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Manatee Gray...Offensive?Friday, April 05, 2013
So I heard on Bob & Tom (radio show) this morning about this story. Apparently someone was greatly offended because they saw the color name "manatee gray" on Target's plus-size clothing. Now Target's scrambling to fix this marketing snafu. ![]()
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NAYPOOIE
4/8/2013 1:11PM
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What FLOWERDALEJEWEL said.
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JORDANLHALL
4/7/2013 3:12AM
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Man. I think people will get up and arms about anything these days. Forget the shenanigans going on in North Korea, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, or Somalia... someone at Target came up with a possibly offensive color for a plus size clothing item! Haha personally I like manatees. They're cute and cuddly. But that's neither here nor there. It does, however, reveal a slightly scary perspective into our culture's ideas of body image and how things like this can be so consciously accepted that snafu's like this happen thoughtlessly - or worse, as a natural reflex whether the intention was meant or not. And perhaps the reaction to it has more meaning than the original snafu in that regard. My personal opinion... who cares? But that's just me. Interesting story, though. Report Inappropriate Comment |


JAYNINNE
4/6/2013 5:24PM
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I, too, think people are way too sensitive these days. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I'm tired of one person complaining and then everything has to be changed because that one person was offended. "Manatee" is the name of a Crayola crayon color. I think it's a far more descriptive color name than "Heather gray". What does "Heather gray" mean anyway? We're turning into a nanny state, here. Is no one capable of self-regulation? Report Inappropriate Comment |


SIMONEKP
4/6/2013 1:19PM
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People are way too sensitive and companies cave too easily.
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KITT52
4/6/2013 9:02AM
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personally I always loved the manatees, thought they looked so peaceful and happy floating in the water catching some sun....in fact I have a t-shirt from Florida that is grey.....with a manatee on the front..
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FLOWERDALEJEWEL
4/6/2013 5:19AM
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People need to get a life, stupidity should be painful Report Inappropriate Comment |


POMATOJUICE
4/5/2013 9:42PM
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That's crazy! The whole situation is dumb, but I think it's easier to get offended with issues that are sensitive to us. And I know that having shopped in the plus size section for quite a few years, I probably would have gotten offended at that! The fact that it's say.. a descriptive name for a pantone color or whatever is not offensive. If it's the same shade as a manatee, then manatee grey it is! The fact that they slapped that on clothing is kind of silly, though. That being said.. I thought heather grey was used to refer to grey clothes with that streaky white in it like a sweatshirt? Like you can have heather purple, etc. If the dress was the same solid grey shade and called heather in the smaller size and manatee in the larger, that's just kinda... lol. I mean, it's bad but at the same time it's hard not to laugh and feel like maybe you are going to hell for laughing. :X You know what always kind of made me angry? Skinny Cow. It's like.. you want some diet sweets so you can be skinny, cow? But... it's tasty, so I buy it anyway :/ I realize they are going for the whole, "Our treats are so guilt-free they are only made from SKINNY cows therefore you will be skinny!!," But I don't know if cow should be on anything other than beef. XD Report Inappropriate Comment |


GETSTRONGRRR
4/5/2013 9:01PM
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Manatees are graceful aquatic beasts.....I secretly want to be one! I've Gatorskin tires on my bike, a Rhino skin case for my iPod, and SWMBo still has a very chic pair of Elephant pants leftover from the 70s that she breaks out every now and then Report Inappropriate Comment |


ALIHIKES
4/5/2013 7:32PM
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What is offensive is calling plus size gray dress "manatee gray" and regular size gray dress in the exact same style exact same color "heather gray". Huffington Post showed photos of the gray dresses -- they ARE the same color. (Target explained two different buyers bought for the different departments and named the colors differently)
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SGRAY478
4/5/2013 7:17PM
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I think people grossly over-react to everything. Seriously. The world has become so PC and people are so sue happy, it is absolutely ridiculous.
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BATCHICK
4/5/2013 6:08PM
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I love manatees. That's all I have to contribute here. Report Inappropriate Comment |


BEECHNUT13
4/5/2013 5:18PM
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I think it's become too cool to be offended all the time. When people say "I'm offended" all I think is "Well, I'm not in charge of your feelings!" I also hear my older son, when he was younger say anything and everything "hurt my feelings..." Wow... big deal. Get the eff over it. Being offended is like the societal version of the hipster beard. It's gross. (And the media just hops right on board...) Report Inappropriate Comment |


NOTLIKEMCLOVIN
4/5/2013 5:15PM
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I don't know that it was intentionally offensive but it's not like larger women are exactly treated with respect. We live in a patriarchal society where women are too often judged by their value as pretty things, so women that don't adhere to society's ideal are, consciously or unconsciously, treated as lesser. It's a way of forcing women to toe the line. So while it may be unintentional, we live in a world where it's an entirely valid question to ask. Okay, rant over. Report Inappropriate Comment |


EVASTANKIEWICZ
4/5/2013 5:15PM
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The first I heard of this was that the person was mad because the shirt or whatever it was in the plus size was called manatee grey, but a similar shirt in the non plus sizes was called heather grey. Personally I think the colors must be different, even just slightly different, and that's why they have different color names. And with you saying that Target used the manatee grey in other items only confirms my thinking. But maybe that's just my thinking.
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1CRAZYDOG
4/5/2013 4:42PM
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Well, the best way to show displeasure is . . . don't buy it! It could have the connotation of being offensive, but again. . . just my opinion . . . don't buy it. Have to wonder what marketing genius though up the color name. Not too brilliant to come up with a name that is even potentially offensive to your target audience. So be it! HUGS Report Inappropriate Comment |


STSCOTT11
4/5/2013 4:39PM
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I didn't read the link...but here's the crazy part...I HEARD ALL ABOUT it! The word GETS AROUND. Hoping we're talking about the same story... Heather gray for the smaller sizes...and Manatee gray for the plus sizes. Am I personally offended...not really. BUT I DO GET IT. I don't like the feeling of being treated DIFFERENTLY as a big woman. WHY? Cause I have BEEN THERE. I would go through looking at clothes and thinking...WOW! That's SO CUTE. When it came to it being IN MY SIZE...it was no where to be found. WHY? Cause they didn't see fit to MAKE IT IN MY SIZE. I think sometimes we can be a little sensitive cause of our size for different reasons...and we have to work on it. BUT...let's face it American culture and the media are hard on big women. They make sure you don't get it twisted. Small sizes are beautiful sexy and desirable. Big sizes are suppose to be comfortable, suitable and as good as the smaller sizes but never really measure up. I believe WOMEN are THE ONES who take it to heart when it comes to SIZE. THAT IS NOTHING NEW. We are the ones who take clothes SERIOUSLY...that includes not wanting to take on what FEELS LIKE something snide by way of naming different SIZES DIFFERENT NAMES. Target should have BEEN MORE WISE. Taget could have been a little more CONSIDERATE of their customers. We wouldn't even know WHAT they're talking about if somewhere in the midst of NOT ever wanting to seem like we are too sensitive or lacking self esteem that NOTHING bothers us when it comes to the difference in how bigger and smaller clothes are portrayed and marketed. If we really bought in that bigger was just as good or better...there would be SUPER PLUS SIZE MODELS. JMO And please don't tell me there are...I am talking Naomi Campbell SUPER STARDOM, Tyra Banks making DOLLARS...not the fact they exist. Tisk. Tisk. Bad Target. BAD BAD TARGET. Comment edited on: 4/5/2013 4:45:19 PM Report Inappropriate Comment |


DUCKY2222
4/5/2013 4:38PM
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It's only a color, they were not saying "Hey Lady you are the size of a Manatee so this is all we have for you" People need to get a grip. What people should be complaining about is that most plus size clothes are just frumpy and ugly period.
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PRETTYPITHY
4/5/2013 4:05PM
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I don't think political correctness sucks -- I think it is an important badge of polite discourse in a civilized society. That sad, this is a bit absurd. It's not like it is insensitive to the "manatee community." Report Inappropriate Comment |


DAUGHTEROFTWIN
4/5/2013 3:59PM
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An across the board color is not meant to be insensitive. Probably some Eco-savvy marketing guy who thought manatees are a good cause and would make a nice color name sake.
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SPASTASTIC
4/5/2013 3:53PM
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People get offended so easily about everything nowadays so I'm not surprised. Now if there was a plus sized shirt that said "pig pink" then that'd be offensive.
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A*L*P*
4/5/2013 3:51PM
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Political correctness sucks. Just saying.
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LAILATN
4/5/2013 3:49PM
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I honestly don't think I would have thought that was offensive. I think manatees are really cool! :) Maybe I'm naive.
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VHALKYRIE
4/5/2013 3:49PM
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That goes beyond facepalm into full on faceplant!
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Last night I had my first fast food meal in almost 3 months. I usually go to my parents house once a week to watch Justified (season finale last night...AWWWESOMEsauce!). Usually I budget my calories because I know they end up cooking stuff a little higher in calories/carbs/sodium than I do. But last night they decided to get Captain D's instead since my dad had a doctor's appointment. My parents do not get fast food much, so this was unusual for them too.
I could have went there and ate something different. But you know what? Fish sounded good. It wasn't ridiculously unreasonable in nutrition as long as I was careful. I ended up eating 2 pieces of battered fish, a half-cup of green beans, half a serving of fries, and a stuffed crab shell. And even a tablespoon of ketchup (I used to be the Ketchup queen, so I was most concerned about this). And it was delicious. And yes, I wanted more at the end, but I waited. I kept the plate in front of me and said if in 20 minutes I wanted another piece of fish, I'd get it and not stress about it. And at the end of the 20 minutes, the fish sounded tasty, but I was satisfied enough that I was just "Eh, nevermind."
I didn't go crazy and dive into the box of fries. I didn't grab the fish with my mouth and growl at their cat when she advanced to battle me for it. This morning, I didn't go buckwild and hit up the McD's drive-thru, stuffing my bra with bacon, egg, and cheese biscuits for breakfast and daytime snacks.
What I'm trying to say is, it wasn't the end of the world because I indulged. Or that I didn't think the food was disgusting. And I felt fine afterwards. Other than some sodium bloat, I was perfectly OK other than being exhausted. But I was that way before I ate it.
I think my body understands now that it's OK for me to eat some crazy stuff now and then, but I need to be reasonable about it and make an effort to eat slowly and make some smart choices if I can. Like the half-serving of fries. And even though I want more, I've gotten smart enough to say "Calm down, it isn't like this is the last piece of battered Captain Ds fish you will ever see."
I'm not saying it's SUPER easy. But it's a heck of a lot easier than it was three months ago. I've learned that as long as I don't let myself get too hungry, have backup/prepared meals and go-to snacks, and I try to plan for unusual meals, then I'm going to be a lot less likely to snap up some fast food. But if I do, it really is OK. I may have to nudge my body in the right direction, but it is not my enemy. We can reach a compromise.
So this? MAJOR progress. I'm not saying I will never eat fast food again ever or act like a pig at some point, but my hope is that as long as I stay the course, it will be the 20% rather than the 80% of my diet.
Never give up! Never surrender!


SIMONEKP
4/6/2013 1:17PM
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awesome job!
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CLPURNELL
4/5/2013 11:20PM
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Awesome Job! Report Inappropriate Comment |


POMATOJUICE
4/5/2013 2:06PM
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This is a great post!! I live your way of looking at things, and it seems like the healthiest possible attitude to have towards fast food. It's not the devil, moderation is king, etcetc. Way to go!
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AMY4593
4/5/2013 11:52AM
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I applaud your will power of not saying Screw it and eating the whole thing!! I don't want to live in a world where you can't occasionally have some fast food!! But I am sure your coworkers are happy your bra isn't filled with Mickey D's!! LOL
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JENSTRESS
4/5/2013 11:46AM
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First, to add to the people, NICE WORK! Second, THAT is the way to eat! When you make your goal weight, you will still have to do this (as will I) but like another poster said, THIS is very likely how people who never struggle with weight issues eat ALL the time!!! I could have written this myself, it was relatable. Sunday (easter) I ate some candy and treats. It was DELISH. You know what though? I left it to that day. I was done. I'm back on track. I think that is the first step to really enjoying the moderation and weight loss. Allowing yourself a splurge or even a screw-up day (because they happen, even though yours wasn't a screw up, or even much of a splurge - calorie wise!) but not letting it derail all of your progress! Way to go. Report Inappropriate Comment |


LOLATURTLE
4/5/2013 11:40AM
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I'm glad you were able to enjoy your fried fish reasonably, along with Timothy Elephant. Who is unreasonably enjoyable. I have had that experience more and more - with fast food, with holiday stuff, etc. It is a great feeling! Plus I love that you make the point that this doesn't mean you are "cured" and you'll never overeat again in your life. Also important to recognize! I unknowingly joined you yesterday. I was traveling for work which meant lunch out. I was going to get soup and salad, or a small veggie omelet, but one of the lunch specials was chicken and a biscuit and it sounded SO. GOOOOD. And it was. SO GOOOOD. I enjoyed every single bite without overeating (I didn't eat the Mount St. Potato that was provided underneath) and my dinner was reasonable so I was within range even with my Big Bad Lunch. ahhhhh! My theory is that this is how Normal People (by which I mean, people who have never had a weight problem) eat all the time. They sometimes eat a big meal or high calorie foods, but then they naturally eat less later without thinking about it. Report Inappropriate Comment |


BRANDNEWBUFFY
4/5/2013 10:11AM
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'And even though I want more, I've gotten smart enough to say "Calm down, it isn't like this is the last piece of battered Captain Ds fish you will ever see." ' This is so on the money and worth repeating over and over again when you are in that situation. It's all about moderation and you should be proud that you did well.
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2DAGGERS
4/5/2013 9:53AM
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I liked your blog and the humor you added to it. Sometimes we take things to seriously and beat ourselves up for not sticking to things. But the attitude you showed us in your blog really hit home for me. PORTION CONTROL is what it is all about and you nailed that on the head in a way most of can understand (and been there lol). Good for you and keep it up.
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KRISTYE81
4/5/2013 5:06AM
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I'd consider that a NSV! Report Inappropriate Comment |


JORDANLHALL
4/5/2013 2:24AM
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Congrats! It sounds like you had the perfect blend of indulgence and restraint. It's great to hear you've made enough great progress to be able to indulge yourself yet keep it under control. Not a lot of people would be able to be honest with themselves to wait 20 minutes, then decide that you want more, but don't need it. Again, congrats! Haha just be careful! My first fast food indulgence was a success in terms of self-control as well, but oh man, it can do a number on your digestive system if you've refrained from eating such things for awhile! Report Inappropriate Comment |


PIPPAMOUSE
4/4/2013 11:54PM
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Fast food is pretty rare for me. It has been over a year since Ive had McDs or BK, but I have had Arby's and a few of the other "better" quality places. I do miss the convenience of it, but not the food itself. Report Inappropriate Comment |


PENNYSAVER2
4/4/2013 10:44PM
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I enjoyed your blog. Report Inappropriate Comment |


GETSTRONGRRR
4/4/2013 10:08PM
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Smart attitude....there are very few single events that can derail us....it comes down to having perspective. and building in some enjoyable moments & treats...just don't turn them into lifestyles! I like what i read the other day; Saying “Oh, I’ve already ruined my good eating today. I’ll just eat crap” is like saying “Oh, I dropped my phone on the floor. I’ll just smash it till it breaks.” Never give up just because you hit a bump in the road! Report Inappropriate Comment |


AHTRAP
4/4/2013 9:33PM
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By grabthar's hammer, thanks for not molesting the mcdonalds menu, hilarious as that sounds.
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READY4CHANGE81
4/4/2013 9:01PM
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That is the key to success!!! (echoing what Nikki said) :) Report Inappropriate Comment |


BEECHNUT13
4/4/2013 8:58PM
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I'm burping up pizza as we speak... ;)
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1CRAZYDOG
4/4/2013 8:43PM
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Took me awhile to get to the end of your blog because I was laughing hysterically @ " I didn't go buckwild and hit up the McD's drive through, stuffing my bra with bacon, egg, and cheese biscuits for breakfast and daytime snacks." Oh yea! Now THERE'S a mental picture. Great the way you handled the situation. You picked your options, didn't get into a cat fight and you survived! All good. HUGS Report Inappropriate Comment |


NIKKICOLE83
4/4/2013 8:39PM
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I knew I would do better with weight loss this time around because I never told myself I could not have something. I tell myself that I can have anything I want as long as it is worth it. I try to think of certain things in term of how long it would take me to burn off. Typically I will tell myself that that one thing is not worth one hour on the treadmill and sometimes I tell myself it is absolutely worth it. We have to learn to live in the real world and in the real world there are fast food places on every corner.
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MARIANNE9855
4/4/2013 8:38PM
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That's how I am trying to eat now- a treat once in a while is fine- though I know somethings would start a binge so I don't go there. I want to eat this way the rest of my life not just to diet and lose weight. I have gone a couple times and something didn't taste as good as I thought so I just didn't finish it and I am more thoughtful about my sides. Like I love the fried fish at Cracker Barrel but when I went I picked a sw potato and carrots so the fish was the big indulgence. Report Inappropriate Comment |


LAILATN
4/4/2013 8:29PM
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As soon and someone tells me (or I tell myself) that I can't have something, I want it insanely and binge the first opportunity I can. So I identify when you told yourself, relax, this isn't the last piece of battered fish you'll ever have. Way to go! Once in a while for indulgences - not every day - is a great frame of mind. It's something you can live with and not go crazy! Report Inappropriate Comment |


DAUGHTEROFTWIN
4/4/2013 8:12PM
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Hi. My name is Tiffany and I am a Fast Food Addict. Lol! We each have our boundaries. You could feel yourself in control when you decided to indulge. For me, the danger comes when I choose the fast food from other motivations--typically for self soothing. Those little biscuit thingies from the Golden Arches are my archnemesis. Period. One Sausage, Egg and Cheese biscuit and I'm in the throes of a total melt-down. I compromise and make my own healthy alternative breakfast sandwiches at home instead. My long winded point is congratulations on Knowing your boundaries and being respectful to your body. Report Inappropriate Comment |


VHALKYRIE
4/4/2013 7:35PM
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Now and then having something less than ideal or even 'bad' isn't a problem. The problem comes in when people have a tendency to think 'once in a while' is actually more frequent than it should be. That's the road to a rebound.
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MINEA999
4/4/2013 7:16PM
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That's the thing that I'm working on making a part of my life. Fast food happens. It's a fact of life. We can't let it derail us or give us a license to eat. It just is what it is, and when it's gone, the next meal is healthy. I haven't banned anything from my diet. I try to avoid things as often as possible (like high fat, sugar, calorie foods) but sometimes they're what is available and I just deal with it. Report Inappropriate Comment |


CORTNEY-LEE
4/4/2013 6:52PM
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moderation is key and it sounds to me like that is exactly what you are doing. Keep up the awesome work!!! Report Inappropriate Comment |


PRETTYPITHY
4/4/2013 6:06PM
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One thing that is important about the experience you've shared is that everything about it was out of the ordinary. You were with your parents, they generally don't eat out, it was a special get-together, etc. The real danger in reintroducing the stuff is when you add it in the same way you would in the "old days", whatever that means for you. Then you're just reinforcing in your brain that "every time I do x, I get y." But when it's a one off, once in a blue moon, type deal, I think you're fine. Report Inappropriate Comment |


A*L*P*
4/4/2013 6:00PM
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The best lesson I have learned through this all is to never deal in absolutes. Absolutes are the way of the Sith. Good for you! It is nice to be able to enjoy food and not let it be a stressor!!! Report Inappropriate Comment |


HORSESHOEHONEY
4/4/2013 5:56PM
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Great blog! Report Inappropriate Comment |

