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NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
6/5/13 1:52 A

SARAH - that's great that your doctor is going to do tests right away. Don't be nervous about gall bladder disease -- honestly it's a good diagnosis because it's extremely curable -- taking out the gallbladder solves the problem! The operation to remove a gall bladder is nearly always done laparoscopically anymore. That means you won't have scarring to speak of. (I have one tiny scar that no one can see, the other 3 tinier scars are totally gone!) The operation is 1 hour and usually followed by 1 night in the hospital and then you go home. I was back to normal within about 10 days and I had a very slow recovery, most people take much less than that but I had a lot of complications (not from the surgery which went perfectly but from before with my complicated case). The surgery itself is not bad as surgery goes and once it's gone, it's gone and you never have to worry about it again. I found that I could eat pretty much normally within a month or two and the only eating restriction that I have is that now, I can't eat much past 8pm (most people don't anyway but I live in Greece where dinner is usually around 11pm -- I just eat earlier) and I can't eat fried food in large quantities (probably for the best, right?) because it makes me feel queasy, but this is nothing compared to gall bladder issues.

Keep us updated, I'd like to know what the doc says. Good luck and hugs!!!

SARAHMO4 Posts: 335
6/4/13 7:28 P

Thanks for all the advice! The things I keep noticing are I feel bloated or like theirs something in my tummy. As for my stools, very liquid like, yellow and a good amount of gas or burping at times. My doctor said to call her Thursday to see how I was doing. If things didn't improve she was wanting to do an ultrasound and another test to test my gallbladder or see if their were stones.

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
6/4/13 7:09 P

LOVE4KITTIES - I had the same thing! The beyond infected, about to rupture, basically dead gall bladder. I also lucked out and got the best gall bladder surgeon in my country (not a very big country, but still!) and he did a beautiful laparoscopic surgery despite the complications. I'm glad you got great care, but it really sucks that you and your mom suffered for so long. I'm glad we're ALL gall bladder free now :D

Edited by: NAUSIKAA at: 6/4/2013 (19:09)
LOVE4KITTIES Posts: 4,690
6/4/13 2:26 P

I had a friend in college who had to have her gallbladder removed when she was about 20.

I had my gallbladder removed 5 years ago. I think I'd been having problems with it for years, but I thought that it was just because I was getting older (it started when I was in my late 20s/early 30s). I'd watched my mom through the years and she couldn't eat this and then a couple of years later, she couldn't eat that, etc. so I thought it was what happened as you aged. Well, I was wrong. Turns out that my mom had been having gallbladder problems for years and years (she had to have hers out). Even after that, I thought I just had acid reflux, was getting older, couldn't eat chili (etc.) anymore. Then, I started having some bad stomachaches with vomiting after eating high fat meals. I just had a few of these instances. I thought I'd just overindulged.

Then, one evening, after eating a higher fat meal, I got a severe stomachache and started vomiting. But, it didn't go away after a couple of hours like the other ones had. I was in severe pain with vomiting for most of the night, until I went to the ER. I was told it was probably my gallbladder, given pain meds, nausea meds and sent home with instructions to see my doctor in the morning. Did that. He asked me if I felt like I needed to be in the hospital because, otherwise, I'd have to wait 2 days for an ultrasound (or, if I felt like I needed to be hospitalized, I could get it that day). Silly me, I said I'd be okay. Waited 2 days. Couldn't eat anything and couldn't hardly drink anything for 2 days. When I went for the ultrasound, they said I needed to go straight to the emergency room to be admitted and get my gallbladder out. Fortunately, my doctor called in a favor with a friend and had me bypass that and got me an appt with a surgeon (his friend, who happened to be on call that day) instead. I had to wait for an operating room until 11pm that night and then had my gallbladder out. Fortunately, my surgeon was the chief of laparoscopic surgery and was able to do it laparoscopically, but he had a hard time (my gallbladder was necrotic and on the verge of rupture and there was a lot of inflammation in my abdomen). I think that, with anyone else, I would have had to have the open surgery. I felt such relief as soon as I woke up from the surgery and I cannot even tell you how great it's been having that nasty little organ filled with stones out. Amazingly, I can now eat whatever I want (except red bell peppers, which have always upset my tummy) and I have no more acid reflux and no more indigestion. So, it was my gallbladder for years...

I guess what I'm saying is that, if you have a gallbladder issue, it's typically easy to diagnose with an ultrasound. If you have gallstones and you've been having problems like you've been having, you are symptomatic for the gallstones. It's a personal choice, of course, but I'd get it removed. I wouldn't try to manage it with diet and hold on to it for a few more years or whatever because I don't see holding on to a diseased, unneeded, organ as desirable. I see it as risky and unpleasant (because you will still probably have some symptoms, no matter what your diet, and also because no one ever eats a perfect diet and you will slip up and have symptoms). I also don't think it's worth it because, if you have a scheduled surgery, they will (barring unforseen complications) be able to remove it laparoscopically. If you wait and it turns into an emergency, you are really risking necrosis (which can lead to sepsis, which is life-threatening), rupture (also life-threatening and I've been told that bile peritonitis is horrible), pancreatitis, etc. and you also risk having to have a full, open, surgery (which is what my mom had to have and it wasn't pleasant for her). One of the best things ever was for me to have that (as someone else said) wretched little organ out.

Edited by: LOVE4KITTIES at: 6/4/2013 (14:43)
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6/4/13 1:23 P

I was having these very similar problems for about a year. Extremely loose, yellow stools and (often (dare I say "mostly") 'explosive') diarrhea. This would happen generally within 15 minutes of eating. It was horrific. I had several ultrasound scans done on my gallbladder, liver, etc that revealed fatty liver but nothing severe enough to be the cause of my symptoms. My doc had me convinced it was my gallbladder or liver or some other part of my digestive system. They wanted to do several more expensive scans (MRI??) which would have cost me about $10K after my insurance, to which I said "no", because who can afford that? After tons of googling and reading what some others had to say, I decided to eliminate high fructose corn syrup, artificial sweeteners, most dairy, soy and gluten (among a few other things). Within a week I had normal bowel movements. NO LIE! If I go for a several week stretch where I incorporate 'junk foods' with the HFCS, soy and gluten I will begin to see a creep toward those old symptoms. I believe my symptoms were a result of inflammation and irritation in my gut. If you are as miserable as I was, it may be worth a try to change the diet and see how that works for you.

**Update: I don't mean to minimize a legitimate gallbladder issue. In my case, ultrasound revealed no problem with my gallbladder, so I decided to see if my diet (which was horrible at the time) was a factor. For me, it was, and I'm glad I didn't go $10K in debt over a maybe. If ultrasound had had different results, I'd most likely have opted for the recommended course of treatment.

Edited by: CBR0422UNCW at: 6/4/2013 (15:14)
RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
6/4/13 10:44 A

I had mine removed in Feb 2011. I was fine, and doing great, and then I just started having extreme pain on my side. They popped it out the next day, and I was home 6 hours later after doing laps in the hospital till they got tired of me. Easiest surgery I ever had. A 1.5" scar.

I would avoid grease, and talk to your doctor. Removal of the gallbladder is not unusual, but if surgery can be avoided, it is a more desirable option, right? Even easy surgery is still surgery.

My only difference was in the color of my It was white for a week. I eat a high fat diet now, with no problems. I thought that I would have to eat a low fat diet, but the doctor said it wouldn't be an issue. Of course he would prefer I STILL eat a low fat diet, but not to prevent pain. The gallbladder is gone, after all.

Try reduced greasiness in your menu, and see if it works. Maybe you can add a few years to it before the warranty runs out. Hope it makes you feel better. If problems still persist, removal might be a better option, rather than you feeling like poo for months, or even years. Your doctor and you will have to make that call.

THINKPINK06 Posts: 1,450
6/4/13 8:04 A

I was 23 when I had mine removed. I started having problems when I was in college. I had gain quite a bit of weight like most college students. I had multiple gallstones. That was 27 years ago.

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
6/4/13 7:58 A

Just a quick note -- I didn't mean to have your gallbladder removed if it's not been 100% diagnosed as gallbladder disease, sorry if that wasn't clear. It's an easy diagnosis, if the doctor is willing to do an ultrasound, I would say the best thing you can do for yourself is seek a definitive diagnosis. No way would you have an organ removed without being 100% sure that that was the cause of the problem!! :)

CMCOLE Posts: 2,667
6/4/13 7:21 A

How awful.
Strangely, one doctor I saw thought I may have gallbladder issues, when it was my kidney stones acting up.

Glad you have a doctor doing research before cutting/hacking.

I'd speak to someone knowledgeable about a change in menu, and see if that settles it down, first, before taking out my organs.

I do know there are discussions about Whole30 and a few other menus that have helped people avoid surgery, but each person is different, so I'm not making any suggestions, as I'm not a trained medical professional

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6/4/13 6:41 A

re the colour of the stools - my hubby's were normal colour. (I didn't normally make a habit of looking at them - LOL!)


NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
6/4/13 6:37 A

I had my gallbladder removed in 2010 at the age of 29. Unfortunately, I didn't have a good doctor like you do -- I had to wait 3 years from the onset of the gallbladder disease in 2007, until 2010 for it to be diagnosed. In fact I was diagnosed with panic disorder because my doctor thought my gallbladder attacks were panic attacks! Finally had it removed in 2010 and it changed my life -- I feel like a new person ever since! Having that wretched organ removed was the best thing I ever did :) Get an ultrasound -- gallstones are VERY easy to diagnose (sadly my doctor was too incompetent to realize that) with a simple ultrasound. Once you know, you can act.

So, as far as symptoms go, while I had my gallbladder I was unable to control the symptoms on my own so I took Dramamine (the motion sickness drug) daily to try to keep the nausea to a level that would allow me to go to work. Fatty foods sometimes bothered me and sometimes didn't -- potato chips actually helped but other fried foods made it worse. Since I thought it was panic attacks anyway, I didn't put a lot of effort into experimenting with foods, but arugula was one of the worst. Once I was diagnosed my surgeon gave me a list of foods to avoid in the 4 or 5 days between diagnosis and surgery -- and arugula was the top of the list! So I would say definitely avoid that at all costs!! Fatty meat was pretty bad for me too.

Not to be too graphic here but when you go to the bathroom (#2), does it seem kind of light colored compared to how it normally would be? That is a huge sign of gallbladder disease because it means that fat is not being digested properly. I had that and didn't really think anything of it. But it is another sign.

It's important to get an ultrasound so you know what it is, because if it's not gallbladder, it might be something else and you need to find out so you can stop dealing with the discomfort. Please don't give up, I don't want anyone to go through 3 years of misery like I did. Slice that thing right outta there and move on with your life :)

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6/4/13 6:10 A

My husband had gallbladder issues and yes, fat can cause this problem altho' it didn't with him. My suggestion is that the Dr does further investigations to see just what is going on, so that it can be rectified. There are other things that it can be, too. Hubby also had Crohn's disease and recurring kidney stones. We found out a long time after the Crohn's was diagnosed, (which in turn was a long time after the other 2 were diagnosed and treated) that Crohn's disease can cause issues with gall-stones (which is what hubby had and which in turn caused the gall-bladder to need removing) and kidney stones. You may find it helpful to ask to be referred to a Gastroenterologist, and depending on the outcome, a Dietitian.

Good luck,

SARAHMO4 Posts: 335
6/4/13 6:05 A

Has anyone hear had Gallbladder issues or their Gallbladder removed at my age? I am 27 and since last Thursday nausea, bloating, and some tiredness have been happening and my doctor thinks it might be my Gallbladder. I am not sure, food that are oily or have a lot of fat I can eat. Within an hour most cause discomfort followed by bad cramping and diarrhea. I don't feel this is normal and eating mild foods seems to be the best solution. Any advice would be great.

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