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2/6/14 10:11 A

Cortanas are very very cushioned. I haven't tried Hokas, they are too ugly for me to fathom, sorry.

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2/6/14 9:59 A

Yes, my impression of the 4 mm drop deal is that they are "maximalist", or the exact opposite of minimalist shoes, with maximum cushioning.

Zorbs, may I ask if you have tried Hokas? The Cortanas that you mentioned- are they more along max cushioning, too?

I may have to read up on pro/con of cushioning. Thanks!

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2/5/14 2:30 P

lower heel drop ≠ barefoot/minimalist.

I used to wear Saucony Cortanas, which have a 4 mm drop but huge amounts of cushioning.

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2/5/14 1:49 P

For years, I was taught that when running, you should strike heel first. That's why today's running shoes have that extra cushioning in the heel. However, like others, I too have been reading (and watching youtube videos) on running with the mid strike. So, like others, I've been trying to consciously use a mid strike stride.

I found this video to be helpful.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=humkZAtZVW0


I also read that when learning to run mid strike, it feels as if you're running on your tip toes. And that doesn't feel natural to me because when I walk, I heel strike.

If you don't have any pre-existing foot or ankle problems, you might try some minimialist running shoes. Because some days, walking barefoot really does feel a lot better than walking in shoes.

Do you have a good running store near you ? Why not try on a few pairs of minimalist shoes and see how they feel on the store treadmill. That might change the way you strike when you run.




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2/5/14 1:23 P

Zorbs,

True. Thanks.

I guess the reason underying my question is this- for longer distances tthan 5k, which i am interested in training for more regularly, I am thinking a more cushioned shoe would be appealing for me. The ones I have seen on the market seem to suggest that they aid in a mid-foot strike style.

The Hoka is a 4 mm drop, i believe, which if I understand correctly encourages mid-foot strike. The Skechers GoRun Ultra sounds like a knock-off of a Hoka, but there is an added insert that has the drop at 8 mm. Regardless, it is also supposed to encourage the mechanics for a mid-foot strike......

I guess I can always stay with my Ravenna series. I had a Saucony Guide 6, switched to Ravenna 3, which I liked better preciselky because I thought it seemed more cushioned to me, which led me to think, more cushioning!

Thanks.

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2/5/14 11:42 A

this is my opinion and not backed up by ANY scientific background whatsoever.

if you are getting injured a lot, trying a midfoot strike may be something you want to try.

if you are not getting injured, if it ain't broke, why fix it?

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2/5/14 11:10 A

Now you've opened a can of worms :P

The stuff I've been reading lately seems to suggest that real difficulty comes when you improperly try to change your running form but there's no real advantage to mid vs heel strike when wearing conventional shoes. This article from USA Triathalon summarizes it pretty well: m.usatriathlon.org/about-multisport/multis
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strike-debate-022812.aspx


Chi running is a style of barefoot, right? Most of what I read suggests that while barefoot running is fine, you have to be careful about the transition from conventional shoes to bare feet. Sorry I'm not more help but I'm a natural forefoot striker who has zero interest in transitioning to bare foot. :P

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2/5/14 11:03 A

I am also interested in this. I naturally heel strike, have tried consciously to mid-foot strike, but I just end up slapping my feet down really hard in what seems to be a totally unnatural manner.

I want to run right but it seems counter intuitive to try and run with a mid-foot strike if it isn't one's natural running style.


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2/5/14 10:42 A

Hello,

I think I have a clear heel strike in my natural running form. I have read a fw articles about how mid-foot strike is a better and more efficient running technique, and even see multiple shoe brands with shoes that seem to encourage mid-foot strike.

Hokas might be like that, not sure.

Any thoughts on that? if I am interested in chi running, that is more of a mid-foot strike, correct?

Thank you for your input.

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