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FANGFACEKITTY and the Travel Gremlins

Monday, April 09, 2012

I am now home from 2 weeks of Road Warriorhood and glad to be back to a normal routine. Especially since I seemed to have been plagued by Travel Gremlins.

I spent a week in Houston, visiting suppliers and at a workshop/conference. I arrived Monday, got my car and started driving. I know better, but I had printed off directions from Mapquest the week before. I didn't realize until I started driving that for some reason only the directions to the first stop printed, and not the other 2 places I needed to go. At least I had the addresses, I thought, so I could look them up on my phone.

So, knowing Mapquest is evil, I still trusted it, and followed the instructions onto a toll road. I was prepared, I had cash. Until I saw the big signs saying "No Cash", an electronic sticker/card only. No idea if the rental car has this sticker and it was too late to get off the road so I hoped for the best. Then the toll road merged into a pay toll road...and I wound up in the exact change line, where you have to throw change into the big funnel thing. Coins, not cash. I rarely carry cash, and never coins. I just happened to have some change from an earlier purchase that morning and threw it in...and was $0.12 short. By that time there is a line of angry honking cars behind me, I am stuck because I am $0.12 short and can't back up. So I inch forward and the barrier actually goes up. I suspect I am in deep doodoo and will get a major bill in a few weeks with all sorts of penalties because I stiffed the state of Texas $0.12.

So I continue on my way, still trusting the evil Mapquest, exit the freeway and turn right per the directions. I keep driving...and driving...and realize I am going the wrong way. I am still early though so I sop for lunch and go back the way I came. I do arrive at my supplier and have a good tour and lesson on how the raw material is made. I make it to the hotel, find parking, check in and go walking through downtown Houston.

Tuesday, while in the workshop, my inner ears start to itch and my throat feels funny. I am getting sick. Oh joy. By Thursday I am coughing my lungs out, lightheaded and sniffling. Friday the fever starts. Double joy. I have another supplier visit in the morning, and because I am directionally challenged I wind up driving 15 miles in the wrong direction before realizing that I missed a turn somewhere. So I end up half an hour late. Then I start getting text messages from Delta...my flight home keeps getting delayed. I finally make it back to Detroit 90 minutes late. It's 9:30 pm by the time I collect my car and drive home, still feverish and coughing. And we have to leave Saturday afternoon. So I get to stay up late doing laundry and searching for my adapters and Euros and maps.

We leave half an hour later than I wanted on Saturday but still with plenty of time to spare. We arrive 2 full hours early, get our bags checked and make it through security with no issues, eat dinner and go hang out at the gate the Delta agent indicated when we checked our bags. By 3:15 they still had not started boarding for our 3:35 flight so we squeeze through the crowd to the counter to learn that our gate changed - and was not announced - and so we get to run a quarter mile through the terminal (and remember I am sick, feverish and coughing). We get there...and the door is closed.

No worries though! the gate agent says. We haven't started loading yet so you're still in time...because we don't have a plane yet. More joy. 3:45 - ten minutes after we were supposed to have departed - they announce that the flight has been cancelled. Then they say we have all been rebooked on another flight leaving just as soon as we can get to the new gate assignment which is clear on the opposite end of the terminal. More running, yay.

We get to the new gate and hang around there until 4:30 when they announce that only 50 people get to go because the new plane is smaller. So there is a mad rush to the counter and the agents are too busy telling people to stop crowding - because the gate is now 2 planes behind - to tell anyone if they have made the flight. And we were supposed to make our connection to 6:00 pm, from Pittsburgh to Paris. It is just over a one hour flight from Detroit to Pittsburgh...and we get bumped because there is no way to make the connection now.

We make our way to the rebooking counter. While waiting an hour in line - with only 3 people ahead of us - I get the travel agency on the phone and explain what happened. Helpful Travel Agent says you'll just have to take the late flight then. I tell her that is not an option, there is only 1 seat available on that flight. Helpful Travel Agent says "So what's the problem then?"

This travel agency is the one that booked our tickets; there are 2 of us, me and my daughter. After a few seconds of silence while I consider an appropriate response that both conveys my opinion and keeps things civil enough to get her help, I point out that there are 2 of us. Helpful travel agent says - I kid you not - "Well how many seats do you need then?"

So, needless to say, we did not get rebooked on the direct Saturday flight. The best Helpful Travel Agent can do is rebook us for a Sunday flight to Minneapolis St. Paul, and then to Paris. The Sunday direct flights are also fully booked and so not an option. Great. I live an hour's drive away from the airport, so after spending 5 hours at DTW I get to go home and come back the next day. I am beyond unhappy by that point.

But the fun is not yet over! We finally make it to the rebooking agent. I am shivering now, and feverish, my throat is on fire, I can barely speak and cannot string 5 words together without a coughing fit. I am not up to fighting weight and, like all predators, the Delta agent can sense weakness. She bares her shark like grin and swoops in for the kill.

"Your flight was cancelled b/c of a lightning strike. That's weather related and Delta doesn't owe you anything for flights that are called for weather. You'll just have to go home and come back tomorrow."

Well, it goes without saying that I won that argument. Hotel room, meal vouchers and parking were eventually forthcoming. Then, with a smile, she informs me that our luggage was put on the plane we were bumped from and is now landing in Pittsburgh. And we are going to Paris a day later via Minneapolis. I can kiss our luggage goodbye her smile says, but we can go down to baggage claim and see if they can help us.

Baggage claim lady looks at me like I'm crazy when I tell her I want our luggage back in Detroit before we depart. I just know if it is not in our possession when we leave for MSP we will not see it again for a long time. She finally agrees to route it from Pittsburgh to MSP on Sunday morning and we can verify at MSP that it is on the same plane as us.

I have trust issues though. I just know, without a doubt, that if I trust baggage claim lady we will get to Paris, our luggage will not, and we will be in France for a week with no clothes or personal items other than what is in my computer bag. However, I also know without a doubt that if I return home to pack a couple things in a carry on that our luggage will arrive to Paris with us and we will have extra bags to carry. I can't win, so I drive all the way home, we pack some extra clothes in carry ons (and I get the GPS which I had forgotten) and drive back to the airport. I have hotel and meal vouchers and I'm going to use them.

That night we check in on-line but don't have seat assignments yet. Sunday we get to the airport - still no seat assignments. I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy about making this flight but after lunch we try again, we now have seats and the plane leaves on time. Then our kind and trustworthy pilot makes an announcement. Due to bad weather at MSP we are being diverted to some other airport, and we will be put on buses and driven to MSP; unfortunately we will be several hours late.

My voice was completely gone by that point or I would have said something rude enough that would have often me arrested when the plane landed.

Then Mr. Smartass Pilot makes another announcement..."April Fools!". Yeah, I'm laughing.

We land on time, make our connection and eventually land in Paris. The agent in MSP had told us our luggage was still in Pittsburgh, but their system doesn't get updated right away so it might actually be in MSP with us, or already in France. So after clearing customs - and my daughter decides to pull her own April 1 joke by announcing she lost her passport as we are disembarking - we wait and...no luggage. We go to baggage claim...and they find it, miracle of miracles. An hour later they bring it out, so instead of 2 pieces of luggage we now have 4, plus my computer bag.

We get the car, I find my way to our office for a meeting, then to the city where our plant is. I manage to parallel park in front of the hotel. Tuesday, when I try to go to work, I am boxed in and can't get the car out. So I got to walk, fortunately it was only a 30 minute walk, but I had heels on and wasn't expecting that. By Wednesday I'm feeling much better with only a cough...and my daughter wakes up sick with a cough. By Thursday she is also stuffed up and has a fever so stays in bed. Friday we turn the car in and check into a hotel by the airport in Paris. She is still sick enough that she doesn't really feel up to any sightseeing. Saturday morning she gets up and announces she has an ear infection...and we are leaving in 3 hours to go home. No time to get her to a doctor. If you've ever flown with an ear infection you know just what kind of pain she was in for. The last 30 minutes of the flight as we were descending were hell for her.

By the time we got home we missed being able to go to urgent care by 20 minutes. So we have to drive to the ER. They look at me like I'm crazy or something when I say I want them to see here and I don't want to wait until 10 am Sunday for the urgent care to open. Ear infections are horrible, especially after she had to be on a plane, and it was only going to get worse for her at night when she tried to sleep. So she was seen, a $50 copay instead of $10 for urgent care, but at least she got started on the antibiotics.

Sunday neither of us did much of anything except sit in bed reading / watching tv or sleeping.

And despite the travel gremlins I did get my 6 days of pushups done, even if that was pretty much the only exercise I did. Weekly total pushups for last week was 750. I do believe I am winning the challenge.

  
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DEZZIEJAMES 4/17/2012 8:21AM

    WOW.... I wonder if there is a way to kill off these travel gremlins..... What a crazy trip!!!!

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SLIMMERJESSE 4/12/2012 9:21AM

    OMG! What a nightmare!

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VYVIENN 4/11/2012 1:01PM

    Oh brother! There's nothing like being on a trip sick!! I was sooooo lucky that all it took after spending a day on a plane to get to Sydney after inherting my ex-boss's wife's cold during our conference the previous week was 18 hours in bed... can't imagine going through all the rigmarole you and your daughter went through.

I sure hope you're all feeling better now!!

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SAFARIBABE 4/10/2012 1:31PM

    OMG!! I would have either been a raging lunatic OR be in jail for homicide OR been crying in a corner somewhere if I'd had to go through all of that! You are truly the Road Warrioress of all time! I hope you have an easy week now that you're home and that your daughter is feeling better! Omly an FFK could have survived all of that!!

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NAYPOOIE 4/10/2012 1:22PM

    You survived all that, you're winning, period!

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GETFIT2LIVE 4/10/2012 12:55PM

    What a nightmarish trip! Hope you both are feeling much, much better now!!

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KKINNEA 4/10/2012 12:34PM

    I wish I knew you were coming through MSP - I would have run up to the airport with medicine! Glad you prevailed in spite of it all!

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CBAILEYC 4/10/2012 11:22AM

    Holycrap you sound like my sister! She usually has so many misadventures (to put it mildly) when traveling that I'm actually afraid to anywhere with her when an airport is involved.
Thank goodness the travel is over now. For a while at least? Congrats on surviving all of that, and for sticking with the pushups.
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MCJULIEO 4/10/2012 10:48AM

    Home Sweet Home, how sweet it is!

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RUSSELL_40 4/10/2012 9:05AM

    It is amazing that they are allowed to run airports the way they do. There should be some regulation to make them schedule less flights, so they can load them correctly, and get them off on schedule. If they fail to meet standards then they could have there licenses removed. Nowhere else do they treat their customers like s**t. They know you are a hostage, and no one is going to do anything. Sure, you win a few arguments, but the argument has only one possible loser..you, so they can't lose it, just do what they are supposed to do anyways. You would think that after 100 years of flight, they would be organized.

Hope your daughter , and you, are both feelin better.

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HEIDI-25 4/10/2012 9:02AM

    So sorry for your travel nightmare :P Life is like that- sometimes it stinks, other times it is great. I am glad you are home. Get some rest, get healthy and put it all behind you.

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BOILHAM 4/10/2012 8:46AM

    I was going to say "You can't make up stuff like this", but then I remembered the movie, Planes, Trains and Automobiles.
Hope you both are feeling better soon.

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ODAYSKI11 4/10/2012 7:23AM

    OMG if I had been in your place I would have caved - on every level! Maybe 20 years ago i could have handled it like you did!! LOL.

You should be very proud of yourself, that was above and beyond making the pushup challenge - I hope you are well motivated by that! emoticon emoticon

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CODEMAULER 4/10/2012 6:55AM

    How awful all the way around. Welcome home; get some rest and regain some health.

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INIT2LIVEIT 4/10/2012 1:30AM

    OMG, What a trip from hell and back in a hand basket!
I have to admit I chuckled through most of it. These are always funnier when its someone else... (sorry)
Welcome home and rest up, you and your daughter deserve it.

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LYNETTEMOM 4/10/2012 12:27AM

    OMG, you poor thing. I hope I remember this story whenever I am tempted to feel sorry for myself regarding travel misadventures or anything else for that matter!
I sure hope you are both feeling much better now. At least home in your own bed and surroundings should be a consolation...
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GETSTRONGRRR 4/9/2012 11:08PM

    Sister, after a trip like that, not only are you ahead (by 1 day!) in the push-up challenge, but I'm gonna give you an extra goodie for winning the "Travel Story from Hell" challenge as well....after reading this, all of a sudden my travel travails are pretty small beer!

welcome back!

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Falling behind

Wednesday, April 04, 2012

Halfway through week 2 of travel now and I am so far behind in my work and SP. Can't be helped I suppose and I will get caught up again soon (I hope!).

I spent a week in Houston for a conference, which was interesting but overkill by day 3. And I came down with something while there, not enough to be truly miserable but enough to be completely blah.

Still got my pushups in for the week, between 4-6 sets a day for 6 days plus the extras I would have done in karate, for a grand total of 745.

I'm still feeling kind of blah and coughing but still doing the darned pushups. We are staying in a bed & breakfast in the city of Compiegne, France. It is a beautiful place and located in an older part of the area so the roads and sidewalks are all cobblestones. There is no way I'm going to try running on cobblestones, walking is dangerous enough. Today and tomorrow we go around with the relocation company to look at housing and school options. Friday we are taking a day in Paris before coming home on Saturday.

  
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SAFARIBABE 4/6/2012 6:46PM

    Safe travels!! Shame the weather wasn't better last week. I know what you mean about falling behind on Sparking! Between the lousy wi-fi connection at the office and not getting in til almost bedtime I found it impossible to keep up! Will be going back in July tho! Maybe then we can meet up!

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MCJULIEO 4/6/2012 9:43AM

    Way to GO!
Hope that you feel better soon!

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HOPEFULHIPPO 4/4/2012 11:53AM

    I wanna goooo!!!

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feel better :o)

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RUSSELL_40 4/4/2012 11:10AM

    If you are going to feel blah, I'm sure it feels better in France..lol. Have a great time, and hope you feel better by the time you get home.

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DOODIE59 4/4/2012 9:43AM

    Hold on a minute! I missed the fact that your job transfer was to take you to FRANCE!! What an experience:) Hope everything goes well.
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DEZZIEJAMES 4/4/2012 8:59AM

    WONDERFUL!!! Thanks for checking in!!!! I hope you are able to enjoy your trip (no pun intended on the cobblestones....)

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LODESTONE 4/4/2012 7:11AM

    Sounds like a fantastic trip and experience. Wish you were feeling better than blah to enjoy it. Agree with you about the cobblestones. Enjoy!

Awesome on the push-ups!

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Pavlov's Bicycle

Thursday, March 29, 2012

Or "Why I'm a runner, not a cyclist"

Warning - Possible TMI ahead.

There is a reason I run instead of bike. Well, several reasons, primarily because biking is not part of the black belt test and running is, but I have another reason.

I typically exercise at night, after I get home & have dinner.

This is my routine on running days: Use the restroom, change, drive the 1.7 miles to the gym, run for an hour, use the restroom, go home, shower.

This is my routine on biking days: Use the restroom, change, use the restroom, drive the 1.7 miles to the gym, use the restroom, bike for 15-20 minutes, sit there red-faced and fidgety for 2-3 minutes until I can walk really fast to the restroom without an accident, bike another 20-30 minutes & repeat, finish the hour on the bike, use the restroom, go home, use the restroom, shower.

Pavlov trained his dogs to salivate at the sound of a bell. The bike is my bell, only I'm not drooling.

I blame my mother. emoticon

  
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MCJULIEO 4/6/2012 9:44AM

    Hmmmmmm....

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FUSCHIA6 3/31/2012 10:51AM

    I think you should blame your kids for this one!
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SAFARIBABE 3/30/2012 2:22PM

    ROFLMAO!!!! Might I make a small suggestion...Are you sure you have your seat set at the right height? I can go 90mins without stopping -- well without stopping other than to reset the time cause the ones at my gym only allow for 60min sets. Have you considered the elliptical for cross-training?

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RUSSELL_40 3/30/2012 10:13AM

    If Pavlov's dog had this response, we wouldn't have heard of Pavlov, or his dog..lol.

May be time for a differnt kind of exercise on non running days. The pools will be open in a month.

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RUNNER4LIFE08 3/30/2012 9:27AM

    LOL.....

I actually have more bathroom issues when I run.

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ODAYSKI11 3/30/2012 6:59AM

    I agree that that is hilarious and I also don't get it! emoticon

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VYVIENN 3/30/2012 3:06AM

    Heehee... um... heeheehee... emoticon

Personally, I haven't been on a (real) bike in almost 15 years, and I don't believe in that whole once-you-know-you-know hoopla... also, I hate it when my butt falls asleep.

Otherwise... have I said heehee yet?!

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RETRACING-STEPS 3/30/2012 2:08AM

    Woah. I never have to use the bathroom, so I cannot imagine. And there's no such thing as TMI!

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INIT2LIVEIT 3/30/2012 1:58AM

    ROFLOL, I don;t get it, but I cracked up anyway (Bell?)

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GETSTRONGRRR 3/29/2012 10:32PM

    Note to self.....don't ever take a spin class with you!
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HOPEFULHIPPO 3/29/2012 10:15PM

    WHAT?! LOL

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Phe Phi Pho

Wednesday, March 28, 2012

This week I am in Houston for the World Petrochemicals Conference and visiting two of my new (to me) raw materials suppliers. As of January I took over responsibility for my company's North American raw material purchasing, a commodity I know nothing about. So I am down here to learn and rejoin the ranks of Road Warriors.

My SP friend GETSTRONGRR has talked about number of times about the Vietnamese dish pho, a noodle soup to which one can add beef, chicken, shrimp, etc. He has made it sound extremely good.

Alas, where I live there are no Vietnamese restaurants so I have despaired of trying this tasty new dish.

So back to Houston. This is a major city, I am somewhere that looks like a downtown with lots of big buildings and sports centers, surely, I thought, there will be every type of imaginable cuisine. Finally I shall try this magical pho.

Apparently no one in this area eats anything but uber expensive steak after approximately 4 pm though because there are NO visible open restaurants within walking distance of the hotel (other than Benihana's, Morton's Steak House, etc.). The places I saw were all closed for dinner. On my wanderings I did come across a place called Bouray's which is a combination Mexican-Vietnamese place (I don't quite understand that particular combination but whatever). It is only open from 11-2 on weekdays. emoticon

How that is possible I don't know, but those are the posted hours and they were closed when I went by Monday evening.

So today I skipped the conference lunch and went for a brisk 10 minute walk to order myself a bowl of pho. Not quite realizing just how big of a bowl this would be I also got a shrimp spring roll with some funky looking thick brown sauce. Not a fan of the brown sauce, it was kind of sweet and I like sweet in fruits and desserts, not in real food. The spring roll was kind of bland by itself - note this was not a fried spring roll, it was fresh and wrapped in something clear. I am drawing a blank on just what it was wrapped in, kind of like a seaweed wrap on sushi only it was clear.

Then came the pho, in a bowl larger than my head. I got the chicken kind since they did not offer shrimp as a pho option. Into the bowl went the plate of cilantro and bean sprouts and I was ready for my first taste.

I think I should not have put in so much cilantro. It looked like miso with rice noodles and bean sprouts and had a taste I wasn't expecting. Kind of salty, kind of...something else. Maybe a little sweetish. Not a bad spit it out fast kind of taste, not unpleasant, just...different. And not enough to stop me from finishing the bowl. emoticon

Overall it was pretty good, although I'm not in love with whatever that other taste was. I am thinking it was the cilantro, there was quite a lot of it. So I shall give it another shot another time (without so much cilantro) and see if it will grow on me. The first time I tried wasabi on my sushi I didn't much like it (because my lunch companions did not warn me what it was and would do) but now I add extra. And I shall someday try some of the other dishes as well, although I think if I go back tomorrow I will probably try the Mexican side of the menu. A fresh shrimp burrito with hot salsa sounds yummy. emoticon

  
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CK-DUBYA 3/29/2012 6:02PM

    I work with a gal from Vietnam. She has made us pho a couple of times and it is delicious. She didn't serve it with any cilantro. That must be the Mexican half of the restaurant. I love spicy foods so I dump in a good amount of chile sauce. I think the bowl size must be pretty standard. I couldn't believe how much food she served us! Did the restaurant give you chopsticks? I couldn't believe that she expected us to eat soup with chopsticks and a flat bottomed spoon :). She was a master of it and just laughed at the rest of us.

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HOPEFULHIPPO 3/29/2012 10:02AM

    It was def the cilantro. Too much can overpower a dish :o)

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MCJULIEO 3/28/2012 10:04PM

    OK, the conference is in downtown Houston (Hilton Americas, right?) right next to the Convention Center? The old China town of Houston is very near there - ask your hotel concierge, maybe not such a good place to be out after dark on foot... but the newer Vietnamese part of town is SW of there, towards Sharpstown, south about 8 miles on Hwy59. I grew up out that way, towards Memorial, and the Asian markets are wonderful out there...

I wish I could drop everything and join you in Houston, FFK! Would love to show you the sights... isn't it funny that Houston has a Major Thoroughfare called "Buffalo Speedway"?

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SAFARIBABE 3/28/2012 9:56PM

    I'm no expert on Vietnamese food so I was thinking the brown sauce might be a re-fried bean derivative -- it being a Mexican/Vietnamese restaurant and all! LOL HTH do they stay in business only being open 3 hours a day? What is it a city law that all non-steak places must close at 2PM to make way for the cows coming in for the slaughter! LOL Glad you enjoyed your Pho! Have a great night!

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NINJA_SMOO 3/28/2012 6:10PM

  Perhaps I'm being overly stereotypical, but doesn't steakhouses everywhere sound very... Texan? I guess such limited food choices aren't really what you'd expect for a major metropolis but still... :P

The clear stuff was actually the same as the covering in the fried ones except it wasn't, well, fried. It's a sort of rice paper thing. You can actually find them in super markets, in the Asian specialty section, if you wanted to try your hand at making spring rolls at home. I bought some of these rice sheets a while ago but I just haven't gotten around to trying them yet. Maybe tonight!

At least, here you can find them, but there is a fairly high Asian-to-everyone-else ratio here so it makes sense that we have lots of Asian food options. Might be that you won't be able to find it when you're home.

MMmmmmm... now you've got me thinking how long it's been since I've been for Vietnamese food. Might be about time!

I'm having a major mental block trying to remember what that sauce is called right now. Sorry! I had hoped to shed some light on it for you.

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CODEMAULER 3/28/2012 6:02PM

    Spring rolls and pho are among my favorite foods. I add a bit of rice vinegar to the roll dipping sauce to 'sour' it up a bit.

C'mon out to the Twin Cities anytime you want Vietnamese food. We've got tons of great choices out here!

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GETSTRONGRRR 3/28/2012 5:44PM

    Ahh, well done grasshopper! Cilantro is good, basil is better. I like to spritz in a little of the spicy red sriracha sauce for a nice hot chile taste.

The vietnamese spring roll wrappers are made from rice and the fillings can vary. Bottom line is they're about 150 calories a pair. The sauce is a vietnamese staple....I mostly like the crushed peanuts it contains.

Pho for me is all about the broth.....it's filling & tasty and the whole damn bowl (yes, as big as your head) is less than 500 calories.....noodles included

try getting the Yelp app (or TripAdvisor) for your android phone.....they can usually help you find good eateries within a few miles of your current location.

And yes, i do have trust issues with airlines....and I'm very proud of those trust issues....they save my skin on a regular basis!

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ILOVEMALI 3/28/2012 4:38PM

  I think that you need to try the pho in my hometown! It's WAY better than you've described! LOL! Enjoy your shrimp burrito -- I imagine that Texas has great Mexican food! xoxo Deb

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Breadwinners

Monday, March 26, 2012

The headline on Time magazine right now is that women are overtaking men as the country's breadwinners. According to the article in 40% of households women are the primary breadwinners, earning more than the men.

I am one of the 40%, even though I am not married currently. I fully support myself and my two children without alimony or child support from the ex. While I was married I gradually caught up to my ex's wages and then surpassed him. It was one source (of myriad) contention; he was not able to handle the fact that I earned more than him, although he was happy to let me pay all the bills so he could use his $ for whatever. For my part (and I am generally pretty good about being objective) I do not believe I ever made an issue of who made more or threw it up in his face; it honestly doesn't matter to me who would be the primary breadwinner. More important is that it would be an equal partnership, where both people contribute what they have and can do, equality being defined by effort and involvement and not by a numbers game.

But I find that a number of men in my acquaintance of various ages are intimidated by a woman who earns as much or more, and even some women who feel that monetary support of the family is the man's "job". I'm not saying that viewpoint is wrong, as long as it works for both people in the relationship. For myself I just cannot conceive of being wholly dependent upon someone else.

For curiosity's sake, how do you feel about this situation? Are you, or would you be, comfortable if your wife made more money than you? Or, women, would you be comfortable earning more than your husband?

  
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TRI_BABE 3/28/2012 4:03PM

    When I used to be a computer engineer moving toward management, I did not think I felt comfortable if I made more. I don't know maybe I still wouldn't.

Then I changed careers and moved into journalism and then the field opened WAY up, LOL, as far as that was concerned.

My last boyfriend, though, I made more money than him, and yeah it was kind of weird. I didn't like how we were limited on things we could do or if not I would have to pay. I wasn't even making THAT much money.

Then again, who knows WHAT he was spending his money on... that's part of why he is now my ex!

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GETSTRONGRRR 3/28/2012 12:43AM

    Interesting....

SWMBO worked for the first few years of our marriage. Then #2 son was diagnosed with some pretty hefty special needs requirements and we decided it was best if she transitioned over to the stay at home mom role, especially since my job requires me to be gone so much.

I do pretty good for all of us and we've got some pretty good long term plans.....

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CATS_MEOW_0911 3/27/2012 12:25AM

    I have never been married, but I earn quite a bit more than my boyfriend. It does not seem to be an issue. He seems to appreciate my self-sufficiency as a single homeowner. I don't think it should matter who earns more, as long as the overall household responsibilities are split however it works best for that household.

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RETRACING-STEPS 3/26/2012 7:49PM

    Someone who would be intimidated about the swapping of a cliche gender role isn't someone I would ever want to be with. My husband is working now while I am not, because I'm finishing up school. I'll be done before him, and once I'm done I'll go straight to working, and if he needs to focus on school he can stop working. We do whatever works for us. We've talked about it before and how absurd it is that people would be threatened by a woman making more. Terribly sexist and old fashioned. It shows a level of disrespect to be so jealous of someone being 'better' at something than you. You shouldn't be bitter about your spouse's success, as long as there is no cost to the relationship.

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REBECCATKD 3/26/2012 6:56PM

    I am also one of the 40%; my husband just resigned in January after 19 years in the sales industry. He's taking some time as a stay-at-home dad while I teach 8th grade. We both love it! He get time with the kids that he's missed out on, and I come home to a clean kitchen and completed grocery shopping.

My mom always said, "I don't care what you and your sister decide to do as a job as long as you can support yourself. I don't want you to have to get locked into a relationship because you need the man's money." Hear, hear!

Way to be the role model of a financially independent woman!
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DRAGONCHILDE 3/26/2012 3:45PM

    I'm the primary breadwinner in my family. In fact.. I'm the sole breadwinner. My husband's a stay at home dad... and I work from home. He has chronic health issues, so it works for us. He's way better at it than I am. I think he really misses working, and would prefer it, but we're coping with the hand we've been dealt.

I used to be a SAHM, but after he started getting sick, I went back to work.

He isn't threatened by me; as a matter of fact, we take great pains to make sure that he has control of as much as possible to help offset the fact I make the money and manage the finances. He doesn't mind that part... he sucks at handling money. For example... he's always in control in the bedroom. ;)

He doesn't mind that at **all**

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DOODIE59 3/26/2012 3:38PM

    That is one of my -- well, it is my ONLY -- regret, but it is a big one: That when our first child was small, we both agreed that I would stay home with our children. At the time, my husband's future looked golden and I was underpaid. Now, I have no marketable skills and when you add in the factors that I am in my 50s and overweight, the odds are not good that I could get anything other than a minimum wage p/t job working the shifts no one else wants.

If I could do one thing differently, I would have kept working in the field either through time-sharing or by going freelance. (I was an editor). The two-pronged argument for doing that being that editing paid enough p/t to make a difference in a household's finances, and second, (and more important) that I would have been continually upgrading and keeping my skills current. My advice would be to tell young people to always keep their feet in the door:) Also, there is not much support for stay at home parents, so it is very easy to lose your sense of self and worth. Those two characteristics are very hard to get back once they've gone:)

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to post my thoughts on this subject.
Deirdre




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KJDOESLIFE 3/26/2012 2:30PM

    I've made more than my BF for the 6 years we've been together. He stands a chance this year to pass me - if he doesn't this year, he will pretty shortly! He doesn't care (and calls me his "sugar momma" - jokingly, of course) and I might pout a little when I get surpassed, but it benefits both of us (planning on getting married), so does it really matter who it comes from? Men may get mad if they feel like their time has less value than a woman's.

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LPETRO119 3/26/2012 11:54AM

    My hubby and I have flip-flopped over the years with which one of us were the one with the bigger paycheck. Now we earn almost exactly the same amount. We never made a big deal about it, as we both understood we both had good earning potential. When I was the one who brought home the bigger check, seemed like OTHERS who found out made a bigger deal of it, though.

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KKINNEA 3/26/2012 11:45AM

    I'm comfortable with it up to the point where spouse doesn't save any money because he's trying to cover equally. I think we'll need to re-evaluate again.

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NINJA_SMOO 3/26/2012 10:46AM

  Currently, I make quite a bit more than my boyfriend. I don't think anything about it - like you said, so long as we're both contributing what we can the actual amounts aren't especially important - to me. I know it bothers him sometimes that I am the primary breadwinner, but I just tell him the same thing - contribute what you can.

At the same time, his career has much more potential for growth. Without further training that I fund myself, I'm going to hit a ceiling fairly soon. He can progress way further through on-the-job training that is covered by his employer. Not to mention, kid(s) will happen within the next ... less than 10 years for us, and when that point comes, I don't want to be working full-time and my current occupation isn't a position I can keep on a part-time basis.

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CODEMAULER 3/26/2012 8:54AM

    My husband has been a full-time student for quite a while, so any 'bread' I'm making is more than he is contributing (in fact, he COSTS me, LOL!). Even when he re-joins the work force, it's likely that I will out-earn him, at least for a while. He is fine with it, but a lot of his friends give him grief about it.

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WE_PA_FIT 3/26/2012 8:47AM

    excellent points russell38! It usually is deeper than the 'apparent' issue, i.e. money.

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WE_PA_FIT 3/26/2012 8:42AM

    I too earn more than him, and like you- I'm kind of glad that I do. Gives me independence. Sure I wouldn't mind extra help so I can live more comfortably. And he does help out. But knowing that I can take care of things on my own, by myself gives me relief and makes me feel proud. especially after bouncing back from a previous divorce on my own, I'm really protective of finances and my 'things'. No one can do it like we can!!!! and on his part-- yes, the fact that I earn more, makes him very insecure. And like you I never make it an issue yet he still let's it affect him, which ultimately affect us.


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RUSSELL_40 3/26/2012 8:37AM

    I think if you are making more money, it is because you have more marketable skills. Especially if you are a woman. So if I had a wife that made more, I would be proud that she was good at her job. Maybe guys get mad because they realize they aren't the smart one in the relationship?

Some might wonder why you would want a spouse that couldn't help with the bills. I wonder why you would want someone who lacks skill at their job. People who excel at what they do have more confidence. Maybe men don't like the confidence.. don't want women gettin' uppity! Third, if you marry someone who makes way less than you, who is not good at their job, and lacks confidence, could it be because he/she is below you in the brains dept? You have to actually talk to this person for years to come. Nothing worse than trying to converse with stupid people.

I think that besides the money issue, there are other issues the men really care about.. all of them part of their real goal, a wife who is inferior. Sounds like a dependent to me..lol.

I do think that it would be difficult to maintain a relationship if the pay gap was large because of these reasons.. whether the man or the woman made more( if they both worked full time ). I don't think it should matter who earns more, but a lawyer, and a 7-11 cashier probably won't be a good match. One would either feel inferior OR superior.

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REDSHOES2011 3/26/2012 8:20AM

    I also earn more then my deceased husband and present boyfriend.. My present boyfriend is also a cheap skate- he can't comprehend my share of money keeps the roof over his head.. I only work part time but I earn more then him, because of the job I have- I work as a free lance resthome helper and with this job comes a cart load of stress..
He can't comprehend cars don't say ouch- my clients moan if I am late, complain if forgotten and this makes me a perfectionist to avoid my boss getting pissed off..
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LRK4CHRIST 3/26/2012 8:02AM

    WOW! Good information. Its just the truth anyhow.

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