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Learning Maintenance: Levels

Wednesday, August 01, 2012

I believe maintenance can be learned. Iíve been at this now for over two and half years, and I seem to be getting better at it. Hereís one way of looking at my progress, based on the number on the scale. See the bottom of this post for a link about how I frame my progress in terms of mental phases.

There are various levels of maintenance. You can define weight maintenance in many ways. www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=4323116


I have several nested weight-based definitions Iíve been using.

1) Keeping off at least 10% of my original weight (under 302 lbs)
Iíve managed this since January 2010. This is the broadest definition I use when Iím talking about my overall maintenance path since losing the weight in 2009. Iíve been within this definition consistently since January 2010.

2) Keeping under 160 lbs, with attention paid to body composition.
This was my original goal, since at this weight my BMI is under 25. I removed the emphasis on BMI in order to be consistent with my more recent philosophy that any BMI under 30 can be considered ďhealthyĒ (since BMI doesnít account for muscle mass or bone weight). I like how I look and feel here. When I am above 160 itís usually because I have more fat on me.


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Iíve been inside and outside of this range since January 2010. I had a 4-month streak within that range January 2010-April 2010. Then I gained out of this range. I briefly dropped back under 160 in June 2011. Then I regained. I again dropped back under in December 2011 and Iíve managed to stay here for the past 8 months. In two weeks Iíll have managed 9 months here. Iím shooting for a year - that will be an accomplishment, for sure.

3) Keeping within +/- 3% around 150 lbs (145.5 -154.5)
This is the most stringent definition that I use. Itís based on the paper described here:
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=4924102
. Itís also the definition we use for the maintenance challenges in the At Goal and Maintaining Team teams.sparkpeople.com/maintaining .
My central goal weight has slowly dropped. At first it was 155 (150.4-159.7), then it was 152.5 (147.9-157.1), and now itís 150. Iíve discovered that I can do more stuff in my kayak at a smaller size, so thatís where I like to be. As with the previous definition, if I weigh more than this range itís usually because I have more fat on me.

So far I havenít yet managed to stay within my chosen +/- 3% weight range during one of our team maintenance challenges. I keep trying, though, and I think Iím getting better at doing it. We just started a new one this month, and Iím going to do my best to hang in there for the next 12 weeks. Part of the reason I run these challenges is to give myself the accountability and motivation to keep working at it.

The good news is that I am getting better at staying within a goal weight range, with less and less fluctuation. There are people on the At Goal and Maintaining team who consistently manage this, so I know itís possible. And since I am getting better at it, I think itís reasonable to assume that if I keep working at it, one day I can be one of them, too.

Perhaps in a couple of years Iíll discover I like life better at a higher weight or a lower one, or maybe Iíll have found a more accurate way to assess body composition and that will become how I gauge maintenance. But for now, watching the scale and my % body fat and my athletic performance suffices.

(Update and clarification; I DO track my body composition, and here is a post explaining how: www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=4790344
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Here is a related blog post about learning maintenance, framing it in terms of mental phases:
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=4996986

  
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WATERMELLEN 5/29/2013 11:02PM

    Like you, I believe maintenance can be learned. And has to be learned. And then has to be relearned . . . ! (Which is not the same as yo-yoing . . .because we are changing up techniques to stay within our chosen maintenance range).

Thanks, Anja, for all of this collected wisdom on the Big Page of Links.

Really enjoyed the article about the pain and shame of regaining too.

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LOGOULD 10/17/2012 11:15PM

    Still working on figuring out where my final goal weight range will end up, but more important to me right now is consistently staying within a range.


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CELIAMINER 8/22/2012 9:18AM

    I like the progressive definitions of maintenance. As for staying within the +/- 3 pounds, I think it is easier post menopause, when hormonal fluctuations don't produce a 5-pound water weight gain every month.

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KAYOTIC 8/4/2012 12:38PM

    I think it's good idea to keep an open mind about the final goal range. I've adjusted mine up and down over the past few years, currently I use 135 as my goal point, and go for the 3% above and below that, and it's been working very well.

I'm bummed I missed the first week of the latest challenge, I think I was looking for an e-mail, I might have missed it, but I was also on vacation, so that may have been the culprit! I'll be eagerly awaiting the next one though, as I found the last few challenges to be really great in helping me stay in my range (and figure out what that range is!)

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4A-HEALTHY-BMI 8/2/2012 1:57AM

    @ LBLYKOWSKI
No one at the YMCA was willing to do caliper measurements for me. I have a system using averaged BIA numbers: http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_p
ublic_journal_individual.asp?bl
og_id=4790344

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LBLYKOWSKI 8/2/2012 1:17AM

    I like tracking my body composition by having my gym measure my body fat. They take measurements using a little metal pincher in a few places (for women its belly, hip and back of arm). It's fairly accurate compared to what by doctor has done previously. Check it out.

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MYSTERY-LADY1 8/1/2012 9:22PM

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SOULOFWELLNESS' insightful questions

Tuesday, July 31, 2012

I've had a recent email exchange with SOULOFWELLNESS who had some questions about the steps I took to remove a lot of weight (body fat).

I really like her questions, because they show that she is putting a lot of effort into understanding this monumental task she's set for herself. I see that as a sign she is likely to succeed - especially because so much of this process has been one of discovery for me. I've had to learn a lot about myself and about nutrition and about the various forms of exercise, and had to come up with individual solutions that work for me.

I like her questions so much that I've decided to post them here, with my answers, in case anyone else finds them helpful or thought-provoking.

1.) Since starting what is the main thing you personally have learned?

That I need to track my food. Not only to control my intake, but to understand patterns in how I feel, what gives me energy, what makes me hungry, what triggers binges, what I can't stop eating at "just one," etc. Yes, tracking is a PAIN IN THE BUTT. I hate it. Iíve done everything I can to make it less painful ( LoseIt.com app on my iPhone & iPods, scales at home and work and in my purse, etc. etc. etc.) I consider this just something I have to do, the way a nearsighted person has to deal with glasses or contacts if they want to be able to see.

2.) If you knew then what you know now, what changes would you have made?

That's a hard one to answer, because so much of my self awareness and mental approach to this whole fitness thing has evolved. I didnít have the knowledge, tools, and experience back then that I do now. I had to learn about myself by tracking stuff - weight, % body fat, food, exercise, etc. and watch the effects. I also had to read and learn about how food and exercise affect metabolism, weight gain, loss, and maintenance in people, etc.

I can say what things I think I did right, that led me here, though, so maybe that will help?

A. Tracking my food. All of it. Every day.

B. Weighing myself regularly and using a weighted average like the one at physicsdiet.com so the fluctuations wouldnít wig me out. For more information about weighted moving averages, you can see teams.sparkpeople.com/hackers
diet


C. Lifting weights AND cardio, both. On a fitness class schedule, so once my routine was locked in, it became a habit. As things got easier I found ways to challenge myself more, eventually sometimes switching to harder activities.

D. Logging everything somewhere I could see the progress in a graphical format and make sense of it ( physicsdiet.com )

E. Having realistic expectations of how the weight loss would go if I stayed on the plan. The difficulty of getting weight off is proportional, not in terms of actual pounds. It is roughly equally difficult for everyone to lose 5% of their body weight. For example, it is about as hard for me at 153 to lose 8 lbs as it is for someone who is 350 lbs to lose 17 lbs. This is why they scale the losses on shows like The Biggest Loser. www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=2367267


F. Setting up frequent milestones that were only about 5 lbs apart, or less. This way I always had another milestone to celebrate, just around the corner.
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This is a war won in tiny little battles, day after day after day. I found it really helpful to always have a carrot waiting just around the next bend.

3.) Correct me if wrong here, but.... From what I see you are high protein, low carb and low fat? Did I understand that correctly?

Iím not sure what my diet would be classified as. At the beginning I just started with trying to make my nutrition pie chart look like the RDA one at the bottom of the Spark tracker. Later I explored more of a South Beach Diet approach. For most of the year I lost 160 lbs I ate pretty equal percentages of carbs and protein and very low fat.

Now Iím aiming for these numbers each day:

at least 150g protein
at least 40g fiber
at least 50g fat
less than 100g sugar

I kind of settled on this after watching how my body responds to stuff. Iím working with a dietitian now to see if we can reintroduce more starches (complex carbs) into my diet. Macronutrient ratio is the sort of thing that you can tweak and refine forever. And your requirements change depending on where you are in the process.

4.) Your eating plan - Has it lowered any lipids? I have high cholesterol and am nervous about high protein. We are fed so much by media and such about what is best.

Getting my body fat down overall has definitely made my numbers look better. See this table:
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Higher amounts of protein help me personally eat less overall (because protein is so filling). In general I seem to do really well on a low glycemic index type of diet. So for me eating a lot of protein helped with the overall goal of getting rid of body fat, which helped with my general health.

5.) Ohhh speaking of protein, I noticed you also use Whey... Now is that once a day or more often?

I supplement with protein powder when I need more lean protein in my day. I often have a shake after a workout, and sometimes mix some protein powder in with my Greek yogurt. Iíd say on average I have about 1-2 scoops of protein powder per day. While itís usually whey, I also sometimes use rice, hemp, pea, or soy protein, just to get some variety. I also use protein bars, especially for emergencies. Here are some blog posts Iíve written about protein and whey supplements:

www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=2536501


www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=2542899


6.) After beginning your lifestyle, when was the point you noticed you had more energy?

The amount of energy I have goes through phases. It sort of snuck up on me so I canít put my finger on a specific date. Whenever I start a new exercise regime at first itís sort of hard and I have to force myself to do it. Over time it gets easier, and then one day Iím like, ďGee, I canít WAIT to go over there and pound out some miles on the bike (or in the kayak), lift some heavy weights, etc.Ē And I stop and go, ďWhoa. when did THAT happen???Ē I suspect it takes at least 2 weeks of consistently doing whatever it is, to feel that way.

The amount of energy I have also is greatly affected by whether Iím getting enough sleep. Even if Iím eating well and doing my workouts, if Iím not getting enough sleep I lose motivation, start making unhealthy decisions, etc.

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If you would like to follow SOULOFWELLNESS on her journey, here's a link to her Spark Page:
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage.asp?id=SO
ULOFWELLNESS

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PERIWINKLE88 8/31/2012 8:46AM

    Going back over your old blogs. Lots to learn from you!

~Peri

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SWEETLIPS 8/1/2012 7:17PM

    Thank you so much for these answers and thinking enough to post them. I eat those noodles as well, because I needed a sub that would keep my blood sugar stable. I so appreciate this. Thanks

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VHALKYRIE 8/1/2012 11:54AM

    Thanks so much for sharing this with all of us! It's so insightful to see what has worked well for those who succeeded!

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DDOORN 8/1/2012 9:10AM

    Wonderful summary of your "secrets" (hardly! thank you...!) to success!

Really appreciate your sharing...will save for reminders and to pass along to others as well!

Don

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BLUE42DOWN 8/1/2012 12:48AM

    Love your answers. I'm not where you are in the process and yet so many of my answers would have been very similar.

Tracking food as necessary the way glasses or contacts are; that is such a great comparison. I know I found it easier when I viewed it as tracking ALL the nutrients, tracking the when and why and what, and not just calorie-counting.

And the way the journey evolves is something else that even I didn't expect. So so many times I hear (or say it myself) that a person is surprised to be doing or liking something they wouldn't even have considered when they first started. Who would expect to hula hoop or kayak or do zumba when just walking to the mailbox is tough? Something we know works NOW may not have been workable early on before we were ready to make the change.

I'm going to link your blog on one of my teams because I think it can help others as well.

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WATERMELLEN 7/31/2012 8:48PM

    Another great blog with a whole lot of info and resources: you are the "SOULOFGENEROSITY" with the time you spend on such detailed and helpful responses! Love both the rigour of your thought AND the inherent modesty of your scope: "this is what worked for me", not claiming some kind of universal wisdom. (Although I'm suspecting it's fundamentally what works for most of us).

I'm gonna try some protein powder, thanks for the idea!

And agree totally that the fundamental is: track the nutrition!

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LESLIELENORE 7/31/2012 8:37PM

    Thanks for sharing that discussion. I am always tweaking my macronutrient percentages to see what works best for me. I have seen in a lot of places that each of us is "an experiment of one" when it comes to weight loss, and I think that is very true. It helps me though to read what works for other people and maybe modify what I am doing to see if what you do might help me.

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Talking about Maintenance, TODAY.

Wednesday, July 25, 2012

Lots and lots of folks have been sending me kind words about the segment in which I appeared on the TODAY show this week. Thank you!!!

www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_pu
blic_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=49
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And wow, Iím very happy if anything Iíve ever done or said has helped anyone else on their own journey. Iíve been (and continue to be) inspired by plenty of other people, both here on Spark People and on other sites. Iím not very good at keeping track of friends on websites, but I do try to answer comments and emails, etc. There have been a lot of these lately (thank you, again!) and please donít be offended if it takes a little time to respond or if I somehow miss replying to you! If you have a question, feel free to shoot me a private Spark Mail (or two) and Iíll do my best to help.
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There was fun involved, and it went very fast. Everyone was friendly, professional, and efficient. They run a well-oiled machine.

I enjoyed comparing notes with Joy Bauer on our favorite ways to buy and store almonds, grape versus cherry tomatoes, etc. She is very down-to-earth and accessible. I think she genuinely enjoys her job.

After I changed into the clothes I wore on set we had to duck around the corner at one point so Hoda and Kathie Lee wouldnít see me before my ďreveal.Ē

We took pictures on the set (Joy's idea), and even snuck onto the main TODAY set downstairs and tested out the couch.


Although it is very nice hearing kind things, and it was interesting and fun to see the show from behind the scenes and meet new people, that isnít the reason I agreed to go on TV.

I did it because I spend what feels like a lot of time complaining that maintenance doesnít get enough attention, compared with weight loss. And so when I was given an opportunity to make the issues of maintenance more visible in the media, it seemed like I should either step up and make a difference (even if only a small 4-minute one) or shut up.

Having been there myself, I know first-hand how awful it feels to fail at maintenance. And Iím not alone. The statistics on regain are appalling. Iíve heard from several people in the last few days who say they are also on a mission to get the weight off - AGAIN. There is a lot of pain out there, and people are suffering physically as well as mentally. Not because they canít GET the weight off, but rather because they canít KEEP it off.

Because he understands my perspective, Spark People head of media relations Bruce Corwin (THESLOWESTLOSER) kindly submitted my information to the Joy Fit Club, which is pretty good about acknowledging maintenance. People are only eligible if theyíve kept off 100+ lbs for at least a year. And since Joy is interested in maintenance too, she and her producers were happy to go along with a maintenance theme.

If you watch some past segments, you can see that they have focused on maintenance before:

www.joybauer.com/today-show/s
trategies-for-avoiding-weight-regain.aspx

Jan. 5, 2012: Strategies for Avoiding Weight Regain

today.msnbc.msn.com/id/304142
6/ns/today-today_health/#47143328

April 23, 2012: Meet Joy's Weight Loss Superstars
Starting at 2:55 see three Joy Fit Club maintainers affirm that it's work but it's worth it...

www.joybauer.com/today-show/b
est-diets-for-revving-up-your-metaboli
sm.aspx

June 29, 2012: Best Diets for Revving Up Your Metabolism
Discussion about the recent study about macronutrient ratios and weight regain.

An interesting interaction occurred off camera; separately with both Hoda and Joy; they were saying the sincere nice things to me that they probably always say to guests. Which struck me as ironic, so I said,

"Hold on. You guys are inspiration, to ME. Because as hard as it may be for me to keep this shape, it's nothing compared with what you guys have to do, in order to be camera-ready every single day on national television. So when I start to feel sorry for myself I think about all of you women in the media, and I remember there are others who have to be much more vigilant about their size and appearance."

They seemed surprised and touched that someone was thinking about their perspective. I thought about how mean and nasty the tabloids can be, and was glad they could hear that some people out here appreciate their own work at maintenance. And itís really true. The closer you get to goal, and the lower you get your % body fat, the more difficult it is to stay that way. Those last few ďvanity poundsĒ are the hardest Iíve ever tackled. Seriously.

If youíve read my blog posts before, you probably know how disheartening the statistics on maintenance in general are. Depending on how you define maintenance, 80%-95% of people who reach their weight goals fail to stay there.

Here are three blog posts about the subject:

Wondering how to define ďweight maintenance?Ē Researchers do too.
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_pu
blic_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=43
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Familiar faces from Biggest Loser illustrate how wildly maintenance definitions vary
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blic_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=43
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Weight Maintenance Definitions, Revisited
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_pu
blic_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=49
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So, what can we DO about this??? Are we all simply doomed to fail?

I donít think so. I think if we learn from the research and keep ourselves focused, we can raise EVERYONEíS ability to beat the odds (and in doing so, change the odds, themselves).

Fortunately for us there is scientific research going on in the field of weight maintenance. For example, studies gather and summarize data from folks in the National Weight Control Registry (NWCR, www.nwcr.ws ) to tell us what works for most people. In short, we can learn from what works for those few who DO succeed at maintenance! Hereís a blog post about that:

Strength in Numbers: Predictors and Behaviors of Maintenance
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_pu
blic_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=43
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(If YOU have kept off 30 lbs for at least a year, please consider joining the NWCR because the more high quality data we have, the better off all of us will be)

Hereís the bottom line, the ďsecretĒ to successful maintenance, as far as Iíve been able to figure out:

1) Frequent monitoring (checking how your jeans fit or weighing yourself, tracking athletic benchmarks, etc.)

2) Immediate correction (eating less, moving more - or eating more, moving less depending on the direction of the trend)

If you want details (and the devil is generally in the details), you can read about them in the link above. Some might surprise you.

There are places to go for help with implementing those behaviors. One of my favorites is the At Goal and Maintaining team, right here on Spark People.
teams.sparkpeople.com/maintai
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We celebrate maintenance anniversaries and have a Hall of Fame where you can see who here is maintaining successfully and read all about what they do on their Spark Pages. You can ask for their advice and help, either directly, or through the team message boards. Here is a blog post about our own successful maintainers right here on SparkPeople.com:

Rockstars of Maintenance
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_pu
blic_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=45
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We have periodic maintenance challenges, where we see who can keep their weight inside a +/- 3% range around a target.
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/t
eam_messageboard.asp?board=681x1111


The Team also has tons of links to information about maintenance research and other sites that focus on maintenance.
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/g
roups_links.asp?gid=1111


A couple highlights:

wekeepitoff.com
A site run by our own RUSSLANE (and also a Joy Fit Club member) that focuses specifically on accomplishing and celebrating maintenance.

refusetoregain.com
Barbara Berkeleyís site, related to her 2008 book of the same name.

So, yeah. There ARE resources out there for maintainers. Could they be improved? Sure. For example, Iíd love it if the Maintenance Hall of Fame could somehow be built into the SparkPeople.com framework so we wouldnít have to manage it ourselves by hand on Google Documents. But the picture is far from bleak, as long as youíre willing to hunt down the resources and then actually USE them.

No matter where you are in your journey, whether youíre taking your first steps away from morbid obesity or whether youíre at goal and working to change your ratio of fat to muscle, there are people here to help.

And once you get to goal, please come join the At Goal and Maintaining Team. Weíre waiting for you!

teams.sparkpeople.com/maintaining
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GOTTAPLAN4U 9/4/2012 12:39PM

  Seeing you on the Joy Fit Club was what brought me to SP. I had not heard of it before. Glad to have found your page. My plan is to be able, possible a year from now, to say you changed my life. emoticon

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CHRISPYLEE 8/16/2012 5:15PM

    I am going to register for the NWCR now, since i have maintained a 30 lb loss for over 3 years.
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I also have to say.....how AWESOME you are......
and i Will see you at the At Goal and Maintaining Team in the future!
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MALCONTENTION 8/15/2012 6:04PM

    I'm just coming across this. You did and look great! Congrats on your success with maintenance.

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YESCURLYCAN 8/15/2012 8:10AM

  I have read quite a few of your blogs and I am always impressived by the wealth of information you provide. I wish Sparkpeople would hire you, so you can be the resident Maintaining Expert; I think you would be a perfect fit for that. I still have a long way to go, but I am glad I haven't gained back any of the weight I have lost, albeit for water weight issues lol.

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SWEETYOUNGTHING 8/14/2012 10:33AM

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! I reached my goal weight just last week and I feel so nervous about maintaining properly. Hearing you talk about it made me realize I have to apply all the same principles I did to lose the weight. Accountability, self-displine and education - simple, right? :-) I don't want to back track but I have to make sure my body is getting enough food as well. Thanks so much for the inspiration. Pat

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CELIAMINER 8/14/2012 7:46AM

    Thanks for being such a great motivator! Even if we never meet face-to-face, it's good to know you've got my back (and many others), and I've got yours (and many others). Together we are a FORCE!

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TRAVELNISTA 8/12/2012 9:18PM

    You ROCK! I am so sorry I missed the Today Show when you appeared. I have been so busy with work and OT but had I known I would have DVR'd it.

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TINAJANE76 8/12/2012 10:50AM

    Loved watching you! I don't know why there's the perception that we're 'discouraging' to those who are trying to lose weight and struggling. I think the 428 comments on the page with your video clearly demonstrate the opposite!

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JENNSWIMS 7/30/2012 1:29PM

    I can't believe I missed this and didn't even record it. I suck. You, however, are awesome!

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GEE-KNEE 7/28/2012 11:13AM

    Congratulations on your appearance on the Today show! Very very very cool! I am so going to watch everyone of these segments that you have linked. This is perfect timing for me because I think I am finally ready to call it done. Although.... in a lot of ways I have been maintaining already, but more information is such a useful thing.

Thank you for kind of pioneering this area for spark people. I kind of think of you as the maintenance guru of spark people because I know you've always rallied for them to do more in this area. I know you've done your research. They could not have picked a better person.

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TRYINGHARD1948 7/27/2012 4:39PM

    Great blog and so relevant to the 97% of us who fight to maintain. Thank you.

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LIFEISPURRFECT 7/27/2012 8:20AM

    Wonderful post. I will be bookmarking for future references. I'm just starting to realize the challenge that maintenance really is. Thank you for sharing.

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TRACYZABELLE 7/27/2012 3:45AM

    Yup you are amazing!!

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NUOVAELLE 7/27/2012 2:13AM

    We've exchanged views on maintenance before on one of my blogs and I was so glad to watch your video on Sparkteam's blog. You deserve lots of congratulations not just on your success, but also on the way you keep inspiring and helping people. I really loved what you said at the show: "It was different this time because I had gained it all back the last time and I knew how easy it was for it to happen!" Unfortunately most of us have to go through this disappointing regaining period to realize how important maintenance is. You're doing a great job on reminding people the importance of a lifetime alertness. I'd really like to help with this. I'll make sure to join your wonderful team but if there's anything else I could do please let me know!
Congratulations again!
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IRP1114 7/27/2012 1:02AM

    Loved seeing you on the show! So proud of you. You looked amazing ;-)! Great blog! Totally agree. Vanity pounds are hard to lose. Thank you for sharing all this info! emoticon emoticon

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TRAVELGRRL 7/26/2012 10:10PM

    Great blog!!! Agree with Watermellen that this is one to bookmark so I can return to it again and again as I work through the resources you've pulled together.

Also agree with DDORN that I wish they would have given you MORE time! My biggest complaint about those shows is they can hardly STAND not to talk over each other. Why have a guest on the show if they aren't going to let her talk?

It was so kind of you to compliment Hoda and Joy on their own weight management.

Congratulations on your accomplishment and your determination to keep the weight off. I'm not there yet either but you've inspired me to move with a little more purpose to get there! YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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WATERMELLEN 7/26/2012 9:20PM

    This is a great blog that I will return to again and again to work through all of the maintenance resources you've compiled.

Maintenance is so much more challenging than weight loss . . . and this is the kind of info AND inspiration which helps most!

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LESLIELENORE 7/25/2012 10:28AM

    Congrats on the appearance on TV, you looked great! I am slowly approaching my goal weight, so I have been thinking a lot about maintenance. I don't want to reach my goal and go "Now what?" That seems like a good way to regain the weight. I really appreciated all the resources you packed into this blog.

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WINSLOWGIRLS3 7/25/2012 10:00AM

    I'm not at the maintenance stage yet, but I'm very nervous about it when I do get to it. Thanks for all of the helpful tips and sites!

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EATNBOOGERS 7/25/2012 9:21AM

    Wow, great resources--can't wait to check them out. And congratulations again!

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DDOORN 7/25/2012 8:57AM

    Terrific re-cap Angela. Maintenance is a tremendous challenge and a real test of our abilities to go the distance with the improvements we've made in our lives.

While I thought you were SUPER on the Today show, my only fault is that they didn't / couldn't / wouldn't give you even MORE time to share your wisdom! I hear you regarding the "well-oiled machine" that these shows are. I found it fascinating to see everything in motion for the Dr. Oz show when I was on it and even thought of the "warm up" guy who was responsible for yucking it up with the audience, cracking jokes and telling us when to crank up the applause and informing us of each of the steps as they occurred in the taping of the show, letting us the surprise guest was Richard Simmons, etc. My thought was: could you imagine waking up every working day knowing you've got to head into the studios all bright-eyed and cheery and whoop up yet another audience? Whew! :-)

Don

ps..."pros and cons of grape versus cherry tomatoes"...? You've piqued my curiousity...!

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BREWMASTERBILL 7/25/2012 8:31AM

    You are a maintenance pioneer and I appreciate it.

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NOW2DAY 7/25/2012 8:18AM

    Great blog. You looked great on TODAY, so athletic. Congrats big time.

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VHALKYRIE 7/25/2012 7:56AM

    I absolutely loved you putting the spotlight on maintaining weight on the show! We're never going to get a handle on obesity without being able to keep it off.

While I'm not at my goal weight, I have lost 30lbs and kept it off for 4 years. I'll look at NWCR. Thanks!

I have data about keeping my weight at a target range that I was planning on posting in August after my monthly assessment. You might find it interesting.

BTW: Congrats again on your segment! We're all so proud of you!

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CHICA_BORICUA 7/25/2012 7:39AM

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KIM--POSSIBLE 7/25/2012 6:11AM

    You look amazing! Congratulations on your maintenance, and thank you for being such a motivation! Lots of great information here.

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BMI values are kind of meaningless between 18 and 30

Saturday, July 14, 2012

There is a fun link floating around on the blogs here lately, where you can see how your BMI compares with the averages in other countries and globally overall.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328

"You're most like someone from Tanzania*
* Compared with other females aged 45-59 in Tanzania"

It kind of underscores the meaninglessness of BMI between the values of 18 and 30. Below 18 can be unhealthily thin. Above 30 is often unhealthily fat. But between those values it's really about body composition. The accompanying article illustrates this pretty well, actually. (Click the "See it in action" tab.)

There are 3 women featured.

- One is Obese Class II (severely obese, BMI 35-40).
- One is underweight (BMI 16-18.5).
- And the third, while she has a "Normal" BMI of 23, doesn't look like she has much muscle - reminiscent of the "skinny-fat" body type we hear about a lot.
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052
748704762904575025313433081780.html


My take on the whole BMI thing is that unless you're a linebacker or a bodybuilder or someone with an obvious lot of muscle, you want to be under 30. If you're not an extreme endurance athlete you probably don't want to be much below 18. Between those values it's about % body fat relative to lean muscle.

Here's a blog post I once wrote about measuring body composition:
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=4134115


And here's one I wrote about tracking changes in body composition:
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=4790344


All of this sounds kind of ridiculous, considering my Spark ID, huh?
When I chose that ID, however, my own BMI was 52.6 and I would have been THRILLED to get it below 30. I'm not sure I ever actually believed it would get there, let alone under 25.

In fact, the technical medical term for a BMI between 18-25 is "Normal."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_ma
ss_index

So I coined my OWN term "Healthy" to describe a BMI between 18-30. Because I can, and because it makes more sense to me.

So right now what I'm most concerned about is getting my body fat back under 19% because I feel stronger and more agile there. And I like how it looks.

That means moar lifting and lotsa nice lean protein, consistently over time.
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KIM--POSSIBLE 7/25/2012 6:20AM

    lower than 78% of women in the US, higher than 55% in the world

most like the Netherlands

Weird, I did it a second time and got lower than 77%, and most like Kazakhstan (same numbers and BMI), though on the chart, they are almost equal, too.

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MAGGIEROSEBOWL 7/23/2012 3:47PM

    Boy this study really proves the U.S. is FAT!
Here's my results:

Your numbers
Obesity Index
26bmi
BMI is an estimate of how "overweight" or "obese" a person is
National
Below average
You have a lower BMI than 74% of females aged 60-69 in your country
Global
Above average
You have a higher BMI than 55% of females aged 60-69 in the world


Did you know?
If everyone in the world had the same BMI as you, it would add 30,759,671 tonnes to the total weight of the world's population

SCARY THOUGHT. So even though I'm skinnier than most people of my age and gender in this country, I am fatter than most in the world! Very interesting! Oh--I didn't see this til I went back and looked. I'm most like a woman from France. Geesh, I don't even speak French!

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WATERMELLEN 7/18/2012 10:14PM

    Papua New Guinea! This is lots of fun . . . but I know that what really counts is per centage of body fat . . .

Still, I'm happy NOT to be in the overweight or obese category of BMI, even though I agree it's body composition that really "counts".

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CELIAMINER 7/16/2012 8:40AM

    Liberia for me. I know BMI gets a lot of bad mouthing, but I worked hard to get into the healthy range, and for me it was one more goal and one more victory. I like seeing that my BMI is lower than 86% of females in my age group in the US and lower than 63% of females in my age group worldwide, and I want to keep it that way. As for body composition, I was doing strength training before I started losing weight, so I always knew there was good muscle mass under all my flab. Now I can see those muscles, and I'm thrilled!

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GEE-KNEE 7/16/2012 12:04AM

    This was kind of fun to see. Thanks for posting it.

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VHALKYRIE 7/15/2012 10:27PM

    I have a BMI lower than average for my age group. I'm most like someone from Hungary.

It's kinda bittersweet that I have a lower BMI than 76% of women in my age group. On the one hand, it's great that I'm not above the curve. However, I'm only just on the high end of 'normal'. Just 5lbs would put me back into the 'overweight' bracket. That means most US women my age are overweight or obese.

I'm a little higher than the global average currently, but I'm almost over the threshold of being the global 'average' or below.

Despite BMI's flaws, it's nice to not fall into the 'overweight' bracket anymore.

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WOLFKITTY 7/15/2012 10:16PM

    I noticed the link on Facebook from you or another... and tried it for me, knowing fully well how high my BMI is! ...Strangely, I did not take the info as objectively as I thought I would.. :( I think it is the part that says, "If everyone in the world was as gigantically fat as you are, it would add 228,072,230 tonnes to the total weight of the world's population."

I don't know.. I guess that although I know I have a long way to go still, it's ridiculously disheartening to see it spelled out like that.. as if I WANT it to be that way.

Actually, it may just be that my company has put up signs in the bathroom about obesity, and the cost to the company in medical premiums, etc., that go along witht he 1st Lady's campaign, & I feel like all of my hard work doesn't make a difference in the eyes of the jerks that will judge me not on my healthy actions like eating well, or running, but solely on how I look. Grr.

Sorry to make this all about me.. Love you, Ang, and I'm thrilled for you!
HUG,
Joce

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KAYOTIC 7/15/2012 8:55PM

    East Timor for me....may have to check the globe! I've always taken BMI guideline lightly, since it really just doesn't account for body composition. But then bodyfat calculations can be so far off from one measurement mode to another, so I'm starting to think I really just need to go by how I feel and look...

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BLUE42DOWN 7/14/2012 8:09PM

    Heh. You're most like someone from New Zealand*.
* Compared with other females aged 30-44 in New Zealand

Wouldn't mind visiting and seeing if that equates to anyone of similar height and weight. =P

I like measuring a wide variety of things. It's nice to be under 30 BMI, sure, but by combining that number with body fat (inaccurate, perhaps, but consistently so on my scale) and resting heart rate and inches and looking in a mirror I have a much broader picture of my overall condition.

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OPTIMIST1948 7/14/2012 3:45PM

    Hmm. I got Algeria.

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MKELLY72 7/14/2012 2:49PM

    Very interesting.
I'm most like a woman my age from Pakistan.
I'd like to find out what my fat percentage is with my BMI of 23

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LESLIELENORE 7/14/2012 10:26AM

    I like watching the number on the scale and bmi chart go down, but what I am concentrating on is body fat %. I get it measured by a PT at the gym about every 8 weeks, and it is consistently falling. Now I just have to get this injury under control so I can get back to the ST. I never thought I would miss it so much!

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BREWMASTERBILL 7/14/2012 10:22AM

    Maybe it should always be about body fat %? The problem with that is the means for accurate measurement are expensive. But I suppose you're right, if you're over 30, it's likely because you're fat. Under 30, you might be fat. hehe.

Lift moar, lift HEAVY and eat lotsa protein. Pink dumbbells not allowed.

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Did I mention I like kayaking? LOL

Saturday, July 14, 2012

Finally got a picture with my biggest boat (Wilderness Systems Tempest 165) and my smallest boat (Wavesport Project X 48)



If they look like they're made of the same plastic, that's because they are. Both come from the Confluence Watersports factory in South Carolina.

I like taking the big one out in rough open water (like Lake Ontario when there are big waves), and the little one is for learning how to do tricks in rivers.

The fact that they "match" my car is a coincidence. The fact that they match each other is not.

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VIXSTERLU 7/23/2012 12:57PM

    You look fantastic! Sounds like you love kayaking like I love socccer :) Now get out on the water girl and shred it up!

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WATERMELLEN 7/18/2012 10:02PM

    Really like this: "orange" you glad you love kayaking?? And: can do it so well because you've been so determined about getting strong and fit??? Yay you!!

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DDOORN 7/18/2012 2:30PM

    No surprise to see you making the most of your summer! :-)

Don

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FRECKS96 7/16/2012 10:10AM

    Awesome!

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VHALKYRIE 7/15/2012 10:14PM

    I miss kayaking so much! Only swamps around here, which is ok, but I'm not really down with the bugs.

Love your kayaks! One day I'll have someplace to store one, I'll get one of my own! But just a sea kayak. River kayaking is a wee above my bravery zone.

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You have my admiration and respect!

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ELYMWX 7/14/2012 5:13PM

    I think you might have said that once or twice :-)

And the reason they (and the car) almost match your outfit is???? I know that a lot of women make sure their shoes and their purses match, but matching your kayaks might be a big much!

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TRAVELNISTA 7/14/2012 5:54AM

    I am so happy your shoulder is back to normal and that you can enjoy your kayaking once again. You look fantastic in that pic! emoticon

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