Withdrawal feelings from eating "too healthy"?

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4/7/12 6:30 P

Remember to try and build muscle with weights. Muscle will help fat burn faster .That is why the men have an easier time losing. Start with a small weight and build it up slowly.

There will be plateaus where it seems like nothing is happening. I try and thrick my body my changing the daily calories and changing or increasing an exercise.


Sounds like you have made up your mind to be healthy. That is great. d

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4/7/12 4:24 P

This describes me perfectly. I am doing a couple of things different. Actually, I have just started dieting a little over a week ago, but I have been making some life changes for awhile now. I am not a consistent person, always a struggle to make things a habit. About 7 months ago, I started taking vitamins, and around the same time I started trying new healthy foods that I have never had before. I found that I liked them. I gained confidence that I can be consistent since I have been taking vitamins (and other natural supplements-have been reading a lot about holistic remedies). I feel much better and have not been sick since I started. NOW that I have that under my belt, I started my diet. I just tell myself that I have been consistent with this and so I can be consistent with my diet too. Also I bought myself some "pretty plates"; got them at Pier 1, as a way to encourage smaller portions. They are beautiful and hold a smaller than normal portion of food. It is my treat for taking care of myself. I tried HCG but I cannot do the 500 per day. I had problems going off my personal hygiene products, and NO WAY. So I switched to South Beach and am MUCH happier. I have lost 13 pounds in a little over a week. I have a TON of weight to lose, so no resting on my laurels just yet. Now I am focusing on finding enjoyable recipes to try. (I LOVE NEW RECIPES) so I am making cooking healthy a FUN CHALLENGE for me.
Best of luck everyone. I am new and could use some friends, so please feel free to leave me a message:))))

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4/7/12 1:45 A

What I have learned over the years is you have to balance it all...it depends on your body and your make-up as well...some people can go from a junk food laden diet, one day decide to change it all and they never look back....me on the other hand the minute I decide to cut out ice cream, I crave it like I'm pregnant....also if I go from not paying attention to my diet to all of a sudden watching it all, my brain likes to play tricks, for about a week I'll be starving all the time even though I know I'm eating the right stuff and the right make up its more psychological warfare for me...now I had given up caffeine for years and years and then I started working nights and I started with the caffeine again and now I'm a stay at home mom and I can't go without it or I get headaches....its so individual for everyone

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4/6/12 11:39 P

I completely get this!! Ok, I really don't like peanut butter and it's not like it is the most healthy thing to eat, especially for a craving. A couple times I tried it with all sorts of things. On a cookie, on some dark chocolate, on a graham cracker, on a pretzel. I finally settled with PB and apples. That is at least healthy, but still high in fat and calories. (good fat, though). I felt yucky afterwards. I occasionally get other cravings like that. I try to think what is in that food that my body is missing....protein, salt, etc. or what flavor is my body craving or missing. Perhaps it's just a memory.

Sometimes I snack on sweet then salty and go back and forth not getting satisfied. I do the same with crunchy and creamy. I guess the crunchy PB with apples is a good snack for all of that.

Good luck with your search. Check your sugar levels. If exercise is triggering your headaches try some sweet protein with a bit of salt after your workout. I do skim milk with a bit of Hershey's syrup and some Lance Whole Grain PB crackers. No more sickness and headaches after working out. :)

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4/6/12 10:29 P

When I'm on a very disciplined track, it can be difficult not to feel deprived and then cheat. So, 3 meals a week, i allow myself to eat what i want - it really helps from feeling deprived. I limit it to meals and not snacks.

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4/6/12 2:44 P

I am a huge pizza fanatic!!! I could eat pizza every other day of the week. Before I started Spark People, pizza was definitely a constant in our house. We still order out but mostly we try to make our own. And, when I type "we" I really mean my awesome fiancee. He makes his own dough even. We'll make two pizzas and each get our own, but I make sure if I'm going to be a pizza pig in the evening that I eat a lighter lunch. A whole homemade pizza is about 800 calories. Our favorite pizza is the homemade cheeseburger pizza using Morningstar Veggie Crumbles. My fiancee uses red onion, part skim cheddar cheese and reduced sugar ketchup to create the cheeseburger pie. Very good!

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4/6/12 12:41 P

I may do that. Sounds like a good approach. Not sure about making my own pizza. I might have to go out for that! There is a place that makes small ones in a wood oven with very thin crust. Maybe share and have with salad?

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4/6/12 11:09 A

I have taken a nothing is off the table approach. If I desperately want it I will have a little bit. Or I will try and make a healthy version. With the fries and pizza cravings you should have them but just make them yourself. You can make the fries in the oven and load the pizza up with vege's and use a whole wheat crust. Not as decadent but that might just take care of that craving.

Edited by: MAXINOVA at: 4/6/2012 (11:13)

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4/6/12 10:44 A

Have you tried adding sweet to the salad, like raisins, cranberries or other fruits? I like mandarin orange slices for some extra sweetness.

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4/6/12 10:25 A

I eat pretty healthy most of the time and try not to deny myself certain things, like cookies and chocolate which are my favorites. I just try to watch the portion sizes of those 'bad' things. Sometimes it's hard. I don't know why but it never fails every time I eat a salad, I crave something sweet. It doesn't matter what kind of salad, what is on or in the salad, I want a piece of chocolate or cookie afterwards. Sometimes I give in and sometimes I don't. But it's kind of an annoying thing!

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4/6/12 9:21 A

I have totally changed my eating habits in the past 3 years and lost almost 60 lbs and mostly I like the new way of eating. Mostly --- Lately I have been craving pizza and french fries which I have not had in I don't know how long? Wondering if I should just have them in moderation or continue to resist???

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4/6/12 7:55 A

I od'd on mint chocolate cookies yesterday. My gut is not very happy with that after sticking to my healthy diet for most of the week. I'm finding junk food doesn't taste that good and isn't thst satisfying. Next time I'll remember to keep undesirable food out of sight and out of mind by not letting it cross the threshold of my home.

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4/6/12 6:50 A

As much as I love eating healthy and it makes me feel amazing, I do have withdrawals for some foods, particularly chocolate! I usually keep small portions of chocolate in the house and have about 100 calories worth per day (amazing myself with self control). Last week I ran out and decided that it was time I ate chocolate less frequently and refused to buy more. Unfortunately it led to TWO binges that involved eating straight from the Nutella jar (eww, I know!) and did a lot more harm than my controlled chocolate eating. I have come to the conclusion that if you are absolutely nuts about a food, you can't just cut it out altogether or the withdrawals can sabotage your whole week!

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4/5/12 3:23 P

When I feel that way, I have a small piece of dark chocolate. It's my healthy "cheat".

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4/5/12 11:56 A

I sometimes suffer from the opposite. If I eat healthy for a full week and then have a day were I barely eat one vegetable I start feeling sick.

I think they both have to do with eating enough of a balanced meal. I know that some people who eat most salads start to feel bad because they aren't getting in enough protein or carbs.

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4/5/12 11:28 A

I don't vary my diet very much, especially weekdays, because it helps me keep calories in check without a lot of thought or effort. I don't have cravings all that often as a result of lack of variety, but when I've been eating at the bottom of my calorie range for more than two or three days - look out! I keep my macronutrient balance where it should be (although sometimes getting my minimum protein is a challenge). It seems to be the calories that make the difference. I get very tired, serious brain-fog, I don't get as much out of my workouts and can't keep up my pace or strength, etc. You don't mention whether you're tracking calories, only that your macronutrients are in balance. Perhaps try eating at the top of your calorie range or even slightly over for a few days? That usually "resets" my system and I feel a big difference in the way I feel over the course of the day, and especially when working out.

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4/5/12 10:16 A

Try Chia seeds. You can put them into any thing. I put them in my oatmeal for breakfast. I really think it helps to keep me feeling full through the day and more energy. Chia seeds absorb water and thats why you feel fuller and it keeps you from dehydration too. Runners like to have chia seeds before a run to help with dehydration. You can google it for more info.

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4/5/12 4:10 A

As long as you are medically fit, ie blood pressure is okay and all other vitals etc, then make sure you drink plenty of water and keep within your carb allowance. If your body craves hamburger meat, then eat more meat, a little extra every now and again shouldn't hurt as long as you keep this in check. Hamburger - the meat part, not the bread roll and the extras.

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4/4/12 9:47 P

I am still struggling to find the right balance too. Here's what has made differences for me that have helped. Before working out, make sure you eat some carbs, after working out some protein ( I usually have a cup of skim milk and some nuts or sliced turkey) Drink extra water and STRETCH. Sometimes if I don't stretch enough after working out, I really feel tight and starte to get tension including tension headaches. My guess is you're probably a bit dehydrated and since you're working hard, you may not be getting enough to eat on days you work out. I agree with people who are suggesting talking to a nutritionist. Also keep a close eye on your tracker, it could be you have some food sensativities you weren't aware of before. Good Luck.

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4/4/12 2:41 P

You should probably keep track of what foods cause these headaches, and then isolate the ingredients of these dishes.

"healthy" can vary greatly. You need to stop thinking all the food you eat is healthy. Some of it may not be for you. Peanuts are healthy, but people die every year from them. You could have a mild allergy to something you are eating,that you didn't eat before when you wer eating "unhealthy". I think we have a much greater grasp on unhealthy..lol. No one says, maybe pecan pie is healthy, the whipped cream is dairy right?

With healthy, it may be good for most, but not for you. I would track it, so that when you see a doctor, you can explain it to him/her, and form a plan together. With headaches s/he might tell you to take an Excedrin. If you can narrow it down to one ingredient that causes your headaches, then you could see if it is a common food allergy, and maybe remove that. Any info helps a doctor make a better plan for you to move forward.

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4/4/12 2:26 P

White_Elephant, I can totally relate to you and this so I don't think it is in your head. I have been experiencing headaches since I have gotten back on track to being healthier as well. I am like you, I have also had the craving for certain foods (seriously, including a hamburger which I don't eat often as well). I would use the exact word you used : withdrawal.

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4/4/12 12:53 P

I didn't experience the headache or cravings until just AFTER I ate the healthy foods. Before that, I felt fine, moderately hungry, a little tired, but otherwise just fine.

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4/4/12 12:43 P

If you are eating healthy with a proper mix of carbs, fats and protein within your calorie range you should feel GREAT! You might want to use the nutrition tracker (if you aren't doing that already) to make sure you are on track. Are you trying to stop drinking soda/coffee? If so, you might be having caffeine withdrawal. Spark on!

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4/4/12 12:33 P

When I realize I havent eaten cookies in a while I start to crave cookies. Usually I can beat back the demon, but I failed last week and ended up over my calorie allotment FOUR DAYS. Now I'm trying to "just say no."

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4/4/12 11:27 A

Interesting. About the orange juice - it's pretty high on the glycemic index, so perhaps what your body was craving was the fructose in it to boost your blood sugar.

I agree about adding spices too. The more unprocessed foods you eat the more you appreciate seasonings other than salt and sugar.Everything just has so much more flavor!

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4/4/12 11:19 A

There is no specific food I "miss" when eating healthy - but I do crave "spicy". So, I add cayenne pepper to many things, salt substitute and other spices to other things, and it seems to work. Whatever herb or spice I have around enhances flavors. They'll tell you they lose their flavor after a certain period of time.Not true. I use some that are years old, and they still work. I certainly will never throw out anything I had to pay out money for.

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4/4/12 11:10 A

The opposite happens to me--whenever I go on a junk food eating binge and haven't had enough fruits and veggies for the day, I start to crave healthy foods very intensely. Yesterday, the only thing close to a veggie I had was sauerkraut (and the rest of the day was just brats, muffins, ice cream, pizza, wings...). It was impossible to get to sleep because I couldn't stop thinking about orange juice (?!), so I just had to get up and eat an orange. That helped a little.

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4/4/12 5:55 A

It might be a number of things, stress can bring on headaches and you mentioned that you had worked hard. It may be a slight allergy to something you ate. (I do not eat grapefruit because I have gotten headaches in the past) You may have a caffeine headache from a reduction in that. I think speaking to a nutritionist if it continues would be wise

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4/4/12 4:51 A

I agree with talking to a nutrionist or trainer. It can be very helpful as they can shed some light on your trouble areas. I also agree it's important to listen to your body. It will tell you when it's getting what it needs or not.
I was seriously undereating~although my calorie count was pretty on-track it wasn't enough energy to support my activities-(pre-school teacher, dancing, running and yoga). Talking to a nutritionist about this really helped me get back to where I needed to be.

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4/3/12 9:28 P

It would probably help to speak with a nutritionist. I was having similar issues and after analyzing my food choices, timing and workouts, a dietician was able to make surprisingly few tweaks to my routine to get me back on track. This is often covered under insurance or, if you have gym membership, you may find one at your gym (this was free with my membership and I didn't take advantage of it until I hit a plateau). Good luck!

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4/3/12 7:57 P

I think every pre-menopausal woman needs to take her cycle into account when talking about cravings. I always craved thick, red meat steaks near the beginning of my cycle. I just thought my body needed the extra iron at that time. Are the cravings associated with your cycle? I found keeping a journal of cravings and mood swings during my cycle to be an invaluable tool. Also, have you had blood work done to check and see if you have any deficiencies that would benefit from supplements?

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4/3/12 5:56 P

There are many things you could be suffering withdrawal symptoms from: caffeine, sugar etc.

The other issue is dehydration.. A lot of times we guzzle soda, but when switching to water, we drink when thirsty. We have nothing driving our thirst like sugar addiction, or even salt on foods which bond with water. The body removes the water as we lower the salt, and sugar in our bodies, and because we are not overly fond of water, we don't replace this.

The first sign would be a headache. Try drinking, and make sure you eat enough of the good food. If it is withdrawal, that is a good thing. It will go away in 2-3 weeks, and you should avoid them for life.

I know dehydration sounds far-fetched, but it can cause kidney issues, and heart arrythmias. An employee of mine who was 140 lb 5'6" guy who was 22 years old, ended up in the hospital. We ribbed him as being too stupid to drink, but it is a serious issue.

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4/3/12 5:32 P

It could also be starch and sugar withdrawal. Some people react to the first few days of eating substantially fewer starches and sugars with headaches, fatigue, and general flu-like symptoms while their bodies switch to burning fat (including stored body fat) for fuel. That would also explain craving the hamburger - it's the fuel your cells are asking for.

Just curious, if you eat clean for several days in a row do the headaches go away?

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4/3/12 4:34 P

I think it's not unusual for your body to go through some changes in the beginning. I usually get a little gassy & bloated because of eating more veggies, but gradually your body grows accustomed to the changes. If you are having a craving just figure out a healthy way too make it. For hamburgers I use 96% lean hamburg with laughing cow cheese & it's fully loaded... lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, onions on a sandwich thin. If it's pizza, make a healthy one on a pita (very yummy). Take vitamins & listen to your body, you may be lacking in something (unless it's telling you it's lacking lots of cake)

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4/3/12 4:12 P

Are you eating within 30 minutes of exercise? Your body needs to replenish the stores of glycogen it uses up during exercise. If you don't replenish those stores, you might find yourself feeling tired, craving foods that are not healthy, and just generally low energy.

I've become extremely lazy these last few weeks, so I use a shake after my workout. It's made a huge difference in my recovery time (DOMS - or delayed onset muscle soreness happens far less often)

Another thing to consider, if you are feeling depressed (or "low") is that your Vitamin D levels may be too low. It's a national issue. I was struggling with depression last year, and my Nurse Practitioner suggested we check my Vitamin D levels (it cost about $100 for the blood test). I live in the Pacific Northwest and my county is notorious for extreme Vitamin D deficiency.

Sure enough I came back with lower than I should have levels of Vitamin D. I take a liquid supplement once a day now, and it's made a noticeable difference in my moods.

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4/3/12 4:11 P

Hard workouts - muscle building stuff like a hard track workout or strength training - can cause you to need different nutrients than your usual diet even if you are eating enough calories. A burger sounds like you may have been craving protein or iron. I am not sure what your workout was but when I run hard I make a smoothie after with a little greek yogurt, a couple cups of fresh spinach and some blueberries and that satisfies my body's need for protein and iron.

Another poster mentioned that headaches can be caused by low electrolytes, and I have personally experienced these so often after long runs that I joked about having a "long run hangover." I buy Nuun, a fizzy tablet you combine with water to make a sports drink, for a low calorie (5 per tablet) way to replenish electrolytes.

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4/3/12 3:30 P

I've determined that I have serotonin depletion. I have a lot of medical/MH issues that are all related to low serotonin. I just ordered a light machine. If you are used to eating more carbs (which help to create serotonin) and you are backing off of them to eat healthier that could also be an issue.

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4/3/12 1:09 P

For me, indulging in "moderation" doesn't work--always leads to bingeing on bad food! I just have to understand my body.

I find the hardest part to eating healthy is to live with the hunger I feel--my stomach has to learn to shrink again & be satisfied with salads instead of cheeseburgers!

For me eating red meat isn't an option--it's TERRIBLY unhealthy--high fat, high cholesterol--and bad for my Inflammatory Bowel Disease. There are SO many healthy non-meat proteins--you just have to find one's that satisfy you!

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4/3/12 11:37 A

If you're sweating heavily you might need to replenish lost electrolytes as well as water.
Loss of electrolytes as well as dehydration cause headaches.
Coconut water with a pinch of sea salt is good for this if you are looking for a natural source or electrolytes and hydration.

I like to take some whey(easily absorbed protein) with chia seed (inflammation fighter and fiber) after a workout... and have a piece of fruit to replenish glycogen stores. You could mix these all in a blender if you prefer.

If that burger is grassfed beef or bison on a whole wheat bun with onion, tomato and lettuce I wouldn't feel guilty at all. Even the ketchup is a source of lycopene(an antioxidant) and the sodium (electrolyte) you've just sweated out.

You can have what you want... just tweak it.

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4/3/12 10:47 A

I think I have experienced the same thing you are describing. For me, it was a matter of just plain not eating enough. To fully understand your caloric need, you need to establish your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate - the daily number of calories you burn at rest) and adjust for your activity level to arrive at your Daily Calorie Intake. This could shed a lot of light on why you feel so under-satisfied, if your intake is dramatically less than what you are burning.

For BMR and Daily Calorie Intake calculations, I have used
www.bodyforlife2.com/calorie_intake.htm>

Remember usually these online calculators give you the calories you should consume to maintain your current weight. They don't automatically calculate for a weight-loss goal. I am sure there is also a good calculator on SparkPeople if you search a bit.

For a simple solution, add something like a boiled egg or an ounce of cheese to your snack before a tough workout. A little extra protein usually helps me feel NOT-SO depleted after a tough session.

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4/3/12 10:21 A

High-fat and high-sugar foods produce dopamine in the brain, which make you feel good. It's actually possible to be addicted to fatty foods. I've experienced it myself, and have had the slightly headachy, nauseous, gassy feeling that comes from starting to eat healthy. It goes away after awhile. I can get giddy over a bowl of Cheerios with a sliced banana now, without the shame of knowing I'm filling my body with unhealthy food.

A lean hamburger is OK, just resist the junk food and know you're getting better. And do drink lots of water.

Edited by: CALLMECARRIE at: 4/3/2012 (10:23)

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4/3/12 9:49 A

All in moderation .. if you are craving a hamburger.. maybe your body does need the iron from the red meat -- eat one if you keep thinking about it. Also do drink your water .. the headache may be from dehydration.

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4/3/12 9:21 A

It's completely typical for this to happen. After eating super healthy for about 10 days I started to be starving all the time and craved terrible food (to be specific, brown sugar, butter, and PIZZA lol). You just have to push through and the cravings will go away. Or indulge just enough to satisfy your craving, but don't go crazy.

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4/3/12 9:09 A

I find sometimes when I'm trying to be really good I don't get enough fat and/or carbs. If I'm too low on either of those, I'll get headaches and get really grumpy!

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4/3/12 9:01 A

i know what you mean - sometimes after eating a healthy meal, i think about junk food and for a couple of minutes or so, I ask myself why I can't or shouldn't have them... then I remember that my body needs its nutrients and that food is fuel, not a friend. for me, it's really the mental pressure.

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4/3/12 8:00 A

Headaches are sometimes caused by dehydration. Be sure you are drinking plenty especially if you've had a grueling workout. You might be just craving the sodium portion of the burger. Try something a little salty yet essentially healthy. Check that you are getting enough nutrients/calories overall. Also sleep deprivation will both give you headaches and derail your willpower maybe easier said than done, but get your ZZZZ's

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4/3/12 7:42 A

the next day after you workout like that again, try the darker chicken meat. it's a trial and error sort of thing. you could also try making chicken tenders [poaching the chicken in broth and coating in oats]. depending on what you consider a salad, you could add more to it. beans, croutons, cheese, nuts, more and different veggies for texture. you could have salad dressing, or even some juicy fruit can be a nice wet part for a salad [like pineapples or oranges canned in their own juice, or even if you just peel and chop the fruit, it can add a nice textural difference].
it also sounds like your meals are really small. eating more can help and if you're satisfied with how much you are eating at a time, eating more often is the answer.

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4/3/12 7:22 A

It also could be that your body is releasing toxins stored in your fat cells. That's one reason making sure you get enough water is important. Some foods, like parsley and cilantro, or gelatinous food like chia seeds or psyllium husks, are good at binding toxins and getting them out of the body. Citrus fruit, too. But there's nothing wrong with lean ground beef, either. You might be a person who simply needs a certain amount of red meat, particularly grass fed, which has certain nutrients that other forms of protein don't have in the same quantity. Do listen to your body. It's telling you something. Keep going!

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4/3/12 2:44 A

You don't mention numbers. You just plain might not be eating enough.

Sometimes when we focus on healthy foods only and try to be "really good" we end up massively under eating. If you've also "worked out a lot" then yes - it's entirely possible the only problem here is total numbers.

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4/3/12 1:57 A

I notice if I try to eat REALLY clean and healthy, sometimes it's too much and I start to get headaches, etc. I used to think it might be insufficient protein, or fat, or not enough calories. For example if I eat grilled chicken breast on a salad with olive oil, maybe with some whole wheat pita, theoretically all the nutrients are in the right balance. I make sure there is enough protein, and I include healthy fats like olive oil or avocado, and I eat extra fruit, yogurt, or something so I get enough calories.

But sometimes, especially if I have been working really hard, it just doesn't cut it. Like today I did this, and I wound up with a headache and craving a hamburger. Yesterday I worked a lot, so today I think my body needed to replenish. I almost never eat hamburgers, and I don't usually get cravings for them, so it's not like I was only craving it because that's what I'm used to. If I had eaten a more fatty meal, say dark meat chicken instead of grilled breast, I'm pretty sure (from experience) that it would have satisfied me better and I would have avoided the headache and cravings.

Anybody else have this experience? Is it all in my head?