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TIME2BLOOM4ME SparkPoints: (144,646)
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4/7/13 10:26 A

It depends on your tolerance too. If you can't stop eating a treat then there is no moderation or self-control. For me its easier to not eat the things that temp you.

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4/6/13 11:27 P

Clearly moderation depends on perspective

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4/6/13 11:06 P

To me, moderation is more about doing things differently while moderating the stuff you like. I think it's been a couple of years since I had a donut, and it didn't taste that good to me last time. It was too sweet and not fulfilling, and I was still hungry. This year, I have been making brownies with avocado and black beans, and they are sweet enough unlike typical brownies. Even my husband and daughter like them.

I understand the definition varies widely to other people, which is fine. It's just that I doubt I'll eat donuts again when I can have other choices to have. It's not the same as saying never again to sweets I'd want. That's not what moderation means to me.

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
4/6/13 3:43 P

You say :

Moderate means "kept or keeping within reasonable or proper limits; not extreme, excessive, or intense".

And then that you don't like the phrase "everything in moderation" because "Sometimes there isn't a reasonable amount and zero is the better choice."

Well, that's moderation! You just defined moderate as a 'reasonable amount' so if there's no actual positive amount that's reasonable, zero is the 'reasonable amount', so having zero is "moderate".

But anyway, remember as well - "everything in moderation, including moderation". Sometimes it's okay to blow out or be under or have a treat or fast treats for a while. Even moderation needs to be moderate!

LOUNMOUN Posts: 1,308
4/6/13 9:38 A

I think it is a good point that it is important to make what are moderate lifestyle choices for you as an individual.
Moderate means "kept or keeping within reasonable or proper limits; not extreme, excessive, or intense". Moderation doesn't mean that everyone is doing/eating exactly the same thing or that simply doing more or less than someone else is being moderate.
I think moderation is a good approach to many issues. For me, it is an excellent approach to long term diet and exercise changes. I do not like the "everything in moderation" phrase though. Sometimes it is better for me to not be in a certain environment, partake in an activity or consume a certain thing because even at a moderate level it is just bad for me. Sometimes there isn't a reasonable amount and zero is the better choice.






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4/6/13 12:56 A

What is 'the norm' ???? One person's normal is another deprivation or obsession. It doesn't matter that everyone else around you may be pigging out and very poor choices. By doing the same, even if at a reduced amount, it isn't going to prevent your getting overweight - it MIGHT mean that you don't get overweight at the same rate, tho'! The same with exercise or the lack thereof. In this regard we need to forget what everyone else is doing and just get on with what WE know we need to do to take care of OUR health. If that means abstaining from excessive eating, or not eating junk as often, and getting off the couch more than someone else, then so be it.

Kris

DANISARANAC1 Posts: 261
4/5/13 7:16 P

The only time the term "moderate" comes up in my day is on my BodyMedia dashboard, it lets me know if how many minutes of moderate exercise I get a day, which, for me, is just typical daily activities. Everything else, I shoot for extraordinary! Lol.

LILLIPUTIANNA Posts: 1,038
4/5/13 6:30 P

I try to live a life of moderation. I think of it more as "the middle path," as some spiritual practices say.

For the most part, I can tell when something is excessive. For example I could eat four donuts, but I know that's excessive. I will however have a donut on occasion. Yesterday, I had a vegan donut. It was delicious.

At the same time, I walk five miles for exercise. I could stay at home and talk to everyone on facebook all day...but that would be bad, and excessively lazy. I could also walk those five miles, then push myself to do five more...but that would be excessive, and probably give me blisters on my feet. So, I walk the five miles...because it's a nice medium.



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4/5/13 3:05 P

UNIDENT well said.
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UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
4/5/13 2:52 P

"is it "moderate" to eat just one donut when everyone else is eating two? "

It's not about other people.

Have you been eating 4 donuts a day for the last six years? Then yeah, 1 donut is good moderation. Have you been a health nut with a perfect diet for six months? Then no, a donut at all isn't very moderate.

Moderation comes from 'moderate', meaning mid-range, average, middle of the road. YOUR road. Not other people's roads.

What is moderation comes down to - what are you used to? And it isn't going to be the same lifestyle now that you'll have in six months, or 12 months. You will change, and pick up new habits, and change what is "moderation" for you, personally.

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
4/5/13 2:50 P

"I don't agree with "everything in moderation" and never have. I made choices that may not be the norm, but I am completely happy with them. "

That's because you're missing the other half of that exceptionally wise advice:

"Everything in moderation, including moderation."



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4/5/13 2:15 P

Well put, madam, well put. Moderation is important when you're indulging in something. A "treat," perhaps or eating a couple of someone's fries.

Part of losing weight is not necessarily getting "obsessive," about it, but it does tend to be the forefront of almost every aspect of your life. I don't think this is a bad thing.

In fact, it is an amazing thing.

If you're always thinking about it, then you will be more likely to sustain a lifestyle where it becomes something you do without thinking.

If you push it to the back of your mind, you will be less likely to be conscious about the choices you make. The best advice I can give is to prepare your meals in advance and STICK WITH IT!

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DIDS70 Posts: 5,088
4/5/13 1:39 P

I don't agree with "everything in moderation" and never have. I made choices that may not be the norm, but I am completely happy with them.

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4/5/13 1:14 P

A-freaking-men!

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4/5/13 1:10 P

I've been trying to build a "moderate" lifestyle (not dieting, not getting obsessive) -- but realize that it's not so simple.

is it "moderate" to eat just one donut when everyone else is eating two?

or to order a "small" fries when everyone else is order large?

Is "moderate" exercise ten minutes more than the zero your husband is doing?

Am realizing that "moderate" is a lot more than just NOT doing what others around you are doing. It actually means making intentional choices, and eating/exercising without starving yourself or getting silly about it!

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