Tuesday, May 20, 2008
I just came back from the hospital, the other stabbing victim is improving day by day. He's not needing the morphine as often but sometimes he's in so much pain he needs it. He's up and walking a bit, slowly, but he can make it to the bathroom (cath is out). When I saw him he seemed to being doing fine emotionally. We were all joking about a big balloon my daughter picked for him of a huge frog's head, apparently he woke up from a deep sleep still induced with morphine, saw the balloon right above him, and thought it was a person with a weird green frog head... and was like "What the heck???!!"
I finally got my daughter home for some sleep, but she's going to go back this evening, but not sure for how long. I want her to get more than just a few hours here and there, but she's doing okay. I think talking about it has been very helpful for her and we dropped by her school on the way home this morning to update her counselor and law teacher who knew all the victims from previous years. Apparently every May long weekend, her law teacher warns the class about how the accident rate and other mostly alcohol involved incidents that happen as a warning to be careful, and she does this every year. Ironic, but so true. Apparently the victim and Cody received the same warning a couple of years ago while in her class as well. My daughter's many friends have also been very supportive, so she's been surrounded by love and comfort.
A few hours later my daughter is back off to the hospital with friends again. She gets really anxious when she's away from him, even knowing he's getting better. At least she got a little sleep in and some better food.
Teens charged with murder
Charges laid following the stabbing death of a 19-year-old at Cultus Lake
Allison Cross, Vancouver Sun
Published: Tuesday, May 20, 2008
CHILLIWACK - Two Chilliwack men have been charged with second degree murder in relation to the stabbing death of a 19-year-old Richmond man at Cultus Lake over the weekend.
Adam Derek Phillips, 18, has been charged with one count of second degree murder, two counts of assault with a weapon, one count of aggravated assault, one count of assault causing bodily harm and one count of possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose.
Justin Wayne Lennerd, 19, has been charged with one count of second degree murder, one count of aggravated assault and one count of assault causing harm.
A third man from Chilliwack, 22-year-old Nathan John Simmons, has been charged with aggravated assault and assault causing bodily harm.
Richmond's Cody Gottschalk died from stab wounds after an altercation with the three men at the Cultus Lake beach area on Saturday around 11 p.m. Two other men, including a park employee who tried to break up the fight, ended up in hospital with serious but non-life-threatening stab wounds.
RCMP said a fourth victim was also assaulted in the incident but was not stabbed. The suspects fled the beach area but were tracked by investigators and a police dog and arrested shortly after.
Gottschalk and two other victims were camping at Cultus Lake for the weekend, said RCMP.
All three suspects, who were not camping at the time of the incident, are expected to appear in court in Chilliwack today.
Anyone with information about what happened is asked to call the Integrated Homicide Investigative Team at 1-866-373-7886, or leave an anonymous tip at CrimeStoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.
www.canada.com/vancouversun/news ... b435b13847
You'd think they'd be charged with attempted murder too, but maybe they can add it on later. I wonder if it's because the stabbing victim doesn't remember much, all he remembers is that they were white and around the same age as him and his friends. At least they are charged and have to be remanded.
The fourth victim was also their friend and I think I mentioned it earlier but he was just beat up and chocked.
The victim's stab wounds were hardly non-life-threatening when he arrived by helicopter. They missed an artery a millimeter and he needed a blood transfusion because his BP dropped suddenly and very dangerously low. I guess they say that now because he will survive. It just seems so played down to what I've witnessed. I heard the victim also was trying to tell the park employee not to worry about him (after being stabbed) and to go help his friends.
I learned today from my daughter that the victim received 4 stab wounds to the back three on one side and one on the other (she saw them) and both kidneys were hit. But they are healing well and don't look infected. For some reason they don't want to stitch them up and want them to heal on their own, more unlikely to get infected apparently.
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Tuesday, May 20, 2008
The latest update:
My daughter's boyfriend is doing better bit by bit, he's even walking a little which is great news. My daughter has been at his side all day and will go back at 1 AM to relieve his mother.
Newest news about the incident:
Innocent remark leads to death
Teenaged victim stabbed at Cultus Lake wanted to be an RCMP officer
Doug Ward and Darah Hansen, Vancouver Sun
Published: Monday, May 19, 2008
Cody Gottschalk�s innocent remark that he wanted to join the RCMP someday may have triggered a brawl in which he was stabbed to death Saturday at Cultus Lake Park.
The 19-year-old Richmond man�s comment came after a group of young adults were asked by two park patrollers to leave a Cultus Lake beach area at about 11 p.m., park manager Scott Coulson said Monday.
Coulson said park staff later told him Gottschalk had agreed they should move, and then told the patrollers about his ambition to become a RCMP officer.
This prompted another young man to �get in his face and say, �Oh, really and would you arrest me?� � said Coulson.
�The first gentleman said, �I would arrest you if you did something wrong,� and then it started.�
Initially, the patrollers thought only fists were being used, but it quickly became evident that a knife had been wielded when they saw Gottschalk covered in blood, said Coulson.
�It was pretty sad.�
The Facebook page, �In memory of Cody Gottschalk� had gathered more than 100 members by Monday evening.
The Cultus Lake clash also left two males with stabbing injuries, including a 20-year-old who was taken to hospital with several serious but non-life-threatening wounds.
The third victim was a park employee who tried to break up the fight.
He suffered minor injuries, and was treated at hospital and released.
Police investigators, using a police dog, tracked three suspects and arrested them shortly after the fatal incident. The three males are in custody at the Chilliwack RCMP office, where they will remain pending charges.
Park manager Coulson said the Victoria Day weekend is usually the first busy weekend of the season at Cultus Lake.
�People often blow off steam but it�s usually low-key. Some people might get rowdy, but it�s usually contained.
�But this was something extraordinary. It�s something that has never happened here before.� ......
Monday, May 19, 2008
All was good, my family and I were all enjoying a family wedding in Victoria when on the way home my daughter got a call from a friend that a horrible tragedy had occurred and it involved her boyfriend of over a year and his two friends, one a very best friend of her boyfriend.
She knew that he had gone camping for one night to relax and have some fun with two friends after a solo flight he did from Vancouver to Calgary and back (the first time over the Rocky Mountains) that was extremely successful and beautiful (his mom was a passenger). He was to return the next day to study for his exams to become a commercial pilot that was coming up very soon and he was expected to do well.
We all learned through various phone calls from my daughter’s friends, who were all shocked and in disbelief (especially the other victims girlfriend, a good friend of my daughter) and their families on the mainland, that there was a fight and her boyfriend and his best friend were stabbed and that it was very serious. The other friend was beaten up a bit but was okay. I must say that these friends are good boys and don’t cause trouble, even if they are drinking (all of legal age). We heard all sorts of jumbled information at first, that one was okay, one was in critical condition and being air lifted to a Vancouver hospital, and that one was at the Chilliwack hospital. An hour late we got the news that my daughter's boyfriend's best friend actually died (at the scene) and that her boyfriend was stabbed twice in the back and that he was the one airlifted to a Vancouver mainland hospital. Both his kidneys were involved and he was in serious condition.
Both my daughter and I tried to get some sleep but couldn’t, she was in terrible shock that he was so hurt and her good friend was dead. We took the first morning ferry over to the mainland and from there drove straight to the hospital where we got to see him and things seemed even more dire than we first thought. His blood pressure had dropped dangerously low during the night (approximately 65-25) and he had to have a blood given to him to bring it back up. Because of this, the family didn’t want to tell him about his best friend’s death until he was more stable and they knew more about the seriousness of his condition. He was given a CT scan during the night and then one again while we were there during the afternoon. It took forever waiting for him to return and then again for the results. The urologist had first suspected that he may need to have surgery and one or both of his kidneys may have to be removed depending on the damage and the results of the most recent CT scan. Apparently the MRI machine is “closed” on Sundays there, ridiculous. We finally all got the results that the scan was good and it looked like he would not need any surgery. We all had suspected this and hoped for this news because he was more active and talkative when not sleeping (of course he was pumped full of Morphine), and his urine output was looking clearer and less bloody. He did keep asking about his best friend’s status and it was hard for everyone to lie to him about it but we all wanted him to be stronger physically first before telling him. He also didn’t really remember much of the event.
The man who stabbed both kids knew what he was doing, and had stabbed him where he knew it would cause the most damage, right in both kidneys. The urologist called him a “killer” because he knew exactly what he was doing and had only missed one of his arteries by 1 mm. The other victim who died at the scene was stabbed five times in the chest. At least we know the police had the suspects in custody and a bus load of witnesses.
It was all over the news by noon, and the first story on the evening news:
Teen killed at campground
19-year-old dead and two others injured after a fight broke out at Cultus Lake
Published: Sunday, May 18, 2008
CHILLIWACK — A brawl at Cultus Lake campsite late Saturday night ended with one teenager dead and two others with stabbing injuries.
Corp. Dale Carr said violence broke out at Chilliwack's Sunnyside campground around 11 p.m. Three suspects were tracked down by an RCMP dog squad and have been taken in for questioning.
A 19-year-old Richmond man was killed during the fight and a 20-year-old was taken to hospital with several "serious" stab wounds. The third victim was a park patrol employee who tried to break up the fight. He suffered minor injuries.
Homicide investigators were at the scene today searching for clues to what happened, and interviewing witnesses.
Carr said it's not known right now what the fight was about.
"Everything is still kind of unclear," he said.
However, witnesses say the fight involved two groups of young males and alcohol was involved. They say the fight may have been involving a girl.
While portions of the camp remain behind yellow police tape this afternoon, a female employee of Sunnyside confirmed the park was still operating.
Some of the reports made it sound like it was two gangs involved in a fight over a girl which was not the case. They were not two gangs, and it was not over a girl. It was two groups of boys, both were drinking, but one group was there to cause trouble and get in a fight and apparently to kill someone.
When I finally left hospital around 6 PM, being that I was up for 36 hours straight, the other victim, my daughter's boyfriend, was still drugged heavily but was doing better physically than when we first arrived at the hospital that morning. He was still in and out of sleep, I told him I was leaving and he expressed gratitude that I was there, and thanked me for coming. Always the polite boy. He was moved into a bigger more comfortable bed that could fit his length (no more feet hanging off the end) and off the typically narrow and short emergency bed. My daughter stayed a bit longer, she had many friends there with her, and later slept at my father’s house which is much closer than ours. She then returned to the hospital to be with him and his family and friends in the morning.
Today he’s still doing well and is out of the emergency/ trauma ward. He’s been told of his best friend’s murder now, with his family and a social worker present, and is in shock and very upset as expected, but he is surrounded by his family, his girlfriend, and other friends who are always present for emotional support, and seems to be doing better physically too which is a very good sign.
I really hope that he and all his friends get some grief counseling or some sort of help. These terrible tragedies are difficult for the older adults to deal with but must be even more traumatic for young adults and late teens.
If any other relevant new news comes about regarding the stabbing victim or this tragedy, I’ll keep blogging about it.
I appreciate all the support everyone has expressed to me and my daughter as well as all those affected.
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Friday, May 16, 2008
It's a long weekend in BC and my cousin is having her wedding on Saturday. She lives in Victoria so my sister, my daughter and I will be taking the ferry over late Friday after work and will be staying with my mom who lives there.
I've been a very anxious and stressed (and irritable) this week because of many things, but also I think because of this social event. I hate these types of things, but I bought myself a couple of new dresses and matching shoes and that's a huge step for me. I prefer comfy clothes and hardly ever wear dresses, especially in the last few years. I hope they work out and I'm able to socialize a bit. We will see. And what about my nutrition entries??! Yikes! I at least can keep up with the bootcamp videos at my mom, I'll just throw my weights into the car.
Anyways, I hope the rest of you have a great weekend (long or not) and I'll miss all of you!
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