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Ever Wonder if You Could Kill What You Eat?

Sunday, August 30, 2009

This article caught my eye because I have asked myself this question and I know my answer: "No way!"

However that doesn't mean I can't recognize and feel some twinges regarding the hypocracy of eating meat but not being able to kill animals to support my habit. Which always has me thinking about making a vegetarian switch at some point.

This is a VERY interesting article which will get you thinking about your approach to the food you consume.

Ever Wonder if You Could Kill What You Eat? We Did the Other Night

www.alternet.org/story/142295/

"Were we traumatized? Did we feel sorry for the chicken? Are we dreading this weekend, where we'll have to kill 150 more? Here's why not."

  
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SOULCOLLAGESUE 9/10/2009 7:33PM

    When I was a little kid, maybe around 6, I remember my mom making my lunch. She was at the stove, her back to me, while I dug into my lunch. When I reached the hamburger patty, something made me hesitate. It's a voice I later learned to recognize as my higher power, so to speak, or God. I asked her what it was made from, and I could tell she was avoiding answering me. So, I asked outright if it was made from an animal. That was the beginning of the end of any form of meat for me, given my innate resonance with animals. Now, I gave my own daughter the freedom to eat what she wants, and she eats meat. She told me once, though, that if she had to be the one to kill, she wouldn't. My husband also eats meat, although even when I met him, he never cooked it at home. I appreciate that you posted this.

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ZIRCADIA 8/31/2009 1:23PM

    I don't want to kill what I eat, but it doesn't bother me that someone else does it.

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WOLFKITTY 8/31/2009 11:20AM

    I don't know. I'd like to say that I COULD kill what I eat. I've certainly shot my fair share of various handguns and rifles. I think that killing for eating is more noble than simply for sport. I've gone fishing as a child and didn't have any problem with catching the fish that would be killed.

Even if I couldn't do it, I wouldn't feel guilty for eating animals that others have killed for me (grocery store packaged foods). I also wouldn't be able to be a miner for the metals and minerals that are used to build the circuitry and make up the components on my laptop. I don't feel guilty using it. :)

And killing an animal is the same as killing a plant in my book. As a child I read "The Secret Life of Plants". I believe that both animals and plants have emotions. At the very least they share the essence of life. How is farming either of them very different? Just because it's more difficult to communicate with a plant doesn't mean that it's life is less valuable.

So eat your meat in good health!
emoticon Cheers!

Jocelyn

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ANGELTIMES3 8/30/2009 7:24AM

    Having been raised in the country and on farms - yes I can. But, that said, when we hunt or raise an animal to butcher we know how, why and when. It is truly and enlightening experience and makes you far less wasteful of things. Good question!!

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SUZIAND 8/30/2009 1:40AM

    I've often thought about this very discussion. Much to my dismay....it makes me realize I'm a hypocrite. I could never, ever kill an animal -- I'm even starting to have trouble killing insects and stuff. But here's the thing... I've tried giving up meat and I just can't do it. /sighs.

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MSPUDGE 8/30/2009 1:14AM

  Back in the day, the 70's, when starving in the mountains [never mind how we got there] I was the one of 5 of us who drew a bead on the deer and downed him. About 300 yards and my first rifle shot. A natural, I guess. I also helped hang him, and I was the one who gutted him. I did not butcher him, that was another person's project, but we ate that buck for over a month. And that is all we had to eat. So I have to say, been there, done that. And under the same circumstances I would do it again in a minute. At grocery stores, I only buy non-hormonal yadda yadda good stuff, and eat meat rarely. But hells bells, in a pinch, that's what the animals are there for. I think even the Bible says so.... I cannot apologize more than that. My dau is 41 and a vegetarian since just about after the deer :)

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4A-HEALTHY-BMI 8/30/2009 12:14AM

    I have wondered it, but ever since getting my hunting license about 10 years ago when I moved to NY, I know the answer.

And before I actually pulled the trigger on that first button buck, I really wasn't sure if I would do it, 'cuz I was raised in the SF Bay Area which is urban and liberal.

In the end I decided that if I *didn't* have it in me to kill and dress and butcher my own meat then I didn't have any business paying other people to do it for me, and I should become vegetarian.

I'm still an omnivore.
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MAR-TISH-A 8/30/2009 12:05AM

    Of course, we cut vegetables off the stems or pick the fruit-frequently killing the plant!

Oh, when will the insanity stop!

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Picking Up the Pace!

Thursday, August 27, 2009

I'm feeling inspired by my (at LAST) pound loss this past week and am making a more concerted effort to vary my speed while on the treadmill between 4 - 6 mph. Also have bumped up my baseline incline from 9 to 10.

Have to admit that I've slacked in the past by mostly plugging into the same speed, same incline every day. Varying the speed enables me to better pace myself to the tunes I'm listening to also which helps to rev me up too!

Hoping I can yet shed some more pounds after ALL! :-)

I truly WOULD like to break through to ONE-derland someday. I may find that weight to be too difficult to sustain, as Coach Dean found out for himself ( www.sparkpeople.com/resource/motivat
ion_articles.asp?id=725
), and may have to accept a maintaining weight above 200, but I'd like to at LEAST TRY and find out for myself!

Don

  
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SOULCOLLAGESUE 9/10/2009 7:34PM

    I celebrate you!

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TRAINOF4 8/29/2009 11:27PM

    Keep shakin' things up & you'll break through that plateau! Hope you get to kayak this weekend - sounds like fun & lots of great cardio & upper body work - not to mention core work, too!

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L*I*T*A* 8/28/2009 9:40AM

    way to go..............as you switch things up all the best in trying to reach a new goal.................if it is mean't to be it will work for you...........blessings and hugs..................lita

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HEALTHY_CAROLYN 8/27/2009 1:29PM

    Hey, Don, I've been changing things up on the treadmill, too, and I'm not sure if it's worked yet, but it makes me happier to be challenging myself. I've been increasing my times at the various speeds, instead of my 5-minute increment bumps. I feel like this summer of treadmilling (oh, how I can't wait for the cooler weather and some hiking!) has made my body get used to what I'm doing. So, while I still have to mainly do my cardio inside, I'm going to keep trying to challenge myself. All the best on getting where you want to go! (And that's no treadmill joke!)

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KELLI9001 8/27/2009 12:17PM

    Awesome info! Thanks!

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MARYBETH_OHIO 8/27/2009 11:47AM

    I am so proud of you , you are one who truly believes in what you can accomplish and that is what makes me so proud..
Huggles,
Marybeth

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SUZIAND 8/27/2009 11:14AM

    Man...you're a machine on that treadmill! I can't wait til the day I can do a 4-6 mph pace and an incline like that! What an inspiration!

I fully understand wanting the One-derlands. I can't wait for the day! Right now...and for the longest time...my body has decided that it is the most comfortable in the 230's. /sighs. Stupid body. But I'm taking control again....it's gonna listen to me now! lol!

Have a great day Don! Keep pushing and being an inspiration for us all!

Suz :)

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4A-HEALTHY-BMI 8/27/2009 9:30AM

    I like switching things up on my elliptical, too. It has handy built-in profiles for workouts that vary the intensity. The modes are:

- weight loss (ramps up to max and back down 3x)
- event training (alternates between max & min)
- cardio (I forget what this does)

I was using "event training" for a long time but recently tried "weight loss" last Sunday when I had 2 elliptical sessions in one day and didn't want to do the same exact thing.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that "weight loss" mode works me a lot harder. So that's my new default for now... Until I need to switch it up again!

And I hear you on the 100s. As of this morning I'm 10.3 lbs away from 199! Woo-hoo!

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Time.com's Top 50 Websites: Egregious Oversight!

Monday, August 24, 2009

SparkPeople.com did NOT make Time.com's list of the Top 50 Websites of 2009!
www.time.com/time/specials/packages/
completelist/0,29569,1918031,00.html


I couldn't find any link where folks could post their votes, hadn't even heard Time was looking for votes. Neither could I find where folks might post their strong feelings for websites which should have been included.

I was hoping that us SparkPeople fans could BOMB Time.com with complaints & requests to add SparkPeople.com to their list! Especially as I couldn't find a single health and wellness website included on their list...! C'mon we don't want the USA to be represented by a Top 50 which doesn't even list a health and wellness site...!!

If anyone can find where we can contact Time.com and inform them of their oversight I would be MOST appreciative and THEN perhaps we can begin a campaign where we can "educate" Time.com...right? :-)

Don

  
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CARRIE1948 8/25/2009 7:43AM

    It probably didn't make it because, good as you may thing this site is, it doesn't have the stickiness or broad base appeal of sites like Skype. Just because you like something doesn't mean that it has to be the best.

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4A-HEALTHY-BMI 8/24/2009 10:32AM

    How about here, for submitting feedback?
http://talkback.time.c
om/2008/06/13/whats-your-favori
te-website
It's for the 2008 list, but maybe they'd notice if people opined there about the 2009 list?
Also, it's interesting to see what other sites people said they liked.

Here's a podcast explaining how they chose the list for 2008
http://www.time.com/time/po
dcast/2008/50_best_websites

Comment edited on: 8/24/2009 11:19:22 AM

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UMUCGRAD 8/24/2009 9:54AM

    Great catch! It is inconscionable that the top 50 doesn't include a wellness site. Especially in these days of 'health care reform' zeal. You'd think that getting/staying'being well would be a high priority. What are they thinking at Time?

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Protecting Our SparkFamily Haven!

Friday, August 21, 2009

Apologies to anyone who might have already seen this posted elsewhere by me, but I feel so strongly about this I feel I can't repeat it enough!

Always, ALWAYS whenever you come across something on the SparkPeople website that you think is inappropriate, shocking, questionable, do not hesitate to click on "report inappropriate post" / SparkPage / whathaveyou...the SP techies are VERY quick to take action!

I feel HIGHLY defensive of our online "haven" here and want to do all I can to keep unsavory elements out! We have a positive, constructive, supportive and SAFE place here so let's all work together to keep up our SparkNeighborhood Watch so we can KEEP it that way!

Don

PS...Perhaps I should clarify, as I am VERY accepting of the wide range of lifestyles out there and HARDLY mean to suggest any targeting or censoring of people who are not of the mainstream. I am referring to posts, blogs, SparkPages which

---someone is hawking, marketing, selling a product or service.
---contains sexually explicit text / pictures.
---contains text / pictures of harm or threats of harm toward others.

If one sees something that makes you uneasy, squirming in some way, report it and let those running SparkPeople determine whether or not this is appropriate for our community.

  
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SOULCOLLAGESUE 9/10/2009 7:28PM

    Okay. It's good to have guidelines from an involved Sparker. Fortunately, I've yet to come across such examples. If I do, I'll promptly advise SparkPeople.

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HEALTHY2MORROW 8/22/2009 10:45AM

    I agree. Do no harm. Protect our site!


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ROYALETBONE 8/22/2009 2:19AM

    I'm not sure I agree. I mean- if someone attacks ME too often- then I will tell the company. But I love the full range of expression here- and I figure if somebody prays for me and tells me to find Jesus etc, I can delete and not read it. After all, what's 'offensive' to one person, is a blessing to another.
Like that.
Wild dyke AddGnostic anti-Christian profanity laden wyman that I am- I keep it to my own group, and we love it. So... what are you REALLY worried about? I guess, I say absolutely NO to fat hate... but I see it way too often on peoples pages to sweat it too much. I say NO to being mean... or bigotry. Or, or, er, what are you refering to? Not freedom of speech?

PS To YOUR ps... yeah! I can totally agree with your added provisos. I just had to speak up about the morality police- or the people who think we shouldn't talk politics, or whatever. Thanks for the clarification!
Mare


Comment edited on: 8/22/2009 11:56:42 AM

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QUEST4CHANGE 8/21/2009 10:24PM

  emoticonthanks! i have left other sites b/c of the interpersonal attacks, language, etc. i don't expect pollyanna, but love that SP seems to enforce their TOS!

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The Power of The SPARK!

Thursday, August 20, 2009

Change Your Thinking:

It will take just 37 seconds to read this and change your thinking..

Two men, both seriously ill, occupied the same hospital room.

One man was allowed to sit up in his bed for an hour each afternoon to help drain the fluid from his lungs.

His bed was next to the room's only window.

The other man had to spend all his time flat on his back.

The men talked for hours on end.

They spoke of their wives and families, their homes, their jobs, their involvement in the military service, where they had been on vacation.

Every afternoon, when the man in the bed by the window could sit up, he would pass the time by describing to his roommate all the things he could see outside the window.

The man in the other bed began to live for those one hour periods where his world would be broadened and enlivened by all the activity and color of the world outside.

The window overlooked a park with a lovely lake.

Ducks and swans played on the water while children sailed their model boats. Young lovers walked arm in arm amidst flowers of every color and a fine view of the city skyline could be seen in the distance.

As the man by the window described all this in exquisite details, the man on the other side of the room would close his eyes and imagine this picturesque scene.

One warm afternoon, the man by the window described a parade passing by.

Although the other man could not hear the band - he could see it in his mind's eye as the gentleman by the window portrayed it with descriptive words.

Days, weeks and months passed.

One morning, the day nurse arrived to bring water for their baths only to find the lifeless body of the man by the window, who had died peacefully in his sleep.

She was saddened and called the hospital attendants to take the body away.

As soon as it seemed appropriate, the other man asked if he could be moved next to the window. The nurse was happy to make the switch, and after making sure he was comfortable, she left him alone.

Slowly, painfully, he propped himself up on one elbow to take his first look at the real world outside.

He strained to slowly turn to look out the window besides the bed.

It faced a blank wall.

The man asked the nurse what could have compelled his deceased roommate who had described such wonderful things outside this window.

The nurse responded that the man was blind and could not even see the wall.

She said, 'Perhaps he just wanted to encourage you.'

Epilogue:

There is tremendous happiness in making others happy, despite our own situations.

"Shared grief is half the sorrow, but happiness when shared, is doubled."
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A friend kindly passed this story along to me today and I couldn't help but think about the myriad of ways we here in our SparkFamily are here for each other every day, 24/7, offering such support and strength to each other.

How often is it that one of us will "see" what another one of us can't...whether it is a positive quality within, a success that wasn't obvious, or a solution one might not have thought of...? We share with each other, offering our gifts of "sight"...!

Every day we grow healthier, stronger, serve as great role models for others in our lives and SPREAD the SPARK!

Sending this out with a heartfelt THANK YOU to everyone in our SparkPeople community for making this all possible!

Don

  
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SOULCOLLAGESUE 8/21/2009 10:33AM

    Don, I heard this story once before, and am happy you shared it on SparkPeople. It's a well-articulated version, and your personal response makes it all the more inspiring. This thought is new to me, though, and I will take it with me: "Shared grief is half the sorrow, but happiness when shared, is doubled." Have a lovely day, my friend!

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MUSIC66 8/21/2009 7:15AM

    That blog had a very powerful statementto say we should engerage each other as much as we can. emoticon

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KELLI9001 8/21/2009 6:52AM

    I've read this before and each time it makes a very powerful statement. Thanks for relating it to SP and being a constant positive in everyone's lives!
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ROYALETBONE 8/20/2009 5:02PM

    Thank you- perfect blog for me.
I needed that.
I've read it before- but somehow it really spoke to me today... I'm a tad blue, feeling overwhelmed- so I think I'll go 'look at the parade.'
Mare

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