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~ 21 day challenge... no prize, but lessons learned!

Sunday, March 25, 2012

... so Allison and I completed the 21 day Primal Blueprint challenge and I have to admit that I made no progress, in terms of weight lost.

The 21 day challenge was based on eating primal and living a "primal" lifestyle, in a modern world of course. For 21 days, the book outlined what to to do each day, based on primal eating, exercise and primal living. At the beginning of the challenge I started out great, but then, when I weighed myself, and found that I had gained weight, I was stunned because I had followed the plan to the letter. However, after I reviewed what I had been eating over the past week, I discovered that, yes, I was eating the primal way, but over-eating. I blogged about this in my "Primal Diet Reminder" blog. After the first week's disappointment for some reason, it all went downhill from there. emoticon... But, I am not looking at this as a failure but rather an opportunity to reassess the things that I have been doing wrong, and what I can do to "improve" them, so although I didn't have success with weight lost, I gained a lot of knowledge about me and the primal lifestyle.

- I have learned that although I have become more intuitive about my eating, I will need to track my macros until I really understand this diet, I am still relatively a "newbie" to this program.

- I have learned "not" to be afraid of eating "good" fats, i.e. olive oil, coconut oil, etc., but by tracking how many grams of fat I am eating I will be able to determine what is the right "balance" for me.

- I have learned that I need to incorporate more "good" carbs into my diet. I thought that I was eating enough carbs, between 50 - 100gms (... the sweet spot as Mark Sisson says)... however, I have been below 50gms on most days, thus the lack of energy!


Starting today, this is what I will be doing to improve my chances of success:

- keep track and record my macros every day

- keep carbs between: @ least 50- 60gms on REST days / 75 - 100gms on the days that I exercise, but still paying attention to how I feel and tweaking/adding when I need to. * Starchy carbs eaten on workout days: new potatoes (peeled); wild rice/white basmati rice; plantains * I will also add yams, sweet potatoes, to lower intensity workout days and REST days if I need to increase my carb intake to 50gms.

- emoticonget 7 - 8 hours of sleep most days... the goal is everyday. Lack of sleep is affecting my energy level and probably much more, so this is a priority for me!

- Workout 6 days, aiming for 3 - 5 hours per week, and REST for one day. It's ok to walk everyday though! emoticon.. although the Primal Blueprint and Paleo lifestyle don't advise "scheduled" workouts, there is no way that I "cannot" schedule my workouts and achieve my goals, I will be working out as follows, unless of course life steps in:

SUNDAY: REST / active rest (I will really try to do this!)

I will monitor how I feel and adjust workout intensity as needed, staying within my fitness level and not trying to keep up with the dvd workout... I am guilty of this! emoticon... quickest way to burn out!

- REST when I am tired and don't obsess about "NOT" working out... The bottom line is that nutrition is 80% of the equation, if I get that right, I will see progress.

In April, Pam aka MCMOM11 will begin Cathe's Mesocycle 1, 4 week rotation based on "Endurance" training... higher reps, lighter weight. This week I will continue to do the Jari Love workouts and cardio.

I am in the process of writing down all of my macros down and entering them into the Sparks nutrition tracker. I may not always track online, but I will definitely be keeping track manually.

Well, that's it!... I will keep you posted... ~ Dee emoticon

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TESS6166 3/27/2012 5:50PM

    Great plan!! I do hear you on the portion control thing... It gets me, too.

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MRS_TOAD 3/27/2012 9:08AM

    You've learned some great lessons. Thanks for sharing them with all of us. You have certainly helped me become healthier over the years.

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    I'm eager to know how the new changes work. At least you know you are eating healthy no matter what.

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GUNNSGIRL91303 3/26/2012 1:21PM

    I have not heard of the primal diet. Is that different from the Paleo diet?
I think you are on the right track...tweak as you go so to speak! Good job on making your disappointment into a learning lesson and what a great attitude you have! Good luck with your endeavors!

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MYJUNIEMOON 3/26/2012 7:01AM

    Thanks for the feedback and lessons learned. I think it is a constant ambition to know what really works for each of our own unique selves. The important thing is to be constantly trying to improve what really works for us and our lifestyle.

I'm glad you're feeling better!

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ONE*BUSY*MOM 3/26/2012 1:42AM

    Interesting findings -- glad you have a plan for the next couple of months! Can't wait to hear how it all works out for you.

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ALLISON145 3/26/2012 12:20AM

    I'm thinking the challenge would have profound effects on someone who was new to the lifestyle, but we were both pretty primal already. I've learned a lot too, but I'm going to take it easy on myself this week to get back out of my all or nothing mentality and then reassess.

Comment edited on: 3/26/2012 12:20:51 AM

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HEALTHY4ME 3/25/2012 7:14PM

    So intersting, and even though I have tried primal paleo 2x now, and really sort of doing that now as no grains and very limited dairy, but what macro nutrients are you going to follow and where did you find what and how much you need?
I want to learn to do this but don't seem to understand it well. The principal in general yea, veggies, meat, fruit, nuts and seeds. I do have some nutrition background as worked in long tterm care nursing home for years and had to do some of it but to me it is just sensible eating as close to natural and the earth - it shouldn't be so hard but cos of our eating habits and the food today, processed and chemicals it has become hard.
Thanks for any help and ideas.
you have done well!!

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MONA_MONA 3/25/2012 7:09PM


Trial and error is how most of us figure out what works for us and what doesn't. I wish Primal/Paleo eating was more clear cut for women in terms of fat intake.

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~ How to succeed with the Primal Blueprint lifestyle ~

Friday, March 23, 2012

...So you’ve decided to join the challenge. You’ve created your own Primal Challenge Journal and have publicly stated your goals for the next month. Now what? First things first. You have to know the basics. If you’re new to the Primal Blueprint the following article will be like gold to you. Revisit it again and again until you’ve committed the concepts to memory. The graphs and charts are visual representations of the principles that are at the core of the Primal health philosophy and give you a taste of what it is in my new book, The Primal Blueprint.

You’ve defined the “what”. If your goal is to lose weight, build muscle, increase energy or just generally look and feel healthier these graphics explain the basics of the “how”.


What’ll It Be? The “Sweet Spot” or the “Danger Zone”?

Carbohydrate intake is often the decisive factor in weight loss success and prevention of widespread health problems like Metabolic Syndrome, obesity and type 2 diabetes. These average daily intake levels assume that you are also getting sufficient protein and healthy fats, and are doing some amount of Primal exercise. The ranges in each zone account for individual metabolic differences.

0-50 grams per day: Ketosis and I.F. (Intermittent Fasting) zone. Excellent catalyst for rapid fat loss through I.F. Not recommended for prolonged periods (except in medically supervised programs for obese or Type 2 diabetics) due to unnecessary deprivation of plant foods.

50-100 grams per day: Sweet Spot for Weight Loss. Steadily drop excess body fat by minimizing insulin production. Enables 1-2 pounds per week of fat loss with satisfying, minimally restrictive meals.

100-150 grams per day: Primal Maintenance zone. Once you’ve arrived at your goal or ideal body composition, you can maintain it quite easily here while enjoying abundant vegetables, fruits and other Primal foods.

150-300 grams a day: Insidious Weight Gain zone. Most health conscious eaters and unsuccessful dieters end up here, due to frequent intake of sugar and grain products (breads, pastas, cereals, rice, potatoes – even whole grains). Despite trying to “do the right thing” (minimize fat, cut calories), people can still gain an average of 1.5 pounds of fat every year for decades.

300+ grams a day: Danger Zone of average American diet. All but the most extreme exercisers will tend to produce excessive insulin and store excessive fat over the years at this intake level. Increases risk for obesity, Metabolic Syndrome and type 2 diabetes.

The Primal Blueprint Food Pyramid

For effortless weight loss, vibrant health, and maximum longevity read the complete article at the following link:


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MRS_TOAD 3/25/2012 12:25PM

    Carbs are such a huge weakness in this household! Thanks for all the info.

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ALLISON145 3/23/2012 9:53PM

    Less than 100 is my Carb goal for this very reason... From my experience he seems to be right!

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    I try to read my book when I have any free time.

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-LINDA_S 3/23/2012 5:43PM

    Well, that about sums it up! Thanks!

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~ Why You Don’t Need Six Small Meals A Day ~

Monday, March 19, 2012

Why You Don’t Need Six Small Meals A Day
Today a question from a reader on the subject of whether you need to eat six small meals a day.

“All the research I’ve done has said you’re supposed to eat six times a day and I pretty much do,” she wrote.

“But I’m not losing and weight and feel hungry every 2 or 3 hours. What am I doing wrong?”


The idea that you need to eat 5-6 small meals a day to “keep your body fueled and stoke your metabolism” is the stock answer given to people who want to lose weight.

But it’s actually a myth. How it got started I don’t know, but it’s been debunked so many times that it surprises me people still believe it.

The most recent study I came across, published in the British Journal of Nutrition, looked at 3 versus 6 meals a day, and concludes that “increasing meal frequency does not promote greater body weight loss.”

“There were no significant differences between the low- and high-meal frequency groups for adiposity indices, appetite measurements or gut peptides (peptide YY and ghrelin) either before or after the intervention. We conclude that increasing meal frequency does not promote greater body weight loss under the conditions described in the present study.”

In fact, research going back to the 1990′s — nearly 20 years ago — shows no difference in weight loss with 3 or 6 meals a day.

It’s a myth that’s a lot more damaging for women, as they generally need fewer calories each day than men.

Let’s take the example of a female trying to lose weight by eating 1200 calories per day.

If she was to eat six times a day, each meal would contain just 200 calories — the equivalent of a large banana and a few nuts. Such a tiny amount of food isn’t going to do much for your hunger pangs and will probably leave you wanting even more.

“Eating six meals a day, every two hours is just another way of being a slave to your lifestyle and your stuff,” writes Jason Ferruggia. “Having to eat every two hours is just more baggage. It’s like owning something else that you just don’t need. Something else you need to always take care of and revolve your life around.”

In my experience, most people don’t want to eat six times a day anyway. Who has time for that these days?


For years, we’ve been told that eating every 2-3 hours is the best way to build muscle and gain weight. However, there is some emerging research to suggest that eating too frequently could actually impair gains in muscle mass, an idea that flies in the face of conventional wisdom.

The idea is that eating too often has the potential to slow muscle growth by “desensitizing” muscle tissue to further stimulation by amino acids, increasing the rate at which protein is oxidized. Spacing meals apart and allowing amino acid levels in the blood to drop, rather than maintaining them at continuously stable levels, appears to have the greatest impact on protein synthesis. Both Layne Norton and Lyle McDonald have covered the subject in more depth here and here.

However, I should point out that much of the research out there looks at short-term changes in muscle protein synthesis rather than actual changes in muscle mass. And while the two are linked to some degree, short-term changes in protein synthesis don’t always add up to long-term gains in muscle mass.

In one of the few studies to look at the impact of meal frequency on muscle growth, researchers assigned a group of men and women with at least one year of strength-training experience to either a six-meal or a three-meal a day group. They trained four days per week for 12 weeks using the same strength-training program, giving each muscle group one heavy session and one light session per week.

Contrary to what you might expect, the three-meal group actually gained more muscle than the six-meal group.

But when I looked at the research in detail, the results weren’t as exciting as they first appeared.

The first problem is that the study was presented at a conference (12th Annual Congress of the European College of Sport Science in Jyväskylä, Finland) and not published in a journal. Important information about how the study was done is not normally included in conference proceedings, and sometimes the way a study is set up can render the results totally irrelevant.

The second problem is that calorie intake was self reported, which means that the subjects simply wrote down what they ate each day. The researchers then used these food diaries to estimate the calorie intake of each subject. However, self-reporting is a notoriously inaccurate way to estimate calorie intake, and there’s often a big difference between what people say they eat and what they actually eat.

As well as gaining more muscle, the three-meal group gained more fat than the six-meal group. This raises the possibility that the three-meal group simply ate more calories overall, which is obviously going to have a big impact on the results.

So how many meals is optimal for building muscle? I’d go with four – three meals plus a protein supplement either before or after your workout. You might do just as well with three (two meals plus a protein shake).

However, meal frequency is going to scale up with the amount of muscle mass you have. A lean and muscular 250-pound guy with high caloric needs will need to eat more often than a woman half his size. But this is being driven mainly by the difficulty of eating large amounts of food in just a few meals, rather than any significant physiological benefit of the increased meal frequency.

That’s not to say you can’t lose fat or gain muscle by eating six small meals a day. Plenty of people have done it. But it’s not necessary, or even desirable, as far as improving body composition is concerned.

Click on the following link for the complete article:

About the author:

Christian Finn holds a master's degree in exercise science, is a certified personal trainer and has been featured on BBC TV and radio, as well as in Men's Health, Men's Fitness, Muscle & Fitness, Fit Pro, Zest and other popular fitness magazines

~ Dee emoticon

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GUNNSGIRL91303 4/3/2012 12:52PM

    I eat 3 meals and a couple of healthy snacks per day. I guess some would call that 5 meals but to me there is a big difference between a meal and a handful of carrots or 1/2 cup yogurt.
Thanks for sharing the info, I tend to agree with you!

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JAZZID 3/21/2012 12:42AM

    Hi BUFFEDSTUFF, thanks for your comment... and yes, it can get complicated because we are all so very different, what works for one may not work for another. Case in point, I tried the "eat 5 - 6X's per day", "carb cycling/tapering", "recommended by a nutritionist method", and nothing really worked for me. However, in all fairness, I don't necessarily think that it was altogether how many times a day I ate, but rather "what I was eating"... a few years ago I found out that I was "carb sensitive and as a result of this, "starchy carbs" just didn't allow me to lose weight, so if I had eaten small meals throughout the day and reduced the starchy carbs, I probably would have been more successful.

To me, complicated is obsessing about food and worrying about eating every 2 - 3 hours. Most of the time I wasn't even hungry, and at this point I don't want to "force feed" myself. I now eat when I am hungry (intuitively) and I let my body dictate how much and when; so far I am averaging 2 - 4 meals a day, and eating this way forces me to make really good choices on the "quality" of the food that I eat, every meal has to be as healthy as possible.

I look at you and see how far you have come because you found what works for you. I wish it were that simple for me, I have been struggling with losing weight for awhile now and it is depressing, but quitting is not an option. I think that I have now found a plan that will work for me, but with anything, it will be trial and error until I get it right.

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BUFFEDSTUFF-- 3/20/2012 10:07PM

  How did we ever get to the point where we complicated the simple? No wonder we have a health crisis in America.

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BEFIT014 3/20/2012 6:37PM

    That's a great article. I follow the Clean Eating principles(Tosca Reno) but draw the line at 6 meals a day. 3, sometimes 2, and a snack in the afternoon-usually when my daughter & I are doing her homework-seems to be PLENTY for me.

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JUICENUT 3/20/2012 4:23PM

    Very interesting. I am one who tends toward low blood sugar and eats frequently. So thanks for the info!

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MRS_TOAD 3/20/2012 9:34AM

    Very interesting article!

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MORTICIAADDAMS 3/19/2012 10:58PM

    Eating every 2 hours might work for some people but it doesn't work for me.

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ANGELIA.R 3/19/2012 10:15PM

    I eat three main meals, sometimes only two main meals, and a few small snacks.
I found that when I reduced my carbs and started eating only real food (primal) I wasnt as hungry all the time and could get by on two or three meals daily with enough energy to keep going!

Real food ROCKS! =)

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BRAVEONE92 3/19/2012 9:25PM

    Very interesting article. Thanks for sharing.
I eat 2 meals daily & a snack or a protein
shake for lunch. I maintain my weight loss.

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-LINDA_S 3/19/2012 8:15PM

    Sometimes I tend to do better with 4 meals, but 6 is excessive. Good article!

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EGALITAIRE 3/19/2012 6:32PM

    Since going primal, I have been working on eating only when hungry, learning to listen to my body. I often won't eat breakfast until about 11 am - some 4 hours or so after getting up - about 500 calories - a small snack around 5 pm of about 200 calories and then dinner around 7 of 700 - 800 calories. Yes, if you do the math, that is only about 1500 calories every day - I am not hungry and I am losing about 8 pounds per month - still have about 35 to go. Eat when hungry has been a revelation for me - if I ate when hungry when I was a "carbivore" - I would have had to live at the grocery store.

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PRIMALMICHAEL 3/19/2012 6:18PM

    As a former carbivore, I can tell you that I had to eat 6 meals a day. When you are fueling with carbs, you can end up ravenously hungry every two hours. If I ignored it and waited, I would end up stuffing my face later.

Now that I eat Primally, I no longer have to deal with my stomach growling every two hours. It is so liberating to not be fueling with carbs.

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DARKCHILD 3/19/2012 6:08PM

    Great article!! I tried to eat 6 small meals and ended up gaining weight..I over ate as well as obsessed about when and what to eat next. I'm better off eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner and a snack here and there!

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LNZMANSFIELD 3/19/2012 4:11PM

    That is interesting to know and thank you for sharing! I eat 3 meals and have a small snack if and when I am hungry between meals.

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LYNETTEMOM 3/19/2012 2:33PM

    interesting that there are contradictory theories. Each person needs to evaluate their own needs, successes, etc. It is YOUR journey!

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~ ... the Achevore diet! aka Paleo 2.0 ~

Monday, March 12, 2012

One man's opinions on health, science, and the essentials of diet... by Kurt Harris MD

An Archevore is someone who eats based on essential principles, and also someone who hungers for essential principles. Take your pick.

Exploring these principles is one of my interests, but not the only one.

So you may find commentary here about other issues in medicine, health, other sciences, or just about anything.

Archevore is written, produced, and directed by me. I am an independent science writer with no outside sponsorship from any private firm, NGO or, Zeus forbid, government agency. Donations are greatly appreciated.

The Archevore Diet - A pastoral whole foods diet that can improve your health by more closely emulating the evolutionary metabolic milieu (EM2) and avoiding the hazards of industrial foodways.

This diet is a practical framework using whole foods easily available in the 21st century. It is designed to be as universal as possible. The average person who adopts it in preference to the standard American diet should be healthier in every respect, and will usually settle at a more optimal body composition spontaneously.

The diet minimizes putative neolithic agents of disease (NADs) and ensures adequate micro-nutrition.

The diet is designed to be healthy and sustainable as long as you are alive and to offer plenty of satisfaction, while minimizing food reward effects that lead to overeating.

Historically, many find this diet results in spontaneous reduction in caloric intake and in health-improving fat loss, with no measuring, weighing or special supplements. I eat this way myself, of course.

Although this diet is a framework designed to work well for as many people as possible who are starting with a western diet, it will not necessarily work well enough, or completely enough, for everyone who needs to lose fat or for anyone afflicted with any particular disease. For fat loss, more radical maneuvers might be necessary, depending on the etiology of your obesity.

This information is offered as a free piece of educational information to anyone who finds it useful and is not to be considered individualized dietary or medical advice.

Your health is your responsibility. If you have any doubts about the advisability of any dietary maneuver that might affect your health, consult a competent physician.

Go as far down the list as you can in whatever time frame you can manage. The further along the list you stop, the healthier you are likely to be. Earlier steps, in my clinical experience, will give more bang for the buck.


There is no counting, measuring, or weighing. Calories count, but why bother counting?

1. Get plenty of sleep and deal with any non- food addictions.

2. Eliminate sugar and all caloric drinks.

Drink water, tea or coffee. No sodas, sports drinks, juices, or milk. Don't add sugar to your food or eat things made with sugar or high fructose corn syrup.

3. Eliminate gluten grains and wheat flour.

No cake, cookies or pastries. No bread or pasta, whole grain or otherwise.

This rule and rule #2 pretty much eliminate anything that comes in a box.

WHITE RICE and whole meal corn products are reasonable sources of starch if tolerated, but not as nutritious as plant storage organs (root vegetables).

4. Eliminate seed oils - grain and seed derived oils (cooking oils) Eat or fry with with ghee, pastured butter, animal fats, or coconut oil. Avoid temperate plant oils like corn, soy, canola, flax, walnut, etc. Go easy on the nuts, especially soy and peanuts.

5. 2 or 3 meals a day is best. No snacking. You're not a herbivore. Whole foods prepared at home should be the rule. Low meal frequency is a powerful tool if you have weight to lose.

6. Whole foods from animals. Eat them for the protein, the micronutrients and the fuel.

Favor grass-fed ruminants like beef and lamb for your red meat. These meats have excellent n-6/n-3 ratios and their saturated and monounsaturated fats are a great fuel source. Wild game is good if you can process it yourself- but commercial venison and bison is too lean and is expensive.

Eat fish a few times a week and pastured eggs if you like them.

Eat offal for the vitamins and choline- some fresh beef liver 1-2 times a week is plenty. Mix it with your ground hamburger if you prefer. Pastured butter is good source of K2.

7. Choose fuels from the EM2. Both animal fats and starchy plant organs are time-tested fuel sources for humans.

Animal fats are an excellent dietary fuel and come with lots of fat soluble vitamins. It can work very well to simply replace your sugar and wheat calories with animal fats. If you are not diabetic and you prefer it, you can eat more starch and less animal fat. A low carb diet can rely more on ruminant fat and pastured butter.

Plant storage organs like potatoes and sweet potatoes are nutrient laden and well tolerated by most people. Bananas and plantains are convenient starchy fruits. The soluble fiber in all these starchy foods is very likely beneficial, unlike the insoluble fiber in bran.

If you are not diabetic, there is no reason whatsoever to avoid either animal fats or starches in whole food form.

8. Make sure you are Vitamin D replete. Get daily midday sun in season or consider supplementation if you never get outside.

9. Vegetables and fruits - Besides starchy plants for fuel and micronutrients, eat a variety of different colored plants of whatever you like and tolerate. Think hormesis. Some is better than none, but neither big salads nor fruit to excess will save your life. You're not a gorilla, you're an omnivore

10. Get proper exercise - both resistance and "aerobic" exercise have benefits, including mental. Think hormesis again- the recovery periods are where you get the benefit. Lift weights every day or run marathons for "fun", but not for your health.

11. You won't get too much fructose eating reasonable quantities of fruit, but don't make it your staple. Most modern fruits aren't really just bags of sugar. That was hyperbole, folks, a rhetorical technique. Bananas rich in starch and citrus fruits are preferred. Don't go nuts with watermelon and agave, which are nearly pure fructose. Beware stone fruits like peaches and apricots if you have IBS - the polyols are fermented in your colon.

*A diet based on beef and potatoes is healthier than one based on granny smiths or 30 bananas.

12. If you are allergic to milk protein or concerned about theoretical risks of casein, you can stick to butter and avoid milk, cream and soft cheeses. Aged cheeses 6 months and older may not have beta-casomorphin and are good sources of K2.

No counting, measuring or weighing is required, nor is it encouraged.

I am agnostic on macro-nutrient ratios outside of very broad parameters.

Archevore eaters typically range from:

- 5-35% carbohydrate
-10-30% protein
-50 to 80% fat (mostly from animals)
... but wider ranges are entirely possible if you are not dieting and you are meticulous about the quality of your animal food sources.

If you are trying to lose weight, really minimizing fructose and eating 50-70g a day of carbohydrate as starch is recommended. Skipping breakfast or at least no carbs for breakfast can be very helpful.

you are at your desired weight and healthy, 20% of calories as carbs is plenty for most very active people.

It is perfectly acceptable if you don't gain fat with it to eat more starch and less animal fat.

Note that the 19th century categories called "Fat" and "Carbohydrate" are each broad macro-nutrient categories that contain both good and bad.

Saturated and monounsaturated fat is generally good. A lot more than 4% of calories from PUFA (whether n-3 or n-6) is likely bad.

- For healthy non-diabetics, starch is good.
- Excess fructose (added sugar) may be bad.

In wheat, the carbohydrate starch is probably not the major problem. It is the gluten proteins and wheat germ agglutinin that come along with the starch that are suspect.

So forget "carbs vs fat".

It is neolithic agents of disease versus everything else. And consider that the way food is prepared and its cultural context (food reward) may itself prove to be a NAD.

Most Archevores only know macro-nutrient metrics in retrospect, as they don't target numbers just like wild humans didn't target numbers.

Your mileage may vary!

So eat what you want. This is simply free advice that has worked very well for me and at least hundreds of patients and readers. I'm not trying to save the world, as I find it generally does not want saving.

Note: The order of the steps is arrived at by balancing my best guess at the noxiousness of each neolithic agent or food with the prevalence of each agent in the north American diet and the effort/reward ratio of the step. If your culture has a different diet the order of the steps might change. For instance, Chinese who fry everything they eat in soybean oil and don't eat much wheat would move step three up to the step two position.

* If you prefer to suffer with a calculator and scale without trying this first, knock yourself out, but why not try it first? If it doesn't work, go to 70g of carbs a day and take out whatever foods you are "enjoying" the most. If that doesn't work, then you might indeed have to count calories. You might have lost the genetic lottery or it may just be too late.

Click the link below to access more information about this diet:


~ Dee emoticon

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MRS_TOAD 3/15/2012 9:09AM

    Thank you for being such a great source of information. I have learned so much from you!

Maybe someday Heidi and I can come by for a play date even if it is virtual! emoticon

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JAZZID 3/13/2012 9:41PM

    Hi Char, I had heard about the study on the news the other day. This study was done last year. I don't eat red meat, but I do eat nitrite/nitrate free bacon. I agree with most of what he says and most of what the paleo/primal diet stands for, however, for all studies, health/fitness programs, one has to do what is best for them, and the author says,

"This information is offered as a free piece of educational information to anyone who finds it useful and is not to be considered individualized dietary or medical advice.

Your health is your responsibility. If you have any doubts about the advisability of any dietary maneuver that might affect your health, consult a competent physician."

He mentions quite a few ways of how a person can add healthy fats to the diet, so it's not just limited to eating red meat or any animal protein.

Regarding the when and how much to eat, well, that is an individual thing. I have tried the eat your breakfast every morning, eat 5 - 6 meals a day, etc., and it just didn't work for me. I have also been to a nutritionist and followed the program prescribed, based on the SAD, to the letter, and made no progress at all. So I had to think out of the box, and consider and accept that, the SAD that I had been following for years, is perhaps, "not working". With the help of my Spark friend, MELTNSUE, I decided to take the plunge and try the paleo/primal lifestyle, and discovered that this lifestyle encompasses far more than just how and what you should eat, it is a true lifestyle.

The principles of the paleo/primal diet has helped me become more intuitive about my eating now, and I eat "only" when I am hungry, and that may not be in the morning. I feel great and I have energy, and if I feel weak or if my workouts suffer, my body will let me know and I will feed it according to "how I feel"... I was very skeptical about this type of program, i.e, the paleo/primal lifestyle, however, once I lost from 168 to 154 and my LDL level went from 127 to 117 was amazed and definitely on board for the long haul. I love it! I still have lots to learn and I am doing a hybrid of both programs.

The paleo/primal lifestyle, is not for everybody that's for sure, but I can honestly say that for the first time in, I don't know how many years, I feel comfortable with this way of eating and the principles/science behind the paleo/primal lifestyle, and so does my doctor emoticon

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    I can't do wild game or offal but the rest sounds okay.

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MARVELOUS50S 3/13/2012 4:07PM

    I guess the author of this study does not know about the new study publish today(please see Yahoo) which states that eating red meat is bad for you. Also heard it on the news this morning while getting dress. It states that eating red meat daily can up your mortality rate by 20%.

There is a whole article on the dangers of consuming so much red meat.

It gets to the point "What do you do and Which study is accurate?"

Also I find it hard for "me" to consume just two to three meals a day. You are told to exercise and lift weights but if you want to lose weight to eat low calories and just two or three meals a day but by the way "skip breakfast" which is suppose to be the most important meal of the day, by "everyone".

Interesting article and I guess great for those who may want to follow it.

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MEEBELO 3/12/2012 11:59PM

    Great info. Thanks!

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EXOTEC 3/12/2012 10:21PM

    Nice standards. I've been pretty much keeping to this, although not by intent.
I find if I let my carbs slip up beyond 70-ish I'm stalled, tho. All the values seem in accordance with most of the low-carb/ancestral/primal diets, within reason.

I do venture out with some starchy veggies, simply because I can't handle most of the cabbage family or "leafy greens" sorts, other than salads. I'm a fanatic for rice though, and feel like I'm "cheating" when I get into that. But I limit it because I see the values are way beyond what I'm willing to sacrifice otherwise to have it. I still do it occasionally in small amounts, nevertheless.

But this is a nice approach. Thanks for posting!

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ALLISON145 3/12/2012 6:16PM

    See, on the longer term I like his approach better. Feels less demonizing of potatoes/rice/fruit. Once the 21 days is up, I'm with you - that stuff is coming back in moderation!

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HEALTHY4ME 3/12/2012 4:50PM

    OH thanks Dee....
Well very very interesting stuff. I agree with this, not a lot diff than paleo/primal stuff. I have as you know had a hard time the past few days with debating if I need to figure the ratios and how much carbs and fat i am eating.
He says no need to do any of this just eat properly. I think he hit the nail on the head where he said stop eating "things you are mostly enjoying! LOL and go to 70 carbs a day. "
So this is what I had been thinking today before reading this, will log my food for while to watch my carb intake and see, cos sure it is too high and know I have been high in fat lately.
put that page as a fav. cos want to re read adn check it out.
Thanks so much!!! More food for thought LOL

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~ Paleo, starchy vegetables and potatoes ~

Monday, March 12, 2012

... I stopped by the Paleo Life Style website and found this article that I thought would interest those of you who want to include starches like "white potatoes" in your diet.
Another misconception running around in the Paleo community is that starchy vegetables are unhealthy and that regular white potatoes are especially bad. The bias against starchy vegetables probably comes from the low-carb ideas about a healthy paleo diet.

It’s important to understand that our ancestors probably enjoyed caloric-dense starchy vegetables as much as they could once they knew how to cook them properly, which dates back a very long time ago. The amount of amylase, an enzyme that digests starch, in our saliva is much higher than in most other mammals, showing that we became adapted to eat and digest starchy vegetables.

We now know than an optimal diet is not a long-term zero or very low carb diet and that some amount of carbohydrates is healthy and desirable. In fact, in a discussion about the perfect macro-nutrient ratio, it has been established that 20% of our calories as carbs is probably optimal. Obtaining that amount of carbohydrates by eating only non-starchy vegetables is very difficult if not impossible and is not necessary at all. Many people understand the need for at least some carbohydrates, but choose fruits instead of starchy vegetables to fulfill that need. This is fine as long as fruits are eaten in very moderate amount, but the fructose content of most fruits makes them problematic in too high amount.

Contrary to the simple sugars like glucose and fructose found in fruits, starchy vegetables are often mostly starch, a polymer of glucose molecules. Starch is broken to simple glucose molecules in our digestive systems and our bodies ends up only dealing with glucose, which is a sugar that can be used by all our cells for energy, contrary to the toxic fructose.

Therefore, as a source of carbohydrate, starchy vegetables, provided that they don’t contain toxic proteins, are often healthier than most fruits. They are also often very nutritive and contain high amounts of some key minerals and vitamins.

Of course, the story is almost never all black or white and two main subgroups of people might want to take it slow on the starchy vegetables:

Metabolically deranged people: Those with a broken metabolism that isn’t insulin sensitive anymore might find it hard not to overeat starchy vegetables and might struggle to lose weight if they eat just a little too much of them. Those people often do better if they go on a lower carbohydrate diet for a while in order to heal and help their body learn to use fat as a source of energy. Some people might never be able to go on a higher carb diet, but most people end up being able to include healthy amounts of carbohydrates without problems after a while.

People with digestive issues such as bacterial overgrowth: Some people with digestive issues and IBS-like symptoms, especially those suffering from bacterial overgrowth in the small intestine, have a hard time breaking down starch and should limit their overall starch consumption.

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Regular white potatoes are a vegetable that has received its load of hatred from the Paleo diet community in general, often without reason. It’s already established that, like eggplants, tomatoes and bell peppers, potatoes are in the nightshade family of vegetables and can create problems for those already sensitive to other nightshades. Unlike other nightshades though, most of the toxins are found in the skin of potatoes and not in their flesh. We now have access to simple tools to detoxify vegetables such as potatoes: potato peelers.

Potatoes, especially green potatoes and those with green spots (try not to pick those), also contain saponins, mainly solanine and chaconine, which are also toxic in high dose. Once again, the major part of those compounds is found in the skin and is easily removable. Many studies have failed to demonstrate that the amount of those compounds found in commercially available potatoes could be detrimental to our health.

It’s very important to keep in mind that virtually all vegetables contain some amounts of toxins. Potatoes are no exception, but are often not any worse than other commonly eaten vegetables. This is why it’s a good idea to eat a diet that’s diverse when it comes to plants.

I myself have been dealing with digestive issues and many otherwise healthy food choices are still off limits for me. In spite of that, I tolerate potatoes pretty well and include them as a source of healthy carbohydrates in my diet. Many people are in similar situations where they struggle to properly digest many sources of carbohydrates while peeled and cooked potatoes are just fine.

Potatoes are a great source of vitamin C, potassium, vitamin B6 and magnesium. Potatoes are also a source of complete protein and can be eaten exclusively in periods of scarcity without the risk being protein deficient. Many cultures have thrived on diets very high in potatoes

I’ve abstained from including recipes with regular potatoes in the past in order not to confuse people, but I can not stay on the safe side anymore and have to speak the truth in what’s really healthy and what’s not. I’ve already done so in showing that most nuts and seeds are often suboptimal, even if many people swear by them. The association against potatoes is strong and will take a long time for some people to break.

Some people with digestive issues might still want to abstain from potatoes, like they should already do for other nightshade vegetables like tomatoes or peppers, but most healthy people can eat potatoes, without the skin, and benefit from them. Starting now, some of the recipes on this site will feature potatoes. If you’re still not sure about eating potatoes from everything you’ve heard around the Paleo diet circles, now is the time to practice your skeptic muscle, try them for yourself and see how it goes.

Click here for the article:


... after my 21 day challenge, I will be adding peeling white potatoes back in to up my carbs. Stay tuned, "white rice" is now also accepted in the paleo diet!

~ Dee emoticon

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MRS_TOAD 3/14/2012 9:29AM

    I love baked potatoes, but as in all things, moderation!

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MELTNSUE 3/13/2012 8:49PM

    Thanks Dee. I have been allowing the kids the occasional potato ever since I heard Robb Wolf say they were okay as long as you stay away from the skin. They'll be glad to see me ease up on them a bit more. emoticon

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ANGELIA.R 3/12/2012 3:04PM

    Love potatoes!
Eat them once in a while. I prefer Yukon gold's though! With a bit of butter and garlic!

White rice hasn't been added back in yet, but we'll see.

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LADYROSE 3/12/2012 1:35PM

    Nice - I like when folks help to make the 'forbidden' stuff less, well, taboo. Thing is, people in general insist on doing non-paleo workouts (ie lots of higher intensity cardio) and eating low carb, then burning out. So sad when the tasty tubers are there to help with replacing the glycogen!

It's funny, I go in phases where I can't get enough sweet potatoes (usally deficient in A at that point) but lately I've been all about white potatoes - must be the potassium. :)

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HEALTHY4ME 3/12/2012 12:40PM

    Thanks I am still finding it so hard to know what to eat other than meat meat, veggies and fruit and nuts...

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MYLADY4 3/12/2012 12:24PM

    Thanks for this validation. I am training for a half marathon and reading Paleo for Athletes and he says that carbs should be increased too. I don't mind a good red potato, sweet potato or fingerlings and now I know I should really have some more of these. Now to just figure out WHEN to eat these.

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JUSTBIRDY 3/12/2012 11:26AM

    zero carb isn't optimal for me, either. I enjoy my squash and non-starchy tubers. thanx!!!

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GOPINTOS 3/12/2012 11:25AM

    I am just starting to learn, and found this very interesting. (Especially since I have a 50# bag sitting in my basement....)

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EXOTEC 3/12/2012 11:24AM

    Nice compiled blog. I do like potatoes in moderation. I try to stay away from too many starchy things, but I will occasionally share a tater with the DH, or make some mashed that I can portion out into smaller "doses". Truly though, if I'm tempted toward starchy veggies, I prefer the yams/sweet potatoes, or peas. I resist those too, but do sometimes give in and have small amounts. I don't feel that complete restriction of ALL starchy veggies is necessary, at least for me. I'm sure everyone has their requirements and those are unique to us all.

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