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Saturday, August 29, 2009

Does "stubborn" show up on the human genome, mom?

Little ditties:
I thought it would be interesting to redo my allergy test for comparison to the one done around the time of my diagnosis three years ago (+/-). Will I respond to the same foods? Results in two weeks or so.
One of the first books I read after my CD diagnosis was Trace Your Genes to Health by Chris Reading, MD . One of the most disconcerting things I remember was that it took three generations to repair your DNA with environmental change. I already birthed the Child, and she’s a lost soul at this point in her evolutionary development regarding “environmental” change. I was likely undiagnosed hypothyroid and celiac at the time of her birth so she was born with some dietary deficits; and trying to undo my (and therefore her) old SAD life at this point is a slow process as she’s a teenager hell bent on doing things her own way. And that’s okay, as I’m still her role model and she KNOWS what to do. I see gleams of hope now and then, but really, I’m not holding my breath. I sound like a Debbie- downer, but that’s where I am. I think it's because of this:


My DM finished her fourth round of chemo last week and has already seen an orthopedic surgeon about repairing the hip that keeps coming out of the socket. Thankfully, she’s not returning to the doctor who has twice NOT helped her. The bad news in her lung cancer progress is that after I left, she started smoking again I recently found out. GASP – the horror, right? I’m mortified beyond words, and find myself having to emotionally distance myself from her when she might need me most. I’ve been angry about her smoking my entire life, and where has that gotten me? Angry? Not anymore. I’ve dusted off and mustered up my Big Girl Panties and have found Grace (…again). I sent her shelf-stable probiotics (as opposed to refrigerated because she lives in Vegas and it’s still 110*), and told her how many pills to take and she refused, saying it’s too many. Lordy. Where’re my Grace panties? I’ve misplaced them. LOL.

Grace panties are very eloquent.

As opposed to my reg'lar bloomers.


You know what I wanted for Christmas last year? A DNA test kit (didn’t get it). When started, I signed up, but at that time the test was $1k. Have I already blogged about this? Déjà vu – it has been on my mind while taking my walks -lol. Last Christmas the test kit was on “sale” 3 kits/$1000 or 1/$399. I couldn’t get anyone in the family to sign up with me (surprise surprise). The sale is over, but the single test is still $399 (fingers are crossed for a sale again this holiday).

This week I caught Drs. Oz and Roizen discuss with one of the founders of Dr. Oz’s DNA test results. Mentioned quite a lot was celiac disease as one of her friends has the disease. 23andme has a study and they need participants (you still pay, but they have a $99 test as well):
. I’m going to put this on my Christmas list again this year. Check the list for a disease process (ironically many w/ties to celiac), and sign up if you’re interested, too. Or check out their blog link: The Spittoon (how clever).

Misc: Did you know that we share 50% matching DNA to a banana? www.thingsyoudontneedtoknow.c

Oh, and have you had your probiotics today?

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CLIMBNRUN 9/9/2009 10:16AM

  You are absolutely hilarious Dot! Thanks for one laugh after another!!

I'm sorry about your Mom - stubornness really is a toughie. If you ever find something that works, I'd love to hear about it since my father had quit smoking until we went to Spain this year where everyone lights up. It's such a hard thing to see someone go through, when they see it's health impact (in your Mom's case, the worst!) and yet just can't abstain. I sort of want to find that "lung" ashtray above for Christmas for my father....


Sending you my biggest wishes.

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MORTICIAADDAMS 8/29/2009 11:41PM

    Who else would be proud of their banana heritage and want DNA tests for gifts? ROFLMBO!!

I totally understand about your mom. I'm a nurse but do you think my mom would listen to me or take my advice???? Noooooooooooooo!

Probiotics today? yes. Banana? no.

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AINTSKEERD 8/29/2009 11:25AM

    Haha, I was having them while reading this blog! No wonder I always tell the boys that a banana is the 'perfect' quick meal. emoticon

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FOUCUST 8/29/2009 10:43AM

    Interesting post. I like it.

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MIZZY~C 8/29/2009 10:38AM

    !? How are we kin to a fruit fly? The mud worm does look like a human embryo. Good point!

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MOLLIEMAC 8/29/2009 10:22AM

    LOL, it's nice to know that we are so close to bananas! I have an image of those Grace panties in my mind, hope I'm wrong:)...MJ emoticon emoticon

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FIRSTFERRET 8/29/2009 10:22AM

    LOL - I'm still trying to learn how to teach others to wear the big girl/boy panties without loosing mine! And, my kids confirmed I'm 50% bananas - a looooong time ago.

I'm finally feeling good enough to get back on my bone supplement routine but alas, no I haven't checked into nor have I begun a probiotic routine yet. Bad Ferret.

The nicotine monster is a strong one. I had a lung xray done a few months ago. Mine are so black, it was scary. I am trying, in steps, to slow down and stop. But I want to. That's the trick, you got to want to stop. Even then it is harder than Hades. So, I buy some nasty tasting things to take the pleasure out of it.

Sorry about your ma hon, watched my pa do the same thing. He did things the way he wanted to, right up to the end. At some point I began respecting that.


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JEFFREYC1 8/29/2009 10:21AM

    Nice post!!!

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2CATS2LOVE1 8/29/2009 9:56AM

    What's a probiotic?

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PENCILDANCER 8/29/2009 9:55AM

    Grace Panties??? How come I didn't know about these? Guess that's what I've been missing a few times lately. emoticon Who knew Love Your Neighbor as thyself could be solved so easily!

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HEALTHY4ME 8/29/2009 7:27AM

    HI I so feel your frustration with your mum and her smoking. Lung ca killed mum this june past. and she snmoked till she got in hosp and while she had her mind ( before the ca went to her brain) and was in hosp wanted to go outside to smoke. oh well in the last few years i made my peace and said it has allready done the damage and she isnt going to stop adn they wont operate so let her do it. but is really hard cos i am so anti smoking even as a kid i was. dad is still smoking and we just got word that they ahve seen a spot on his lung. havent found much out yet as he hasnt had ct scan yet.
hugs to you as you deal with all this. I hope you do okay and you can only do what you can do.

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VEGCHUNK 8/29/2009 2:09AM

    I did have them, thanks!

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Silly gluten-free song makes me happy ...

Thursday, July 30, 2009

"Docta! Is there nothin' I can take to relieve my belly ache?!"
(... where was THIS doctor when I needed him/her?!)

wwoooo hooo


I'm very surprised that birth control pills "help" bacterial vaginosis after what I've been reading. Birth control pills ALTER vaginal flora. I notice no mention about natural means to fix this often 'recurring' problem (recurringly 'treated' with ANTI-biotics)? *cough* PROBIOTICS ... & change sugar diet?


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OREAD_1 8/18/2009 2:43AM

    and say Woooo wooooo and then say woo wooooo

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-SHAWN- 8/18/2009 1:43AM

  Brother bought a coconut
He bought it for a dime.
His sister had another
She paid it for a lime.

She put the lime in the coconut
And drank them both up.

Called the doctor, woke him up, and said
"Doctor, ain't there nothing I can take"
I say, "Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?"
I say, "Doctor ain't there nothing I can take"
I say, "Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?"

Now let me get this straight;
You put the lime in the coconut
You drank them both up
You put the lime in the coconut,
You drank them both up
You put the lime in the coconut,
called your doctor, woke him up, and said,

"Doctor, ain't there nothing I can take"
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?"
I say, Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take"
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?"

You put the lime in the coconut, and drink them both down,
You put the lime in the cocount, you're such a silly woman!
Put the lime in the coconut, and drink them both together,
Put the lime in the coconut, and call me in the morning."

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MORTICIAADDAMS 7/30/2009 10:39PM

    I had my probiotics today. LOL.

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TERJEGOLD 7/30/2009 3:56PM

    Nice walk down memory lane. I can't remember when that song first came out. I think I was fairly young.

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Celiac may one day be prevented w/probiotics & I'm not surprised

Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Dr. Fasano - Celiac King :)

Well, another chicken scratch on the side of taking probiotics ala Dr. Fasano! For my family: Dr. Fasano is the Italian doctor who initiated celiac testing and research in the US. Thankfully, yes? YES! :)

Article: "These new prospects for therapy do not mean that CD patients can abandon dietary restrictions anytime soon. Diet could also be used in a new way. Under the leadership of Carlo Catassi, my team at the University of Maryland has begun a long-term clinical study to test whether having infants at high risk eat nothing containing gluten until after their first year can delay the onset of CD or, better yet, prevent it entirely. “High risk,” in this case, means infants possess susceptibility genes and their immediate family has a history of the disorder.

We suspect the approach could work because the immune system matures dramatically in the first 12 months of life and because research on susceptible infants has implied that avoiding gluten during the first year of life might essentially train that developing immune system to tolerate gluten thereafter, as healthy people do, rather than being overstimulated by it. So far we have enrolled more than 700 potentially genetically susceptible infants in this study, and preliminary findings suggest that delaying gluten exposure reduces by fourfold the likelihood that CD will develop. It will be decades, however, until we know for certain whether this strategy can stop the disease from ever occurring.

Given the apparently shared underpinning of autoimmune disorders in general, researchers who investigate those conditions are eager to learn whether some therapeutic strategies for CD might also ease other autoimmune conditions that currently lack good treatments. And with several different approaches in the pipeline to treat CD, we can begin to hope that this disease, which has followed humanity from the dawn of civilization, is facing its last century on earth.

A Clue to Delayed Onset
People with celiac disease are born with a genetic susceptibility to it. So why do some individuals show no evidence of the disorder until late in life? In the past, I would have said that the disease process was probably occurring in early life, just too mildly to cause symptoms. But now it seems that a different answer, having to do with the bacteria that live in the digestive tract, may be more apt.

These microbes, collectively known as the microbiome, may differ from person to person and from one population to another, even varying in the same individual as life progresses. Apparently they can also influence which genes in their hosts are active at any given time. Hence, a person whose immune system has managed to tolerate gluten for many years might suddenly lose tolerance if the microbiome changes in a way that causes formerly quiet susceptibility genes to become active. If this idea is correct, celiac disease might one day be prevented or treated by ingestion of selected helpful microbes, or “probiotics.”

Note: This article was originally printed with the title, "Surprises from Celiac Disease.""
end article.

Re: me: I visited my hematologist for regular check up yesterday. I have a crush on him. lol Doctors are so smart, and I appreciate what they do on many levels. I asked him many questions about mom's treatment, and also questions about cancer: do we have cancer in us at all times?

(While getting my labs drawn previous to the doc visit, the phlebotomist complained about always having to look up the code for the Vitamin D test I usually get (make a sticky!) .. I mentioned having low D is implicated in breast, prostate, colon cancer and melanoma, and he said, "Why doesn't the doc order it then, he's a very thorough guy?!" I said I'd ask. The doc said he didn't know about it. Honest, huh?! I told him about immunity and probiotics and he said the hospital was doing a trial for probiotics preventing C. difficile .. I, of course, read of similar studies in Bacteria for Breakfast.)

Anyway, the phlebotomist said he'd heard from someone in the lab (don't know but someone who "knows" and works in back?) that we have the propensity for cancer in us at all times, too. And the doctor said, "Yes, we have aberrant cells which our immune system attacks." It seems so, "Duh" to me. But what's interesting is my mom's oncologist saying it was a fallacy. Hmmm.

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OREAD_1 8/18/2009 2:49AM

    Thank for the update on this. I am getting my probiotic from an apple juice culture. I haven't looked into the pill ones yet.

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    Actually I tend to think that both of the MD's you consulted were somewhat right. Do we have cancer in us all the time? No. But we are all exposed to carcinogens on a daily basis. Some unknown trigger causes the carcinogens to enter the cells and turn into cancer and multiply.

I have been trying to get in some probiotics every day now.

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DOTSLADY 7/29/2009 2:46PM

    What you said is what I meant to say - in essence, take care of our immunity to keep the aberrant cells in check. Probiotics help us do that (and diet ne: watch food allergies, eat fermented foods, exercise, rest, etc).
andrea, emoticon

Point to remember: 70% of our immunity lies in our gut system - keep it healthy and strong.

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DREAVG 7/29/2009 1:05PM


Interesting info on Celiac. I will pass that on. As for the Cancer in us all the time, that is a half truth. We have aberrant cells all the time. Cancer is those aberrant cells growing out of control over time. For most of us, our bodies dispose of those aberrant cells. Sometimes, for whatever reason, the body can't keep up or doesn't recognized them and the growth is unchecked, growing out of control.


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It's the bacteria silly! Probiotics Info #2

Wednesday, July 22, 2009

Your mother’s bacteria and your birth experience (c-section or va jay jay delivery) set you up for your immunity ... for LIFE. You get mom's hopefully "protective" bacteria (and I guess the bad bacteria, too) during a vaginal delivery. You get more via breastfeeding. If you deliver a baby c-section and can’t/don’t breastfeed, it’s highly recommended to take probiotics. (Actually, you might want to take probiotics regardless considering what I’ve been reading.) Baby GI systems are sterile before birth and they need exposure to healthy bacteria (GO colostrum!) as soon as possible. Related articles: , and this one was interesting describing in essence that babies have a "leaky gut" for their first 4-6 months: (what's interesting is that it's a "vaccination news" site ... thinking of autism of course).

Study re: breastfeeding and asthma: ( ) explains EVERYTHING so well and better than me. Pre- and probiotics help maintain vitamin K levels which promote bone, heart and intestinal health and much more.

I’m recovering nicely with antibiotics from a bladder/kidney infection or “something”, I don’t know what and why. My symptoms were a painful kidney and urinary urgency ONLY. No other pains, rashes, itches, goo, fever, etc thank goodness. The urine lab results came back negative: no presence of white blood cells, negative nitrite test (bacterial growths), negative serum tests. I wonder if it’s because I was drinking a lot of water. I wish I’d asked for them to test for fungal growth (which I can’t imagine, but you never know). The office rep who called me with results said if my problem doesn’t resolve with antibiotics, then I need to schedule a bladder ultrasound. If the bladder doesn’t empty fully, they’ll prescribe some urinary incontinence Rx and that’s it, or I’d need to be checked for physical abnormality. I’m thinking, “Whoa, Nelly! Let’s not get too far ahead …” I think my bladder’s emptying just fine as far as I can tell. So with this experience in mind I read and share info from the book, Probiotic Rescue, regarding vaginal health:

We all have different bacteria present in and on our bodies unique to us based on our history and diet – much like a fingerprint. If a particular probiotic works for one person, it may not for another. Be careful how you wipe because E. coli can be transmitted to the vaginal canal from the bum. Lactobacillus bacteria (good bacteria are “gram-positive” and bad are “gram-negative”) are present in healthy vaginas; it protects against gram-negative bacteria adhering to the walls (this is true for the gut also). Bifidobacterium bifidum, and other bifido species are also prevent in healthy vaginal canals. Good bacteria also move from the bum to the vaginal canal and/or probiotic usage promotes growth. There are probiotic suppositories but it’s not clear they work as well as oral supplements.


Stress, antibiotics, foods w/antibiotics, environmental changes, infections can alter your inner ecosystem. Est 70% of women have had a yeast infection at some point. I am part of those stats as I believe I had an infection after the birth of Dd. I never went to the doctor, and all I knew was to eat yogurt (course, it likely was Yoplait with sugar). My mother said she had one during one of her two pregnancies as well. 90% of Candida live in your mouth and colon. The stomach, sm and lg intestine are hostile to it, so you find it mostly on the skin or vagina. Yeast infection symptoms: burning, itching, redness, swelling, sometimes painful urination, white discharge. “The vagina may increase mucus production and encourage Candida overgrowth as a reaction to contact allergens and circulating food allergens. For example, a milk allergy commonly triggers inflammation and Candida overgrowth in both kids and adults. … There is no way to eliminate ALL yeast from your body.” You can balance it with diet and probiotics can help. Jock itch is yeast overgrowth in men. Sex can transfer yeast. Both infected partners need treatment (antibiotics and probiotics).

When you take antibiotics it wipes out both the good and the bad bacteria, much like when someone has chemo which kill the good and cancerous cells leaving the immune system wiped and vulnerable. The birth control pill also changes the vaginal environment, and is strongly implicated in Candida development.

Helpful probiotic strains: Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus rhamnosus GR-1, and Lactobacillus fermentum RC-14.

Also discussed are Bacterial Vaginosis ( ) and helpful probiotic strains, and urinary tract infections. An infected urethra is called urethritis. Bacteria can move up the urethra and infect the bladder, which is called cystitis, which is concerning. If not treated promptly, the bacteria can travel to the kidneys. A kidney infection is called pyelonephritis. Urinary tract infections include Chlamydia, Mycoplasma, Gardnerella vaginalis and most frequently E. coli. E. coli from feces, Chlamydia and Mycoplasma sexually transmitted (so both partners need treatment). Probiotics which produce hydrogen peroxide reduce risk of urinary tract infections.

Helpful probiotic strains: oral supps Lactobacillus rhamnosus, L. reuteri, and L. casei Shirota and L. crispatus , or vaginal suppositories with L. rhamnosus or L. fermentum.

And yes, this author says DO take probiotics the same time as antibiotics.

I can thank mom for a vaginal delivery, but not breastfeeding me. Mom said back in the early 60s when I was born, women were urged to formula-feed, that it was "better" even! Bottle fed babies are sick more often than breastfed babies according to this article . And, very important: breastfeeding moms are usually deficient in vitamins K and D, and should talk to doc about testing and supplements.

From the article: "The AAP goes on to say that a number of studies now indicate that breast milk may lower babies' risk for sudden infant death syndrome, insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus, Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, lymphoma (cancer), allergic diseases, and other chronic digestive diseases." After the baby formula found tainted with melamine by Chinese manufacturers last year, it makes me wonder what may have been in the formula back in the 60s. Our generation has been pounded with the WRONG food pyramid, and too much manufactured food. It's such a part of our culture, we can't see the forest for the trees. It's the bacteria stup!d!

My Dd can thank me for a C-section and trying to breastfeed best I could for six months - I always wished it were different, but considering I was starved, I will not beat myself up.
emoticon She was, however, always sick with sore throat and repeated ear infections. I can only imagine what little I had to give wasn't enough.

Speaking of which - as I write this I'm listening to Mr. President discuss healthcare reform; this story regarding the choices given to doctors treating a child with repeated sore throats. They can look for allergies or pursue a tonsilectomy. Guess which one wins out? Guess which one I agreed to for my own Dd because I didn't know better? (and "TWO" adenoidectomies!). Inflamed tonsils and adenoids ARE a sign of low immunity from food allergies (I had a tonsilectomy also). I tried telling a neighbor whose grandchildREN were getting tonsilectomies. She knew the parents wouldn't listen: they were doctors and unfortunately, not allergists. Thank you for the validation Mr. President.

FOOD first. Supplements if needed.

Addendum: 8-8-09
This was recently emailed via the celiac listserv from Roy Jamron, a researcher who contributes articles to – fyi):

"Celiac disease is known to be triggered, at least in part, by environmental
factors. These factors can even affect one identical twin and not the other
and seem to have their greatest impact during infancy when gluten is first
introduced to the diet. Gut flora makeup and vitamin D levels are 2 factors
which differ in infants and could affect the development of the immune
system in ways leading to celiac disease. Recent research has shown that
gut Bifidobacterium levels are lower in both treated and untreated celiac
disease patients. Bifidobacterium species have properties which are
beneficial to the immune system such as increasing IL-10 secretion and
decreasing intestinal permeability. But other microbiota species may also
have important effects and benefits to the developing immune system.
Scientists are only beginning to scratch the surface both in cataloging
the microbiota species found in the gut and understanding how
environmental factors, such as antibiotics, affect their makeup and, in
turn, how the makeup of gut microbiota affects human health. A new
article on discusses the current state of this research and
is excellent reading:

Gut Reaction: Environmental Effects on the Human Microbiota
Melissa Lee Phillips
Published on 07/15/2009

It may be years before research fully understands how gut microbiota and
vitamin D deficiency may be involved in triggering celiac disease. Both
vitamin D and probiotic supplements (such as Bifidobacterium infantis) are
cheap, readily available, and generally safe. There is much current
research showing how important vitamin D is for overall health. Your
infant's health is a matter of immediate concern and cannot wait 5 or 10
years for research to confirm whether such supplements can help prevent
celiac disease. It would seem prudent to make use of these supplements
now in both mother and infant during pregnancy, while breast-feeding,
and prior to introducing gluten to your baby. Consult with your
physician about how much is the right dose."

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JEANNELORRAINE 3/27/2010 10:19AM

  I just started taking colostrum and am very excited about what it might do for me. I had not heard about chewable probiotics! I love anything chewable because I am sick of taking pills!

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MOCOLOCO 3/15/2010 12:38AM

    Informative! Thanks!

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STEPHENERS 2/18/2010 12:20PM

  I have noticed myself having problems when I drink alcohol frequently or get off of antibiotics. (With my breath even) Kombucha is great as well as Activia and I even found a chewable acidophilus that's great.

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PEACEFULONE 8/24/2009 2:48AM

    Hi Dots, As always I am rewarded when I visit blogs. Thank you for the very interesting information. I am not up to speed on probiotics and I'll have to look into it more. Love ya, Elaine

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MORTICIAADDAMS 7/25/2009 11:40PM

    Love the blog. Really interesting!!

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-SHAWN- 7/24/2009 12:40AM

  You can throw your apple cores in some distilled water and make your own vinegar... more good bacteria for you!

I have so many SCOBY's (mothers) I have a blogs up in my area saying come get 'um

My daughter (35 years old and a new nurse) was worried about my giving my giving grandboy kefir and kombucha, we took him to his doctor together (the boy needs two adults for a happy trip out) Doctor said: "GREAT! Load 'um up!"
I felt good the doctor a "Primo Stanford Head Child Transplant Surgeon", said yes good idea do it!

Start out slow if you start making your own fermented eats and drinks....

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BACTERIA: Night Soil, Irresponsible Yogurting …and what I'm trying to eat.

Sunday, July 19, 2009

DH has traveled a bit; when he returns he brings with him other-worldly stories, more than I could imagine. When he returned from Jakarta, Indonesia, a few years ago (he actually stayed at the Marriott blown up by terrorists the other day) where the driving is nerve-wracking ( ), what I remember most was learning about night soil as crop fertilizer. Others may know this, but I didn't. And neither did he as he learned the hard way from a nurse after having eaten a salad. More on that later. So fertilizer. What do you think of? Bags of chemicals from the hardware store? I think of an ex-neighbor in VA who had the best flowers in the neighborhood. Her secret was chicken poop compost. There I go writing about poop again. Sorry! I’ve been reading a couple of books about probiotics, so this ties in.

The first, and I’m still reading, is Bacteria for Breakfast, and it is very “in the weeds” with the science behind the whys and how it works. It is VERY compelling info. I’ve taken probiotics since my celiac dx, but not really understood the weeds of the science other than it was positive to keep “good” bacteria in your gut. I read many online articles about the trillions of bacteria residing in our intestines; that we have more bacteria in our intestines (100 trillion) than cells in our body (10 trillion) (the bacteria is considered the “forgotten organ” even), and was convinced since my gut was compromised, taking them was a good idea. My gastroenterologist agreed, citing the only question is if the bacteria are viable. True. I’d read that also. The supplement industry regulates itself so independent testing is hard to come by because of funding (there is where you can join for $45 which helps pay for such research, and I did), unlike the pharmaceutical industry which has to provide test results, and are usually self-funded and also paid for by us, the consumer. The government wants to change supplement regulations I’ve read –it’s all about Codex Alimentarius, but that’s another blog I probably will never get to. Read wiki about Codex because you should know about it: . Codex is also involved in determining a worldwide definition of what # or parts per million (ppm) is acceptable for gluten-free manufactured food.

Okay, so the bacteria must be alive to work: to be alive most brands of probiotic supplements must be refrigerated in transit, and then refrigerated at the store (this ups the cost, but hopefully and usually you get what you pay for. Remember: pay now or pay later with poor health). On top of viability, you still need to try them because everyone’s health and needs vary: you may need differing strains for your particular issues. There are over 500 strains. Most work symbiotically. When I ran out of probiotics and took some old acidophilus pills, was it coincidence that I caught my first cold in three + years?

After I started taking them, I noticed blossoming ads for probiotics on dairy products, most notably Activia yogurt commercials (which has too much sugar to eat daily). Sugars feed bad bacteria, so what’s the point of zeroing out the bacterial scorecard?

For example: Ingredients in strawberry Activia: CULTURED GRADE A REDUCED FAT MILK, STRAWBERRY (only 1?), FRUCTOSE SYRUP, SUGAR, CONTAINS LESS THAN 1% OF FRUCTOSE, WHEY PROTEIN CONTENTRATE, CORN STARCH, MODIFIED CORN STARCH, KOSHER GELATIN, NATURAL FLAVOR, CARMINE (FOR COLOR), SODIUM CITRATE, MALIC ACID. – d’ya notice “fructose syrup” rather than “HFCS”? “Plain” “sugar” is also popping up a lot on labels.

If you’re gonna do Dannon, check out the nutrient breakdown of the following:
4oz ACTIVIA strawberry: 110 cals, 19g carb, 17g sugar, 5g protein.
4oz ACTIVIA plain: 85 cals, 10g carb, 8.5g sugar, 5.5g protein.
4oz ALL NATURAL regular plain: 80 cals, 4g fat, 6g carb, 6g sugar, 4.5g protein*
4oz ALL NATURAL lowfat plain: 67 cals, 2g fat, 8g carb, 8g sugar, 6g protein
4oz ALL NATURAL nonfat plain: 50 cals, 0g fat, 8g carb, 8g sugar, 6g protein

(Notice that the flavored yogurt has almost double the amount of carbs/sugars for 4oz compared to plain. *When in a pickle for what to eat while traveling, I chose the All Natural regular plain because it has less carbs/sugar, and the fat keeps me satiated longer.)

The probiotic available in the All Natural line is l. acidophilus only, and you don’t know how much because they don’t advertise the amount. If you notice probiotic pills, they'll advertise the strains and the number of each strain. The draw for the Activia is their “branded” strain of “bifidus regularis”, or scientifically named Bifidobacterium animalis DN-173 010. Per Dannon’s FAQs, “This culture was specifically selected because of its ability to survive passage through the digestive system and reach the large intestine,” which might be helpful for someone with IBS-D. However, this strain is not so good for IBS-C or constipation, and that fact is unclear in their commercial. Because of the “delicate” subject matter, we only know it helps with “irregularity.” You’ve seen Jamie Lee Curtis on the green couch commercials, right?
( ) Here's a VERY appropriate and funny "commercial" on yogurt commercials directed at women, here: . You wouldn’t know this unless you did your homework. My mother, for instance, is case in point. (See previous entry and their fridge photo.) FYI gluten-free-ers, Dannon doesn’t certify their yogurt products gluten-free, but in a PINCH while traveling, I tried the Dannon All Natural Plain without reactions.

Here's a look at a few Greek yogurts I've tried by comparison to Dannon:

Fage (Fa-yeh) (are building a new $85mil facility in upstate NY)
4oz. 0% fat: 30 cals, 0g fat, 2.25g carb & sugar, 5g protein
4oz. 2% fat: 35 cals, 1.125g fat, 2.25g carb & sugar, 5g protein
4oz. 5% fat: 40 cals, 2.25g fat, 3g carb & sugar, 3.125g protein
4oz. Classic Whole Fat: 75cals, 5.75g fat, 1.75g carb & sugar, 3.75g protein
(Probiotic strains: S. Thermophilus and L. Bulgaricus)

Oikos (Stonyfield) (dry lingering tongue taste ... but for a change, I'll eat it. $1.56/5.3oz)
4oz. 0% fat: 65 cals, 0g fat, 4.5g carb & sugar, 11g protein
(Probiotic strains: contains five live and active cultures including L. Acidophilus, Bifidus, and L. Casei.)

Trader Joe's (best taste & nutrition for the $ in my book, but I can't get it where I live)
4oz 0% fat: 60 cals, 0g fat, 3.5g carb, 3g sugar, 11g protein
4oz Full fat: 130cals, 9g fat, 7g carb, 4.5g sugar, 4.5g protein
(Probiotic strains: Bifidus, L. Acidophilus, L. Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus)

I eat all of them and try to adjust the fat for my diet for the day. I believe it's good to rotate your probiotic strains with food and with supplements.

Anyway, so the point is to populate the gut with good bacteria to aid against ongoing threats from bad bacteria. Bad bacteria: food pathogens for one. We want our inner ecosystem to be balanced (with good outweighing the bad a bit), too, so you don’t want to go crazy with probiotics (meaning: “for” “life” as opposed to antibiotics, which is self-explanatory). Too much of a good thing = diarrhea, and too much of a bad thing = diarrhea, and either mean getting rid of your nutrients before they’ve had a chance to do their thing.

To find out if you have a leaky gut or small intestinal permeability, ask for a Lactulose/Mannitol test ( ). To help a miserable gut, consider taking probiotics in addition to eating probiotic energizing foods on a regular basis:

Good bacteria/gut promoting foods: fermented foods such as cabbage/sauerkraut (find one w/no sugars or make your own. Store-bought has no live bacteria because it's pasteurized), kimchi, vegetables, esp green ones are good pre-biotics which feed the probiotics (eat your veggies!), plain cow, goat or sheep yogurt, kefir, gf grains, non-sweet fruit like cranberries, blueberries, lingonberries, aloe, olives (black and green, in glass-no sulfites), fish, natto or fermented soy (not commercial soy products) ( ), miso, kombucha tea ( ), are examples. In fact, if you want to know more about fermentation, you can check out the Nourishing Traditions Team here at SP: or link from my SP page.

Bad bacteria/gut foods: SUGAR including cookies, cakes, candy, doughnuts, processed or “dead” foods, fruit juice; gluten grains (think about how cows get bloated eating grains not suitable for them, why not us? ), and depending on your symptoms, foods which encourage Candida albicans.

Dr. Mercola article re: vitamin K, natto, gut health: .

A load of cr*p!
BAD bacteria smells bad. Good bacteria not so much. I have to wonder about some people in the public stalls sometimes (and that includes me a year pre-CD dx). I can imagine what they’re eating: dead food which doesn’t promote healthy bacteria. And that brings us back to night soil. Night soil is ‘people’ poop crop fertilizer. That was a new one on me. Talk about what goes around comes around. Using night soil is common in rural areas in Asian countries, and India, that I know of (large populations, low sanitary infrastructure). It’s one way for them to use their resources, and another reason why fermented foods help their GI systems cope. I haven’t studied India’s diet or fermented foods. A little story about night soil here: . I've read that it’s okay to use poop for fertilizer as long as it doesn’t contain meat, because of parasites. For example, the Chinese eat meat, and its one reason they always cook their vegetables. Too bad DH didn’t know this when he went to Indonesia, right? (Another parasite story, I want to share: DH has an acquaintance who is suffering/losing too much weight and almost dying from a parasite picked up through his bare feet from the hotel room floor in So. America, too, so you’re damned if you do or don’t sometimes. I wonder how much he knows about gut health. He feels best he says subsisting on Wheat-Thins, so what do I know?)

Garden manure info:
Bat guano esp sought after for gardening:
Very awesome “Fast Draw” about probiotics from CBS Sunday News a while back. I wanted to share it for my blog entry about Swine Flu, but it hadn’t been posted, and now it’s there:
Disease and Nightsoil Men in England:
China and night soil:
Wiki and night soil: best part: a higher price was paid for wealthy people's poop because they ate better! This is not so far off the mark is it?
More on this later. I’m loving this subject!

Re: me. If I could adjust my font, it’d be the smallest one because I’m bummed I’ve gained 10 big ole pounds back. When Buddy got hurt I had to carry him home from down the street and it about killed me. He weighed 54 lbs. and I'd lost about that. It was AWFULLY heavy! So I've added back onto my body that 10 pound bag of sugar and it feels like 20. ARGH! I didn’t adjust my ticker til last week because my 'hoping' I’d magically self-correct was just not happenin’. How? Why? Wha?

It started with well-intentioned beautiful gf cookies ( ) from my SIL for my bday in April. I snowballed from there w/mom’s lung cancer diagnosis to just not caring much (right before second chemo treatment her hair started falling out. Dad’s wherewithall is come and go, so it’s like she has to take care of him during this time she should rest. She’s so tired, I wish I could be there). I should party once in a while, right? Well, if SIL had sent one cookie, great, but there were a dozen SOFT gf cookies. Dang sugar cocaine! They were loaded with carbs – one cookie (okay, it's oversized) had 60 outrageous grams or about half what I eat in a day. I gave some away, I froze some, but eventually they were eaten + I ate a lot of other stuff not as green as I'd have liked. I wasn’t exercising as my walking partner was MIA, and my "quiet" route was disturbed. You put that together and you get 10 pounds. I’m back on the wagon. ‘Nuff said.

I've had some kind of UTI or kidney infection the last week (lab results due Monday). My bladder didn't hurt, however, my urgency was great, and my left kidney felt as though it were in a vise-grip. I couldn't bend for the pain. I don't like knowing where my kidneys are! Target fills Rx's with generic unless you specify otherwise and I didn't think to mention it. I knew the name brand was gf, but not the generic, so they tried doing homework. The company wouldn't commit to saying it was gf because of outside suppliers. This is typical. I then went to Walgreens, who didn't have the name brand. So I went to CVS. They say they can get it the next day. I go the next day after another loong night, and it's a 'different' generic brand! We do some checking and it's gf (however, it also has way more 'generic' fillers than Target's generic, which I don't appreciate). At this point, I don't care, give them to me! I've been taking about 8 million probiotic daily. This didn't help prevent the infection (?) as I'd read it might - though I likely wasn't taking enough. The CVS pharm rep said it'd take three days for the antibiotics to work and make me feel better. Simutaneously, I upped my probiotic to a stronger brand w/50 million bacteria, taking two daily. There was a one time poop 'adjustment', but everything has been smooth sailing since. The antibiotic worked in one day: less pain so I can at least bend. The pain is totally gone in three. Whatever is working, I don't care and I'm very very grateful. I hope it was symbiotic. :)

(I have to admit I'm not sure and I haven't read if you're to take probiotics WHILE taking antibiotics or after and thereafter. You'd think the antibiotics would kill off what you're taking, or maybe if you take way more than they can kill, you're better off. I'll have to read some more, cause I've read differing opinions online.)

EDIT: I've since read to take them 12 hrs apart. If you take the antibiotic in the morning at 6am, take the probiotic at 6 pm.

  Member Comments About This Blog Post:

MRSDOLL1 5/30/2010 3:55PM

    Thank you for your helpful information and your mother is in my prayers. I am curious if you have heard of the Gershon therapy?

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PENCILDANCER 7/30/2009 2:03PM

    wow, I had never heard of night-soil and from now on I'm wearing socks in my hotel room.

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-SHAWN- 7/24/2009 12:23AM

  ONG it's a

You need some live kefir grains, I have kefir everyday and kombucha too...

After a round of antibiotics you need to replenish your gut with the good bacteria that was killed along with the bad....

My little grandson who is post transplant and has no immune system, takes pro-biotics after every round of antibiotics which is often.

Night Soil... That's a new one on me too!
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l have to read your next chapter....

Great Blog!

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MORTICIAADDAMS 7/20/2009 10:44PM

    Interesting blog.

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