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Measurments VS Scale

Tuesday, March 30, 2010

I really have a fixation on the scale and what it tells me. I tell myself it is only a small piece of the puzzle. For me the tape measurements are the heavy hitters of my main goals. So far it has been very kind to me showing the inches are melting away. However the scale is like a parent and I need its approval and validation showing me "Good Job Chuck" with its pat on my back. But sometimes the scale backhands you screaming "bad boy"!! Today is a good example of measurements vs scale. I weighed in this morning and the scale shows only 1 lbs lost!! Very discouraging since I have logged in over 1640 fitness minutes so far this month, that included C25K every other day plus other cardio and strength exercises. That is an average of 56 min. per day if I worked out every day and since I do cardio every other day I average 110 min. at each workout. My workouts are moderate to vigorous.
Now for the encouraging part; the tape measurements: Difference from 03/23/10 to 03/29/10
Waist: Loss 2.25 in.
Hips: Loss 0.50 in.
Neck: Loss 0.50 in.
Thigh: Loss 0.50 in.
Bicep: Loss 0.50 in. (Plan to add muscle later)
Calf: Increase 1.00 in. ( Maybe the running C25K increased?)
Net total for the week inches: Loss 3.25 in.

Since I started my diet, 1/1/10, and exercise program I have lost, as of 3/29/10, an aggragate total of: 22.25 ins. and 35 lbs.
Therefore I should like the tape measurements better? But I am still hooked on the validation of that SCALE!!!
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TNEWELL26 2/1/2012 6:48PM

Thanks for telling me about this blog. It is nice to know that I am not the only one who has found their self in this situation. My ultimate measurement will be when I fit into my favorite pair of Levis. I intend to try them on at the end of March. I am seriously considering not using the scales again. I have type I (Juvenile) diabetes and go to the doctor about every four months. I always get weighed at the appointments and I am thinking that for me that will be enough of the scales. I will continue to take my other measurements every month. Best wishes and thanks again.

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BESEENU52 6/13/2010 12:24PM

    LOL! Hi! i just read your blog about your scale! and you put it soooo well! i know exactly what you mean; that scale of mine must be related to your scale cuz sometimes; i don't know; it is not very supportive of the exercise or food intake that i work so hard to keep track of! LOL!

wishing you continued success!! one pound at a time!!

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MUNCHIEMAGS 4/2/2010 11:58PM

    I think you're doing a great job . . and I'm not a bit biased just because you're my husband! Really, you are doing great. You look better & you're getting stronger & building a lot of endurance . . . as I type this you are finishing up on the treadmill. Don't worship the scale . . . I can SEE how well you're doing. Love you.

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SIZE5MOTIVATED 4/1/2010 9:25PM

    I did that for a looooonnng time, that darn scale is a bi*** (most of the time!) Don't worry about it, youre doing great! All that exercising & eating healthy is doing wonders for you & youre heading straight to youre goals, all that exercising is just building up hidden muscle! Not to mention, i needed to remind myself was: "A Watched Pot Never Boils" well, youre scale is pretty much taunting you like everyones does & doing that exact same thing. Just forget about it for a little while & focus on youre exercising, eating & family &/or friends. Maybe you should try & only look at the scale every 2 weeks "just for a little bit". Youre realy impressive by keeping up youre persiverance & i hope i can do the same, i'm right there with you & my stupid "backhanding scale! LOL." We can do it, let's just keep on trying! emoticon emoticon

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Cheat Day's A Sabotage??

Friday, February 19, 2010

I found this title on one of the message boards. I believe it is a haunting question that plagues a great percentage of dieters. I believe that cheat days are a sabotage of eating habits I have been trying diligently to build for a future lifestyle change. If I "cheat" with food I am trying to put in my past it is akin to an alcoholic falling off the wagon to take one drink/s on a predetermined day. One cheat day leads to another, and more often than not it leads to another then another...and then we're back on the food merry-go-round. I have been down this road to many times. I am certainly no puritan because I will cheat from time to time, but I will not set up an actual regular weekly cheat day. There is one exception however, see last paragraph)
When I hit my goal, and I will, I will go out and have an In-N-Out burger (maybe 2,3,4...??) At that time I will be on my 10,000+ mile motorcycle road trip. While in California I need an infusion of In-N-Out Burgers (Double-Doubles). The restaurant is not located in Oregon (thankfully for me). I am reserving my cheat "time" for May 7, 2010 in Redding CA. on Dana Ave. However if I have not reached by goal by then I will have to ride on by, and it will be painful. Last year I was able to eat plenty of Double-Double burgers on my road trip and after 30 days I still lost 5 lbs. The road trip was grueling and took a lot of energy. The problem is when I got back from the trip I forgot to get back on the "diet wagon". However when I get back off coming trip I will have to put my man-pants(the ones that have willpower) back on the "Diet wagon" and "Fitness-Wagon" routine.

Equals TROUBLE!!!

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MUNCHIEMAGS 4/2/2010 11:59PM

    The best burger joint in the world. . . bar none.

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KAYAKID 2/19/2010 9:42PM

    Its very important to have goals! go for it. You can do it!


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JUDITH1654 2/19/2010 9:15PM

    It's good to have a goal. Just keep your eyes focused on the prize!! emoticon

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Heart Rate Monitor...sequel

Tuesday, February 16, 2010

Today I did another test, my HRM vs Gym Equipment. First of all I need to explain that I have set-up my monitor with all my personal statistics, age, weight....etc. My BMR is 2073 calories/day.

My first test was, 70 minutes, on the recumbent bike. I am doing interval training, where my fat burning range is at 60% 116 bpm to 80% 136 bpm. My maximum bpm is 140. For the entire workout I would not let my bpm go below 120 with a high of 155 bpm. The bike HRM and my personal HRM were generally at or near the same reading of bpm's.
The results: Recumbent bike showed 442 calories burned and my HRM showed 1112 calories burned. That is a difference of 670 calories! This is a major difference.
I decided to discuss the problem with the Manager/Master Trainer of my 24 Hour fitness. I ask him, should I believe the gym machine calories or my HRM? He immediately said "Do not trust the equipment reading". I told him that there is a reading difference of 620 calories. He, being the salesmen he is, as me if I was wearing the BodyBugg? I told him I was wearing a multi-function HRM "The Sharper Image All-In-One" along with a chest strap and wrist band that shows I burned 1112 calories in 70 minutes of interval training on the recumbent bike. He quickly indicated my HRM was wrong. He said he runs the "Bootcamp" at my 24Hour fitness where he works the members hard for 60 minutes. He said they barely reach a 500 calorie burn. My reply to him, from my research on SparkPeople, that the strength exercises he includes in the workout does not reflect an accurate calorie burn. The main calorie burn is from aerobic exercise. He somewhat agreed with me but then He proceeded to tell me that the BodyBugg calculates it readings from body stats, body heat, moisture, heart rate...etc and plugs it all in a formula that is 92% accurate. I indicated to him that I worked out continuously on cardio for 70 minutes from moderate to vigorous. It would be understandable that my 70 minute workout should show higher calorie burn than his bootcamp program had a mix of strength and cardio. Basically the conversation ended there with nothing resolved about my situation. I told him I would check further into the BodyBugg or similar brands that purport to do the same.
My quandary is, do I take my HRM back for a refund and get a more expensive one such as the BodyBugg, Polar, Gamin....etc. I would hope that my current HRM is calibrated properly as compared to other brands on the market.

I would like to hear from anyone if they have tried to do a similar test as I have preformed. If you have worked out on a piece of equipment with a readout of BPM and Calorie counter and compared them to your HRM.

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BANKER-CHUCK 2/17/2010 11:39AM

    Great advice. One thing I did not mention in my Blog is I did work out on the treadmill for 17 min. where the equipment showed 59 calories and my HRM showed 223 calories. Thanks for your comments they are helpful.

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KEAKMAN 2/17/2010 8:46AM

    Chuck, I agree with Coach Jen - try another piece of equipment. But I still side with the HRM. Folks will tell you that you CAN'T be burning more than 10 calories per minute. (which, by the way, would give you 700 for your workout, not the 442 the bike said) I know that for me I can get 14 or even 15 calories per minute on the elliptical - which would be close to your 1112.

I only know of one person who owns a Body Bugg, which she loves, but I don't know how it compares to another HRM - I don't think she had a different one before the BB. She is LLTS01, and you might want to chat with her.

If you like your HRM there is no reason to ditch it in favor of a more expensive model. I say keep it and have fun using it!

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SPARK_COACH_JEN 2/17/2010 6:01AM

    Hi Chuck

Have you tried other activities while wearing the HRM? Do they give the same kind of results?

I'd agree that the calories burned info it's giving you sounds extremely high, and probably not accurate. But it's hard to know for sure.

I'd try doing a few different kinds of workouts before deciding whether or not it needs to go back to the store.

Coach Jen

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Heart Rate Monitors..What to believe.

Wednesday, February 10, 2010

I don't think this will be Blog cheating? But here is a comment I made on a Message Board under Nutrition and Fitness regarding Heart Rate Monitors. The following is some of my observations along with a SparkMail I received from Kara. (Hopefully Kara you don't mind me using your email to me). The post and conversations as follows:

02/10/10 10:29 AM, My Post on Nutrition & Fitness Board, "Heart Rate Monitor": I am on my 3rd day with my new HRM. I am not convinced I like it that well, but it does seem to work well. Yesterday I decided I would wear it for 24 hours just to see how many calories would register. With a 45 min. "fat burn zone 2" workout, and a few strength exercises the monitor shows 5454 calories burned. May be a little more since I found the monitor not registering from time to time. The chest strap I had to make sure it was damp as to keep a good contact. Plus I don't if contact was complete throughout the night while sleeping.
From this day forward I will use it for work-out only since the chest strap tends to become a little uncomfortable after a while. The monitor is from The Sharper Image All-In-One and only cost $39.99 from Costco. I wanted to get a lesser expensive model to see if I would be committed to using it. I may step up later for a more expensive on, Polor F6, or BodyBugg, when I know I am in full commitment.

02/10/10 SparkMail from Kara:
---------- KARAMARIE27 wrote: ----------

My name is Kara. I read your response about your Heart Rate Monitor registering over 5,000 calories burned. I bought one and felt like it was lying to me. I went for a hike that spark people would consider a 600 cal burn, but my HRM registered over 1000. Should I be wearing it all day and be trying to hit a particular calorie burn instead of just for workouts? I'm so confused by the thing :)

Thank you,

02/10/10 My response to Kara: Kara I am no expert on the HRM but I am learning as I go. Yesterday I found a similar calorie burn situation you found. I rode the recumbent bike for 42 minutes yesterday. I noted the calorie counter showed 900 before starting my workout and ended at 1400, showing a calorie burn of 500 where the recumbent bike showed 250 calories burned and sparkpeople gives me over 700 calories. My conclusion is I will use the calorie count from my machine for the exercise itself. Since your body burns calories by just sitting around or going about daily chores may count for the additional calories over 250. Today I will do the same workout but will start the calorie counter at "0". What ever I come up with as a count I will try to justify by doing more research.
Finally to answer your question about wearing it all day, I personally don't think it is necessary on a continuous basis unless it is a critical for health reasons. . As long as I stick to my diet, calorie intake and cardio exercise I should make progress. But by wearing the monitor for a full 24 hours did give me a baseline to work from. I took the HRM calorie count and subtracted the workout calories of 250 to come up with my baseline. In this case my baseline is around 4800 calories. Any workout calories I have I will add to that figure. At this time I am not confident I will use the HRM on a continuous basis in the far future, but will continue in the near future to make sure I am in a fat burning zone. The treadmill and recumbent bike both have heart rate monitors that match my HRM. The gym equipment I am confident that the machine will show me the fat burning zone I need to be. My HRM will be a great help on equipment that does not have a heart rate monitor.

The bottom line for me: The most reliable tools I have found is the bathroom scale and a tape measure. They don't lie.


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KEAKMAN 2/10/2010 9:16PM

    I love my HRM. It is designed to monitor your heart rate and to estimate your calorie burn while exercising, but it is not designed to tell you how many calories you burn all day (I'll get to that in a moment). The more questions you have to answer in setting it up, the more accurate the calorie burn. Mine knows I am a 46 year old woman, weighing in at 204, it has measured my resting HR and calculated my max HR. I trust what it says over the machine at the gym, which is designed for an "average" person, even if it asks you your age and gender and weight. I also trust it over Spark, because it actually knows how hard my heart was working on that workout.

I found that prior to having my HRM I was working too hard. That's right, too hard. If you get up to one level, you are burning calories, but not really doing anything for your cardio-vascular health. At the higher level (up to 85% of your max - I think) you are improving your cardio fitness. Above that, your body is really just trying to keep you alive. If you are near to your max, you body assumes you are running from a lion or dinosaur, or else fighting with an NFL linebacker. Fight or flight mode. So your body is just doing it's best to keep you alive. Not burn calories (which you are, but not efficiently) and CERTAINLY not improving your cardio fitness.

Now that my dratted HRM beeps at me if I am working too hard, I find that I can exercise longer, it is more enjoyable, I don't feel like I am dying (although I AM working my fanny off!), and my overall fitness is improving. SO listen to what it is telling you, and back off (or ramp it up) as needed.

I, too, thought "wouldn't it be cool to wear my HRM all day to see how many calories I burn?!" But the problem is, your HRM is designed for exercise, not daily living. You are going to get too high of a reading. I learned this when my daily "burn" was in the 5000-6000 range according to my HRM. So I ate accordingly. NO weight loss. Finally talked to a nutritionist and we had my basal metabolic rate tested. Found out that I lose 2000 calories per day just living and hauling my body around. Burn another 300 to 800 when exercising. So I need 2500ish to maintain. To lose a pound a week, I have to cut 500 calories per day, or 2000 total. Two pounds a week drops my caloric intake to 15000 per day.

Sorry this is turning out so long, and you didn't even ask me this question! Feel free to delete it and then smack me upside the head!

ANYWAY, I think HRMs are more accurate for learning how hard you are working and how many calories you are burning WHILE WORKING OUT. Different HRMs have different capabilities, so yours may have more whistles than mine. Or less. But I think they are great tools!

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CHRSLVSBKS 2/10/2010 3:53PM

    I may purchase a HRM. I would like to know how many calories I burn while working out.

Thank you for your post on the HRM. I will take it into consideration.

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RDARLING 2/10/2010 3:32PM

    I've wanted to get one but struggle with the cost of them. I would mainly use it for P90X workouts. I'll have to check back to your blog or check out that message board for additional comments!

Thanks for sharing!

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Back in the swing of things

Sunday, February 07, 2010

Back to my regular workout routine after a short illness period. But with a few small changes. I have added another 45 min to my cardio workout. I have increased from 30 min. up to 75 min. I plan on adding more minutes later to round it off to 90 min. I may add in about 15 min. of circuit traing starting this Monday. Wish there was a good way to track the calories burned.
Hopefully my scales will show more results....soon!!

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BANKER-CHUCK 2/8/2010 12:27PM

    I have purchased a HRM, The Sharper Image. I come with a chest strap, wrist band and a bike mount. Bought it for $40 from Costco. I will try it for a while to see if I can make a commitment to wear it on a continuous basis. I am doing mostly cardio for the 25 lbs I want to lose, so from what I have read the HRM will be best to track calories burned. I am adding this week about 1 hour of circuit workout where the HRM will not do much good but at least I will know I am building strength which equals higher metabolism. Now I need to just learn how to use the HRM effectively.

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KEAKMAN 2/8/2010 7:50AM

    A basic heart rate monitor would help you track your calories. You can find them from under $100 to over $400 - depending on what you want and what you do. In general I found that Spark underestimates the calories I burn, so I go with what my HRM tells me. Circuit training, or ANY strength training, is good to do - add in more muscle to burn that fat!

Keep up the good work!

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JUDITH1654 2/8/2010 1:24AM

    Sounds like you're doing great! The Body Bugg (I hear) is excellent in tracking calories burned, but it isn't cheap...which is why I don't have it! LOL

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