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LENKA763 Posts: 2,395
2/20/12 10:51 A

I'm not a personal trainer, but have been doing zumba and ST for quite a while.

I still do both, but I do feel"challenged" doing zumba toning almost to the point when I do ST.

SERGEANTMAJOR Posts: 6,418
2/19/12 9:42 P



SMCS28

I am a certified personal trainer with the appropriate credentials. please check my profile. To assume that I am not familiar with a programme I am commenting and giving an opinion on seems a bit out of line to me, however you are entitled to your opinion The current research on combination workouts indicates that they are not an effective way to train and the use of mini weights weighing less or the same as objects that are picked up and carried everyday will not build strength or increase muscularity.

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2/19/12 7:05 P

Sorry if it came across as though I was arguing because I wasn't. I dont like confrontation, negativity any of that stuff.. I really dislike it when ppl who are farther on their journey to fitness and wellness come off as snarky and rude all because somone who is just starting asks a question. Everything I have read has perputrated the myth of bulking up regardless of gender, if thats a myth then great. =) To me strong is somone that can pick up heavy items not someone that can do normal everyday things.. diffrent definitions for diffrent folks I guess.. I do appriciate you clearing up the myth of bulking up.. =) maybe I'll be more wiling to weight lift now... I just dont think I'll be posting much on these message boards.. I joined this site looking for the support like I get on Richard Simmons facebook page.. love , kindness, helpful tricks tips and information not to have ppl come off the way Sargent did sounding biting and rude that may not have been that person's intent but when you dont put little smilie faces or ( sarcasm) in your posts all ppl can do is take it the way that it is written.. Factual information is very helpful Sergant couldve have posted the info in a much more polite way..

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2/19/12 5:21 P

Okay ladies, I have to side with sergeant major here.

You can't "tone" a muscle. You can label it however you want. If you want the physical appearance with the description of looking toned, you need to build muscle and lose fat. Period.
99% of women will not "bulk up" or become a body builder by lifting weights. This is complete myth that frustrates me to no end. You do NEED to be strong. to lift your children, carry groceries, even wash your hair. Also strength training is the only way to keep bone density as we age. This is especially crucial for post menopausal women.

SergeantMajor is right with respect to muscle fatigue. However, If 1-2lbs weights and controlled reps fatigues your muscles then congrats you are strength training. If you do a couple Zumba tracks in between sets, then there's your cardio. There is nothing wrong with that. It sounds like a lighter boot-camp or circuit training class.

If we are going to argue here, lets pick different sides and not accuse people trying to help based on ill-informed semantics.

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2/19/12 1:34 P

Thank You SMC =) I have arthritis and fibromyalgia Im not someone that could probaly lift heavier weights and I dont have that "I need to be stronger" body builder type mentality its just not me. What I want to do is sculpt long lean muscles and Sergant who cares if toning is a dancing term they use it in dance all the time dancing is exercise. You've never seen a hefty balleria have you?? Many of us women want to look lean firm and have scultped muscles I know some women that want to bulk up and look like a body builder I dont want to look like that.. to each their own.., I just dont see the need to put somone down for asking a question. If you haven't worked out in ages ( like me) you seek all the information you can find no reason to be rude about it. If you can't say something nice....

Edited by: DVLSH161401 at: 2/19/2012 (13:38)
GOPINTOS SparkPoints: (32,922)
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2/19/12 10:52 A

I have only done the 20 minute dvd so far but when I log it, it is listed on the Fitness Tracker as cardio.

VRS8440 Posts: 4,016
2/19/12 2:26 A

Like using the toning sticks in class

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2/18/12 9:46 P

I have the toning sticks, but I've never used them to this day.

VPGIRL06 Posts: 942
2/18/12 9:41 P

Try it out. Do your muscles feel fatigued after doing the reps/sets in the exercise? Are you sore then next day, especially after your first time trying it? Was it a challenge to finish the last reps of a certain exercise? Did you feel your muscles being worn out after the workout was done?

If so, I say it was a good replacement for strength training.

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2/18/12 9:16 P

btw when we're doing the "weight" part we're not DANCING with the weights....if you did that you wouldn't have proper form and hurt yourself....we stop and concentrate on movements....

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2/18/12 9:14 P

I dunno....i do zumba with weights and I find it hard.....we make sure we're doing proper form, and no, I can't do more than 12 reps at a time....

Before you post putting something down you might want to actually TRY it.....for people who HATE strength training, this is a good place to start...

SERGEANTMAJOR Posts: 6,418
2/18/12 6:13 P


First thing is there is no such thing as toning in the physical training world, it is a beauty and marketing term.Dancing with mini weights will not count as strength training it is cardio with light weights. To increase strength and muscularity you need to use weights which challenge you muscles to the degree you can not do more than 8 to 12 repetitions with proper form.

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2/18/12 10:19 A

Hi I've never tried Zumba or the Zumba Toning. I do have a dvd that has a toning workout with "salsa bars" they are handheld weights that weigh about 1 and 1/2 lbs each, and are designed for toning. I think most of us think of strength training as lifting weights heavy enough to cause muscle fatigue. I prefer to lift lighter weights for toning though since I have to sometimes lift ppl at my job I should go lift some for strength training =)

If you try the Zumba stuff let us know if you like it. My mom just bought the set off tv and she says she is hooked on it. She doesn't need to loose weight but mom loves to workout she's always liked to exercise.. I would suggest asking the instructor before class if you can, after class if that works better.. Have fun with your class =)

SUSAN_FOSTER Posts: 1,228
2/18/12 7:35 A

Personally I wouldn't count it as strength training. If you are combining dancing with weights it is doubtful that you are going to be working with weights that take you to the point of muscle exhaustion.

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2/18/12 4:10 A

Hi everyone,

So will the Zumba toning class take the place of strength training? A SP member said it gives you an all-over body workout. Any additional information would be much appreciated!

200LTH



Edited by: 200LBSTOOHEAVY at: 2/18/2012 (04:13)
BLOND_KIRA Posts: 80
2/17/12 8:26 P

It is a strength workout with some cardio. It really depends on your instructor but trust me your muscles will burn just like a strength workout. You still dance your way through it all but you get those muscles toned! I hope you like it.

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2/17/12 3:10 P

Hi All,
I was wondering if any of the Zumba'ers could answer a questions for me.....Zumba Toning. The Rec center near me is offering a Zumba toning class and I've signed up for it. now, can anyone tell me what I've just gotten myself into??

Has anyone done this class, and can you tell me what kind of workout it is? I know with the light weights it's not like a strength training class, but is it still a good all-over body workout and still cardio?

Thanks or the help!!

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