus on more important issues, whatever they may be, as I go through my own journey in this life?



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    I just looked at my driver's license for TX and was surprised to see that it does not indicate the weight any more!

Your blog really was interesting, and I thank you for it! emoticon emoticon

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BESEVEN 3/15/2012 10:37AM

    I wish they would quit asking about weight on driver licenses where I live. As of Dec., when I renewed mine, they were still asking for it. It's stupid. You get them for 4 years. An awful lot of people will have significant weight gains and losses in 4 years.

Anyway, you are sooooo right about weight and BMI being pretty unhelpful. One 5'8" person might look obese at 180 and another might look very fit. It's all about muscles and hip-to-waist ratio.

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JANNEPERRY 3/14/2012 10:07AM

    It is interesting what each of us "obsesses" over. I'm never embarrassed to share my clothes size, because in my mind almost everyone would think it is small. But my weight, that's a different story. I never have the confidence to have that on my ticker or anywhere else.

Most certainly there are more important things in the world to concern ourselves with, and focus on.

I like what redshoes2011 said regarding other important measures and how they relate to risk of heart disease.

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MISSRUTH 3/14/2012 7:43AM

    I don't know if they weigh people when they arrest them... in the state where I live, they don't put weight on the drivers license any more (just height and eye color, and of course whether male or female)-- maybe they figured too many people lie about their weight! Or maybe weight can fluctuate too much?

At any rate, it really is an individual thing. It would be a big mistake to just go by the BMI and not take into consideration how athletic/muscular someone is. Plus like RedShoes said, people can be thin but be REALLY unhealthy, body weight alone is NOT an indication of a healthy lifestyle. My husband is the "right" weight for his height but eats crap and doesn't exercise : (

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EM1388 3/14/2012 3:37AM

    Like this blog! Really makes ya think! Thanks for sharing!

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REDSHOES2011 3/14/2012 12:16AM

    emoticonblog.. I weigh in at 75kgs at my present avatar- this make me obese lol..
But alot of people chase a number and BMI if I hear about this again I will scream.. I have up and down beanstalks in my family- they all die thinfat- it is what we eat all the time that hurts us.. BMI is also a 100 year old dinosaur- the safe measurement is hip waist ratio to avoid heart disease..
Thinfat people can have chicken legs, arms and no butt- but many times they have a stomach and this is where they carry dangerous fat logged hard about the vital organs..

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A New Role Model???

Monday, March 12, 2012

Look at this video!! Oldest Showgirl in the world - and she was 85 at the time this video came out!!

Dorothy Dale Kloss (love the "dancer" pants!!)

"...Only I'm still dancing! Isn't that wonderful!?"


What fun!

And just earlier this morning, before we left to go to Topeka for a funeral, I was looking at my stash of DVD's and realized that one of my all-time favorite movies is still "Billy Elliott"...

Now, to find my niche... release my repressed dancer??

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    Hey, thanks for inspiring me! The timing was perfect! emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon

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Interesting Personality Test

Friday, March 09, 2012

It takes a little while to do, but hang in there! You'll have to figure out what the pictures mean to you, so set aside a little time, say 5 minutes, at least. The results are very interesting, similar to most of this type of association test, with a different spin. Enjoy! ? I think this link will work?

Oh and it claims I'm a harmonized. Was tough for me as a lot of the pages didn't have options that truly spoke to me, or more often than not, were ALL true for me at different times of day or night. Kinda like a "horrorscope"...?

(later- I did it again and it said I was a seeker! I just knew it, I have a split personality! Hee hee!)

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CRYS828 3/11/2012 1:52AM

    I really enjoyed that and it was spot on.

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AWESOMECAROL55 3/10/2012 3:23PM

    A Seeker ....Thanks

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    well I managed to find it and I found out I am a
SEEKER emoticon

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CONFUSEDBIRD 3/9/2012 10:50PM

    Wow really enjoyed that, thanks!

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PHEBESS 3/9/2012 10:08PM

    Very cool test - thank you!

Apparently I'm an Energizer - which cracked me up, it sounds like that bunny commercial! (Though the description is fairly accurate.)

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    Thanks for posting this. It says I'm a "seeker" and that just sounds good to me this morning.

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JANNEPERRY 3/9/2012 9:31AM

    Thanks for sharing that. It was fun to take a look at!

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JESSIKA_56 3/9/2012 7:51AM

    Very different and interesting, thanks for sharing!

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JULESJ1OK 3/9/2012 2:48AM

    Wow... took the test, that was fun and interesting, Thanks!

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3 Bittersweet Truths about Sweeteners - reaction to article

Tuesday, March 06, 2012

I just read this article - "3 Bittersweet Truths about Sweeteners" by Robert J. Davis, PhD and I must say, my gut reaction is that this doctor has sold out to "Big Pharma". That's sad.

Of course the research about honey being better than sugar is "weak" - he makes no mention of the substantial differences between raw honey that hasn't been cross-contaminated due to poor storage and handling (sticking dirty fingers or spoon to scoop up some honey, using unclean containers, etc.) and pasteurized honey. I believe the pasteurization process changes various elements of honey (as well as milk, but that's a different peeve of mine.).

Then he goes on to trash the idea that High Fructose Corn Syrup is bad - well, of course they can't find the evidence. The Corn Industry pays well to quash any research that might insinuate that HFCS was NOT "natural". I've read enough, years ago, that convinced me otherwise, and I've listened to how my body responds when I knowingly ate/drank products with HFCS. I've learned to recognize the reactions in my body, so that when I've accidentally had food or drink that had HFCS, I've realized that something was wrong and would know enough to investigate the ingredients (and then discover that yes, indeed, it DID have HFCS when I hadn't realized it before I ate it.). This has happened enough times that I now know to avoid HFCS like the plague.

Doubtless, yes, this is one of those personal decisions. I'm okay with that. But when I read where a person is convinced that HFCS doesn't affect them, but then later on, goes on a rant that they just can't figure out why they binge on certain kinds of foods, my first thought will be to go "ummmm... hmmmm.... have you checked the ingredient list to see if there is HFCS or even just "corn syrup" (which is bad enough)??" I may just have to bite my tongue, because I realize it's not a popular thing to say. But, in my case, I do know that most of the times when I've had these binges and gone back to check I was eating something that had HFCS. To each their own.

And don't even get me started on aspartame...


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    Thanks for sharing.

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MARGARETW36 3/8/2012 10:11AM

    I read the article and your blog. This subject intrigues me as I try my best to live a sugar free lifestyle. I use honey(that I buy from a local bee keeper) to sweeten most everything. I use it in moderation because I have noticed if I eat too much, I am more prone to binging. I have never paid attention to how my body reacts to HFCS because I avoid it like the plague. I even stopped buying juice drinks for my kids. We now use Crystal Light in containers instead. But I only switched because my 3 year old was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes and I didn't like denying him what the older kids were drinking. I don't use Aspartame, I use use Truvia once a day when I have iced tea(with dinner). Otherwise, I drink water or Sobe, Propel(etc).

I wonder about the glycemic index for honey vs. sugar or HFCS. I would think it's the same. I do my best to eat whole/natural foods, but as much as I love honey, I know if I eat too much, I will binge on other things so I try to use very little(1 tablespoon a day).

This is an interesting topic. I'm intrigued by your observations. I wonder where we can find more research that isn't biased. Does such a thing exist?

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BOSS61 3/8/2012 6:17AM

    Aspartame is one of my fave foods - don't you dare take that miracle little blue packet of Equal away from me on health-consciousness grounds! Next you will tell me that caffeine is bad too - oh no!

Caffeine and nutrasweet - critical ingredients of any "Breakfast of Champions!"

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ELISADENK 3/7/2012 8:39PM

    You and me both -- The more we know the harder it is to NOT say anything.

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BETHYSMAMA 3/7/2012 2:30PM

    Oh yeah! You always, always have to take in the source of articles.
We are currently in the process of wanting to purge all processed foods from our diets. There is no evidence, Ha. Did we have so many over weight people in our country before processed foods.

No I grew up with behavioral food allergies. No corn, no soy, no artificial coloring or flavoring, no peanuts, No milk for a while too. I only had a weight problem once all that started to be added back in.

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LADYJAKE1 3/6/2012 9:18PM

    I gave sugar up in 2004, I do feel it was a very good decision for me.
I do eat splenda and sugar free products, not a lot, but I do.

After losing 100lbs I know I do not want to go there again.

I had a friend that was my partner in crime when it came to over eating brownies, ice cream ect...

We do what is best for ourselves.

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Pimp up the Brown Fat??

Friday, February 17, 2012

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the technical issues of these various research articles, but it SOUNDS like having some "brown fat" in my body would be a good thing for my metabolish (as opposed to the pasty, lardy, not-quite-white-more-like-murky-yellowish-
blobbish fat that resides on most of my visible body outlines, sometimes clad in purple fabric, in which case it's "not quite purple fat").

I also haven't $helled out for the access to various research paper websites, so I just read along best I can on the freebie abstracts....

but check these out...

Cold-Activated Brown Adipose Tissue in Healthy Men
(why do they always research the men? they can come research my blubber! I'll even donate a couple dozen vials of buttocks fat!!)

Harrrumpf, this other link was "down due to system maintainance." we'll see if it comes back up.

And from Popular Mechanics:
Brown Fat Revelations May Lead to New Weight Loss Drugs

I like this article - written for the layman's (and laywoman's, and "lay, woman..." ooops...) perspective... and here is a sweet line: "Rather than just a blubbery, lifeless mass, fat is now considered to be a sophisticated and scientifically complex biological organ, as important to the body as the liver or the kidneys."

See there? Fat isn't a blubbery lifeless mass?? who knew! Certainly not me, Mrs. I Hate My Blubbery Butt But Not Enough To Move It Around The Block Often Enough...

So anyway I read one of these or a similar article (am still kicking myself because I meant to copy that one and write up this blog a few days ago when I first read it)... but among other things, apparently cold helps to activate the "brown fat."

Now let me finish reading this article before I go on, because the other day, the article I read said something about wearing cold ice packs around the neck for 30 minutes a day to help activate the brown fat, and I was thinking to myself, now that sounds like a lovely idea last summer when it was only 105-110 degrees on average during the week, but a cold pack in the winter? come on! It's cold already?!

But, I thought, hmmmmm, so how would it be if I went for a walk in the evening and bundled up everything EXCEPT my neck - leave it open to the elements - and see if that doesn't crank up some brown fat? It wasn't terribly cold the other day, so I did that, and my fingers got cold, shoulda wore gloves, but I was surprised that I didn't feel as "cold" as I thought I would, as I usually wrap scarves around my neck to keep my ears warm. Otherwise, I get awful ear aches when I walk in cold weather, and I'm deaf enough already (100 dB in bad ear, 70 dB in good ear) that I don't like aggravating my ears any more than they already are.

Anyway... I would need to test this EVERY DAY, but anyway back to this article - it seems to bringing in more info than what I remember reading the other day, although it is still discussing the same Dutch group that the first article I read talked about (the one I read a few days ago but can't remember what URL it was at.)...

You know how it is, gals, when you go on a weight loss program and the hubster always loses more weight faster then the wives - because they supposedly have more muscle mass? Here's an interesting comment from the Popular Mechanics article: "Cypess's research has shown that, besides young, thin people, women are twice as likely as men to have significant amounts of active brown fat—perhaps because with less muscle mass, they need brown fat to stay warm. In fact, temperature seems to be an important controller of brown fat activity."


Okay so then the article goes on a downward slant, pushing for a "magic pill" basically to just rev up metabolism to burn say, 500 more calories a day...

But! AHA! just what I was thinking out loud about, when I went for my walk a few nights ago...

"Until a pill becomes available, there are ways for people to rev up their brown fat activity. "I don't think you could get a lot of people to put up with [cold] therapy," Enerbäck says, but it could help to turn down your home's central heating and to spend some time outside in the fall and winter. Studies suggest that people who work outdoors have higher brown fat activity than average, so it's not absurd to think that walking to work on a brisk day could boost your metabolism."

Okay so now I need to stop with the excuses already and go for a walk. Or run. Or fast waddle.

The first article, I discovered that "the rest of the discussion" could be clicked on and revealed, so I guess it wasn't as abstracted as I thought.

But it's 11 pm. I'm tired. Gotta busy day.

This is interesting to know... sort of a relief, in a way because I remember telling people years ago that I seemed to lose weight more in previous years when I did walk in the cold weather, but I didn't know why and I didn't know how to explain it, and I was treated like I was crazy.

Who's Crazy Now???

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GETUP-N-GOGIRL 3/3/2012 8:14PM

    Yeah, but I really, really HATE to be cold!

However, maybe it will be more "endurable" when I'm cold just knowing that it's somehow helping with the brown fat situation!

Thanks for the blog, Julia!


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BESEVEN 2/17/2012 10:58AM

    My best friend also told me years ago that walking in the cold was like a magic key to losing weight, but she said that you had to actually BE cold. If you bundled up, it didn't work. I'll bet it was the effects of the brown fat that she was noticing. Cool!

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