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Kid Obsessing About Sugar

Saturday, February 25, 2012

Today my son got into two tubes of decorator cake/cookie frosting, green sugar for cookie decorating, ice cream cones, and a bag of chocolate chips. That is, he raided the cupboard of baking ingredients.

Yesterday he took out a half gallon of ice cream (saved for his birthday PARTY, and left it out til it turned into soup). After that, Mommy and Daddy had small shakes of it in front of him instead of pouring it all out.

The day before (which I vlogged about) he ate two cupfuls of frosting from two different containers, which was eating up all the frosting for the birthday cake he knew I was going to make him. The consequence after he ate the blue was No Thomas the Train cake for his birthday party. After he secretly ate the white frosting (another cup) later the same day, I told him the consequence would be NO CAKE for his birthday party. I still had the decorator tubes of frosting and was going to return them to the store as they're about $3- apiece. (Then he ate two of those today.)

Other times he has eaten packets of jello, pudding mix, hot chocolate powder, and blocks of fondant (the smooth frosting for wedding cakes). I do NOT think this behavior is just normal childhood lack of impulse control. I can't keep anything with sugar in the house without him eating like the whole package of it. I have a locked tackle box we call the Treat Box and he broke the back hinges and then learned to open the clasps and pry open an end even with the combination lock on it to get out whatever he wanted unless it was smack in the middle. The Treat Box is now in my room and I'm a light sleeper so he can't get into it without waking me up. I also trashed a ton of candy from that a few days ago- Christmas candy and Valentine's candy he'd gotten from others, mostly. Very little remains, mostly super-dark chocolate (85% cacao) and some granola bars for him and high fiber ones for me.

I'm at wit's end about this. What do you think of this idea to cure him from taking frosting - make a batch using salt instead of sugar, or like a cup of salt so it tastes HORRIBLE? Too mean? Would it even help? Or would he just laugh and be smart enough to smell it and know the next time? WWYD?

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CRYSTLE4HIMTX10 2/26/2012 10:38PM

    My heart goes out to you. My Jessie used to do stuff like that. I know it is frustrating. emoticon

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NAYPOOIE 2/26/2012 2:37PM

    Absolutely see a doctor. All kids like sweet, but this is excessive.

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BLUE42DOWN 2/26/2012 12:25AM

    I don't think a salt version is a good idea - it would make him put that back, but still go after other things.

I do agree with others who've mentioned seeing a doctor if at all possible to rule out medical reasons his body might be overboard in craving sugars. Years ago I had a book called Carbohydrate addicted kids. If there's nothing medically wrong, it literally might require removing all temptation from the house.

Just a parent comment - take it or leave it as per your own parenting choices. It seriously sounds like treats (and punishments) that involve food need to stop completely. The Treat Box should cease to hold any foods - and have things like small toys (a ball, a car, little $1 store stuff, for example). Good behavior should be rewarded most with attention and praise. Bad behavior should be rewarded most with things like time outs, minimal attention.

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FITKIZ 2/25/2012 10:34PM

    I would certainly vote with everybody saying take him to the doctor. My oldest daughter was/is something of a sweet hound. She was not quite as extreme, but the first step to curing it is to make sure this isn't symptomatic of something bigger. Then get rid of ALL sugars in the house and don't let any in. It might feel mean right now to throw away anything that comes home from parties and to curtail his traditional Easter Basket / Trick-or-Treating but it takes whatever is necessary.

Hang in there Mom, he might hate you for a little while, but he'll have a long, healthy life in which to get over it.

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ELIZRN 2/25/2012 9:01PM

  Yes, the sugar needs to leave the house. Sorry parents.... ( actually not so sorry.) But, you really need to talk to your doctor about this because it is extreme behavior. I don't want to frighten you, but there are some medical issues that might be at the bottom of this.

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BECCABOO127 2/25/2012 8:48PM

    I would get the stuff out of the house so he won't be tempted.

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DJ4HEALTH 2/25/2012 8:13PM

    Was he recently on antibiotics? I know that when I get off of those I have real bad cravings for sugar but being an adult I know that is what it is and will make sure that I don't feed that fungus that I had to take to get rid of the bug that I had.

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    I am in agreement with Turtle - something is up - and your doc needs to help you get to the bottom of it, whether it's a physical issue or a psychological/emotional one.

Best of luck!


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TURTLERASKIN 2/25/2012 6:07PM

    I'd mention it to his doctor, because it could be a symptom of another problem. Beyond that, it may just be time to cut sugar out. As we know, sugar can be powerfully addictive, so it may be best to do what you can to cut his addiction now. (If you haven't seen it yet, Dr. Barnard's video is pretty thought-provoking -- google "how to magnetize a baby" on youtube to find it.)

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RESOLUTED1 2/25/2012 5:10PM

    I would discuss this with a doctor to see if there is something medically going on with him, and also what else could cause such behavior.

Comment edited on: 2/25/2012 5:11:01 PM

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BRIELANA 2/25/2012 4:03PM

    Hey Angel, his behavior seems a bit extreme. Just the party stuff is one thing, but the treat box issue on top of that really seems to push it out of the park. Hate to say it, but I would consult with his doctor in case this is an indication of a larger issue. Every child goes sugar crazy some times, but this seems a little more consistent.

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TESSABEAR428 2/25/2012 3:30PM

    Buy childproof locking mechanisms for the cupboards with the sugar/baking ingredients you need/use.

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    No, I don't think it's a power struggle. I'm eating hardly any sugar at all except in fruits. We DO have a fruit basket - in fact, three of them, so the bananas are separate from the apples and pears and separate from the citrus (oranges, clementines, lemons). We also have strawberries and usually melon and peaches (canned) in the fridge. He is welcome to all the fruit he wants as long as he doesn't just take one bite and throw it out (unless it's actually bad).

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UUCEEJAY 2/25/2012 3:10PM

    Seems like the two of you are in a power struggle over the sweets. I would just make sure that there were no sweets in the house that he could get into for a while and I wouldn't say another word about it. I would have the party and have pizza or something and make the yogurt/fruit parfait for dessert. Put a candle in his and let him blow it out.
I would try to get him involved in making the parfaits and excited about making them pretty with different colored fruits like kiwi, pineapple, strawberries and blue berries. Maybe take him shopping to pick out the fruits. Let him eat some fruit while the two of you make them. Healthy food should be fun. emoticon and he will learn from the experience that having a fun party doesn't have to involve eating a bunch of sugar.

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BOB240 2/25/2012 3:09PM

    I agree with Peggy. No one in the house needs that sugar. Get rid of it all. Buy a fruit bowl and fill it with apples pears a few oranges and tell everyone the can eat all they want out of it... The kid will learn by example..

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PEGGY-BEE 2/25/2012 2:41PM

He is one obsessed boy. I am thinking my household would go sugarless at this point or for those family members that want it, would have to have it in the highest cupboards that have locks on them.
BEST of luck!!!

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    See my edits, Peggy-Bee. You posted really fast! :) That's exactly what we did. After he ate the blue frosting for Thomas the Train (frozen buttercream transfer), I said no Thomas the Train cake. Later the same day he took the big container of white frosting which was the base coat and filling, and he secretly ate about a cup of it. I told him he was not going to have any cake for his birthday. He can still have a party, but no cake. I'm debating between ice cream for it (but then he ate the ice cream) or a sugar free party, except for some fruit - maybe yogurt/fruit parfait building like another friend suggested.

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PEGGY-BEE 2/25/2012 2:24PM

    I would not make him a birthday cake now as he has already eaten it. If it is for a party, he can explain it to his friends or cancel the party. I AM mean that way and my DD knows it.

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Vlog-2-25 About Midnight

Saturday, February 25, 2012

Eeks! Pardon the bad singing at the beginning (at least it's only one line!) I MUST learn to edit! ;) I have iMovie 2008.. trying to download current verson and learn it. Oh, but that costs $14.99. Hrm. I can't get the 2008 version to work at all, though.

This vlog is about 10 seconds of Dance Party, followed by a talk about my day, and then about my overall progress, and ends with a pep talk for the last minute. :)

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CRYSTLE4HIMTX10 2/25/2012 12:06PM

    Being able to visualize your goals is great. So glad you are doing well. Now to get the knee to cooperate. emoticon

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UUCEEJAY 2/25/2012 10:37AM

    Hope your knee feels better soon. Seeing a doctor is a good idea. Have you tried a knee brace, one of the elastic kind? When we were hiking a lot of people with knee problems were wearing them as a precaution to keep knees from popping out of place. You might also try some of the chair exercises on here while healing.
Winter has been really strange this year for sure.

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TESSABEAR428 2/25/2012 10:17AM

    I hope your body is quick to recover from all illness and injuries and pain. And great job with all your progress! What a great "I get it" moment!

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CANDOK1260 2/25/2012 6:35AM

    love your blog. sorry your knee is still hurting. We haven;t gotten much snow in cleveland either it is weird. keep visualizing you will make T. YOU ARE SPECIAL AND IMPORTANT TOO.hAVE A HAPPY WEEKEND.

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LADYGLAMOUR 2/25/2012 4:32AM

  Another great vlog - thanks for sharing and inspiring! I too like to walk. Would hoop if I could but can't get the hang of it! Oh, and I know just how you feel about the knees. Putting on weight has taken its toll on mine, as has taking up 5k run/walking a couple of years ago.
Have a great weekend
Jackie emoticon emoticon

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BLUE42DOWN 2/25/2012 4:08AM


Being able to envision the positive changes is a great thing!

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Today I am Grateful For:

Friday, February 24, 2012

Today I am grateful that:

* my husband and son let me sleep in late til I got up about 11 AM. (I was sick and had emailed that I was going to work from home.)

* my husband made me lemon water this morning, a habit we started about a week ago. Usually I make it, but he was up long before I was and he helped when I got up hurting.

* my husband got us a lemon squeezer tool yesterday to help with the lemon water prep.

* my husband made me Sunshine Pepper Eggs with cheese for breakfast.

* this is an easier school vacation than last year's since DH is home in the mornings and can play with Nicholas.

* my husband and I were in agreement on parenting consequences

* neighbor Deb took DH to work for me and came back later to walk my dog, because I wasn't able to walk with the knee pain.

* I am enjoying walking daily, hooping regularly, and doing private dance parties for exercise. I miss it when I can't do it (like today when my knee was too sore).

* my son got to have a short playdate with his friend across the street

* my face is looking thinner

* my stomach feels flatter

* my pants are looser in the upper thighs!!

* my undies are getting looser

* I know how to eat healthy and within my nutrition range on all categories.

* Most days I have a -500 or more calorie deficit (unless I blow it late at night).

* I don't feel deprived. Usually the food I'm eating is satisfying.

* I am eating a lot more fruits and veggies - usually 6-8 a day now. Yay!

* We will have health insurance coverage as of March 1st!! Hurray!

* I feel like I'm really on track for LONG TERM heathy lifestyle and healthy body!

* And I am grateful that my son is healthy and peacefully sleeping now -

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XPHOENIX 2/24/2012 3:38PM

    Really great blog!! Love how positive and awesome it is! YAY!!!! LOVE IT!!

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UUCEEJAY 2/24/2012 3:15PM

    Awe! He looks so cute asleep! It is always good to reflect on what we have to be grateful for. Glad you have had some help from your hubby and neighbor while you are under the weather. emoticon

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BENCGDL 2/24/2012 3:07PM

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RACINGSLUG 2/24/2012 11:28AM

    I don't know what Sunshine Pepper Eggs are, but they sound delicious! I'm glad you have so much in your life to enjoy.

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CANDOK1260 2/24/2012 10:56AM

    i love this blog i am grateful for having met you in class.

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CRYSTLE4HIMTX10 2/24/2012 9:53AM

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LAURENV2003 2/24/2012 9:28AM

    That was an adorable blog! It's amazing when you stop and actually realize all the blessings you have. So happy for you AND your son is absolutely adorable!

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BLUE42DOWN 2/24/2012 1:40AM

    After all the stress of the last day or so, how nice to be able to find so many things to be grateful for.


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LATTELEE 2/24/2012 12:29AM

  Nice photo!

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Vlog 2-23 My Son's Sugar Addiction

Thursday, February 23, 2012

I think my son has a bad sugar addiction problem. Suggestions needed! Please help?

To summarize this: Nicholas stole the frosting I'd made to make a frozen buttercream transfer of Thomas the Train on his birthday cake for his party. He ate all the BLUE frosting this morning (about a cup) before DH and I were up. I discovered it smeared on the TV screen and found empty container. Consequence: no Thomas the Train cake and Mom was angry.

Later, he took the big container of homemade white frosting into his room and ate about a cup of that. I brushed his teeth, had him change his clothing, bathed him, and fed him healthy dinner. I threw OUT the remaining frosting. I cleaned out the locked treat box and threw out many sugary candies that I don't want either of us to eat - remaining Christmas candy and Valentine candy. Only a few very dark chocolate things are left, plus fiber one brownies, some granola bars and son's juice boxes. Oh yes, AND consequence: no cake for his party. Possibly will have a sugar free party. We do have ice cream left and can do ice cream sundaes IF Nicholas doesn't eat the ice cream before then.

Worried about son who says "it was just too tempting!" as his reason. Worried about this pattern that happens whenever he gets sugar he eats wayyyyy too much of it. Concerned he might end up morbidly obese like 500+ lbs one day if he cannot learn to control these sugar cravings.

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MRS_EVA_K 2/24/2012 7:49AM

    Have you gone over "sometimes foods"? My daughter and I cut pictures from a few magazines of a variety of foods and I had her pick out the sometimes foods and put them in a box. I told her "a little is okay but too much will make you head hurt and your belly hurt and you'll just feel really slow the next day. Because your body can't keep you going on these foods". My daughter likes chocolate in very large amounts if I don't watch her but after i compared a "Sugar Snail" eating only sweets stuff To "Goodstuff Gorilla" that ate mostly healthy things and only had sweeties a few times in a week and then only small amounts. (give me a break I was using her toys) She's stopped asking for the sweets and asking for fruit. I have to remind her not all fruit is on the counter some is in the fridge and if she wants something she can't see ask mommy if we have any. The produce drawer is too heavy for her to pull.

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BLUE42DOWN 2/24/2012 2:05AM

    I don't know where the line gets drawn of a sugar addiction or just a naturally built up desire for sweet things. I've gone through an entire container of frosting, spoon by spoon, but am not a sugar addict. Sweet tooth, yes. Sugar addict, no.

One thing to think about - don't put a lot of focus in front of him on "you can't have this food". I was in my early teens when my dad remarried and the step-mother went on health-food kicks. Because of all her food restrictions, I would sneak stuff like butter, oats, and brown sugar just to make a treat - or take carob chips because they were at least sweet. I also stole money and used it to buy candy. He's a little young yet for that, but making a big deal of it being bad and not allowed can often make it something obsessed over.

Instead focus on expanding on the healthier foods - fresh fruit, fresh raw veggies - and making them easy and accessible. Apple slices, for example, especially if you brush some lemon juice over them so they don't brown, can be a healthy snack ready when he is. Gradually changing the whole concept of what is yummy food and making healthy treats easy to get at can help make the adjustment smoother.

And kind of a strange question perhaps, but his comment that he was too tempted ... children often parrot or mimic what they've heard adults around them say and do. Can you think of times you berated yourself for a binge or talked about how you ate something you shouldn't have because it tempted you? A ~BIG~ part of teaching him healthy attitudes toward food is in your own words and actions. Pay attention to your words about food and eating around him. It might be surprising.

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CRYSTLE4HIMTX10 2/24/2012 12:05AM

    Hang in there. I wouldn't be too upset. Kiddos have impulse control issues. Out of my five kids I can't tell you at various times who helped themselves to things that were off limits. I think making them off limits some times made it worse. Especially for my son. You would be shocked at the things he used to sneak. emoticon

They all like sugar and other treats and none are over weight or have battled like me except my oldest and I believe that was because he was the least active. He was really into the video games versus playing outside. Plus he had surgery and that sidelined him for a while.

That being said I'm not trying to say you do not know, just trying to encourage you. emoticon

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Vlog- 2-22 Part B

Thursday, February 23, 2012

Second part of the Video I made yesterday about what's going on. This was before I hurt my leg and started feeling so yucky.

The video cut off before I finished that, too. The rest said that my husband was going to call the candy store to see if they had any cupcakes. I wasn't going to make a big cake just for the three of us. Ultimately - yes, they did have cupcakes and we went and each picked out one specialty cupcake and ate them in railroad square (perfect for my my train loving little boy).

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CRYSTLE4HIMTX10 2/24/2012 12:06AM

    Hope your knee heals soon.

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