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SUNSHINE6442 Posts: 2,216
12/11/13 11:09 A

Too much protein can raise the BUN creatinine levels in blood which can hurt a diabetics kidneys.,,,also when our bodies get dehydrated, the creatinine levels tend to increase. This puts a diabetics kidneys at risk.

Fiber and water are a diabetics best friends.

How much and what kind of carbs do matter!

Brown rice and barley have resistant starches.....chickpeas, black eyed peas, lentils black beans, butter beans, cannellini beans, kidney beans, soy beans, split peas, navy and pinto beans...they are slow digesting and help keep you full

Some wild rice in your diet may help..... it has less calories than brown rice, fewer carbs than brown rice, more fiber and higher in protein and should fill you up quicker. Rye bread is another good choice as it too digests slowly and the sugars in rye flour are absorbed into your bloodstream much more slowly.

Maybe try Portobello mushroom has more potassium than a banana. Foods rich in potassium help maintain normal heart rhythm, balance fluids, and are good sources of very good source of vitamins B6 and B12 which are energy vitamins.

Snack on magnesium rich, low carb almonds (Unsalted almonds)....they help keep blood sugar stable...more magnesium rich foods like almonds, pumpkin seeds, spinach, and Swiss chard is a smart move. Also help lower cholesterol. Walnuts 4 halves protect the heart.

Pure rye bread contains only rye flour, without any wheat.

Rye bread may be better for you because of the way the sugars get absorbed into your blood. For some reason (that scientists are still looking into), the sugars in rye flour are absorbed into your bloodstream much more slowly. This makes rye bread a great choice for people with diabetes and dieters, because their blood sugars won't peak and crash (a.k.a. the effects of white bread, wheat bread) Pumpernickel is also slow digesting.

Two slices of whole wheat bread now raise your blood sugar more than 2 tablespoons of table sugar

Test after eating wheat might see a difference

Also another trick have brown rice pasta and only 2 ounces which is the size of a lightbulb...add broccoli or green beans to the mix to blunt any sugar surge. Brown RICE PASTA is available at Walmart and Trader Joe's

Always discuss with your doctor what medical treatments and changes in your lifestyle will better your condition

Edited by: SUNSHINE6442 at: 12/11/2013 (11:14)
RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
12/10/13 11:16 A

Okay Becky, was just wondering, since my full report has 50/20/30 as the recommendation, not 45-65 % coming from carbs. Thanks for pointing out the difference.

12/10/13 11:05 A

This SP article reviews the protein, fat and carb percentage of calories (ranges) used on our general SP program. For example you will see that carbs is 45-65% of total calories.

For members who want to use our diabetic program the percentage of calories is:
50% carb
20% protein
30% fat

You will also see that these carbs are distributed throughout the day into meals and snacks for better blood sugar control.

Since folks with diabetes are also at a greater risk for heart disease, no more than 30% of calories coming from fat is also the general recommendation.

If weight loss is also a goal; these amounts will vary based on total calorie needs.

When working with a Diabetes Educator; Protein will also be evaluated depending on hunger level, food preferences, and other medical issues.

Your SP Registered Dietitian Nutritionist

Edited by: DIETITIANBECKY at: 12/10/2013 (11:11)
BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,433
12/10/13 10:47 A

Spark diabetes program:

Edited by: BUNNYKICKS at: 12/10/2013 (10:52)
RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
12/10/13 7:54 A

Just want to clarify the macronutrient ratios. Isn't 50/20/30 the same diet SP promotes to ALL the people on this site? Are you also using it for the diabetic diet?

I was given a plan of 45 grams per meal, and two 20 gram snacks when I was put on a diabetic diet, and ate over 2000 calories per day. So my carbs were under 35%.

Is this just because 175 grams a day was top limit of carbs for me as a diabetic, and if I had been eating less calories, it would have been been a larger % of my diet?

I am just curious, because 50/20/30 is the diet SP recommends for everybody, and then if I get diagnosed as a diabetic, you don't reduce my carbs at all? How is one supposed to reduce blood sugars?

To the OP.. if you overeat with protein, excess can also be converted to glucose, although that would be rare with all the carbs you have for energy. On almost any diet, your protein is going to be similar 20-25 %. The only thing that will vary a lot is carbs, and fat. If you do cut carbs ( not saying you should ).. then your fat will increase, not your protein. This may be undesirable to you as well. Just so you know, you aren't going to want to drop carbs 10 %, and up protein 10 %. Most likely, you wouldn't use 30 % protein. Many low carb dieters cut carbs, and eat lots of protein ( 35-40 % ), and still have higher glucose levels, due to protein being converted. So when you think that carbs may be too high, ask yourself if you want to eat a higher percentage of fat to offset that drop. If you max out at 20-25 % protein, that leaves 75-80 % carbohydrate/fat.. so 45-50 % carbs, and 25-30 % fat. Any reduction in carbs, will be an increase in fat , and vice versa. When I was eating 35 % carbs, I ate 40 % fat, not more protein. Many people think " carbs are bad ", and think " I'll just eat more protein ", but when they hear what actually happens ( fat goes up ), all of a sudden, the carbs don't sound so bad to

If you think SP ratios are not correct, ask your doctor/dietitian if they want you on something different. I don't think they will tell you to up your protein though. Good Luck getting your blood sugars stable on whatever ratio you settle on.

12/9/13 5:26 P

It looks like your program is correct for our diabetes plan which uses:
50% of calories from carb
20% from protein
30% from fat

Do talk to your certified diabetes educator if slightly different ranges should be set.

A 3-4 ounce serving of meat has 21-28 grams of protein. 2 portions should easily fit within your plan along with 2 servings of dairy. I looked at your nutrition tracker and it looks like you are getting about 85 grams daily. This is very much appropriate and safe. Even if you were slightly higher, it would not matter---you could always go slightly lower of fat--this would balance out the calories.

Does this help
Your SP Registered Dietitian

NIRERIN Posts: 14,235
12/9/13 3:10 P

head back to your goals on your start page. reenter all of your information and make sure you save it. that should reset your ranges to what they are supposed to be. there is a small chance that the diabetic plan has a much more stringent protein intake, but my guess is that you managed to accidentally manually edit the goal when you were resetting. so reentering will set you right.

12/9/13 2:59 P

My nutrition tracker was reset recently and now I am having trouble staying in my goal of 67-84 protein per day with only 17-21 for each meal. A 3-4 oz piece of chicken or fish alone will put me over my goal but then if I add whole wheat bread or pasta or brown rice I am way over. I am also trying to eat my calcium instead of taking too many supplements and it is hard to fit in yogurt, cheese and milk.
I am diabetic, weigh 230 lbs. and try to exercise 20-60 minutes most days. My calorie goal is 1330-1680. Carbs 166-210, Fat 44-56. I keep hearing people say to eat protein with carbs and it doesn't make sense that my carb limit is so high and protein is so low. Most days I find myself way under in fat and usually in the middle of carbs and over in protein.
Can anyone help me out? I'd appreciate any advice. Thank you.

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