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Gary Taubes book

Wednesday, February 15, 2012

I am almost done reading the book by Gary Taubes "Why we get fat and what to do about it" which is a simplified version of his much more comprehensive book "Good Calories, Bad Calories". Gary Taubes talks about the connection between overeating and weight gain in a different way than what most of us are used to hearing: Prompted by hormones, primarily insulin, our body will store calories we eat, regardless of whether they are carbs or fat, in the fat cells in our body. Insulin can cause this to happen regardless of whether we need these calories for energy at the moment or not. According to Taubes this means that if our insulin levels are high enough and our body needs to use energy we will get hungry because all the available calories are put away in the fat cells where they are unavailable for use. Therefore obesity is the cause of overeating, not overeating the cause of obesity.
Taubes makes the comparison of a young person growing. To say that a child is growing because they are overeating is obviously ridiculous. We assume that growth and physical changes during adolescence are the result of hormonal changes and that teenagers eat a lot BECAUSE they are growing.
Increasing insulin levels are caused by consuming carbohydrates and those carbs with the highest glycemic index are considered the worst. There are other reasons given for why some people seem to store a lot of calories they eat in fat tissue while other people seem to deposit them in muscle tissue where they are used for energy. Genetics play a role here.
When I look at my dogs I know that this is true. My whippets were bred for racing and they have probably no more than 3 percent body fat. People who don't know and understand the breed will occasionally ask questions about how often and how much I feed them and are suprised to hear that these dogs eat huge amounts and get one of the most expensive dog foods on the market.
My Beagle Honey is on the other end of the spectrum. When she came to us she weighed 47 lbs. at 2 years of age. I know that she was part of a research colony for a nutritional study but I don't know what her diet consisted of before we got her. I put her on a low-fat, high-fiber diet and fed her small portions, 1/4 cup of food twice a day. This was 8 years ago and I had never questioned the wisdom of cutting fat and calories and increasing fiber and activity for weight loss. In this case my approach worked. Honey lost 20 lbs. in 3 months, rivaling "Biggest Loser" results. She is now on 1 cup of high-quality food a day, about 30% carbs, 40%fat and 30%protein. Not ideal for a dog but she maintains her weight with the help of portion-control and regular exercise. Beagles commonly have hypothyroidism but this one does not, she's just a glutton who would eat 40 lbs. of food a day if I let her and regain all the weight she lost very quickly. Unlike the whippets she is not very fast (well, still faster than I am) but she can go all day for 20 miles or more easily, an incredible endurance athlete. Most of my other dogs are also more built for endurance and have a fairly slow metabolism which allows them to maintain weight on most foods. Dogs, more than many other species have been bred for extremes in looks and in function and are a good example to see how diverse their needs are in the area of nutrition. There is no reason to assume that there aren't major differences in the ways people's metabolism functions. I know some people who will not put on weight regardless of what they eat. Of course this does not mean that they are healthy regardless of what they eat, but calories in-calories out is not the same for everyone. Most people with thyroid issues struggle far more to lose weight and keep it off. There are dozens of hormones in our bodies that may play a role in what our bodies do with food. Jillian Michael's book "Master your metabolism" is a good introduction to endocrinology for people who are not in the medical profession and explains how more than 10 different hormones affect our weight.
I'm not sure where exactly I'm going with all of this, I want to do more research. But I think I have enough evidence to give a low-carb diet a try over the next few weeks. I'll make it even a little lower-carb than originally planned, shooting for under 50 grams of carbs. What percentage of my fat and protein intake will be animal (dairy, meat) and what percentage will be plant-based (nuts, coconut, olive oil, avocado) I don't know yet. But I will cut out all grain and beans and some fruit for a few weeks and see what happens. I will also continue to eat large amounts and a wide variety of raw vegetables and will eat mostly organic food, animal-protein from pasture-fed animals.

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HOUNDLOVER1 3/5/2012 6:01PM

I think going off a low-carb diet will lead most people to regain the weight. Eating low-carb IS a normal diet, while the typical North American Diet is not "normal" if you look at results. I do think that some people can increase the carbs they eat a little bit when they reach their goal weight while other people have messed up their body enough to where they have to stay on low-carb for the rest of their lives to stay healthy. Also, some people need to exercise more to get to a healthy weight. Eating low-carb will allow your body to utilize the energy (calories) in your muscle cells rather than storing them in your fat cells. Once you eat low-carb you can actually benefit from exercising by drawing on your body's fat stores to fuel your workouts. emoticon

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JACKAAT 3/5/2012 2:10PM

  I really liked the book and I am in the process of reading it again. Reality is it isn't for everyone. My office mate and I both read Taubes book and started following the low carb diet. I lost 15 pounds rather quickly and my office mate lost 20. I went on vacation and went back to my normal eating. I did not regain any weight (it has been 6 months) however I find it is harder to give up the carbs the second time around. My office mate has religiously stayed with the low card diet but has not lost any more weight.
If one thing worked for everyone the diet industry wouldn't make a fortune off those desperate to try the latest and greatest.
Find what works for you and stay with it. We didn't get this way over night and nothing is going to take it away in a few weeks or days.
I was raised that if something was worth having it was worth working for and nothing worth having is going to be given to you for free.
Find what works for you and stick with it. You're worth it!

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DIVEGODDESS 2/21/2012 1:57AM

    Your reference to the dog breeds is a really great way of explaining the difference needs we all have in terms of genetics. That's why low carb does not work for me and I can gain muscle on high starchy carbs while many people can not. The important thing is to keep trying different thing until you find something that works!

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PATTYCAKE17 2/17/2012 11:54AM

    This is such an informative blog. I wrote down the name of the book and author, and will add it to my reading research list. I also love researching health and nutritional information, and if i were younger and starting over, I would definitely enter the health field. Where were you going with this blog, you ask? Well, right at me, thank you very much. My blood work just came back with high sugar numbers, so I am going to nutritionally avert Diabetes, because i know i can, with the help of the Lord, and getting a good education on the subject. I love to follow your blogs. Yoiu're such a sharing person, God bless you for that. emoticon emoticon

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MZLADY77 2/17/2012 9:42AM

    Thanks for sharing! emoticon

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BOBBIENORTHERN1 2/17/2012 9:31AM

  Sure makes a lot of sense to me. But, please remember we do need some carbs and some grains, but, veggies are carbs aren't they?

It is also very true we have to learn our own personal needs for losing weight because we are all different and one plan for losing weight does not fit all.

For me so far it has been trial and error figuring out what works for me that's why I like this blog because it is so true and thanks for sharing this.

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MARTHASPARKS 2/16/2012 7:43PM

    Your blogs are always interesting and informative. I'm cutting my car s, too because I'm stuck. I have always recognized that I had to keep my carb to protein ratio lower than Spark said but this helps me understand why.

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-LINDA_S 2/16/2012 7:17PM

    Very interesting stuff! We probably are all quite different like the dogs. And yet another book I should read! I'll add it to the list...

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4A-HEALTHY-BMI 2/16/2012 6:57PM

    It is hard to get less than 100 g of carbs.

I eat no grains or starchy vegetables or legumes or added sugar and only two pieces of fruit a day (medium sized apples) and lots of leafy greens and I usually end up with ~100-150g of carbs anyway. About 30-50g of them are fiber, and about 60-80g are sugars.

I will be interested to hear what you are actually eating, in order to manage less than 100 g of carbs per day.

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HOUNDLOVER1 2/16/2012 12:47PM

    Thank you for all the feedback. emoticon
I hope to find time later today to respond to some of your very interesting comments individually.

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KWILLIAMS55 2/16/2012 12:26PM

    emoticon for sharing.

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DEC2DEC 2/16/2012 11:12AM

    Great book -- and I'm excited by the changes you're making!!

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FREELADY 2/16/2012 11:11AM

    Wow, this is fascinating! Thanks!

It has been true in my experience that keeping the carbs low takes care of the hunger problem. After Noah's Flood, the Creator told people to eat meat, and I am finding it very satisfying (with non-starchy vegetables and some fruit).

I have been doing the Leptin Reset prescription recommended by Jack Kruse for a month now; I do use a small amount of raw milk, cheese, and yogurt. My weight is holding steady as predicted for this stage, but I feel great. Joint pain is gone and energy is excellent (I'm in my fifties).

I'm very glad to get this info and book referral with more data about the insulin mechanism. You are a great researcher and I hope you'll keep passing this valuable stuff on to us!

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HEALTHY4ME 2/16/2012 8:45AM

    I have started that since Jan and was doing great. I still am proud to say haven't had any grains other than every 3rd day have a med bowl of oatmeal.... I am struggling to get enough protein and fat and in the right ratio. This past week or so I have been very hungry more for junky stuff and am tired even after sleeping for 8-9 hrs.
So will get back down to the proper carbs, as I am getting too high, eeven though I don't eat grains finding too many higher carb/GI index fruit I guess.
Anyway do feel better, was losing wt only a lbs a week most time but will see Sat how I have done I would say this has been my worst week. Which is really a great thing for me as it is still way way better than before. I read why we get fat and agree, am waiting for a few more similar books from library.
Also I do very limited exercise other than house renos. Just got my knee brace which I am hoping will allow me to walk better and further.
HUGS and keep letting us know how this works out.

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KANOE10 2/16/2012 8:03AM

    I just finished reading that book also. I learned a great deal. I have been eating low carb for over a year and like it. Where I have trouble with his book is that he promotes high fat foods like butter, cream, and high fat cheese.

Nice blog. Have a great day.

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CONRADBURK 2/16/2012 6:10AM

    Very interesting blog! I am reading "Why We Get Fat" too! I just started reading it and like it a lot! Good luck with the low carb diet and getting rid of beans and wheat! If you do both these things, you will lose weight very fast, possibly too fast! The "sweet spot" for loosing weight is 50 to 100 g of carbs per day according to Mark Sisson in "Primal Blueprint."

Keep sparking!
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APED7969 2/16/2012 5:18AM

    I like your comparison to your dogs. I'm a vet so regularly have the 'your dog is too fat' conversation and constantly see similar dogs from the same family who are fed the same amount of the same food and one will be fit and the other obese. I also consistently see fit owners with fit animals and fat owners with fat animals, it isn't the rule but it is interesting to note.

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EBLOOMING 2/16/2012 1:07AM

    emoticonInteresting...lower those carbs..fruit...wheat/breads/sugar..
.sounds like a winner. emoticon

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JANETELIZABETH1 2/16/2012 12:51AM

    Thanks Birgit for your thoughts on this subject.
I agree we do have very complicated bodies and that's why 'one size' does not fit all.
I'll be interested to hear how your experiment on 'you' goes. IMO any radical change will have an effect and you should see some results. I think most people can't sustain it for too long if it's totally against their 'normal, or desired' way of eating. Good to hear you have healthy dogs and you've taken the trouble to watch over them too.

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AMYNYNJ 2/15/2012 9:51PM

    Great analogy to use the dogs as an example. emoticon

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Long run - still contemplating grains - more raw veggies

Monday, February 13, 2012

Today I ran 11 miles, average heart rate 135, total time 2hrs. 31 min., avg. speed about 4.4 mph, slight improvement over last week. The weather was too cold for me taste and not as sunny as I had hoped. Afterwards I got pretty cold and tired and ended up taking a nap for about an hour with a hot water bottle and some cuddly dogs helping me to warm back up. I found that I really don't need water on the run if I hydrate well ahead of time in these temperatures. Total calories burned about 1400. I'm still trying to decide if I want to only do one more long run next weekend or 2 over the next 2 weekends. The second alternative would give me only one week to taper but I have the feeling that because I'm running at a low heart rate that 1 week may be enough. I'm open to recommendations though.

I'm still enjoying grains and some lower-carb sugar alternatives. I'm planning to take a look at the glycemic index and glycemic load of a variety of grains, beans and sweeteners this coming week.
We've been eating far more raw vegetables this week and I enjoy the taste. I'm not used to having to spend so much time in the kitchen, though. Will have to see if I can get my daughter involved in some more food prep.

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MAGGIE101857 2/13/2012 6:29AM

    Great run!!! emoticon

Eating healthy does take a lot of time - and work! I feel like I if I'm not at the office, then I am in the kitchen whipping up yet another healthy meal for my BH and myself. Fortunately for me, I fit in the time for my workouts before anything else!!

If it were me, I would do just one more long run and then start to taper. I am not a fast runner either....but I think I would apply the same "rules"....! emoticon

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CONRADBURK 2/13/2012 5:51AM

    I am impressed by your athletic ability! That is a long run! There is a book by Loren Cordain called "The Paleo Diet for Athletes" that may be able to give you some healthy alternatives for your carbs. I have not read the book as I am not an amateur athlete, but I believe he advises to eat things like sweet potatoes, which are a higher carb vegetable that is a better alternative to potatoes.

I am happy with just walking for exercise. At age 57, a two-hour hike for me is a good workout!
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I made a tracking mistake - this is annoying

Saturday, February 11, 2012

When I tracked my food for 2 days in mid-January I did not check that all the macronutrients of the foods I listed had actually been recorded, big mistake! I found out that they were not. On one day I ate 3 cups of yogurt and my protein was low. It turned out that the system did not automatically provide the macronutrients, just the calories, even though the brand and type I ate came up. This makes the nutrition tracker completely useless in my opinion. I just don't have time to double-check everything and enter it by hand. Fortunately I don't need to rely on it. There must be a better way than the Spark nutrition tracker. Even using an old-fashioned book would be easier.
Thank God with eating lower carb I can just follow basic principles without tracking.

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NDTEACHER1 2/14/2012 8:44PM

    I don't pay the tracker much heed either. According to it, I am always under on protein and carbs and I know that is not the case.

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EILISH99 2/12/2012 1:45PM

    I use another site to track my foods. I really hate that the tracker here will not show me the fiber intake for my foods, or the net carbs. Those are the important things to me. But it is a pain to have to use two different places to keep track of things.

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PATTYCAKE17 2/12/2012 9:54AM

    Mistakes are good when we learn from them. Sounds like you aren't alone in the tracking errors. I used to make poor choices on my Weight Watchers menus, but because I tracked, I learned from them, and have gone on to do much better. Hope everyone's suggestions will help you. emoticon

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ORGANIC811LFRV 2/12/2012 9:24AM

    Eating raw vegan you don't need to use the tracker. The tracker is primarily for those eating "healthier" and still not eating real 100% nutritional food choices. Sorry but very true.

Dairy robs the body of calcium hon. Calcium is taken from the bones to nutralize the acidic load given to the body from the dairy. Also dairy contains casein a known carcinogen. I'd prefer to hear people using soy - organic of course! - far more than any dairy.

Calcium is plentiful in the plant kingdom. Eat enough of that and you won't have any calcium deficiency. Also, have you ever heard of anyone dieing from cacium or protein deficiency? Nope! It's all promoted by the meat and dairy people to buy more of their toxic crud.

Sorry I vented. LOL


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KIM--POSSIBLE 2/12/2012 8:53AM

    Sorry that happened, I know it is frustrating. When a food is entered by another member, often everything isn't there. It takes a little more time, but I do pull up the entire nutrition info and check it against my package to make sure it is the same thing and everything is there. I usually find that there is at least 1 that is the same, though I may have to look at a couple of them first. Once you get the hand of entering foods, it doesn't take that long. It is time consuming, but I have found it worth the time.

My time is limited, with kids, work, grad school, and other responsibilities, but I found that, when I didn't track, my weight went up and I felt bad. I wasn't eating any more or that much worse, but I wasn't conscious of my carb and sodium intake, and those two things make a huge difference for me. Spark breaks it down for me so I don't have to try to remember ever little detail throughout the day.

Keep tracking and making those healthy choices! You are doing great!

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CONRADBURK 2/12/2012 7:48AM

    The SparkPeople tracker is excellent! It is so awesome! I noticed the same thing about ground sirloin. I noticed that the ground sirloin entry did not have the vitamins and minerals entered. This is the case for many of the food entries. I had to select the sirloin, which had all the nutrients, including the zinc. Many of the entries for food nutrients are taken off the Nutrition Information on the back of the package, which is not complete. I would suggest that in the case of yogurt you select the closest one and go with that. The first entries that show up on the list are the complete ones and the following ones are incomplete and have been entered by other sparkers. It is not difficult to add a food entry, and I have done so on several occasions, though my entries have been incomplete. I suggest that you not give up on the Nutrient Tracker because a certain food is not listed. If you think about it, the Food Tracker is a marvelous invention! I love tracking and have learned so much from using it and from my SparkPeople friends. Thanks so much to all of you!
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MAGGIE101857 2/12/2012 7:25AM

    Good comments all! I agree that most people are initially focusing on the calories in, calories out....and unless you have other health issues, you may not be focused on the "details". I think that comes later in the journey, and for everyone it is different. I started using MyFitnessPal over the weekend - it has a scanner and pulls up so much information - it was very very interesting to look at the nutrients the last two days and see where I stacked up (calories great but was shocked to see my sodium since I don't add salt to anything)...quite an eye opener!!!

Spark isn't perfect and it seems that in the last week, many people are commenting on their frustration with the nutrition tracking. I think the advantage to this site is meeting all of you and being able to share what we are learning along the way! Hopefully everyone will stay on board and supplement where needed! emoticon

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HOUNDLOVER1 2/11/2012 9:58PM

    I've learned from all the comments. Thank you.
For me it would be the most important to track carbs since I believe it is carbs that matter the most whether someone is successful in losing weight. For some people sodium is very important. I like the idea of tracking vitamins but it would not work because vitamins are better absorbed from some foods than from others and in some cases not at all from supplements. This is true for some minerals as well. If in doubt natural foods are probably the best if you can find them unpolluted.

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EJOY-EVELYN 2/11/2012 7:06PM

    I hear you! I check each item I place in my "favorites" so that the complete nutrient content is in tact . . . especially for the seven key nutrients I track the most. A lot of the items people enter may or may not have sodium, and I really want to get as accurate a listing as possible. This is what makes this tracker so much better than Weight Watchers as I want this total food content, not just what points I have eaten.

My biggest regret is that our labeling does not require total vitamin content. If it that important to me, I'll key in my own variation of a product based on whole foods listed on a nutritional analysis web site. (I keyed in my own egg white (33 grams) for just such reasons -- however, this takes time to do properly.)

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-LINDA_S 2/11/2012 6:16PM

    Dontcha just hate that? It's like the almighty calorie is the only thing that counts! I was just trying to find some kind of Thai food to put on my tracker for dinner, and they all just listed calories under the ones that said Thai food estimate. I don't care about the calories! So I ended up with something that had a bunch of carbs and put it on anyway. At least it had all the macronutrients. It might be hard to go low-carb at a Thai place anyway, but I'll try. And at least I can be dairy and whet-free without much problem.

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KENDRACARROLL 2/11/2012 3:04PM

    Birgit, people who are just starting out probably have enough to do by just counting calories :) At least that's how it was for me. The rest comes later, after you gain some experience and more knowledge.

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LISEIGHT 2/11/2012 3:03PM

    I too just quickly check if I need to use someone else's input. I have such a huge stock of stuff I have entered myself as favourite that I rarely need it!
I know a fair bit about nutrition too, but I just like the ese of having it all calculated adn tracked for me, on this one site. The whole idea of tracking somewhere else and the time that would take, hoooo gives me shivers!

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HOUNDLOVER1 2/11/2012 1:43PM

you are right, I don't need the nutrition tracker but I understand that it is important for a lot of people.
Kricket, I have heard good things about the tracker on livestrong.com as well. Just wanted to share this because I figured I was not the only one who had trouble with it.
I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from tracking, just wish it were easier. People who are just staring on their weight-loss journey have enough problems to solve already. emoticon

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SEDGEY 2/11/2012 1:17PM

    Whenever using the tracker and choosing an entry input by a member, I always do a quick check on the "view nutritional info" button to make sure that all the information was entered. If not, I use another one.

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MARTHASPARKS 2/11/2012 12:19PM

    Birgit, you know enough about nutrition that you don't need to use the tracker. It's beneficial for people who need to track to stay on track, for those learning about nutrition, and those trying to modify their eating habits for weight loss. You don't really fit in any of those groups

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KENDRACARROLL 2/11/2012 12:14PM

    I use the nutrition tracker as a general guideline.
Many member-entered foods on SP have incomplete info.
Plus, do you really know that food labels are accurate?
Check out the tracker at livestrong.com, maybe you'll like that one better.

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TAMPATINK67 2/11/2012 12:11PM

    I understand the frustration. Yesterday when I recorded the Spaghetti Squash Marinara dish from Ruby Tuesdays, I found a few other Spark people had already recorded the dish. When I looked at my final day, I was low on carbs (and that's a vegetarian dish...). The person who recorded it entered only calories. I went to the company website for the full nutritionals, re-entered calories and macronutrients provided, and the day made more sense.

I guess it's like any other database that allows end-users to input items - garbage in, garbage out!

I'd unfortunately learned this lesson a few months ago, but guess I got lazy about pressing the "nutritional info" button under the add to tracker button (to see if the other uderhas added macros or calories only) when the item was clearly entered by another user (USERNAME will be in parenthesis) after the product name/description.

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PCOLAGATOR 2/11/2012 12:10PM

    All the nutrition information that Sparkpeople provides is correct and complete. If you chose to use information created by a user then you have to deal with the possibilities of inaccuracies

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Some more running improvement

Friday, February 10, 2012

I just had my best run since starting to use the Maffetone method. I ran for one hour, covered 4.7 miles, so 4.7 mph and average pulse was 134. This is taking into account an increase in speed for the last 1/4 mile. Ending heart rate was 152.
It will be interesting if this improvement will carry into my long run this weekend.
I could also tell my legs were finally getting a little bit of a challenge again. They feel a little tired now. I really like running by time rather than by distance.
Looks like my plateau and then regression is over for now. So now I have hope of actually improving my time from last year's half marathon of 2hrs. 47 min.
I have not decided at what pace to try to run the half-marathon yet. I still have 3 weeks and will wait and see how the next two long runs go. Instead of increasing miles I'll will run both of them for 2 hrs. 30 minutes and see if I can cover more ground during that time.
It was cold and foggy outside so now I'll reward myself with some nice vegetarian lentil stew with melted cheese on top that my daughter made for us yesterday. Yum. emoticon

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KKINNEA 2/14/2012 12:50PM

    When I ran my marathon this weekend, I chatted with one of the guys I coached/paced about Maffetone - I think he's going to check it out!

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SPEEDYDOG 2/14/2012 9:19AM

    Great work. I am going to need to check out the "Maffetone method"

Thanks, Bruce

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    emoticonKeep up the good work! emoticon

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FREELADY 2/10/2012 10:52PM

    I love hearing about new approaches.

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TAMPATINK67 2/10/2012 8:21PM

    Nice progress! emoticon

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Figure Skating day

Friday, February 10, 2012

I had so much fun today. My confidence at figure skating is growing. I'll never be as good as my daughter who is already working on several jumps after just a couple of months of lessons. But my balance is getting better and I'm working some leg muscles and core muscles that don't get much of a challenge when I run, especially glutes, so it's a good form of cross-training. I always really enjoyed figure-skating as a kid but we did not live close enough to an ice rink to go very often and I never had lessons. Now that my daughter is getting lessons I get to watch and learn along with her. Today I've started working on one-foot spins and the waltz jump. I can tell that my balance is getting better with backwards crossovers in both direction and also with using inside and outside edges when skating backwards. As my confidence grows I bend in the knees better which results in much better movement. The other day my daughter took some video which helped me to see what I need to work on.
Some of my experiences from balance in horseback riding and running transfer to ice skating and that helps a lot. Fortunately there are a lot of free videos to learn from on youtube that I can look at to help me along as well.
I'm getting used to having much more energy in the late afternoon and early evening so I did not even think about it much. I have to assume that it is due to a wheat free diet since I did not change anything else.

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ONUTHIN125 2/12/2012 1:20PM

    emoticonSounds like fun! emoticon emoticon

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MARTHASPARKS 2/10/2012 10:08PM

    Oh what fun!

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FRAN0426 2/10/2012 6:53PM

    I skated a lot outdoors growing up and loved it. It is a wonderful exercise, and enjoyment rolled into one. My daughter took lessons and was in a skating club (all indoors ) for several years---so nice you can work on your skating and learn along with her. Keep up the good skating.

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DEC2DEC 2/10/2012 10:10AM

    I'm glad you're having fun. I would love to skate again some day. I did it as a pre-teen and LOVED it.

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FREELADY 2/10/2012 7:40AM

    You inspire me to try this again!

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    Good for you! I love skating, but not the cold, so I choose to rollerskate. There's nothing better to me than leaving the stress of the day on the skating floor, or in your case, ice. Best wishes to you!

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ORGANIC811LFRV 2/10/2012 6:08AM

    Not only great exercise but enjoyable as well. It's wonderful to skate.

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LISEIGHT 2/10/2012 5:17AM

    Wow, that sounds amazing! Fun and workout all in one! Well done you for doing something as an adult that too many would consider only for kids! I am not surprised you feel energised from it: you are mixing the grace of dancing and sliding with physical exertion, fun, and fresh air! Good on you!

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