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Is Free Will an Illusion Crafted by the Conscious Mind?

Saturday, March 31, 2012

This thought provoking article was brought to my attention by a friend of mine.

We'd been discussing a phenomena that had been occurring with increasing frequency in my life... me catching things before I was aware that they had dropped... seeing the thing in my hand before realizing an object was falling and making a conscious decision to catch it. It seemed to me that the order was backward.

This article comes to a surprising conclusion... and raises the question... does our conscious mind decide for us, or is conscious decision.... free will... an illusion?

Read if for yourself, before you decide.

www.nature.com/news/2011/111001/full
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Mzzchief

Added 4/1
Thx Imleeney for the proper address! I really need to check my links before I post my blogs! Anyways, thanks to Imleeney, it working now...

  
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MONTANA_ED 4/23/2012 3:13PM

    Thank you for posting this interesting article. It caught my eye when you spoke about catching things. I have had the same ability of knocking something over and then catching it before it gets too far. I always thought it was those days of playing video games when I was younger!

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LEAN-N-LEXY 4/16/2012 10:11AM

    thank you for this. my husband has been telling me that the concept of free will had been disproved by science for a while, but never pointed me to any articles like this one. since thoughts are chemicals, i have a hard time believing that the scientists know just exactly what it is they are measuring in those brief moments before the action.
Anyway his stance on no such thing as free will always comes up when I try to get him to change his thinking consciously from something negative to positive (reframe or even an affirmation). I come back to thoughts are chemicals and you can change your chemistry by changing your thoughts. We then get into the chicken or the egg first discussion.
Another anyway-- I don't want to be held hostage to the unhealthy thoughts that I know my "bad" brain chemistry of being in a state of dis-ease holds me. So, I change my mind with thoughts as best as I am able and I change my chemistry along the way too to assist with holding the better thought patterns.

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IMLEENEY 4/12/2012 5:48PM

    Provocative article, as is the discussion here! Your work with your students reminds me of exercises I use when teaching journaling, such as writing with the non-dominant hand to access the right hemisphere of the brain. Usually produces some interesting results as it quells the consciousness a bit.

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MZZCHIEF 4/12/2012 2:49PM

    Blue~

The art exercises we did were:
1.the vase/face illusion
2. drawing people while holding the image upside down in order to remove the shapes from the context of the human form... to prevent the verbal left from naming(a left brain function) facial and body features as they were drawn,
3. blind contour drawing with the instruction for students to pretend they were an ant slowly crawling along the place where positive and negative space met... edges. And recording this eye movement with the pencil on the paper to create a drawing. This also helped with hand/eye coordination and slowing the brain down to notice, not name.

I don't think that these discoveries will really change the law. The discoveries mentioned in this article, applied to very simple choices... all they indicated is that a DECISION had been made before the conscious mind actively acknowledged it... perhaps that delay was the consideration the conscious mind made before selecting.

Additionally, the conscious mind can override the subconscious, it does it all the time... its what socialization is about. I'm sure we've all had impulses we dearly wanted to act on, but chose not to.

Jesse
I agree with the spirit of what you've said, but I would not go as far as saying its an illusion.

I think we create our world by societal agreements, our limited sensory input, our individual nature and nurture.

What I mean by societal agreements...take the concept of money.

Money in an of itself has very little intrinsic value... all it is, its special printing on piece of paper. Its value is one that we've conferred on it by agreement.

Taken from the context of this agreement... say you being marrooned on a desert island, the money reverts back to what it really is... paper.

Anyways, thanks to both of you for your thought provoking commentary!

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Mzzchief



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BLUEMORNING 4/12/2012 11:33AM

    MZZ--the art exercises---were they called gesture drawing? By the way, I think this is all much ado about nothing, the human brain is so complicated that scientists are going to have to do alot more experiments to see if this reaction (pre-reaction?) just isn't something else. It would be a boon for defense attorneys, take away free will and it takes away any responsibility we have for our own actions.

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SLIMMERJESSE 4/12/2012 10:03AM

    I think almost everything is an illusion constructed by the human mind to help us survive.

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MZZCHIEF 4/12/2012 9:50AM

    Thx everyone for reading and commenting.

Man has been contemplating the human mind for thousands of years, no doubt predating the likes of Plato and Aristotle.

But now that science has progressed to the point where we can actually examine and record the process, I think it opens up an exciting new frontier, one that is in its infancy now.

But when its all said and done, will knowing the basis from which decisions are made, make a difference in religion or the criminal justice system?

I think not, as there seems to be an innate human need for both faith and retribution.

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JOANNANOW 4/11/2012 6:36PM

    Very interesting ... I have never thought that my unconcious was a seperate entity though. The fact that it runs under the surface doesn't mean that it's not functioning as a part of me. I still think that whatever they discover can't take away the freedom to choose.
|Thanks for this thought provoking link!
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1BEACHWALKER 4/8/2012 3:35PM

    Interesting, but over my head! emoticon emoticon

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GOANNA2 4/6/2012 5:30PM

    Really interesting. Thank you Mzz.


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MORTICIAADDAMS 4/2/2012 7:39PM

    Fascinating! It's amazing what they can come up with to study.

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MZZCHIEF 4/2/2012 3:24PM

    Good points!

Wolfie you might be interested in a book calt "Blink" which is about what you've described here.

I know from teaching art, that accurate drawing involves overriding the left hemisphere, which is dominant in most humans, but draws in symbols, rather than what is seen. So some class time was spent having students do drawing exercises that helped learn what it "felt" like to be in the nonverbal right side of the brain, so that they could consciously make the shift when trying to draw accurately.

It was a struggle for many of them... simply cuz the left hemisphere is dominant, verbal and wants to stay in control, even when its not the right tool for the job.

In a way I think the same can be said of the conscious mind... it wants to be in control and might even reject some answers from the subconscious, simply to prove to itself that it is!

But I don't know for sure... its just a theory.

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Mzzchief

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WOLFSPIRITMOM 4/2/2012 12:19PM

    Yes, I agree Mzzchief. For example when I do the SP trivia, it seems that when I go with the answer that pops up first in my head, I am more right than when I think about it and make a conscious decision.

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BOOKWORM27S 4/2/2012 12:38AM

    Great article!

I can also see how this can relate to mindful eating.

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MZZCHIEF 4/1/2012 3:19PM

    I think it really depends on how you define three things, "free will",conscious and subconscious mind.

For me:
Free will, is when the conscious mind makes a decision and an action is taken on that decision... a deliberate considered choice has been made.

The conscious mind is that voice in your head that deliberates, has a "voice"... its the one that's in charge when we are awake.

The subconscious mind is the one that dreams and has no language, its the intuitive side that's primarily active in sleep.



What the experiments are showing, at least for simple selections that don't require moral deliberation, is that our unconscious mind does the picking several seconds before the conscious mind is aware of the decision... so the conscious mind thinks the decision is originated with its self. When in fact, it came from the subconscious mind.

LOL sounds like a ploy a lot of wives use successfully with their husbands to get what they want... who knows, maybe this technique works because our brains are hardwired this way!
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Mzzchief

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BGSTELLA 4/1/2012 1:40PM

    ok... now my thoughts are spinning:):) -- but thank you for the "food for thought" -- I imagine I will be chewing on this one for a while!! emoticon

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BOBBIENORTHERN1 4/1/2012 12:29PM

  I think it is still free will by our sub conscience and or consicience?

Our free will is part of our soul and our soul is our mind, will and emotions, so there you go, what do you think?

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NEW-CAZ 4/1/2012 3:42AM

    couldn't get to the link Mzzz sorry!

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IMLEENEY 3/31/2012 9:14PM

    http://www.nature.com/news/2011/111
001/full/477023a.html

Is this it? Sorry, couldn't see how to post it as a link.

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SUE_2U 3/31/2012 8:42PM

    That sounds so very interesting - however it says link not found. Is it broken or something? If you recall the title I may be able to find it.

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SPARKLINGHOPE 3/31/2012 2:33PM

    Link says page not found. Does it require sign in?

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Quick Tip #63~ The Balls in your Panty Hose Trick!

Thursday, March 29, 2012

Turns out this is a great way to give yourself a back massage in that hard to reach upper back (thoracic) area.

Just fish out that pair of pantyhose you're never gonna wear again, because its got a tiny run in the toe, or some other imperfection, and put it to good use!

You can use various size and hardness balls for this.
I've used golf, tennis and a red spongy ball all to various effect, depending on where my back pain is.

Just cut the pantyhose off at the top of the leg, so you have two stockings.
Drop a ball into the stockings, work it down to the toe. Tie a loose knot at the top. That's all there is to it... your back stocking it ready for action!

Beware O miserble Back Pain... your hours are numbered!
Fear the power of the backstocking!

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For lumbar (lower back) pain, all you really need is the ball and the wall, but it helps to have it in a sock, in case it drops. This way it won't run off under the couch, dining table or some other hard to access place... that bending to retrieve it can be last thing you need, if your back isn't happy in the first place.

As for the Action:
You can do this one fully clothed... I prefer to wear a thin teeshirt and remove my bra because I don't need the straps and back band in the way.
*Find a bare wall, stand next to it back almost touching.
* Raise your hand with the top of the stockingball up over your shoulder,
* Position the ball end of it between the knot in your back and the wall by adjusting where your hand is positioned
* Rub this knot against the ball buy doing dips and moving from side to side to massage out the stiffness, while keeping hold on the top of the stocking.
*You can reach a new location by repositioning the hand holding the stocking to the desired spot.

For lumbar pain, do the same, only you can just place the ball where you need it to be and hold on to the end by your waist so it doesn't fly off.

A variety of ball hardnesses and sizes work for different areas on your back.

Its a real boon to those living alone, or have a partner who is unable or unwilling to help. Or who don't have the resources to afford a"real" massage.

Consider it, next time you get a knot in your back, and you may be glad you did!

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Mzzchief

3/29 Update!
Check out Getstronger's tip, she uses the tennis ball on the floor instead of the wall! This might be a better alternative for some.

I also use a large, long handled, heavy metal serving spoon when I'm desperate...the type you stir soups when they are in a big pot cooking. I gently tap the area between the shoulder blade and the spine, with the "belly" of the spoon. That area is my personal Waterloo!

Sounds like torture, but its heaven! LOL

  
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GIRANIMAL 4/18/2012 4:59PM

    More than one chiropractor has given me this tip, and it really can be a life...er...back/neck/head saver! My biggest challenge is finding a bare wall in my apartment. emoticon

A tennis ball against the floor right around the back/bottom of the skull sometimes is the only thing that can get deep enough for a really bad tension headache-turning-migraine. Just be careful with the floor approach. Sometimes that can be too much pressure if you're in a lot pf pain.


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LEAN-N-LEXY 4/16/2012 9:44AM

    for those WITH a partner to help, the ball is great to give them a break on the fingers, or help with guaging pressure if they aren't typically good at using their fingers in massage. (For example, my guy is on the Austism spectrum, notorious for fine motor difficuties, so he can either do very light touch or super hard, but cannot grade in between. This made his 2nd grade teachers upset with broken pencil points as he learned handwriting. That he is post-Guillain-Barre syndrome probably doesn't help.)

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1BEACHWALKER 4/8/2012 3:55PM

    Will have to try that. I have a long handled neck and back massager with various speeds-don't know what I would do without it! But, sometimes it doesn't do the trick either. Guess this may work! emoticon

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JLUVSHIKIN 4/2/2012 8:57PM

    we do something similiar her too... but we use an old gym sock!


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MORTICIAADDAMS 4/2/2012 4:28PM

    I'll have to give this a try.

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NEW-CAZ 4/1/2012 3:41AM

    Great tips Mzz!

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BOOKWORM27S 3/31/2012 12:12AM

    Great suggestion!

I admit, I was intrigued by the title of this blog!

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MZZCHIEF 3/29/2012 11:05PM

    Thanks everyone for your comments.

Love getstronger's tip to do it on the floor... an alternative if you can't do it on the wall for whatever reason!

That's some great thinkin!

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Mzzchief

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GETSTRONGRRR 3/29/2012 10:46PM

    Nice....I usually use a tennis ball and lie on it on the floor.....great for hamstrings, back, & shoulders.

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1COUNTRY_GAL 3/29/2012 9:49PM

    What a grand Idea,thank you for posting this one.Now I have use for all those nylons I have kept stashed around. emoticon

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KNITTABLES 3/29/2012 6:12PM

    What an awesome tip. I will be using this one tonight.

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LINOVER 3/29/2012 5:52PM

    You always have some helpful hints! Thanks for sharing!

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SUE_2U 3/29/2012 4:54PM

    Wow! What a wonderful idea! I'm going to try this today.

Thank you so much! emoticon

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EJHEINRICH1 3/29/2012 2:42PM

    Thank you for this great tip! emoticon

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SPARKLINGHOPE 3/29/2012 2:06PM

    Great idea!!

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Twenty minutes of fascination...Bacterial Chatter and You!

Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Did you know that the 70 trillion bacteria that call our bodies home, not only launch group behavior using signalling molecules, much like an organ releases hormones (or pesky stinging fire ants use pheromones), but also speak two different "languages"?

Didn't think so.

Watch the amazing Bonnie Bassler explain it all much better than I ever could, with humor no less!

Enjoy!
blog.ted.com/2009/04/08/discovering_
bac/



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Mzzchief

  
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MZZCHIEF 3/24/2012 2:04PM

    Thanks, Sparkers, for commiting to watch this video... I know 18 minutes is a long time, but I do hope it kept you entertained while you watched!

The more I learn about this world, the more fascinating it becomes... the more I see patterns that are utilized by the natural world, again and again across species.

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Mzzchief

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WOLFSPIRITMOM 3/24/2012 8:15AM

    emoticon Of course not all bacteria are bad, just like people!

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BOOKWORM27S 3/24/2012 8:14AM

    Wow! Very interesting..... but there are just some things I don't want to know. LOL!

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SLIMMERJESSE 3/22/2012 12:08PM

    Fascinating! Thanks!

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M77355 3/21/2012 4:09PM

    oooooOOOOOOoooooooo cool !

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BOBBIENORTHERN1 3/21/2012 11:43AM

  This is really amazing and I just love it. Wow. We really are wonderfully and fearfully made I love it, thanks Mzzchief
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STRINGS58 3/21/2012 11:07AM

    She's interesting to listen to...may all college students get such a good teacher! (I've got one graduating and one entering college)

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MORTICIAADDAMS 3/20/2012 10:09PM

    My bacteria have been screaming all day.

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1COUNTRY_GAL 3/20/2012 3:50PM

    Very interesting and well presented,Bonnie is a great speaker and held my interest for the whole video,I learned something I didn't know.Thank you for posting this educational video! emoticon

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Tasty Tip#14~ Good Golly, its Sprouting Lentils!

Monday, March 19, 2012

This was so easy... its a little sad how excited I am over it! LOL

After writing my lentils and rice blog a few days ago, I decided to see if I could get some to sprout... and they did, with almost no help from me! AND no fancy equipment, either!

Just:
* a clean recycled yogurt container...
* a lid from one of my pots, cuz the yogurt container's lid was AWOL
* the mesh strainer, that I use to filter my tea leaves out of my pot of tea
*lentils
*distilled water

Added about a half cup? of lentils into the container.
Ran tap water in there, squished it around, dumped the water.
Covered lentils with distilled water so that they were all submerged.
Left them there overnite, washed em and soaked em the following morning.

Later that afternoon, I bit one and found both the taste and texture had changed.

Instead of being hard and bitter, it was sweet and crunchy.
Not crunchy like potato chips, crunchy like an apple.

So I decided enuf with the soaking, drained and washed them again, but did not cover them with water.

Next day I looked and they all had tails.
So they got another bath.

Etc.

The basic schedule I used was:
Soak about 24 hours with several washes and water changes.
Drain and don't refill with water... let grow the next couple of days, giving them at least two baths a day.

Day 4? not really sure... is today and Voila here they are! Beautiful, dontcha think?

And tasty too, I just invited some of them into my bowl of luncheon chili to play!


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Mzzchief

  
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JENAE954 3/6/2013 10:10PM

  Nice blog

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SUE_2U 3/26/2012 9:54PM

    Chia seeds sprout, too, but you deal with all this mucus, first. I did sprout some accidentally, once. They were supposed to be on the Chia Pet! Hahaha
I used to love sprouting alfalfa. This sounds yummy.

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BOOKWORM27S 3/22/2012 7:34AM

    Awesome! I didn't know you could sprout lentils! I love them, and I discovered red lentils at Sprouts Market.

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JUICENUT 3/20/2012 4:28PM

    Are you going to let them spout further? They look great.

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MZZCHIEF 3/20/2012 1:56PM

    Thx to all who visited this blog and took time to comment!

To answer everyone's questions thus far:

String,
these are the regular brown lentils you get at Walmart although if I were to describe their color I would say a brown with olive undertones. Nothing fancy like red or pink! I do have some orange lentils, but they are split, so I don't think they will sprout. The ones that will sprout for you have to be intact... look like a hmmm a ball that has been squished between the fingers. Round and slightly domed on each side.

GetStronger:
I just put them on top of my chili! I think they'd be good on a salad, too. I've put my fenugreek sprouts in soup, and Pho Tai usually uses mung bean sprouts in its bone broth, so they'd definitely be a candidate for soup!

JLuvs:

Any intact seed that is sold for consumption, that you can cook and eat, is prolly safe to sprout! Some of them aren't that easy to get started though. Last year I tried to sprout rice, and was not successful.

Additionally, you may not like the result... some seeds, like fenugreek to a degree, give off mucilage which is a slimy substance. My sister told me she tried soaking flaxseed and wound up with a "cupful of snot" which wound up in the trash rather than her stomach! LOL

My thoughts are that problems can arise when proper hygiene isn't maintained... and the seeds become infected by a food borne illness. Or, for example, you were cutting up a chicken, didn't wash your hands with hot soapy water, and then touched your sprouts, if your chicken had salmonella or campylobacter, (which would be killed by cooking) it would grow in this moist, nutrient rich environment. Seeds can also grow molds and general bacteria. So its like anything else, you've got to be careful.

That's why its important to rinse and wash the seeds and use distilled water... make sure your container, tools and hands are clean.

Soaking and sprouting is supposed to make beans, nuts, grains, seeds more digestible by waking them from dormancy and starting up the enzymatic processes inherent to germination. What this means is that minerals and the stuff the baby plant need to grow, are taken out of suspension and made available to the sprout... and to you!

Nutrition is improved by reducing mineral blocking phytic acid and destroying inflammatory lectins found in beans... these two things go out with the rinse water. Which is why you don't want to water your plants with the rinse water!

So if you've got the time and want to experiment, by all means do!
Thanks everyone!
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Mzzchief





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JLUVSHIKIN 3/20/2012 1:27AM

    I know not all things are good to eat sprouted... how do you know which ones are good and which ones are not?

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ANOTHERMOMOF2 3/19/2012 10:52PM

    I'm not surprised they were easy to grow. Beans usually sprout pretty well for my garden.

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MORTICIAADDAMS 3/19/2012 10:47PM

    They look really neat!

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GETSTRONGRRR 3/19/2012 9:59PM

    Looks very cool.....did you just snack on them or cook 'em up in a dish?

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STRINGS58 3/19/2012 6:31PM

    brown, yellow, pink, green? which kind of lentils?

Keeping the cats out of it isn't a problem but the cat hair . . .might be an issue emoticon

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Tasty Tip#13~ My big Kale Chip Adventure (thx to JLuvshikin!)

Friday, March 16, 2012

So I have a new addiction... and its all JLuvs fault!

JLuvs (aka Jenn) is a Sparker that planted the"Let's make Kale Chips!" seed sometime last year with her recipe. She thought I "fergot". I did not. ha

I'd lost her recipe... but I was determined to try them.
So I did what I usually do when in doubt... troll the internet for ideas, cobble together common elements, come up with a recipe based on what I'd discovered.

Thankfully... they're low in calories and high in nutrition.
And how else could you eat an entire head of Kale/days worth of veggies in one sitting?

So here goes...
TOOLS YOU NEED:
*Large pot to wash Kale in
*Scissors, knife or some sort of cutting tool
*Colander to drain it
*Salad spinner or paper towels
* Cookie sheet or roasting pan
*Spatula
*Plate, bowl or glass to present chips to the masses
INGREDIENTS YOU NEED FOR BASIC RECIPE:
*Large Bunch of Kale (preferably organic as Kale is otherwise pretty high in pesticides...washing will take some of it off but not all)
*Olive Oil
OPTIONAL INGREDIENTS (flavorings... not necessary, believe me!)
*sea salt
*red cayenne pepper
* sesame seed or sesame oil
*parmesan cheese
*black pepper
* vinegar

DOING IT:
1. FLAY YOUR KALE~
Kale has a hard, lighter green "rib" running up it like a spine. You're going to want to remove this. This can be done with a knife, your fingers and pulling, or a scissors. Point is, remove it.

2. DETERMINE THE PRESENTATION~
Long and slender, or short and bite sized?
* leave the leaf intact and when its cooked, stand it up in a tall glass for eating
* tear or cut them in pieces for a "bowl of chips" presentation

3. SOAK & WASH~
I've got a huge stainless steel bowl that I wash all my greens in. Here's Ms Hand filling it up and adding a bit of powdered vitamin C to the water. In case you missed my incessant ramblings on the subject, I add C to my tap water to remove the chlorine and chloramines... and I suggest you do to!



I generally let the Kale soak in there about 15 minutes, then push it up and down, drain rinse, and fill the bowl up again with water and vitamin C, let it sit for 5 MORE minutes.

4. DRAIN AND DRY~
Drain in a colander, use paper towels to dry as best you can... or better yet use a Salad Spinner. The Salad Spinner is fabulous, if you don't have one, you might want to consider putting it on your wish list or better yet, just buying one. They cost waaay less than a Mercedes.

5.OIL IT DOWN~
Put dried Kale back in your dry Washing bowl, sprinkle on about a tablespoon of olive oil. Toss, Toss, Toss until its all coated. I also added a bit of Sesame Seed oil for flavor but a good Organic Extra Virgin Olive Oil is just delicious, too.

6.POSITION IT FOR TOASTING~
Place on cookie sheet, or roasting pan... one layer thick. OVEN preset at 325.
I needed to do this in two batches, because I only have one cookie sheet.

Its okay if the cookie sheet is a bit overcrowded, because the Kale winds up like an extra in "Honey, Who Shrunk the Kids? by the time its been toasted.

If you start double- deckering them though, don't claim I didn't warn ya!


Here's what they look like after 20 minutes at 325. NOTE: One half had cayenne put on it, the other sesame seeds. You can see this in the photo.


7.REMOVE FROM OVEN~
After about 20 minutes at 325. Remove a chip to test for crunchiness. It should melt in your mouth like an angel flake... be light and airy. If you left your leaves intact, you can stand them up in a tumbler glass, if not, pile onto a waiting plate.


they are now, drumroll please...
READY TO EAT!

Okay, so you're saying: Well what about all those Toppings, Mzzchief, what are we going to do with those?

Muahaha!

Here's some suggestions:
1. you can make salt, pepper and vinegar Kale chips. Just add these ingredients along with the olive oil, after you're returned the Kale to the Mixing bowl once its been spun dry. You only need a SMALL amount of vinegar, so go easy

2. Parmesan cheese can be sprinkled over the top of the chips as they lay on the cookie sheet, before they go into the oven

3. Sesame seeds can be added while Kale is on cookie sheet, as can red pepper and salt. The olive oil will help it to stick

4. Use sesame seed oil at the same time you use olive... use less olive oil.

Okay, Sparkers! I think that just about covers this cooking adventure!
Big thanks to Jluvs as the motivating force driving this adventure to fruition!

Be good...
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Mzzchief

Added 3/17/12
GREAT IDEAS FROM SPARKERS!
Imleeny sez : try it with a dehydrator, look for flat "dinosaur kale" and try nutritional yeast as a topping (added selenium, B vitamins, iron and parmesan cheese taste).
Strings sez: Be careful thyroid sufferers as Kale is a goitrogen... use moderation. (I have a bit of seaweed that day as Kale can block iodine and seaweed is a good source of that mineral). Also that smoked Paprika is a hit on these chips.

Added 3/31
Check out GIRANIMAL's tip for getting a light even coating of olive oil on your kale chips (or anywhere's else for that matter).

Its a device called the Misto, which is an empty spray bottle for olive oil. I just saw them for sale a few days ago at Ross or Marshalls, in their home department. Sorry, I can't remember which store... they run about $9.

Bon Appetit!
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Mzzchief

  
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JACQUELINE-D 3/30/2012 8:32AM

    Great, this is just what I needed. I had brought a big bag of kale but had no idea what to do with it as I have never had it before. I will definately try this.

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GIRANIMAL 3/19/2012 12:35PM

    I love kale chips! I just made some last night. emoticon

My salad spinner is one of my best friends. So is my Misto! It's a neat little invention that turns heart-healthy EVOO into "aerosol"-like cooking spray. I adore it for stuff like kale chips where you really want a very thin and/or even coating of oil.

Gah, thanks for the vitamin C reminder! I keep forgetting to pick that up.

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MZZCHIEF 3/19/2012 12:28AM

    thx everyone for the commentary!
I made more kale chips today... only I just took out the ribs and left the pieces larger.... the leave pretty much intact... some of then didn't get crisy... so next time I'm going to cut them in smaller pieces like I did the first time.

I prefer not to overcook my food since the longer it cooks, the greater the chance some vitamins won't survive.

I'm looking forward to seeing this mysterious "dino kale"... so far all we've got here is curly!



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1BEACHWALKER 3/18/2012 10:56PM

    We love kale! We have a great Kale and Potato soup recipe. I will have to tell my husband about his and see if he wants to try it (he is the better cook in our house). I bet the flat dino kale (never heard of it) would make better chips. That is such a cool idea though! Thanks for being such a wealth of good information on cooking natural/organic etc. You always have such interesting bits of tidbits on all kinds of subjects! Even bugs!! emoticon emoticon emoticon

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WOLFSPIRITMOM 3/18/2012 11:43AM

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BOOKWORM27S 3/17/2012 12:23PM

    We just discovered dino kale, love it! I just steam mine with lemon juice and salt, great flavor! I will have to try some smoked Hungarian paprika on it next time.

Great blogs!
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MZZCHIEF 3/17/2012 11:55AM

    Thanks Sparkers for reading this one... hopefully it will plant a seed if you've yet to try them!

Those that have, thank you for the additional topping ideas and tricks... I am going to put them into the body of the blog so that they're not missed.

Carol I had to look up colcannon... sounds tasty... for those who don't know its an Irish dish of kale and mashed potatoes, often seasoned with scallions, butter, salt and pepper and served with ham or Irish bacon. It can also contain cream, chives, milk, onions and leeks... I learn so much here!

String you are correct about Kale interfering with your thyroid! I'm thinking that cooking helps a bit to inactivate goitrogens... I make sure to have some seaweed the same day to add iodine, as that's the element that goitrogens interfere with and seaweed is chock full of iodine. I LOVE smoked paprika and bet they would be great on the Kale.

Imleeny, what a super idea to dehydrate! I have never seen flat dino Kale, something to look for at the store.

Thanks to all that have commented!
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Mzzchief

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STRINGS58 3/17/2012 9:32AM

    I use olive oil, light salt, pepper and smoked paprika and make them for my daughter as often as I can. She loves these. Mine tend to look darker and I think I'll try them at the lower heat (gotta set a timer, I forgot them once).
I just read that too much kale interferes with thyroid - moderation then
Our grocery store has them already torn and washed, so it's pretty easy. I tend to do half the bag in chips and make her a soup with kale added at the end.

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IMLEENEY 3/17/2012 8:35AM

    What a delightful blog post! I love kale chips and have switched to using the large flat dinosaur kale for them. Plus I just got a cheap dehydrator and make them in that so as not to interfere with their RAWness! Just one more thought...nutritional yeast is a great addition to sprinkle on along with the oil. Makes them taste a bit cheesy.

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NEW-CAZ 3/17/2012 3:36AM

    Sounds good Mzz
thanks for sharing

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1COUNTRY_GAL 3/16/2012 11:23PM

    Thank you for sharing this with us.Those look good,I want to give this a whirl.I would never eat Kale otherwise.Thank you JLUVSHIKIN for this recipe and seed Mzz tried.Great job ladies emoticon emoticon

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CAROLFAITHWALKR 3/16/2012 10:29PM

    Very interesting; thanks for sharing. I love kale but am not sold on this one.

I'm making kale colcannon tomorrow for St. Patrick's Day.

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MORTICIAADDAMS 3/16/2012 9:17PM

    I've been curious about these too. I've never eaten kale.

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CRAZY4CHICKENS 3/16/2012 9:12PM

    Sounds good ... thanks for the TUT! :)

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JLUVSHIKIN 3/16/2012 8:45PM

    I like your additions to the chips! They sound yummy! I am soooo glad you enjoyed the chips... they are tasty aren't they.

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SPARKLINGHOPE 3/16/2012 8:11PM

    I will have to try some kale chips :)

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AQUAGIRL08 3/16/2012 6:51PM

    Very interesting!

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