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OUC Half Marathon in the books.

Saturday, December 01, 2012

This morning I did the OUC Half Marathon and had a nice run. Weather could not have been better. nice and cool.

I had intended to not race hard but rather use it as a training run. I was fairly successful at this, but my pace was slightly higher than I originally planned for. I was thinking about 2:20 - 2:25 would be good, but I'm not good at pacing.

In the beginning, I walked every 5 minutes or so, and had it nice and easy. Eventually even this pace became tiring as I continued on. I continued my run/walk strategy, trying to get a feel at pacing for my upcoming marathon in February. At the 6 mile mark I had a time of 1:01 not too bad, a trifle fast though.

The miles passed, and when I got to mile 12, I was doing fine. I got a bit caught up in the crowd cheering and walked less than I had been doing.

Ending up with a nice finish time of 2:17:21 only 4 seconds off what my Timex Ironman watch reported. I guess it's pretty accurate.

So far no pain or cramps, that's good news. Let's see how I feel tomorrow. I hope I don't need a long recovery time, 'cuz I'd like to get right back to my Hal Higdon Marathon training program right away.

Thanks for reading and have a great day.

Here's a picture of the bling for my friend Daphne (Doral33178)

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BROOKLYN_BORN 12/7/2012 6:57AM

    Congratulations! You look great by the way and you have a terrific name for racing - the VICTOR comes across the finish line!

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    Wish I knew you were going to be there to meet up. I pulled out a 2:21:59 even with my iffy Achilles. I thought it was way too warm personally.

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RUNNER12COM 12/2/2012 11:46AM

    Cool medal and nice job!

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FUNFROG79 12/2/2012 10:49AM

    Great work! Impressive medal! emoticon

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STRIVER57 12/2/2012 10:06AM

    excellent!! planning the walks helps ... and training to them. yes i've become a galloway convert! and happy birthday, only slightly late!

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LISAINMS 12/2/2012 9:38AM

    Congratulations! Pacing is hard when there is an exciting crowd around.

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MASRITE 12/1/2012 11:24PM

    Love the bling!! You did such an awesome job on this half. That is a great time for a run/walk. You are on FIRE!!! emoticon

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    Awesome job! You are such an inspiration!

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LAURIE5658 12/1/2012 7:23PM

    Great work, Vic! HM's can be successfully used for training runs and you proved that. Nice bling there, Vic!

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BUTTERFLY-1976 12/1/2012 4:54PM

    Cool bling!! Great race report & awesome time!!

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ROXYZMOM 12/1/2012 4:25PM

    That is great! Glad you are enjoying your birthday! Cool medal!

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DAISYBELL6 12/1/2012 4:18PM

    Great Job! emoticon

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CINDHOLM 12/1/2012 3:53PM

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DAPHNE_RUNS 12/1/2012 2:20PM

    Vic, congrats on a great finish. It is so much more enjoyable to run when the weather is nice.

I am a fan of the Hal Hidgon's training plans myself....just upgraded to the intermediate half plan.

I would love to see a close up of your bling.

Rest up and enjoy your weekend. emoticon

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ONEKIDSMOM 12/1/2012 2:17PM

    emoticon It's hard to hold yourself back when there's an "event" in progress. But you did well!

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PMRUNNER 12/1/2012 1:28PM

    Way to go! You rock! emoticon

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LINDAKAY228 12/1/2012 1:23PM

    Great job! Congratulations!

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KELSEY54 12/1/2012 1:14PM

    Congrats! emoticon

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JACKIE542 12/1/2012 1:10PM

    Good job, congratulations. emoticon

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SEABREEZE65 12/1/2012 1:02PM

    Congratulation.... Looks like a nice day!

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DALID414 12/1/2012 1:01PM

    Wow! You speed demon!!

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ONMYMEDS 12/1/2012 1:00PM

    Another great job. You are kicking my butt at every distance. But then, you ARE younger than I am, so I'll take that into account.


Nice race, buddy.

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PASTAFARIAN 12/1/2012 12:38PM

    Excellent race report - thanks for sharing! You made me laugh at "Eventually even this pace became tiring as I continued on." You mean I'm not supposed to get tired when I run my HMs? :-)

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Have we gone insane?

Sunday, November 25, 2012

Our local Hostess distributor is going out of business today. They are having a final sale of Hostess products at their Bakery Outlet. Twinkies and HoHos will be disappearing from store shelves.

I am watching the local TV news station, on the scene reporting on this event. There is a line 2 blocks long of folks who are waiting for the store to open so they can stuck up on Hostess supplies.

The people in line look line most of the 'before' pictures I see on the spark people profiles. And let me congratulate those who are posting those beautiful 'after' pictures along with their own before pictures.

I was already in shock that this was a news event, and that people were reacting in this manner. I mean, come on, feeling a need to hoard Hostess stuff?

So then, the reporter stops while paces by the line, and speaks to a portly woman, who is with her rather large husband who is holding an infant. The customer explains that Hostess was a big part of her life when she was growing up (surprise, surprise) and that she did not want to 'deprive' her kids of the opportunity to enjoy them in their own childhood. She planned to save them for the kids to savor at a later date.

Don't get me wrong, I love my sweets and treats, including Hostess products. When I first heard they were going out of business I was not happy to hear that an American icon had failed as a business. But, I moved on. I knew I could get products which were every bit as tasty as their products, had I ever gotten a craving for HoHos, Twinkies or similar comfort food.

I just don't get why this story is on the news. Worthy of being repeated several times already this morning. The reporter has yet to wink at the camera and nod her head in the direction of those in line. She is playing this seriously, like those folks in line are a perfectly normal slice of society.

Thanks for reading and have a great day.

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LANEYTHEGIRL 12/12/2012 2:11PM

    I often wonder if a percentage of the people rushing the stores and in those lines are just getting swept up in the chaos. Like on their own, they would be more rational. Then they see a few people going to the stores to buy these treats, and they panic. They get tricked into thinking they are losing something of great value. Trust me folks, there is plenty of junk food to fill the void. No need to panic. Oreo cookies are pretty tasty. I should know. I love them although it's been some time since I've had one.

Also, being in the news business myself, it's silly to say this should be ignored and not covered. The news value here is that people are doing something absolutely absurd so it's interesting. Case in point, someone wrote a whole blog about it and we are sitting here talking about it right now. We went out and interviewed people lined up three days early to take advantage of Black Friday. Those people were equally absurd. If nobody cared, it wouldn't be on the news.

Great blog!

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MRE1956 12/1/2012 7:44AM

    Sigh - yes, I fear that you are *right* and that we are, indeed, going insane.....


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HEALTHY-SPARK 11/29/2012 7:44PM

    hah. Sometimes when I see crazy news stories like this, I think to myself, wow, there really must not be much else to report on in the world today. Personally, I figured they went out of business because they are so unhealthy -- and if this woman on the news was planning on keeping those around long enough so that her infant child could enjoy them, what does that say about the nutritional content of these items? Eek.

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MYTIME 11/29/2012 3:16PM

    Boilham, loved seeing you complete a marathon, for purely selfish reasons, as in, I still have a chance at 53, lol. AND, love your wallpaper.

PMrunner, your might try SaraLee Lite, whole wheat. There is one that has a touch of honey that is sweeter than their regular wheat. Only 45 calories a slice, light texture, ky grandkids eat it fine.

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PMRUNNER 11/27/2012 10:44AM

    I had the opportunity to meet and talk to ABC news journalist John McWethy a few years back. He related a story where he was on a plane making small talk with the woman next to him. It came around to asking what he did, and he told her that he was a journalist. (this was at the height of the surge in Iraq and he had been embedded with one of the units serving over there) She then said something about how it really bothered her that the media spent so much time covering things like the war in Iraq instead of important things like Pamela Anderson or Brangelina or Paris Hilton or fill in the celebrity de jour.

Overweight people hoarding twinkies and ho-hos is news because people watch it. It is kind of like rubbernecking when passing a traffic accident.

That being said, my wife and kids don't eat bread with flavor/fiber/taste. The closest they got to healthier bread was wonder white wheat bread. Now I have to find a new bread that they will eat and that is nutritionally better than cardboard!

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ROXYZMOM 11/27/2012 8:32AM

    I was saddened to see it go, but, I haven't eaten a Twinkie or HoHo since I was a kid. I don't think a lotbofvpeople have which one of the reasons they ate closing. I will miss Wonderbread - I had the wheat bread delivered to my school for the past 15 years. Since they owned so many bread brands, I expect the bread prices to rise. I couldn't imagine freezing twinkies and hohos for my kids. Their kids are going to end up being just as heavy with role models like that -- so sad : (

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SKINNYPOWELL1 11/27/2012 7:32AM

    That story definitely sounds way over blown to me. I too was upset to hear another icon was going under, but to line up two blocks for a twinky....utterly ridiculous. I have not had a twinkie since I was a kid, I know I would probably die if I read the ingredient list, lol. Nothing beats a diet coke can of diet pepsi, one box of choc cake mix, cool whip and fresh strawberries, a healthy substitute for the ho ho's.

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CAT-IN-CJ 11/26/2012 4:22PM

    To answer your question, in my opinion, yes, we, as a nation, have lost our minds.

I just checked, and today's figures indicate that we eat an average between 150 and 158 POUNDS of sugar a year.

If that's an average, somebody's gotta be eating a whole lot more than that to make up for those of us who don't.

Any wonder our health issues are soaring?!

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ARCHIMEDESII 11/26/2012 4:14PM

    I feel bad that Hostess is going out of business. When I was growing up (back in the Dark Ages), everyone bought Wonderbread. Honestly, it did make the best grilled cheese sandwiches. I got Hostess cupcakes in my lunch bag when I went on field trips.

The point. I'm sad that a national icon is going out of business because I do have fond memories of eating Hostess products as a kid. I feel the poor Twinkie was wrongly maligned for being the source of America's expanding waistline. The American obesity problem goes way beyond the Twinkie and Ho Ho.

a couple of years ago, a friend brought in some Twinkies. I hadn't had one in years. Figured one Twinkie at 100 calories was mostly harmless. Tried it. This was not the Twinkie of my youth. Hostess did change their ingredients over the years. So, it didn't taste the same as I remembered.

Still, I feel bad that all those employees are now out of work. that's not hundreds, that's thousands. very sad. I hope another company may be able to buy them and re-invigorate the brand name. Life isn't the same without Hostess.

Yeah, I'm living a healthy lifestyle and try to avoid highly processed foods. But... you don't have to be perfect to be healthy. Even a Twinkie once in a while can still be a part of a healthy lifestyle.

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CAGMUAHFO2 11/26/2012 4:12PM

    I agree, I do not believe it is that important to actually send a news reporter out, there are more important things for the news I believe.

I do not eat sweets that often and if my son had a choice he would gladly take something healthy over junk food.

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KJELLYBEAN15 11/26/2012 4:11PM

    I am so thankful that I do not have access to a TV right now. Really? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I have a few pounds or more on my body thanks to a few too many Zingers, but give me a break. Depriving a child of warm fattening goodies is nothing to call the newscast about. Change the angle and grieve for the employees who just lost a job.

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GOPINTOS 11/26/2012 3:54PM

    Enjoyed this blog! Thanks for sharing!

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FUNFROG79 11/26/2012 9:57AM

    Depriving the child of sugary snacks is probably the BEST thing you can do for them. I don't know why people are freaking out anyway, bc the recipes are online-lol!

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DAPHNE_RUNS 11/25/2012 8:28PM

    My husband bought Twinkies for the kids a few months ago and they did not like them...yay!!! Can't say I will miss them myself. Of course I grew up eating all of Hostesses snacks, but I stopped eating them when I went to college.

Sad that another American icon is disappearing, but this one will be better off gone. There are too many health issues today that was brought on by people eating too much of the wrong things like Ho Hos and Twinkies. And besides there is still plenty of junk out there.

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LINDAKAY228 11/25/2012 7:53PM

    I liked Hostess too but not enough to stand in line anywhere to buy them, even if they will be no more. And not enough definitely to pay some of the prices I"ve heard they are going for now since they are stopping production. There is enough other junk food out there I have to avoid without hoarding Hostess!

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RUN_BAKE_BLOG 11/25/2012 6:00PM

    I am always amazed by what is now considered 'news'. I truly do not recall anything remotely Hollywood related as being a part of the nightly news. But...we interrupt talking about war and floods in NY to discuss what teeny bopper broke up with who this week.
So honestly, it is not surprising that poison in the form of a baked 'treat' is news to some. It is rather sickening. I certainly hope they stop spending money on studies to figure out why obesity is an issue in the US.
As for Hostess, someone will buy it and keep on baking that crap. Twinkies will continue to survive all of us. I would put money on it.

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FANGFACEKITTY 11/25/2012 1:56PM

    I, personally, am insane and I embrace it! But that is insane by "normal" people's definitions because I don't like Twinkies or Ding Dongs, I exercise regularly, and I eat reasonably healthy. I don't fit in with the majority anymore, so that makes me insane.

I can see why it would be a news story...look at all the unhealthy people so desperate to stay that way that they line up for hours to stockpile Twinkies and is this really a good idea? Too bad the news media didn't go with that angle, probably too afraid of potential lawsuits for making someone "feel bad" about their poor life choices.

Although even when I was very overweight...I would never have done what those people are doing.

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WINDSURFNERD 11/25/2012 1:25PM

    What's insane is that they call those people "normal" and US "insane"...for running and racing! I'll keep my form of insanity, thank you ;-)

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LAURIE5658 11/25/2012 12:51PM

    Vic, to me this entire country is wildly wonky right now and I find it very disturbing. Nuff said.

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4A-HEALTHY-BMI 11/25/2012 12:43PM

    Oh well, there will still be Little Debbie and Tasty Kakes.


Seriously, if they ALL disappeared we'd be better off. Along with Coca Cola and 7up...

But our society is destined to go the way depicted in WALL-E.

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MJZHERE 11/25/2012 12:11PM

    Thank you for the laugh this morning - both DH and I really enjoyed your perspective on the line. I really don't understand the news - the comment on the homeless made me think. In Phx, homelessness is growing - weekly - we are down there at least twice a week and watching the increase which is phenomenal, and our news reports how much it is down (when they report anything). But let us not forget, hostess sales must be at an all time high right now. Thanks again for this post.

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ONEKIDSMOM 11/25/2012 11:45AM

    Sometimes I think we go the opposite extreme like "ex-smokers" who are so completely intolerant of those who still do. BUT, that said, it's just a sign of the times. Hopefully it means we are eating more healthfully that a business like Hostess is going under... but probably it just means the national taste has changed.

I'm just glad I no longer crave or feel the need to gorge on such things, even though I did as a teen.

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MARATHONDAD 11/25/2012 11:19AM

    yes that is sad buddy I dont know how this is even news worthy with all the homeless and sick people in the world.

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ONMYMEDS 11/25/2012 10:19AM

    If our society can make celebrities out of Kardashians and Hillary Hiltons, it can make news out of ANYTHING.

I stopped subscribing to our local paper when I discovered the quality of writing was about on the level of a grade school newsletter.

Unfortunately, I think those same writers are now working for Yahoo. But then I start reading the readers comments and realize the writing level is right on target with its audience.

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JACKIE542 11/25/2012 9:44AM

    It is amazing what reporters think is newsworthy, I say enough already. Look at the bakery items out there more than enough to take there place. I loved Hostess too, but I gave all this up. emoticon emoticon

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HOLLYM48 11/25/2012 9:32AM

    Oh, please! Please deprive your child of hostess as it is garbage, garbage, garbage!
I cannot believe this was news worth either! I look around me and see all these very over weight people out in restaurants and want to tell them to wake up before it is too late! Keep spreading the spark! emoticon

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"Spirit of the Marathon", Have you heard of it?

Tuesday, November 20, 2012

You might be one of those sparkers who are curious as to why we runners aspire to do a full Marathon race. Or perhaps you are a runner yourself, but believe that the 26.2 mile race is just too much for you.

The movie "Spirit of the Marathon" is about 6 athletes who are preparing for the Chicago Marathon. Tnis movie will give you insight as to why they and we do it, and just might inspire you to attempt this herculean effort yourself.

The movie tells the individual story of each of the 6 runners as the movie unfolds. We have elite runners (Deena Castor) and newer runners, experienced runners and an old geezer like myself. Jerry the old guy is my favorite character, as he is one with whom I can identify. He's a multiple marathon runner and a bit overweight, but still a marathon runner who has the heart of a lion. I love this guy. You will, too.

You can get this movie on Hulu, or Netflix and probably many more places. I highly recommend it, if you are curious about marathoners, or aspire to run one yourself.

Take care and have a great day.

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ONMYMEDS 12/7/2012 3:47PM

    Vic, I just stumbled across another good marathon movie. It's actually a PBS episode that has been uploaded to youtube.

Here is the link. Take a look.

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LINDAKAY228 11/25/2012 7:51PM

    I absolutely love that movie and have watched it several times. I recorded on my DVR about a year and a half ago when it was on the Documentary CHannel and I refuse to delete it.

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MASRITE 11/24/2012 12:04AM

    Thanks for letting us know about the movie. Have to check it out on Netflix. Maybe, just maybe, it'll inspire me to try for a marathon. We'll see. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!!

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ONEKIDSMOM 11/23/2012 5:38PM

    Thanks for this recommendation. I looked it up on Netflix and watched it today (around the Nebraska - Iowa football game that is), re-living memories of last weekend and pondering what's next... while walking / jogging on the treadmill. Feels good to move after being cooped up in the car!

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SIOBHANKNITS 11/21/2012 8:11PM

    Thanks for reminding me of this movie. My husband & I turn 58 this winter. It's been decades since he's done a marathon and I've never done one (I did 5 HMs this year), but we're both considering making the time commitment to train for one when we turn 60, in 2015, G*d willing & the creek don't rise. We both like this movie and should watch it when we start training. Happy Thanksgiving!

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DAISYBELL6 11/21/2012 1:29PM

    I got this on Netflix last nite and absolutely loved it! Thanks for the heads up.

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ROSGETSSERIOUS 11/21/2012 10:53AM

    Thanks for the recommendation.

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FUNFROG79 11/21/2012 10:32AM

    One of my favorite movies ever!

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KARRENLYNN 11/20/2012 9:39PM

    Will definitely check out this movie. Thanks for sharing and have a Happy Thanksgiving!

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CAROLCRC 11/20/2012 7:46PM

    One of my favorite treadmill movies. Also look for Running on the Sun about the Badwater ultra.

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CHANGINGHORSES 11/20/2012 7:45PM

    I will have to check this out, it sounds very inspirational.


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ROXYZMOM 11/20/2012 6:07PM

    Thanks for the recommendation - I will check it out!

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DAPHNE_RUNS 11/20/2012 5:55PM

    Oooooooooo, this sounds like a "must see" movie. Thanks for suggesting it.

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-POLEDANCEGIRL- 11/20/2012 2:46PM

    I ran 2 full marathons. I am going to ahve to check this out

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HAYBURNER1969 11/20/2012 1:50PM

    I watched that movie for the first time just a few weeks ago. Definitely inspired me to commit more fully to getting back to Boston again. Very cool movie.

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BROOKLYN_BORN 11/20/2012 1:25PM

    I loved that movie and definitely admire those runners. I applaud all of you who put in the effort and reach your goal, including my daughters, but so far I've been immune to the "bug." I'm a great spectator though.

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ONMYMEDS 11/20/2012 1:06PM

    It was seeing this movie for the first time that sealed my decision to run a marathon. I watched it again a few months into my training, just to help reaffirm my commitment to the task. I would recommend this movie to runners and non runners alike. Thank you, Vic, for recommending this to those who have yet to see it, and for giving me the urge to watch it again.

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BUTTERFLY-1976 11/20/2012 12:48PM

    I'm gonna check it out. Thanks for the recommendation

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IFDEEVARUNS2 11/20/2012 12:11PM

    I'll check it out! I also loved the Hood to Coast movie. Have you seen it?

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PMRUNNER 11/20/2012 11:36AM

    Thanks for the recommendation, I will add it to my queue.

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SKINNYPOWELL1 11/20/2012 11:19AM

    emoticon I'll have to check it out, thanks.

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LIGHTNINGRUNNER 11/20/2012 11:00AM

    Sounds like a great movie.

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MAGGIE805 11/20/2012 10:48AM

    I bought a copy off of Amazon and watch it every once in awhile to boost the morale. Awesome documentary.

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RJSAMS 11/20/2012 10:30AM

    It's a good movie--I own a copy.

I also like Ultramarathon Man--the movie about Dean Karnazes' running 50 marathons in 50 days. The man is a machine!

There's also a good one on Netflix about 3 guys who ran across the Sahara desert. Forget the name, but it's worth watching.

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NATPLUMMER 11/20/2012 10:28AM

    I'll have to check it out.

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SEABREEZE65 11/20/2012 10:28AM

    I loved this movie! I should watch it again!!!

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LAURIE5658 11/20/2012 10:22AM

    Is that not the coolest movie ever? Only a runner would truly get the message and what a message it is!!!

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It's All About Me!

Saturday, November 17, 2012

I might need some help with my attitude. I am feeling I might be destined to be a slow runner and I am not happy with that.

I recovered (see, I, I, I, all about me. There will be lots of "I's" to follow) from my recent marathon just fine, I thought. But, in retrospect, I may have been too quick to start training. My ankle now is bothering me somewhat, but the foot is not.

Doing lots of research, I believe my ankle pain originates from the metatarsalgia related foot pain. Apparently, this pain will travel to the ankle with overuse.


I think "overuse" describes marathon training at the age of 66 (in 2 weeks), and that bums me out.

How to balance overtraining with training. I hate it. I love my long distance runs, I do them slowly with frequent walk breaks. I know I can DO a marathon. Slowly. But, I sure would like to be competitive in my AG. Okay, I really would like to be in the top half of my AG. Or win the top 3 in my AG. Or first.

So, I'm nursing my ankle pain. It's not bad, but I don't want to aggravate it. My schedule calls for a LR today. I won't do that. Going to buy an ACE foot brace later today, and do a LSR tomorrow.

I registered for my 2nd marathon, it's in February, and since registered I am obsessing about it. I am afraid I will be shattered if I don't beat my previous time. Just being honest. I had no post marathon blues last time, and do not want them this time.

So, I will try to suck it up, and be happy with what I get come February.

Just needed to vent a little bit, and I think it helped.

Thanks for reading and have a great day.

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SPEEDYDOG 11/22/2012 6:59AM

    I don't even know what it means to be fast or slow. I suppose it is all a matter of perspective. I am actually pretty fast. But long distance tends to elude me. I am all done at 10K.

I think you are doing extremely well. Slow and steady wins the race.

Thanks, Bruce

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SEABREEZE65 11/20/2012 8:36AM

    I sure hear you....
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts....

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PAPAMIKIE 11/19/2012 1:19PM

    I can not help much with the "I need to get fast!"

I started running late in my 50's and I was an accidental runner. I suspect I will never be very fast. My good fortune is that I became a Chi Runner, then a Tai Chi Chuan player, and Qigong practitioner and I learned to do all these things as a practice. It lead to a shift from goal orientation to process orientation. I take more pleasure in imporving my form and am less concerned with how far, how fast.

I have spent months learning to walk on a wobble beam, and now I am starting to walk it backward. I do some of my Qigong balanced on two beam. I am now doing part of my "Tree standing" Qigong on one foot at a time. I run using less leg muscle than I once did, and am working on getting my form cleaned up so that I can run all my runs in bear feet or at least deck shoes.

Tai Chi Chuan, Qigong and Chi Running have taught me to pay more attention to my body.

Good running and be careful out there.


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    Listen to your Ankle it will let you know. Be careful Ankles are tricky things...I couldn't walk on my foot and surprise - I tore the peroneal tendon on the outside of the foot...

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CHANGINGHORSES 11/18/2012 6:42PM

    Wow, I needed to read this blog! Thank you for writing it and thank everyone who responded to it! Sometimes I forget where I came from and how awesome I am today compared to what I was 4 years ago.
Yes, I think that we really need to give ourselves more credit for these accomplishments. I do however understand the competitive side of this and I want to win in my age group ALL THE TIME! If that is what keeps me in the race then so be it. If I don't place in my age group in this race, there will be another. I guess for me, that is the goal. I admit it, I love the medals!
I hope your ankle is on the mend and you accomplish what you want in February. Run Smart!

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WINDSURFNERD 11/18/2012 3:41PM

    You're an athlete, so it's not surprising that a "destiny as a slow runner" isn't inspiring to you. You've come a long way in a short time. Most (younger) folks wouldn't have survived the ramp-up from 5k to marathon in a year without breaking down. (as an example, I'm 51, a lifelong slow runner and I just finished my first HM, training VERY carefully!)

I've been running for a long time, long enough to have race results showing clearly that I'm slowing down. Is it the inevitable advance of age? Who wants to admit that? When I get bummed about the trend in my race standings I do a few things:
1) mentor a slower runner: I found a casual runner's group where I'm "fast" (more like "fast-ish"), watching my team-mates' efforts helps me appreciate where I am
2) join a training group: I did my HM training with others who take their running more was easy to be "fast" in that company. I also took a class in "speed drills" where I actually improved my times
3) run a small race: the big races are fun and well-run but they attract many elite runners. Small races have less competition. I'm a solid mid-packer in big races, but I can get near the top 25% of AG in a smaller race.

I found Amby Burfoot's article in Runner's World inspiring, comforting, affirming. Maybe you will too:

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RUNNERKDB 11/17/2012 10:04PM

    Have you seen a sports medicine doc or a physical therapist for an actual diagnosis? I have found that I really need to address issues right away to keep myself from really starting to hurt. i have found this out the hard way! Running a marathon is a huge accomplishment. In terms of speed my experience is that is does not come without speed work. Take care! Karen emoticon

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NWFL59 11/17/2012 9:33PM

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DAPHNE_RUNS 11/17/2012 6:36PM

    I had a similar conversation with myself on my long run this morning; mine was about me being an "average runner". See you need to have average runners to set the base for slow and fast runners. I know I was a minute faster this time last year for my long runs....why am I getting slower? I think I am afraid of getting hurt.

Vic, like every runner, you will have to experiment with your training and recovery and the only way to do so is through trial and error. So keep trying until you find your right formula. Good luck with marathon #2 training.

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KANDOLAKER 11/17/2012 5:16PM

    Very good blog and I completely understand! It is certainly okay to want to be better, and it is frustrating when our legs won't move as quickly as we'd like. Keep pushing and I guess just remind ourselves to appreciate the opportunity to run (at any speed) - and injuries always help to remind us of that. All the best to you - Kathy

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MASRITE 11/17/2012 4:45PM

    Wow, you're doing another one!! You go guy! I'll be here, cheering you on. emoticon

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PMRUNNER 11/17/2012 2:16PM

    Vic, don't forget that it is supposed to be fun!

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WONDERWOMAN 11/17/2012 1:40PM

    I feel your pain, Vic - literally. I've waxed on and on about my ankle pain so won't repeat it here, but yes it is so very frustrating trying to figure out what is the right way to approach the running, recovery, training.... I get exactly what you are saying about the competitiveness too. I started this year out completely confident I would break the 2 hour HM mark and next year was to be the year of the FULL for me. Instead, my time keeps getting worse and I've abandoned thoughts of training for a full in 2013. I'm now at the point of trying to at least consider I may have to slow down considerably (and maybe never do a full). But I will do that if I can keep running these races....time will tell.

Hey, look at all the "I"s in my reply. Sorry, this should have been about you, but it kinda is - just relating it to my own experience. Trying to say....just be smart and don't push so hard you can't continue to enjoy this great sport. Sometimes we have to slow down our overachieving selves.

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MARATHONDAD 11/17/2012 11:50AM

    buddy slow or not what u have accomplished is amazing. I know People have your age that would kill for a time even closed to yours. the fact that u have run a full is amazing insteading of looking at the negative look at the positive give yourself a huge pat on the back. like i have said many times u are very inspirational and I look up to you as a running role model

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ONMYMEDS 11/17/2012 11:22AM


Youíre right, there are a lot of ďIísĒ here, but I have yet to figure out a way to talk about oneself without using them. Itís just nice to see that Iím not the only one who is aware of this.

Itís hard to say whether you took enough time off from running after your marathon. As with so many other things related to running, everyone has different requirements for achieving the same results. I have seen suggestions of from one week up to three weeks, with little or no running recommended during that time. Iím sure there are those who take no time at all, and others who take a month or more. I think most people just KNOW when they are ready to go again. I took less than a week after my marathon, and had no ill effects at all.

Or rather, nothing more than usual. At our age, it seems there is always SOMETHING that hurts or twinges or feels a bit off. Itís a constant battle to determine which ache or pain or twinge can be ignored and which needs to be monitored and possibly dealt with more comprehensively.

Since we are both breaking new ground here, itís very hard to find that balance between enough training and overtraining. How do we know what the limit is if weíve never been there before? Iíve found that the more I run, the more I CAN run and the faster I get. It has taken a year to see this improvement, but we need to remember that progress in running takes months and years, not hours or days. And the progress is measured in relatively small increments of minutes and seconds.

The age group thing is a bit tricky. We both obviously like being competitive in our AG and in fact have seen some rewards already. At the same time, we must remember that sometimes we will be competing against runners who started in high school and have been doing this for decades. That doesnít make it any easier when we are further down the results list, but it is an explanation. I suppose we can take a little satisfaction knowing that they are probably slower than they used to be, and we are faster than we were.

We also need to remind ourselves to be thankful that we are participating at all, and to not let the competitiveness take away the enjoyment of the activity. Remember, it wasnít all that long ago that neither of us was running AT ALL.

You have come a long way in a short time, my friend. Be proud of what you have already accomplished and know that you will get even better.

Best of luck in the future, and for goodness sakes, stay off the damn motorcycle before the next marathon. Or watch where youíre going.

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FANGFACEKITTY 11/17/2012 9:45AM

    Us slow runners have time to appreciate the scenery more lol.

You are not a slow runner, certainly not by my definition. I have 25 less years than you and can't begin to approach your times.

And isn't the important part that you can do it at all? And faster than many people much younger than yourself.

When I was training for my timed 2 mile run for karate my running coach said 2 things will make you faster on the distances....running long distances (which you already do) and alternating the long runs with speed intervals. Damned if he wasn't right (guess that's why he was the coach!). So maybe you can mix up your training plan a bit to incorporate one day of speed work a week. You still get your total miles but they are much more intense with brief breaks between sprints.

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KNEWMETODAY 11/17/2012 9:31AM

    At 67, I'm just glad I can log 10,000 steps during the day...I have no desire to do a marathon...and the old, arthritic knees just wouldn't take it!

Good luck!


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ROXYZMOM 11/17/2012 9:29AM

    Focus on the enjoyment and excitement of it instead of worrying about beating your time. If you love what you are doing, it will fall into place as you train.

PS It is a good idea that you are nursing your ankle now so you will be able to run it in February - better to run slower than not at all!

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Savannah Rock N Roll posted runners results wrong.

Sunday, November 11, 2012

I have been checking on my 3rd place win every couple of days, because I know sometimes errors can be made. It seems someone got left out of the marathon race results, and has since been added. That runner knocked me down to 4th place!! Kind of disappointed, 'cuz I told all my family and friends that I had won 3rd place. I thought the odds were pretty slim that they would make an error, but sure enough they did. I hope they don't find any more runners and put me further down the list. :)

Anyway, I wll NOT be getting any trophys in the mail!

Anyone who saw my results will now see a new name on top of mine. That's okay, I thought I was really lucky that so few AG runners raced this one anyway.

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BROOKLYN_BORN 11/13/2012 8:54AM

    I missed this because I was focusing on the Richmond marathon over the weekend. It stinks when the final results work against you. I want hardware too!! But as others have said, you have every reason to be very proud of yourself. A side note: My daughter for the first time was one of those phantom runners missing from the live results. After the 13.1 time check, she disappeared from my feed. I was frantic that she was in the medical tent. No, the chip failed, just like it did at the expo. There it took 3 tries for them to get it to work. 3:08 final time, but this Mama was relieved just to see that everything was OK. Whew!

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FANGFACEKITTY 11/12/2012 1:25PM

    You did fabulous regardless of what place you came in. age and just a number anyway, right? You've done something most other people have never and will never do (let alone those in your AG)!

It is a bummer though that they made that mistake.

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LIGHTNINGRUNNER 11/12/2012 10:45AM

    It is all good - you did awesome and no matter what you are a emoticon winner in my books.

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MAGGIE101857 11/12/2012 6:33AM

    You earned a medal no matter where you placed!!! emoticon

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RUN_BAKE_BLOG 11/12/2012 12:16AM!
Phantom runners stink!
You ran a great race, and I wish I had a trophy for you!!

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PMRUNNER 11/11/2012 8:17PM

    You did great and we are proud of you no matter what place you come in!

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DAPHNE_RUNS 11/11/2012 7:37PM

    I know how you feel this happened to me too a year ago. I was running the Doral 5k, right down the street from my house. The way they posted the results, it looked like I finished in 3rd place....nope. No biggie, I am still so proud of your finish, Vic. Running a marathon is a HUGE accomplishment.

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WONDERWOMAN 11/11/2012 6:58PM

    Something about those Georgia runs, I was knocked out of my "placing" three times last winter (shorter races, but still.....) FOURTH IS FABULOUS!!!! In a full marathon!!! I agree, you are first in our book!

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NATPLUMMER 11/11/2012 6:54PM

    You still did fabulously!!

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MASRITE 11/11/2012 6:52PM

    emoticon emoticon I think you deserve a trophy!! So, here's a trophy and a ribbon. You're #1 in my book!!

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