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MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,406
4/29/14 6:57 P

Thank you Eelpie. I am happy and terrified to be in maintenance.

I second the almond butter. It is delicious.

AZULVIOLETA6 SparkPoints: (0)
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4/29/14 3:52 P

Grrr...I hate it when trainers at gyms decide that they are qualified to give nutrition advice. Most of them don't even have a Bachelor's degree in anything, much less nutrition. IGNORE!

Between your bagel and pizza, the bagel is probably the better choice. However, bagels have a lot of empty calories and carbs. The average bagel these days is WAY more than a single serving--they have become huge. They don't have much meaningful nutritional value and do not do much to keep you full. You might get more nutrition (fiber, vitamins, minerals) for your calorie buck if you had a piece of whole-grain toast (made from something like Dave's Killer Bread) with your peanut butter.

Other things to try which would be WAY better than either pizza or a bagel: yogurt smoothie, cottage cheese and fruit, old-fashioned oatmeal with peanut butter, veggie omelet, etc.

Since you love the bagel and it makes you happy, maybe you should consider having one every other day and alternating with another, healthier choice.

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4/29/14 2:08 P

The only change I would suggest is changing your peanut butter to almond butter, as that is a superfood. Other than that, if you enjoy it, keep with it. You have to live and if you spent all your time 'doing what is best' life would be pretty miserable!

EELPIE Posts: 2,700
4/29/14 1:28 P

Totally off topic, but Mandie congrats on Maintenance!!!!

BABYDOLL_87 SparkPoints: (48,770)
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4/29/14 1:16 P

Most mornings my favorite breakfast is a multigrain bagel with half an avocado mashed on it and a 100cal greek yogurt on the side... the brand I buy for bagel is only 200 calories so that adds up to about that 440 cal mark for everything. Yesterday I opted for special k breakfast with a banana and my yogurt, was starving an Aweful lot quicker before lunch time when can normally wait just fine. If you don't go over your calories throughout the rest of the day and it works for you why not eat it.

YANKEEGIRL6 Posts: 1,183
4/29/14 12:55 P

Did she have a better alternative than pizza in mind for the bagel?

I once had a "trainer" tell me that the apple slices I eat almost daily were a terrible choice and that potato chips would make a better choice. Something about the ratio of carbs, I dunno. Since apple slices are carbs with fiber and nutrition and potato chips are carbs dunked in greased and then dipped in sodium, the logic baffled me.

MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,406
4/29/14 12:45 P

Add me to the vicariously annoyed.

If a bagel and natural peanut butter works for your breakfast. Keeps you satisfied. Then that is fine. I also like a carby breakfast.

Pizza is ok (in moderation) but high in fat. Peanut butter is full of heart healthy fat.

I definitely think that PB on a bagel is a much better choice than pizza.

PINKIEB1 SparkPoints: (29,685)
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4/29/14 12:41 P

If it works for you, then keep doing it. I agree, a trainer shouldn't be offering up nutrition advice - especially pizza! Yes, you can keep it healthy, but there was no qualification!

LEC358 SparkPoints: (11,135)
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4/29/14 12:41 P

I think that poster was thinking that 440 was *all* that the OP was eating.

4/29/14 12:16 P

I'm curious about 440 not being enough as well. i try to keep breakfast around 300 so I can have 2 100 calorie snacks when i feel hungry.

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4/29/14 12:01 P

I, too, am vicariously annoyed.

I also eat a whole wheat bagel with peanut butter for breakfast almost every day, and I find it suits my lifestyle perfectly. It's a good amount of protein and carbs for after my morning runs, and keeps me comfortably satiated until lunchtime. No, there aren't any fruits or veggies in it, but I get those throughout the rest of the day.

I will add that I have been maintaining my weight for about a year now and lead a fairly active lifestyle (running three or four days a week, strength training two or three days a week), and am the fittest I have ever been. If my food choices were terribly unhealthy, I don't think I'd be able to keep up this level of activity for very long.

VEG_GIRL04 Posts: 2,624
4/29/14 11:56 A

AllisonKara01 - how is 440 calories not enough for a breakfast? My breakfast this morning was less than 300 - but packed with fruits and protein. It kept me full, it got me on track for my day, and it had great nutritional value.

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4/29/14 11:29 A

Firstly, 440 calories is not enough. Summers are here. You should consider fruit and nutritional supplements. Consider saturated fats, like coconut. lemonade with honey is good if you don't want fats. As for wheat bagel, farm grain products are quite healthy. Avoid the pizza thing or any other junk food.

EELPIE Posts: 2,700
4/29/14 11:26 A

"I am vicariously annoyed." too!!!

Pizza here (it's NY style), closest equivalent is Sbarro:

1 Slice (201g)
410 Calories
14g Fat
8g Sat Fat
45mg cholesterol
790mg sodium
53g carb
2g fiber
18g protein

4/29/14 11:19 A

Ditto. Pizza seems kind of greasy, and for breakfast? Yeah, theoretically you could make a healthy pizza, but there's nothing wrong with a whole wheat bagel and peanut butter. Whole grains are nutritious, and eaten in controlled amounts, so is peanut butter. I am vicariously annoyed.

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,433
4/29/14 10:43 A

"If it keeps you full and on track, it's a good breakfast"

^ This.

There's nothing at all inherently "unhealthy" about a bagel. Yes they are high calorie and yes they are "carby" but - so what? You report that after eating this 440-calorie breakfast, you eat lightly the rest of the day on other healthy foods including lots of protein and fruit/veg.... I would venture to guess that by the end of the day, your fat/protein/carbs/calories are relatively "in range"... it's working for you - don't change what isn't broke! A very tricky part of this journey is finding "what works for you" and you have found that - so don't let anybody talk it down!

I personally probably wouldn't do well with a bagel breakfast (I have a preference for more volume and probably more protein than such a breakfast would offer), but a bagel is my husband's breakfast of choice (particularly when on the road, as it's easy eating in the car), and it works for him very well. I would never tell him to eat anything else, if that is what he likes and is what sets him up for a positive, healthful, controlled-eating day.

CJGODESS101 SparkPoints: (30,781)
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4/29/14 10:28 A

I think it's just fine for breakfast and as long as it works, why not? You could add in some fruit to go along with it, maybe some berries or even eat some berries as a snack a couple hours later.

SPARK_COACH_JEN Posts: 65,435
4/29/14 9:43 A

I agree with the previous posters. It's a healthy choice and if it's working for you, keep eating it. I also agree that a trainer should not be giving nutritional advice.

Coach Jen

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4/29/14 9:42 A

First of all, a trainer is not qualified to be giving out nutritional advice. So, I would take anything he/she said with a grain of salt (as far as diet is concerned, obviously you should listen to the fitness advice).

Second of all, a whole wheat bagel with PB is a healthy choice for breakfast. If it satisfies you till lunch and is what you want to eat, go for it! I think that it has a nice balance of protein, carbs, and fat for a meal. and 440 isn't that high calorie of a meal either.

If it fits your range and is what you prefer, than that is the perfect choice for your breakfast.

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4/29/14 9:38 A

If it keeps you full and on track, it's a good breakfast. Unless your trainer is also an RD (registered dietitian), she shouldn't be giving out nutritional advice anyway. If she brings it up again, just tell her that you're seeing the results you want from your eating plan and you've engaged her services to help you improve your fitness. End of discussion.

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4/29/14 9:38 A

Hi there. =) I honestly have met a handful of trainers that don't know diddly squat about nutrition. There is no way that pizza is healthier then a whole wheat bagel, whether she was just making your choice sound worse then it was, or she truly believed that. Peanut butter, when eaten moderately, is a healthy source of fat.

Having said that, I think you would benefit from a more balanced breakfast. Bagels are so high in calorie, and perhaps they keep you full for longer then me, but usually I am hungry in an hour or two afterwards. Maybe you could try swapping a bagel for an english muffin, and pair it with some fruit? I love putting sliced bananas with my toasted english muffin and peanut butter, YUM!

To be honest though, if it's working for you and you feel satisfied I wouldn't worry too much. You could make some changes, but I don't think this trainer necessarily knows what they're talking about either.

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4/29/14 9:38 A

your bagel could be made healthier if you ate only half a bagel and added some fruit on the side.

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4/29/14 9:31 A

I recently met with a trainer at my gym. She asked me what I ate for breakfast and I told her "a whole wheat bagel with peanut butter". She said that was not a healthy choice and asked me if I knew how many calories it had. Yes I know, 440 calories which is high, but I tend to eat pretty low the rest of the day, mostly fish, chicken and veggies. Breakfast is my highest calorie meal and it is very rare for me to go over my allotted calories.

I know it may not be the best choice, but it is my favorite breakfast and I really enjoy it. It is 100% whole wheat with natural peanut butter.

She said pizza was a healthier choice. Which I thought was ridiculous. It could be if it was a homemade pizza with whole wheat crust and veggies. But to flat out say that pizza (with no qualifiers) was healthier than a whole wheat bagel with natural peanut butter seems wrong to me.

Do you think it is a bad choice for breakfast?


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