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WAY2GOCAT
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7/30/12 6:00 P

I think it's OK to fast for religious reasons, however, not for weight loss.



NIGHTFLOAT
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7/30/12 5:38 P

For religious/political/whatever? Ok.

For weight loss? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER.

Signed,
Daughter of an anorexic



PT.JEFFGIRL
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7/30/12 5:24 P

Negative.



HEALTHYBYSUNNAH
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7/30/12 5:00 P

Well as Muslim it is Ramadan, the month of Fasting and I think it's great. :)



DPOWERS18
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7/30/12 12:25 P

You WILL lose weight by fasting, but once you start eating again you will more than likely gain it all back. Most of the weight lost is just fluids and obviously the lack of any food in the digestive tract. Another problem is that once you start eating again, there's a really good chance that you will get constipated.



SHERRIE59
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7/30/12 12:18 P

Not good but I have no choice but to do so during work days as the office helper is a bitch.



BIGDOG1969
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7/30/12 11:53 A

Don't fast.



MANDIETERRIER1
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7/30/12 11:30 A

My thoughts is that I am very concerned for this young girl. That she will correlate quick weight loss with starving herself. Not good in my opinion.





ARMSPORTS
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7/30/12 7:51 A

If done for religious or political reasons, etc. that is a personal choice. If done for health reasons you are making a mistake.



DLDROST
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7/30/12 7:27 A

N E V E R



PATTOMMC3
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7/30/12 7:23 A

Nope!



SRBSRB26
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7/30/12 7:21 A

hate fasting



PUNKYPA
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7/30/12 6:59 A

Good for you



DURANGOREDDOG
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7/30/12 4:11 A

Fasting doesn't work for me. I get light-headed and feel too badly trying to go without food. It just isn't worth it in my case.



SPARKER87
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7/30/12 3:15 A

I myself support religious or spiritual fasting. I'm native american and there are some ceremonies that require fasting. I was a bit upset at the choices this girl made. I thought maybe she did them as a survival discipline technique; but my sister hangs out with her and she said the girl was also taking laxatives and diet pills!!! Such a sad choice. My sister said she was very cranky. With that much dedication to not eating---you think she would turn that kind of control into something positive. I also think it was an attempt to get attention on Facebook. She did get lots of attention--sadly.



RICCILYNN
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7/24/12 4:02 P

There is such a vast difference between fasting and what the girl you know did... many others have already posted about that so I won't reiterate it. If you want to know what people think about the "cleanse" that the girl did my opinion is that she is stupid to put her body through that - it is unhealthy and very dangerous. If she keeps doing them then she will do serious damage to her body, much like buliemics wind up doing. A teenage body is developing and needs all the proper nutrition it can get. If it gets continually starved it will stop producing needed hormones and enzymes.

A fast, on the other hand, is OK for a day or so if the person allows for water and at least some form of nutrition. And I wouldn't do it more than once a month for more than a day or two at a time... especially in the teenage years... it's just too much for a developing body...



RGBIGUN
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7/24/12 2:41 P

Very necessary discipline.



GARDENDIVA2
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7/24/12 2:40 P

Giantsteps, that special lemonaide is most likely sugar water. However, I fully agree with your first statement. Our bodies really do maintain themselves if we eat a healthy diet and exercise.



GIANT-STEPS
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7/24/12 2:28 P

The human body cleans and detoxifies itself constantly; Under normal nothing beyond eating a healthy diet is necessary. All that said I still do Master Cleanser from time to time. I think the theory behind it is bogus but there is something about the special lemonade that makes it easier to stay on than other fasts. I've never made it to the prescribed 10 days; the longest I ever stayed on it was 7. Yes, I drop a few pounds quickly and no I don't necessarily gain them back as soon as I go off my fast. A healthy person can handle the stress of a fast though those with medical conditions should avoid them or at least consult their doctor first.



JANWHOSOEVER
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7/24/12 1:14 P

We fast one day a month as a church, just to be able to focus on prayer without the distraction of meal prep, eating and clean-up. (It really frees up some time in my day). I haven't seen that it has made any difference on my weight loss, but its just one day.
To do it for weight loss- not a good idea. As far as de-tox, from everything I have read, there is no concrete evidence of it working.
I don't get the "juice fast". I read a book by a woman who did a very extended one (like a year or close to). As for me, I prefer to chew my calories. I avoid drinking them.



STRANGER70127
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7/24/12 1:05 P

I believe in sanctification by prayer not by manipulation of what I eat. Also I believe true fasting is sharing the food that you have with someone who is hungry like it says in Holy Scripture Isaiah 58. God never wanted people to abuse themselves.

Edited by: STRANGER70127 at: 7/30/2012 (12:28)


HAPPYWRITER7
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7/24/12 1:04 P

still recovering from a fast I did MONTHS ago



CHOOWY
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7/24/12 1:01 P

I'm a hiker and two years ago I decided to try a two day fast for the purpose of building self confidence in my own survival abilities if I ever got lost or injured on a hike. It was limited to two days, and I was successful. It did boost my confidence!

Having done all the crash diets in my teenage years, I know now that that just isn't the way to lasting weight loss. It screws up the metabolism and leaves me famished, and eventually I would just put the weight back on and more.

Even this week, I'm fighting the temptation to lose more than 2 pounds a week.



KEELYME
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7/24/12 11:28 A

I think that fasting for weight loss is a bad idea, and possibly messes up the body's metabolism. The only experience that I have with hard core fasting was food poisoning, which caused me to lose 5 lbs in 5 days. Within about two weeks of eating again, the weight came back.

I have known a few people who were obese and diagnosed with diabetes and put on liquid diets by their doctors in order to drop weight quickly. It was effective but did not look the least bit enjoyable.

The only time I'll even consider a fast now is when I've really been eating too much (usually bad) food consistentily. My digestive system seems to get totally backed up to the point where I'm constipated and can eat nothing but a few carrot sticks for 2-3 days and not once feel hungry.

Edited by: KEELYME at: 7/24/2012 (11:30)


FIRECOM
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7/24/12 11:26 A

I have done it in the past but no longer. It always led to ravenous eating. Secondly, because of my diabetes, it simply would not be allowed.



PENNYPACKER3
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7/24/12 11:10 A

sounds like torture to me. I am grateful I have these grapes to eat as a snack.



CHALL345
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7/24/12 11:02 A

none!



07SOJO
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7/24/12 11:01 A

I've never really tried it. I hear it's good to not only skip a meal or two, but helps your system. Don't know.



PENNYPACKER3
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7/24/12 10:46 A

My thoughts are NO FREAKIN' WAY !



CAMEOSUN
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7/24/12 10:35 A

Tried it once, couldn't make it through a whole day though.



PT.JEFFGIRL
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7/24/12 10:22 A

I can't do it, but I wouldn't do it.



SPACEBOT1
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7/24/12 10:20 A

I think it's potentially extremely psychologically damaging as well as physically. Obviously religious fasts are a completely different issue and people still eat at specific times anyway. But to be congratulating someone on starving themselves like it's something to be proud of, like it's some great triumph of strength instead of a stupid and dangerous thing to do to your body is almost as stupid and thoughtless as the starving itself.
That sort of positive attention and re-inforcement of such behaviour could cause it to become compulsive.



TSINCLAIR1965
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7/24/12 9:39 A

not for me



MOTOMAMA
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7/24/12 9:00 A

I think a lot of people do it for reasons that work for them (religious or health) and aren't hurting themselves. I don't really think starving yourself for days on end is good for your body. I can't go more than a few hours without food or I start to get dizzy, anxious, and my mind starts to get all fuzzy.



JEANIEMARIE1946
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7/24/12 8:50 A

A very good thing to do for a day here and there. I do not think that fasting should be done for more than a day at a time.



LATTELEE
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7/24/12 8:46 A

A short term option



NEWSTARTSPARK
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7/24/12 8:44 A

I will for short periods for spiritual reasons, but never for wt control



KKKAREN
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7/24/12 8:34 A

It's not for me.



TRYINGHARD54
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7/24/12 8:22 A

The only time I fast is, if I'm having blood work done... thats all its good for.



OLIVIANIGHT
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7/24/12 8:20 A

I don't agree with it, mainly because not eating makes me so cranky. I don't think it can be good for anyone's body to do that to it.



CMCOLE
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7/24/12 7:04 A

I agree with those who see a dangerous path may have been begun by this individual.
I hope she realizes the danger that starving for weight loss can incur



MAGGIEVAN
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7/24/12 6:33 A

A good idea once a week.



TENNISJIM
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7/24/12 6:11 A

I only FAST when required by my doctor for lab work....



MISALINDA
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7/24/12 5:26 A

In this case it is really not a good path for a young girl to set herself on. She staved herself more than fasted, and got results. Now she may have a link in her mind between starving herself and getting to the weight she wants. I doubt she lost just water, she probably lost some muscle, too. Not good.

Since she did not do this for anything but fad detox, I see no point in going in to religious fasting, as the reasoning is so different.



WILSON1926
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7/24/12 5:23 A

If you're able to it might be good for a day but diabetics maybe should not



EOWYN2424
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7/24/12 4:58 A

During Ramadhan, Muslims can eat during sundown but have to fast during sunup. Which means breakfast at 5ish am then fast the whole day and break fast around 7pm. After 7pm, they can eat or drink as they wish until 6am the next day. Then the fasting begins again.

Muslim fasting is very strict, they can't even have water!



OUTDOORFREAK
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7/24/12 4:24 A

Fasting is the term for religious abstinence - so, you "vow" to give up specified physical things for spiritual reasons.

Sometimes it means not having red meat or animal products, sometimes caffiene and alcohol, sometimes everything except water, sometimes includes water in extreme cases.

In some religions it also covers other physical things like sex and even verbal expression (ever heard of the silent religious orders?).

This girl sounds like she did her "fast" to practice self-control - now she has seen this restriction can allow her to lose weight quickly, she could be on a dangerous path...

I'd be very concerned if anyone I knew started practicing such techniques for a whole week....it is not healthy under any circumstance...



Edited by: OUTDOORFREAK at: 7/24/2012 (04:25)


YMUNDERWOOD
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7/24/12 3:44 A

If your body can tolerate fasting, I think its a good thing. I personally can't do it. I've tried it but after 3 days I weighed myself and had gained 7 pounds and it took me 6 weeks to get me off that addictional weight.



RADIOTIKSPARK1
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7/24/12 2:39 A

It is interesting you post this today...this is the middle of Ramadan, the month of fasting for Muslims.

In general, if your fast is spiritual, go with it. It is something people have been doing to get closer to their god since religion began. If you fast is political (a hunger strike) you best believe in what you are doing!

If a person's fast is to lose weight, they don't deserve any congratulations. They are "fasting" but you are really on a crash diet and they WILL gain it back. Do you think that girl lost 10 pounds of fat or 10 pounds of water that she will instantly pack back on in about a day when she starts eating again!

If you want to get straight on fasting, take a look at wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting

Notice the emphasis on religion? Followed by pre surgery fasting and then political hunger strikes?

Your friend was doing so-called detoxification:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_cleansing

To quote: "Body cleansing is not supported by science, with no medical benefits demonstrated, and is based on questionable or disproved scientific claims. The toxins are usually undefined, with no evidence (or inappropriately used testing) for toxic accumulation in the patient"

To emphasize, so-called body cleansing is a scam and it doesn't do anything positive for you.

Edited by: RADIOTIKSPARK1 at: 7/24/2012 (02:40)


SPARKER87
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7/23/12 11:28 P

This past week a younger girl I know from High School kept updating her status on Facebook about her ''cleansing''. She would post 'Yay! Day three of my Detox'' or ''Made it to day five of my total body cleanse!" Then today she posted ''OMG! Made it a whole week on this detox. Didn't eat one thing! So proud of myself!" Now, a lot of people commented on it. Her friends told her that she was awesome because they could never be that strong. A LOT of adults posted about how dangerous it was and how she shouldn't do that to her body. But she was still ecstatic because she lost 10 pounds. I have no idea why she did the 'cleanse', she's originally 5'5'' and 135 lbs (guess on the weight, but I'm usually spot on) And she does a lot of hiking. I mean to each their own, but I thought it was kind of sad to see someone think they have to STARVE themselves to get results.

What are your thoughts on Fasting, cleansing, detoxing? Have you ever done it? And are there other forms of cleansing and detoxing that are more acceptable?

I also just got done watching a juicing documentary and the star of the show kept talking about how he was fasting..even though he was drinking insane amounts of fruit and vegetables and eating seeds and nuts; confused me a little on what fasting means.





 
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