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UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
11/14/12 1:27 P

CAH-RD your previous final statement was something like "not all fluids hydrate the same" and my response of "perhaps in you personally" indicated that you may have experienced some differentiation yourself - every "body" is different - but the statistical results of studies show that all fluid DOES hydrate equally well.

8oz of water that's been passed over some coffee beans is still 8oz of H2O and will still hydrate the body pretty much exactly as well as 8oz of 'water'.

The diuretic effect of coffee has been massively overstated in the past and recent studies are showing it is nowhere near as much as previously thought.

Coffee hydrates. Maybe coffee specifically might still have a very small diuretic effect and not be quite as good as pure water, but it's still providing an overall positive hydration to the body, not a negative one, and other drinks and fluids as well like tea, juice and sodas without caffeine are certainly just as good as water.

11/12/12 5:21 P

I'm thinking of the water counter on the sparkpoint page

CAH-RD Posts: 964
11/12/12 4:02 P

Unident: I'm not understanding what you're saying..."Perhaps in you..."?

I said that not all fluids hydrate the same. Yes, they all count as "liquid." But if you drink 8 oz of water, you're getting water. If you drink 8 oz of cofee, you're getting water with caffeine + extras. In turn, caffeine usually results in diuresis, which is eliminating more fluid (or water as you want to call it) from the body. You will be hydrated differently by various fluids.

NEED2MOVE2 Posts: 1,128
11/10/12 9:39 A

I only count water as water.

11/9/12 7:28 P

very interesting discussion. I think the water-counter on my spark page should be completed more often than it has been!

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
11/9/12 6:55 P

Perhaps in you personally CAH-RD, but statistically speaking, all fluid hydrates. Yes, all drinkable fluids count as "water" for hydration purposes. Heck, some people get absolutely no "pure water" at all - but they're not dying of dehydration, are they?

Water is best.Because you're avoid unnecessary extra calories, chemicals, and caffeine.

But all fluids hydrate. :)

CAH-RD Posts: 964
11/9/12 4:00 P

"Only pure water counts as water." That's something my mother always told me and something I've always stuck with. Now, to add a little bit (like a slice worth) of lemon, lime, orange, mint, etc is something I'd consider "allowable," but I would never think to count "Sparkling water" or all of those waters w/ artificial sweeteners in them as "water."

Soda, coffee, tea, juice, milk, etc, etc all count as "fluids," yes, but fluids are different from water. Not all satisfy thirst the same.

HONEYBEE00 SparkPoints: (2,663)
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11/9/12 3:59 P

YOJULEZ thank you for your response! I kind of thought so, but no one ever says what kind of soda they are talking about. I haven't noticed that it makes me crave sweets, more the opposite. It gives me the sweet I want!

YOJULEZ SparkPoints: (15,605)
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11/9/12 2:24 P

HONEYBEE, the only reason cutting out regular soda "Helps you lose weight" is because you're not consuming the 140-200 empty calories per 12oz can of soda. If you replace regular soda with diet soda, then one could say "diet soda helps you lose weight". But, if you've always drank diet soda, in my opinion, then giving it up does not have any affect on weight loss.

Now, some people have said that drinking diet soda makes them hungrier, or crave sweets more. If you are one of those people, then diet soda might have a negative affect on your weight loss. I drink one diet coke in the mornings, for the caffeine, and it has neither helped nor hindered my weight loss. It just is.

To the OP, I don't count soda towards my water intake, but that's just me. Plus I only have one a day and drinking my 8+ other glasses is no problem at all for me, so there's no reason for me to count it.

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11/9/12 1:29 P

I have a questions when it comes to regular and diet soda. I have been told if you cut out soda, it will help you lose weight. Does this include Diet? I don't drink regular and I only drink one or two cans of diet a day. I know that diet isn't good for you because of all the fake stuff in it, but it is the one vice I cant stop! I tried no soda for two weeks and saw no difference in inches or pounds. I was a weight watchers member years ago, and I switched from regular to diet because diet had no points. So does cutting diet make a difference in the weight department?

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
11/9/12 10:14 A

My experience with soda has been that it makes me thirsty. Whether this is because of sodium, or caffeine I have no idea. So I just stick to 10-15 glasses of water a day.

I guess technically you could count a 2 liter of pop as 8.5 glasses of fluids. Mercury is also a fluid. I wouldn't recommend drinking either, but I am sure you know this. Just limit it to as little as possible. Personally, I think diet soda is worse than regular. At least people don't think it is okay to drink regular soda.

DIDS70 Posts: 5,070
11/9/12 10:02 A

Since i basically only drink water, I don't count it. I can count on one hand the amount of non-water I drink in a week.
I never thought of soda as counting to my liquids since it is not good for you with all the additives and preservatives and fake sugar even in the diet blends.

ELOQUENTZ SparkPoints: (6,824)
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11/9/12 9:46 A

I personally challenge myself that water is water and other beverages (especially caffeinated ones) counts as negative water. So, for every cup of coffee I drink, I try to drink a cup of water in addition to what I already drink. I don't find this too hard as I am thirsty not long after coffee. I drink a ton of water though and don't really have to count my water.

Best advice I ever got years ago was to first drink water. Then see if you're still hungry or still want that coffee or pop.

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
11/9/12 9:38 A

Actually the technical answer is no. Water and ice do not occupy the same volume. If you melt a quart of ice, you will get less than a quart of water. Test it yourself at home to see what the difference is - but it's not going to be a huge difference.

MISSRUTH Posts: 3,670
11/9/12 7:02 A

If you poured a 20 oz. soda into a quart jar and then filled the jar to the rim with ice.... And then drank the soda plus the melted ice (or ate the ice).... that would be (4) 8 oz. cups of "water". As Unident noted, all fluids count; it does not have to be specifically "water".

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
11/9/12 2:37 A

Anything wet counts.

Ice counts. The soda also counts. Tea, coffee, milk, juice and smoothies count.

Just because someone adds some flavourings, preservatives, and/or other things into water doesn't make it "not water" any more.

11/9/12 1:31 A

So if I pour a 20 oz soda into a quart jar and fill it to the rim with ice i get to claim 12 oz water?

I should add...this was a diet soda and a rare diet soda at that. But, i was just curious if ice counts, cause we sure use a ton of it

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